What's Wrong With This 3Dice Screenshot?

[X-Raided]

My concern with your casino (since you opened that door on how to pick a casino based on luck ) is that it seems the casinos I play at...every one of them, have a certain kind of return after a given time. At 3Dice, the returns are extremely few and far between to almost non existent.

I stated this in another thread. If one can have an average amount of deposits...then a few withdrawals sprinkled in with a little bit of play time at all of the casinos that has been chosen, and then they play at yours...there is no rhyme to how your casino plays and pays.

I liked 3dice, but I had to stop playing there just recently because of the lousy return and the endless black hole that you have created and the continuous changes you keep making to the games making them play even worse if that can be achieved.

Unlike the other casinos, you can pretty much grasp when you will win enough to withdraw, but at yours, there are no withdrawals to be had until you dump a ton of money in, then you get a small token once in a BLUE moon...to almost never...why is this?

Why is your casino so limited in allowing players to win a little after losing a ton? My pattern at other casinos are...a few deposits, play and withdraw. It is a given a player loses in the long run. That is NOT the problem. As much as I liked 3Dice, I refuse to be an ATM machine. When there is no end in sight....you are beating a dead horse and I believe your casino is that dead horse at this time.

No one will continue choose to play at your casino with the way you have set up your casino for constant losing. So, I guess I am wondering why your casino is set to take more of a players money than an average casino when you already have the winning percentages on your side.?
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I'd have to agree with silcnlayc on everything she has stated.

There came a time when I thought 3Dice was a very good casino
to play at. Up until this week, it finally hit me... That is, my wallet
kicked me in the ass and questioned why I still deposit at such a
tight casino. I mean, 1 loyalty point for every $20 wagered. 100 points
equals $5 whole bucks = cheap casino IMO.

Also, don't get me started on how quick my $100 deposit flew
on Triple Dough from 75 cent bets. Sure the 3Dice Zeitgeist states
big winners, but a gut instinct tells me the winners are previously
selected.

No big comps, no huge deposit bonuses and not to many deposit
bonuses in general. You lose your deposit, So you gripe at Anna or Andrea
that the slots are tough, they throw you a small bone ($10 - 10WR) your way (except for
Lance & his side kick, they'll sometimes tell you to take a hike) and
in the very end you lose that and feel like a bum. No more for me I've had enough.

 

[jelsmith]

I'd have to agree with silcnlayc on everything she has stated.

There came a time when I thought 3Dice was a very good casino
to play at. Up until this week, it finally hit me... That is, my wallet
kicked me in the ass and questioned why I still deposit at such a
tight casino. I mean, 1 loyalty point for every $20 wagered. 100 points
equals $5 whole bucks = cheap casino IMO.

Also, don't get me started on how quick my $100 deposit flew
on Triple Dough from 75 cent bets. Sure the 3Dice Zeitgeist states
big winners, but a gut instinct tells me the winners are previously
selected.

No big comps, no huge deposit bonuses and not to many deposit
bonuses in general. You lose your deposit, So you gripe at Anna or Andrea
that the slots are tough, they throw you a small bone ($10 - 10WR) your way (except for
Lance & his side kick, they'll sometimes tell you to take a hike) and
in the very end you lose that and feel like a bum. No more for me I've had enough.

I have to disagree with that. I get comps tossed to me and they NEVER have a WR NEVER....and I get some hefty ones. Im not sayin I dont lose...cause I do (like a lot)....but honestly with the comps I have no gripe.

 

[jod5413]

Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklabrador
I have never had an account closed in my 15 years of online gaming, the only account closing that took place was the casino going into my trash bin and off to never never land. I find it rather comical how some posters take such offense to people that don't think 3dice is a fair payout casino. Why so animate about having their backs? They clearly just admitted a glitch in the software and handled it an odd way , yet you run to their defense? I can't imagine the nightmares you have had online if you are so quick to back casinos that are having problems. You must have played on every rogue casino imaginable but that is no ones fault but your own.

