What casinos have the best payouts UK?

[bamberfishcake]

Another nail in the online coffin.

Hopefully awareness increases and people put their money into the ones with max rtp rather than settling for less.

The only hope i can see is for lower versions to become so unpopular, the higher versions make more money for the casinos.

For the first month in 2 years i deposited more somewhere other than Videoslots, which happened to be Unibet.

Videoslots dont see any of my PnG, Red Tiger or No Limit City spend. I dont play too much Pragmatic but wouldnt entertain it unless max, if there is a max version about.

When this thread started LV Bet were proud to claim max rtp. If enough people cause enough of a shift for it to be noticed then it just wont make sense for the casinos to opt for a cheaper, more profitable version.

If they all drop them then were stuffed but hopefully someone will fill the gap in the market with 'max rtp casino' if that happens.

Imagine the marketing, you could ruin the competition.

 

[goatwack]

It'll just become a gradual desensitization towards acceptable RTP.

Sure, first few months people may seek out the higher versions of said games and think they're 'getting the best available' versions......

Then those will be nerfed and punters (generally not being overly fussed so long as they can still play their favourites) will happily churn away at the 94% versions. Then along toddle the lower % versions of those and repeat, until we're all accustomed to playing 89% RTP gimped monstrosities

 

[dealer wins]

Lets hope people pay attention to the RTPs, even a 1% change is massive, especially over a year of slotting.

Take someone who plays 10 hours a week at £1 a spin, who spins 15 times a minute. Thats a total of 468000 spins.

That 1% is an extra loss of £4680 a year!!

But rather than it costing people extra money, it will probably cost people time playing, as most people have a fixed budget, so the effect of shit RTPs is much less playtime for your money.

 

[Playford7]

Good Morning!

To my knowledge, and I will confirm this on Monday, the plans to send an email with regards to this are there.

We cannot just “assume” people will check these sorts of things. Especially players that might not be well versed in how Online Casinos work.

I completely understand the love to like conundrum. Trust me. The reason I haven’t answered the previous post was that both Stan and I were stumped on how we can answer back. But both of us appreciate the constructive criticism on the matter.

Let me know if you have any other thoughts in your head that you might want us to try to answer. But remember, the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42 (except RTPs.)

Take care and stay healthy!
Tyler

So is LV changing RTP?
Sorry after my jail time I’m just catching up.
Also can the rep get back to me via PM regarding the concern I had please about security on my account.

 

[Kroffe]

Lets hope people pay attention to the RTPs, even a 1% change is massive, especially over a year of slotting.

Take someone who plays 10 hours a week at £1 a spin, who spins 15 times a minute. Thats a total of 468000 spins.

That 1% is an extra loss of £4680 a year!!

But rather than it costing people extra money, it will probably cost people time playing, as most people have a fixed budget, so the effect of shit RTPs is much less playtime for your money.

Thats why i think its important that people seek out the highest rtp-versions.
Casinos lowering the rtp need to see a reduction in deposits and casinos keeping the high rtp need to see an increase.
Why else would any casino even consider keeping the high rtp.

 

[Flyingslotsman]

Hey guys and girls,

Just a quick update from the last post.

We're actually putting out an Onsite Message once the RTP changes are in place.

We understand that sometimes E-Mails are going the same ways as Snail Mail and being ignored or being thrown into the Spam Folder. Therefore, there are two things happening here to ensure we reach all our customers on the matter -

1) All players that open the game from the 1st of April and have played our collection of PNG games before the change will get a Pop Up advising that them the RTP has been changed.

2) An Onsite Message will be sent to players informing them that the RTP was changed in PNG Games.

I think we can all agree that we're putting as many warning signs as we can to ensure that customers know that the RTP has been changed.

Let me know if you have any more questions


Kind Regards,
Tyler
LV BET

got this today

 

[bamberfishcake]

Sadly Energy Casino are also lowering RTP on PlaynGo.......



Such a shame for me as i had just started to play a bit more there with the intention of them becoming my casino of choice. They have all inclusive daily tournaments based on equalised wins.

 

[Nicplo007]

Trada's customer support says Book of Dead RTP is 94.25%

 

[bamberfishcake]

Trada's customer support says Book of Dead RTP is 94.25%

They could have increased it. I have not checked since the last list.

Check the help files in the game.

Yoiu can also do a further check as shown in this thread....

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

Some casinos were found to run a lower version than shown in the help files. Though the help files should always stack up to the version running.

 

[Nicplo007]

Thanks for what you do and would love to investigate further but unfortunately I'm not from the UK, so cannot even open any games. Or can I still check the code somehow?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Thanks for what you do and would love to investigate further but unfortunately I'm not from the UK, so cannot even open any games. Or can I still check the code somehow?

