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The only GOOD thing is that the TRTP is 97% according to betat. Interestingly, they have the dark knight I listed at 91% which seems low...?
Dark knight 91% is most likely because of the progressive
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The only GOOD thing is that the TRTP is 97% according to betat. Interestingly, they have the dark knight I listed at 91% which seems low...?
I would love to give this a try, but the free spins randomness issue is stopping me.
It seems changing your bet does not effect accumulated free spins and multipliers.
I just ran a test in fun mode. At max bet I gathered some extra FS and multipliers.
Changed to min bet, and hit bonus soon after, without extra FS and Xs.
It paid the equivalent of 2 times max bet or so, so I can't see any compensation for changing bet.
It would have to though, the other way around.
I read the help file, but that didn't offer any explanation AFAICS.
Are we looking at a random base game, and a AWP style bonus feature?
Also, isn't this supposed to be one of the biggest releases this year?
It's been really quiet. Best offer I've had is double comp points![]()

The only GOOD thing is that the TRTP is 97% according to betat. Interestingly, they have the dark knight I listed at 91% which seems low...?
Now I'm even more convinced that the numbers of spins and multiplier have no bearing on the bonus round.
This was 50 spins at 3x multiplier. £1.50 from the bonus trigger, £3.15 from all those spins on the super wild feature.
Crap!
Now I'm even more convinced that the numbers of spins and multiplier have no bearing on the bonus round.
This was 50 spins at 3x multiplier. £1.50 from the bonus trigger, £3.15 from all those spins on the super wild feature.
Crap!

That is awfulOMFG! That is amazing. Did you gather the freespins with the same bet?

OMFG! That is amazing. Did you gather the freespins with the same bet?
Here's a short sharp players review of the game that does agree with some of your comments...You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Here's a short sharp players review of the game that does agree with some of your comments...[link to the guy's own forum]

After reading what almost everyone has to say - I won't touch this Slot. Another greedy 243 way Slot from the MG stable.
The amount of spins needed to hit something worthwhile on most of MG's 243 way slots is mind boggling. Yeah you can get lucky but these are money traps just like every other 243 way piece of junk MG throws out.
The funny thing is Netent is just as bad throwing useless releases and making the Wild worthless... MGS is doing just the same with the 243 way games.
Having played for years, I assure you that you are better off playing old school 9 liners or even the older 20 or 30 line slots. Losing 400 to 500x bet on these new slots is so easy its not funny.
MG - thanks but NO Thanks
Nate
Did a €50.00 deposit at Betsafe tonight and played IR and TSII,in my opinion the 2 most reliable 243 liners and I really have had some good wins on those in the past.
My balance shot up to €350.00 in no time with a few decent bonusses on €0.60-€0.90 bets.
Decided to give Netent another chance on Magic Portals and this piece of sh*t ate nearly €250.00 away on €2.00 spins without free spins or any decent wins.
So back to TSII,got the Wild feature and got 3 wild reels which paid me around €250.00 back on a €0.90 spin so finally I withdrew €300.00,still a nice €250.00 profit,nothing to sneeze at...
All made by playing on MG,I really have to ban Netent completely of my list,what a bunch of crap slots...
MG cannot be that bad Nate!![]()
Second biggest mistake my wife ever made (after marrying me) was buying a Vax cleaner. The most useless vacuum I've ever seen!This morning I had the "excitement" of putting together and trying out a new vax vacuum cleaner so I was grateful to see the Dark Knight arrive after lunch. Have to say, it looks fantastic and the soundscape is superb. I did about 300 spins and checked out the free spins feature too. This evening, I am going to vacuum the house. Twice probably.