I can assure you my account is in good standing and I could go there and play today if I wanted, I just choose not to because of the tightness of the slots. Enzo is great, customer service is WONDERFUL, but the hits are just too few and far in between. Cheers.

Oh please
You claim they've done nothing to rectify this issue, and/or that they handled it in an odd way.
So what, in your opinion, would be the right way handle this incident?

Maybe you could teach them a thing or two

Freddy

I do not think Blacklabrador liked the fact that he didn't "win enough" in his short period of play time at 3Dice. He is bound and determined to undermine them at every chance he gets. Petulant, if you ask me. However, he is entitled to be "animate" about his back himself.

Hi Blacklabrador,

Could I ask why you are so negative towards 3Dice ? I'd really like to know what is causing this issue. Surely you are not serious when you say its based on your experience - and if you are - are you basing it on the entire 3 weeks or are you excluding the first 10 days when you were over 100% ?

Casino's don't get to pick the winners - we cant guarantee good luck - we can guarantee a lot of other things, but alas we can't guarantee you'll win.

Picking a casino based on your luck is like picking a wedding partner based on the amount of premarital sex you've had .. you're pretty sure it'll change

You don't get to pick when you'll be lucky - but you do get to pick where.

Kindest regards,

Enzo

Not everyone is going to be fond of 3Dice, especially since they have so few slots games and most are high variance, even the medium variance can eat your deposit up quickly. I feel that if 3Dice would get more (lots more) slots offerings, people would not be so quick to cry "foul". You simply do not have enough choices to keep gamblers going. If this one and that one and that one don't pay, you have nothing else to try. I hope you understand my point, Enzo. It is not a slap at your casino. I play there here and there and think the slots are decent. Oh and Blacklabrador? He gets too animate watching his back!!

My concern with your casino (since you opened that door on how to pick a casino based on luck ) is that it seems the casinos I play at...every one of them, have a certain kind of return after a given time. At 3Dice, the returns are extremely few and far between to almost non existent.

I stated this in another thread. If one can have an average amount of deposits...then a few withdrawals sprinkled in with a little bit of play time at all of the casinos that has been chosen, and then they play at yours...there is no rhyme to how your casino plays and pays.

I liked 3dice, but I had to stop playing there just recently because of the lousy return and the endless black hole that you have created and the continuous changes you keep making to the games making them play even worse if that can be achieved.

Unlike the other casinos, you can pretty much grasp when you will win enough to withdraw, but at yours, there are no withdrawals to be had until you dump a ton of money in, then you get a small token once in a BLUE moon...to almost never...why is this?

Why is your casino so limited in allowing players to win a little after losing a ton? My pattern at other casinos are...a few deposits, play and withdraw. It is a given a player loses in the long run. That is NOT the problem. As much as I liked 3Dice, I refuse to be an ATM machine. When there is no end in sight....you are beating a dead horse and I believe your casino is that dead horse at this time.

No one will continue choose to play at your casino with the way you have set up your casino for constant losing. So, I guess I am wondering why your casino is set to take more of a players money than an average casino when you already have the winning percentages on your side.?

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Once again, I hear you, Silc. But I maintain that if there were more slots, mostly low variance, they would give many more chances to win.

To be quite honest with you, I am getting sick of you insinuating that all of us that play at 3dice are stupid. You jump in on every 3dice thread and have something negative to say about the people that play there. In all my years of playing online I have never played at a rogue casino nor have I ever been screwed over.

Michelle

I know what you mean, Michelle. However, at Casinomeister, there are lots of different mind sets and although some of them seem to be "a waste of air", Bryan welcomes all of us as long as we follow his rules.

 

[all4greed]

Because of this, all4greed changed the autohold suggestion and played on. When the other cards appeared (correctly) - she could see that she had held the jack, the eight and the ace. (so she already saw those cards when the bug first ocured ..).

My wife would like to inform you that I'm a dude.

I just checked and the hand was now playable.