Though this is a UK guide some casino groups use the same rtp across the board i think.

You can check the rtp by clicking on the help file symbol when in game. For PlaynGo its the '?' shown in the bottom left hand corner of this screenshot which then opens up to tell the rtp, as shown in the second:





I would recommend watching the video on the first page of the thread i mentioned....

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

 

[GameRoom]

I keep a list of the RTP of the UK casinos that i play at and will be sharing this each month.

Remember, the lower the % the lower the game is fixed to give back or pay!

The stats are checked within a week of publishing and this is by no means a comprehensive list so it must be said -

'Check the RTP before playing, anywhere!'.

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The 3 on my list to watch if you wish to avoid the lower paying versions are Videoslots, Trada and Grosvenor. I hear Coral also have lower RTP on some providers.

This month has seen Cashmio and Dunder also lower RTP although I have found only one game on each site, amongst what i have checked.

I will put this in a friendlier format when i have a minute and invite you all to contribute as it will help us out.

Knowledge is power, know what your playing!

nice one,I only check book of dead if RTP is 94% all games have low RTP,when Book of Dead have 96% rtp that casino is more likely to have all games good RTP,but problem is that most casinos dont let you check RTP before you join,I join so many casino I never play when I see low RTP

 

[bamberfishcake]

nice one,I only check book of dead if RTP is 94% all games have low RTP,when Book of Dead have 96% rtp that casino is more likely to have all games good RTP,but problem is that most casinos dont let you check RTP before you join,I join so many casino I never play when I see low RTP

Yes you do find if its reduced on one its the same across the board for that provider.

Its worth checking the latest releases as some start sneaking them in that way.

Good to hear you are making the effort to avoid the lower versions. Hopefully it pays

 

[slot_zombie]

I would like to offer stsbet.co.uk as a partial suggestion for the ever-more elusive max (fair) RTP.

They have an RTP tab which lists the RTP on all their games. For the moment at least, Netent and Play n Go are on the factory settings. The Red Tigers are another story - set as low as online regulations allow, down in the gutter at 90-91%, but that is fast becoming the norm across all casinos with that dreadful provider.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I would like to offer stsbet.co.uk as a partial suggestion for the ever-more elusive max (fair) RTP.

They have an RTP tab which lists the RTP on all their games. For the moment at least, Netent and Play n Go are on the factory settings. The Red Tigers are another story - set as low as online regulations allow, down in the gutter at 90-91%, but that is fast becoming the norm across all casinos with that dreadful provider.

Thanks for sharing.

The next list is in a new format showing RTP's as low/med/high.

It makes it easier at a glance to see where you can play your favourite providers at the best return.

With your info I can easily add STSBet to the list based on Red Tiger - Low, Netent - High, PlaynGo - High with a question mark next to the others.

This way it will be easier all round i think to share the info without too much work.

 

[CasinoNinja]

Sad to see that Rizk is also now slowly sneaking in low rtp versions of games, this is from Charlie Chance from Play and Go..

 

[bamberfishcake]

Sad to see that Rizk is also now slowly sneaking in low rtp versions of games, this is from Charlie Chance from Play and Go..

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Thanks for sharing.

Yes very sad. The groups sites were some of the best to play at.

I wonder if this is a test of the water for Betsson and their other sites are to follow.

It think the sensible player will stop playing PlaynGo because you just dont know what return you are getting anymore or what version you are playing.

With RTP as low as 91% why would you play that when there are thousands of other slots over 96%?

In the main, most players dont know but i think awareness has definitely increased through CM over the last few months and i think CM has more of an impact then some care to admit.

And, as a result, I am hoping the big spenders start shifting their accounts slowly but surely across to the better sites or providers - you dont necessarily have to find PlaynGo at max, just dont play PlaynGo, makes life easier than checking every time to see what version you are playing

I will share the updated list very soon.

Sorry for the delay if anybody is actually waiting, its been a turbulent few weeks.

 

[flyerskyangle]

Thanks for sharing.

Yes very sad. The groups sites were some of the best to play at.

I wonder if this is a test of the water for Betsson and their other sites are to follow.

It think the sensible player will stop playing PlaynGo because you just dont know what return you are getting anymore or what version you are playing.

With RTP as low as 91% why would you play that when there are thousands of other slots over 96%?

In the main, most players dont know but i think awareness has definitely increased through CM over the last few months and i think CM has more of an impact then some care to admit.

And, as a result, I am hoping the big spenders start shifting their accounts slowly but surely across to the better sites or providers - you dont necessarily have to find PlaynGo at max, just dont play PlaynGo, makes life easier than checking every time to see what version you are playing

I will share the updated list very soon.

Sorry for the delay if anybody is actually waiting, its been a turbulent few weeks.