Having played for years, I assure you that you are better off playing old school 9 liners or even the older 20 or 30 line slots.
Second biggest mistake my wife ever made (after marrying me) was buying a Vax cleaner. The most useless vacuum I've ever seen!
I think it was only about a year before we dumped it and bought a proper REAL Hoover - 10x better!
So good luck with your vacuuming...
Haven't even seen the slot yet, let alone tried it!
KK



Unless it's changed recently, I have it as 96.3% and there's no way the progressive is worth 5.3%. Probably closer to 1%.
Yeah, Whospunit from Betsoft was released last month.
NetEnt's South Park is live Sept 24.

So maybe this only works one way.

Oh well I just lost about a grand with an average spin of 4 (most spins at 3 some at 6) close to 800 spins, no feature. bane at 45x3 batman 42x2. biggest reg game win 50x. The scramble feature is seriously annoying. Rearranging the reels to get the lowest possible prize, great idea guise!![]()
Well thats just the reason I wont give MG more than poo change
Hope you catch a whale next time 
Oh well I just lost about a grand with an average spin of 4 (most spins at 3 some at 6) close to 800 spins, no feature. bane at 45x3 batman 42x2. biggest reg game win 50x. The scramble feature is seriously annoying. Rearranging the reels to get the lowest possible prize, great idea guise!![]()
We have it at 91% (TDK) according to the official game sheet and same here, i'm boggled about such an RTP drop so i asked the team to challenge it. The new game (TDKR) is at 96-97% but the research we did so far states 97% and wouldn't be surprised given its low volatility. Seeing as we don't have the internal volume to decide which way to sway for now so I'm keeping it tentatively on 97%.
Just a question, can a slot of say 99.9% RTP have a high volatility given a maths model governing the random number generator?
Consider this extreme example. Lets say a random number generator generates an integer (whole number) between 1 and 1,000. The slot pays out only when the number 1000 is generated and when it does it will pay out a sum of 999x stake. This is a (ridiculous) example of a high volatility slot that has RTP of 99.9% . The example is nonsense but RTP and volatility is not really related. The volatility comes from the spread of available wins available. The volatility is more related to the maximum possible payout rather than the RTP. The RNG is not really any part of it as the slot is based on assigning particular win payouts based on the value of the RNG and these are what determine the RTP.
This is in no way an authoritative answer of course - I have no industry knowledge here, I am just basing this on elementary probability and how I have inferred that the slots work internally based on reading a lot of posts here and asking a lot of questions.
Hello fellowplayers...
i played last week on this slot on a casinogroup which is acredited at casinomeister.com.
i have only played this slot at 4 casino at same time.. as i believe the publicity was big and everyone is jumping on this slot so its most likely it will be a hot slot...as i played 4 casino at same time at the same group and deposit alot alot of money over 5 figurs and cash out about twice the amount i have deposit.. then i withdraw at thursday.. and flushed my withdraws on each of the casino i played as they recently let u flush at all the casino they owned.. ( not 32red)
i normally allways get my winnings paid the next batch when its released and thats the day after i withdraw...this didn't happen when i was expecting my money at friday the day after.. i went to chat and asked about it..on friday where my money was they told me they working on it.. as i find it strange !! then i thought ok then i should get it paid at monday when finance is back to work.. but monday night i still not had my money received which it was really weird to me.. went to chat asked what about my withdraw.. as again i get to hear they are working on it..
now tuesday i thought now it gonna be paid... which didnt happen again..went to chat..get to hear the same story.. so i contact the rep here of this casino group and he told me there is a technical error on this game and they holding my winnings until further investigation...
as i never saw an error i which have no clue what it is .. how come if i played after they not paid me on other casinos where i had some withdraws from this slot got paid on time? why are the other casinos not holding the winnings? is this a trick from this casino to do this to me? if they have error then every casino got error... and why would they offer game that has error..