 

[bo_ho]

I mentioned this exact issue in a thread back in 2008 so it's been happening for a while.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/3dice.26801/

 

[just play]

*scratches chin*

 

[just play]

first 10 days when you were over 100% ?

That happens to a lot of people.



Enzo, did you get permission to post blacklabradors personal information on a public forum? Seems like you do this quite often without asking. Sometimes VERY personal.

 

[X-Raided]

I have to disagree with that. I get comps tossed to me and they NEVER have a WR NEVER....and I get some hefty ones. Im not sayin I dont lose...cause I do (like a lot)....but honestly with the comps I have no gripe.

I understand what your saying Jelsmith, but pardon me for saying
this... You're highly active in the chat room 3Dice offers. You have a lot
of online buddies on 3Dice. Your known there and I can imagine that
you get comped regularly. But what about the players like me who
deposit heavily, but are relatively unknown due to not partaking
in 3Dice's chat? I've never got comped aside from the
$10 X10WR. I've clocked my deposits and I'm well over $5,000.

All my money to support the "Help Enzo order a porterhouse steak in Belgium"
fund.

 

[jelsmith]

I am active in chat. I don't however think that has anything to do with it. There are some "big fish" there that do not participate in chat and I know they get comps as well. I really do not think that being in chat has anything to do with. Ive asked for a comp before and been told no....more than once.

I spend a lot of $ there (over 30k) my entire gambling budget as a matter of fact. I think it has more to do with how much you deposit and how bad your payout % is.

I guess everyone just has their own opinion on them. Ive logged off pissed off more than a few times after bad losing streaks...and then sometimes pissed at myself for not cashing. Im on a bad run as of late and I mean bad, but I dont think Im being cheated. I think I got shit luck.

 

[jod5413]

Well said, Jelsmith!! I "got shit luck" really, really often at all my casinos!!

Oh well, tomorrow is another day.

 

[Nate]

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Ive logged off pissed off more than a few times after bad losing streaks...and then sometimes pissed at myself for not cashing. Im on a bad run as of late and I mean bad, but I dont think Im being cheated. I think I got shit luck.

No you don't Jel... Why is it we ALL have 'Bad Luck'? Silc, Xraided, You, Me, Blacklabrador...(Even if his play is limited) - i am not insinuating that the software cheats either, my personal belief is that it is weighted TOO much in the Casinos favour, Slots are TOO TIGHT.

I'm also falling into this BIG Black hole at 3dice. I have tried to keep faith, that I am indeed on a 'Run of Bad Luck' ... This bad luck seems to be on an extended stay with me. I have not deposited since my last 2k deposit and slaughter a few weeks back. I have lost a LOT at 3dice, but what i cannot understand is that even though i lost that, the comps i received were also generous and i could do nothing... literally nothing with them.

Enzo acknowledged in a previous thread that I was one of the accounts that had 'Very Bad Luck' and he would do his best to look after us... He did for a bit (all those comps were lost with NO sign of passing the start balance) and as soon as i deposited and went ahead by a small $200... i was told that my losses on deposits didnt matter.... Well.. thats fine..

I play a tournament here and there and use my loyalty to try and build up a balance. I've been told to low roll... That does not help. I play max bet.. and maybe after i have lost 1.5k, ill get a hit. The Hit will pay less than my start balance on the game...

3dice is unique and cannot be faulted on their service or unique games... but that comes at a price... Seriously... I am not a 3dice basher but im sharing my experience with them. As soon as your value goes down or you make your opinion known, you fall down the priority list at 3dice.... I don't think im imagining things here, but simple requests that were once fulfilled (when i depositing and was losing BIG) are now a hassle to sort out... I am not shown the same treatment i was shown when the cash was rolling in..

The irony here is, when i started at 3dice, my very first deposit, i could not lose... I didnt cash out, but the hits were there all the time and kept you afloat. From the next few deposits onwards, it was history... half a year later, the same pattern, the same losing streak...