Bitstarz RTP of the PNG?
These two days lost more that 1500 usd at a single slot ,bet at 0.5 usd,Dirty busted,PNG.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Here's my latest RTP checks.

If your unfamiliar with RTP I would read the first page and watch the video of this thread:

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

In simple terms there are different paying versions of the same slots. Some will be made to give back 96% of your stake and others 92% - The slot will look and feel the same but is designed to take more of your money than another version, or vice versa.

The following list shows where you can play your favourite slots at the highest programmed return.

Ive changed the format so its easier to find the highest paying versions at a glance. By no means a comprehensive list, please......

'Check the RTP before playing, anywhere!'.


Casinos in Green are max RTP across all providers.

Casinos in Red offer lower paying versions to their customers.

HIGH - Top Return To Player- These are the versions we should all be playing for the best chance of fun.
MED - Medium RTP - Around 94%
LOW - Lowest RTP - Anything 2 below or more from the top paying version..



Next time I am hoping to add more names in green ('good luck with that' i hear the naysayers cry) but I believe Fruity Casa and some others from that group may be max as they are sisters to 21casino. I also have a whole host of casinos to catch up on that i believe are max but dont want to list until i have checked.

I wish i had more time to make this more concise but i hope it helps.

Feel free to pop a name in if you are sure or make suggestions or help to keep tabs.

Some words of caution - Just because Book Of Dead is the highest paying version it doesnt mean all Play and Go on that site/group will be. Most casinos dropping seem to be sneaking in their new PnG releases on mid versions.

 

[Playford7]

Here's my latest RTP checks.

If your unfamiliar with RTP I would read the first page and watch the video of this thread:

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

In simple terms there are different paying versions of the same slots. Some will be made to give back 96% of your stake and others 92% - The slot will look and feel the same but is designed to take more of your money than another version, or vice versa.

The following list shows where you can play your favourite slots at the highest programmed return.

Ive changed the format so its easier to find the highest paying versions at a glance. By no means a comprehensive list, please......

'Check the RTP before playing, anywhere!'.


Casinos in Green are max RTP across all providers.

Casinos in Red offer lower paying versions to their customers.

HIGH - Top Return To Player- These are the versions we should all be playing for the best chance of fun.
MED - Medium RTP - Around 94%
LOW - Lowest RTP - Anything 2 below or more from the top paying version..

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Next time I am hoping to add more names in green ('good luck with that' i hear the naysayers cry) but I believe Fruity Casa and some others from that group may be max as they are sisters to 21casino. I also have a whole host of casinos to catch up on that i believe are max but dont want to list until i have checked.

I wish i had more time to make this more concise but i hope it helps.

Feel free to pop a name in if you are sure or make suggestions or help to keep tabs.

Some words of caution - Just because Book Of Dead is the highest paying version it doesnt mean all Play and Go on that site/group will be. Most casinos dropping seem to be sneaking in their new PnG releases on mid versions.

Are not most if not all the white hat/caddell lot giving the best RTP?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Are not most if not all the white hat/caddell lot giving the best RTP?

Yes, I believe so just didnt want to list as had not checked.

 

[Playford7]

Yes, I believe so just didnt want to list as had not checked.

All the ones i checked are highest RTP.
As I said before if they keep that up and start instant withdrawals, have a rep and keep 24 hour chat it would be crazy to play elsewhere.

 

[bamberfishcake]

All the ones i checked are highest RTP.
As I said before if they keep that up and start instant withdrawals, have a rep and keep 24 hour chat it would be crazy to play elsewhere.

I agree.

In my experience, generally in the UK industry most service is of a similar standard as are the bonuses or rewards (which are being pegged back) and anyone can slap a SOW or extra ID at any time. Apart from that its about finding the best paying version on the most reliable platform for me now.

 

[Playford7]

I agree.

In my experience, generally in the UK industry most service is of a similar standard as are the bonuses or rewards (which are being pegged back) and anyone can slap a SOW or extra ID at any time. Apart from that its about finding the best paying version on the most reliable platform for me now.

L and L can’t say a bad word, I’ll just avoid the bad RTP games there.
The other places I’ll play will solely be white hat.
That’s as limited the choice is really if you want to be paid, high RTP and a great rep/reps and selection of games.
As experienced players due to the ukgc our choices now are limited, but casinos did themselves no favours with a lot of the nonsense they pulled.

 

[pinnit2014]

Must admit, Unibet are starting to grow on me in general: fast cashouts but they seem to be offering more now: deposit matches, wager 100 quid get 10 quid, the tournaments, reasonable wagering etc: areas where they were previously lacking.

Of all the ones in green I'd expect them to be one of the last men standing in terms of higher RTP's etc (I can see calzone disappearing to the UK), Novi are great but not overly large i don't think.

Trada, on the other hand, look...errr...awesome.