i was playing this morning at 32red after i got mail from the rep from the casino where they hold my money .. i asked 32red support advise for this problem .. what will happen when a game has error and i have winnings on it? which i have no idea it has an error.. answer from support was.. we would pay the winnings and further we will resolve this between Microgaming that answer was a very good one to hear.. then i went to the casino where the error was as they told me .. in terms and conditions is written when a game has error all winnings will be voided.. which this situation makes hard and painfull.. i have to suffer for something that is not in my control..i allways believe when they offer error in a game and i win i think they should pay me becos they made the error not me...
this is first time where i got a problem like this .. i find it unacceptable that they gonna probaly take a 5 figur winnings from me..TOO STRANGE.. NEVER HEARD ANYWHERE THIS GAME HAS TECHINICAL ERROR...
AND THE WORST CASE WAS.. FRIDAY THEY DIDNT PAY ME.. AS THEY KNEW THEY HAD ERROR BUT THEY LET ME CONTINUE PLAYING THIS GAME.. LUCKILY I WON AGAIN... THAT IS ABSOLUTE NOT ACCEPTABLE BY THIS CASINOGROUP... I WONT REVEAL THE NAME OF THIS CASINOGROUP.. AS I THINK EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT AT THE END..
seems fair to me Hello fellowplayers...
i played last week on this slot on a casinogroup which is acredited at casinomeister.com.
i have only played this slot at 4 casino at same time.. as i believe the publicity was big and everyone is jumping on this slot so its most likely it will be a hot slot...as i played 4 casino at same time at the same group and deposit alot alot of money over 5 figurs and cash out about twice the amount i have deposit.. then i withdraw at thursday.. and flushed my withdraws on each of the casino i played as they recently let u flush at all the casino they owned.. ( not 32red)
i normally allways get my winnings paid the next batch when its released and thats the day after i withdraw...this didn't happen when i was expecting my money at friday the day after.. i went to chat and asked about it..on friday where my money was they told me they working on it.. as i find it strange !! then i thought ok then i should get it paid at monday when finance is back to work.. but monday night i still not had my money received which it was really weird to me.. went to chat asked what about my withdraw.. as again i get to hear they are working on it..
now tuesday i thought now it gonna be paid... which didnt happen again..went to chat..get to hear the same story.. so i contact the rep here of this casino group and he told me there is a technical error on this game and they holding my winnings until further investigation...
as i never saw an error i which have no clue what it is .. how come if i played after they not paid me on other casinos where i had some withdraws from this slot got paid on time? why are the other casinos not holding the winnings? is this a trick from this casino to do this to me? if they have error then every casino got error... and why would they offer game that has error..
i was playing this morning at 32red after i got mail from the rep from the casino where they hold my money .. i asked 32red support advise for this problem .. what will happen when a game has error and i have winnings on it? which i have no idea it has an error.. answer from support was.. we would pay the winnings and further we will resolve this between Microgaming that answer was a very good one to hear.. then i went to the casino where the error was as they told me .. in terms and conditions is written when a game has error all winnings will be voided.. which this situation makes hard and painfull.. i have to suffer for something that is not in my control..i allways believe when they offer error in a game and i win i think they should pay me becos they made the error not me...
this is first time where i got a problem like this .. i find it unacceptable that they gonna probaly take a 5 figur winnings from me..TOO STRANGE.. NEVER HEARD ANYWHERE THIS GAME HAS TECHINICAL ERROR...
AND THE WORST CASE WAS.. FRIDAY THEY DIDNT PAY ME.. AS THEY KNEW THEY HAD ERROR BUT THEY LET ME CONTINUE PLAYING THIS GAME.. LUCKILY I WON AGAIN... THAT IS ABSOLUTE NOT ACCEPTABLE BY THIS CASINOGROUP... I WONT REVEAL THE NAME OF THIS CASINOGROUP.. AS I THINK EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT AT THE END..
A few days ago i was minutes from coming on here to vent my frusration at this slot. Free spins were up at 50 with a 4x multiplier. The feature hadn't even been close to appearing. It finally came in when I was down to the last £5 of my 5th deposit. Chose Bane with the result being £425 from a £0.90 stake. However after waiting so ridiculously long for the feature I won't be feeding this slot again.