My question:

How long do you need to CONTINUOSLY lose to put it down to 'Bad Luck'?

Nate

 

[paulyt]

I probably am behind at 3dice but there's been a couple of times lately that I've won big (and most of the time from quite small bets) It all comes down to variance. I think with 3Dice even the "Medium' variance slots have quite a high variance compared to other slots.

I agree with the slot selection statement, there are nowhere near enough, I sometimes get bored whether I'm winning or losing after playing the same slots over and over.

 

[silcnlayc]

Nate: No you don't Jel... Why is it we ALL have 'Bad Luck'? Silc, Xraided, You, Me, Blacklabrador...(Even if his play is limited) - i am not insinuating that the software cheats either, my personal belief is that it is weighted TOO much in the Casinos favour, Slots are TOO TIGHT.I'm also falling into this BIG Black hole at 3dice. I have tried to keep faith, that I am indeed on a 'Run of Bad Luck' ... This bad luck seems to be on an extended stay with me.

3dice is unique and cannot be faulted on their service or unique games... but that comes at a price... Seriously... I am not a 3dice basher but im sharing my experience with them. As soon as your value goes down or you make your opinion known, you fall down the priority list at 3dice.... I don't think im imagining things here, but simple requests that were once fulfilled (when i depositing and was losing BIG) are now a hassle to sort out... I am not shown the same treatment i was shown when the cash was rolling in..

My question:

How long do you need to CONTINUOSLY lose to put it down to 'Bad Luck'?
Nate

Excellent observations Nate. You have said exactly the things that I feel also. The casino could make much more money from a lot happier players on a losing binge if there was a balance of wins and losses as there are at other casinos. This casino has none ...balance that is. Your very last line says it all...

How long do you need to CONTINUOSLY lose to put it down to 'Bad Luck'?[/

Aptly put. Just how long CAN a casino claim a run of "bad luck" for a player? That used to be the term used by many casinos on the same platform like RTG or Rival to pooh pooh the idea that things were more heavily weighted than those at other casinos that the run of bad luck as sever as these casinos give never happened at. Why is that? When do you start saying...something does not "feel right" at casinos such as this ? They already have an edge on us but to take an even larger edge against the player is so wrong...IMO.. and this is just what is happening IMO.

Jod said something I was mulling around in my head that made some sense about lack of slots to offset losses ...that is a very good point I must say...so if there are lack of slots, wouldn't it be smarter to allow the other slots they have pay out to keep the player coming back even when they lose?

We are not asking for something that we are not getting elsewhere...we are withdrawing, losing and playing...but with a balance of play/win losses unlike here..and it is showing up really how bad it is here...3Dice is the only other casino that I have such huge losses at....without a break...which is NOT normal for me at any casino but this one...so...which play is right..the one where you have a balance of play/win/losses or one where you get the feeling that the slots have been over weighted without a return .....and when do you say enough and begin to believe of what you suspected?

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[cpdnd31]

Here is my opinion of 3 dice. I've been a long time online gambler. I play at micro and rtg now I gave up rival this year. I know the patterns or the feel of a machine when I play at rtg or micro. Ive played enough that you can kind of tell when a slot is loose or tight. I have my winning streaks and I have lost. I've learned the hard way from 3dice - I love 3dice but I only play there for the entertainment factor. I will deposit. I will play because I truly love the games and the people. However I know my chances for winning there are limited. I never can get a feel of the games. There is no pattern... every gambler who plays their favorite games on any platform should know what I'm talking about. There's a rhythm you can feel when a slot is loose. I never can get that rhythm at 3 dice but that's ok. I play there because I enjoy the games, the people, the customer service. I relax and unwind there. If I hit and go over the 300. Ill withdraw. If not it was fun. I go in with the expectation that ok I can play for ten min or 2 hours. I'm never gonna make 10,000 at 3 dice and I know that so if I'm looking to win big Ill play my Micro and RTG but if I'm looking to relax and gab and just have a real fun time I play at 3dice. Its that simple..... Now the customer service there is wonderful. That is one of the main reasons I enjoy playing there. I think I play about 500 to 2 grand a month there Enzo can look up because I don't keep track anymore. However bottom line KNOW ONE IS FORCING US TO PLAY THERE. Asking Enzo why are the slots this or that is like asking why is the sky blue? It is what it is people. A fun place to hang out and kill some time and relax. You know the slots are tight - dont invest as much play to relax... That's what I do. If I win I win. If I didn't I was able to talk to people from all over the world kill some time and have a little fun. (Like goiing to a movie buying the popcorn) but I did'nt have to leave the house. This is just my opinion please don't bash me.

 

[Stovetopp]

BASH!!!

 

[cpdnd31]

Ok if your gonna bash me at least let me put on that special little outfit I like to wear sometimes ROFL

 

[silcnlayc]

cpdnd31: However bottom line KNOW ONE IS FORCING US TO PLAY THERE.

You are absolutely right in this. But how long can 3Dice sustain the exodus before it cripples them and affect all players such as yourself, that enjoys all it has to offer unlike those of us that play just to play and not socialize?

I , too enjoyed their games, as tight as they are...but I had to close my purse when it became obvious that it didn't matter...they were a place that would not give, no matter what you spent in the long run. I am all for the "enjoyment" factor but at what cost?

cpdnd3: I never can get a feel of the games. There is no pattern... every gambler who plays their favorite games on any platform should know what I'm talking about. There's a rhythm you can feel when a slot is loose. I never can get that rhythm at 3 dice

Here you have hit the nail on the head. Perfectly. We, as long time gamblers know the odds are against us from the get go. But there are casinos that want us to return and use our spendable income at their place, so they toss in a win or two that makes up for about half of our losses, that makes us extremely happy...and we return to give them this back plus more...and we are "Happily" losing...because we felt that we beat them every once in while (a gamblers mentality) even if we only got half of our monthly stake back...hope I am not confusing anyone.


So, to create a casino that makes it almost impossible to win...I mean, when has anyone seen one of those whoppers they claim can be given up except in tourney mode? I mean...the promise is there, but it never carries through, unlike other casinos where you see wins after wins of some nice huge hits...REPEATEDLY...this, you do not see this with 3Dice...why?

3Dice is a unique casino and could be a great casino for us in the USA...but it chooses not to be, and with the lack of places we can play at, they could be a huge force against the RTG's and Rivals......and that my friends is sad...because I would gladly lose happily if I knew there was a chance of catching a few "good" ones so I could give it all back plus some, so I can claim I enjoyed the hell out of losing....but hey...it was fun!..
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[cpdnd31]

I understand exactly what you are saying. But my point is why invest as a real gambler there if you feel the odds are against you? Play where you know you can win. I have the best of both worlds because I invest big at other casinos and play for the hell of it at 3dice. Your right they could be huge in USA market and they are growing by rep everyday. The fact of the matter is not as many slots to choose from and the variances on the slots are killing people. Am I correct so what do you think they need to do to fix the problem. Enzo is always open to suggestions well lets suggest. What would you like to see 50 slots at high variances 2 slots with no variance (lol) how do we fix -What needs to be done. Its a great place. With a little more tweaking it could be the place. Until something is done tho Ill still keep it as my fun relaxing night out to play place and play heavy at rtg and micro ( have been itching to play at rival but just hate the customer service).

 

[silcnlayc]

cpdnd31, you have hit the nerve again...which is amazing that someone other than me can see the issues and the potential being thrown away.

Until something is done tho Ill still keep it as my fun relaxing night out to play place and play heavy at rtg and micro ( have been itching to play at rival but just hate the customer service).

This is what I have been doing, supplementing my losses at 3Dice with other casinos, which I continue to return to and continue to give up- my bankroll to. Think of what you just said and what I did. 3Dice is not our main casino...someone else is getting the bulk of our monies....why isn't 3Dice interested in cornering this market? RTG threw us away and so has Rival...my best wins have been at MG casinos and Top Game sad to say...THEY are interested in the USA market because we are HUGE and we are loyal and we do not mind losing huge if we can catch a small one every once in a while..and they have learned this, I believe..

But my point is why invest as a real gambler there if you feel the odds are against you?

Because of the eternal hope (popping Jod in the backside of her head for this one with affection of cours!) and the so called imaginary "big one" that was claimed can happen...but...I stopped and did what I should have done many, many deposits ago...closed and uninstalled.

You mentioned you deposit around $2000 a month to 3Dice..and lets assume I did too...but I chose to leave..and if a few more do the same..who will be hurting in th elong run? The casino will be, and they could not sustain such a loss of players for very long IMO. This doesn't even reflect the bulk of our monies we play at other casinos. This is a huge player base of monies being funneled to another place...why would they allow that?

As to fixing the problem at 3Dice...I do not know if it is the lack of slots..I have learned to LOVE the bubble game and when it first came out, I was able to catch a few good rounds to keep me playing...and I also caught a few 4 bubbles...But, this too has deteriorated to where the pay back with the bubbles are almost non existent...spending a few hundred dollars to catch a $3 bonus round just don't cut it..this here is where the problem lays. They are following in the footsteps of the other two platforms (RTG and Rival ) with lack of BONUS ROUND wins.

That is what needs fixing. The ultimate goal is to catch the bonus round or it used to be...because you would know you would have that much longer to play on and it would stretch your enjoyment. But no longer...I mean..you cannot even catch one close to 5x your bet anymore.

So...this would be a good start..stop giving piss poor bonus rounds is #1...because winning $3 on a $250 investment is not kosher and is not player friendly...makes one want to avoid the casino altogether..

I know I have played back many a bonus win just because I was enjoying myself..so it is not like they will lose in the long run because I know others have done the same...as I said...we , as gamblers, would "happily" lose all if we can win some to lose...

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[denamoutz]

all i know is that some people are winning at 3dice. I have chat open all the time, and i see a lot of red, it may not be you or me but there are people winning. I always see a lot of red for the tut slot.

 

[silcnlayc]

denamoutz: all i know is that some people are winning at 3dice. I have chat open all the time, and i see a lot of red, it may not be you or me but there are people winning. I always see a lot of red for the tut slot.

I saw the pop ups for winners also and 99% (somewhat a slight exaggeration) of them were in tourney mode I believe...

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[denamoutz]

no, if it shows up in red in chat it is real play, it will say someone won $$$$$ playing tut. the blue is tourney mode

 

[denamoutz]

of course their is lots of blue, cause that is tourney mode, but i also see lots of red!!!!

 

[jelsmith]

no, if it shows up in red in chat it is real play, it will say someone won $$$$$ playing tut. the blue is tourney mode

Dena is correct. Only RED is real play......and yes I see a lot of it, unfortunatly is not going into my account

 

[cpdnd31]

That is a wonderful point that you brought up. I have spent hundreds on a machine Example Break the bank (micro) knowing that when I hit the bonus round it will be worth the loss. But at 3Dice you can't play like that. I too have won hundreds there and played it back just for the enjoyment. I figured ok I got a big enough bank roll that I can play a couple of hours and enjoy myself but it is frustrating when you invest 50. or 350. in a machine no matter what bet size and bonus rounds give you nothing. That's why I like slots its not for jackpot win its for hitting the jackpot. (hope not to confusing) But still if 3dice chooses to have their games pay like that then it is their lost. They may not want to be a big player casino in the USA market they may want to be smaller and stay out of the radar if you know what I mean. Its still a great place as long as you play with the mindset of this is fun time not I'm gonna win 10 grand here. At micro I know what I can win and I play to win it. At rtg I play medium because they are a little consistent with there games and payouts at 3dice I take my time and bet what I want and what I'm in the mood for.