Didnt know that. Would have thought all games counted ..
To clarify, only the jackpot games don't give XP points.
What I mean is that a game with 93% and one with 82% or 50% or even 1% RTP will give the same XP points for the same amount wagered.
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Didnt know that. Would have thought all games counted ..
To clarify, only the jackpot games don't give XP points.
What I mean is that a game with 93% and one with 82% or 50% or even 1% RTP will give the same XP points for the same amount wagered.

I intended to play at some other casinos for to add some new sites but as I blew a lot of money at one casino since my last post in here I am restricting my deposits for a whileNot pointless, at least we have an idea that Guts are probably still Max RTP as of today
BGO still not taken heed of the RTP revolution!
Data good in my book.

I intended to play at some other casinos for to add some new sites but as I blew a lot of money at one casino since my last post in here I am restricting my deposits for a while![]()
Thats great for bingo lovers but I can not stand bingo no matter if the bonus has zero wageringTombola, all there slot games have a
- Return to player is 98.48%
ALSO if you do sign up use one these codes GZNGJ QRPSG ZHZTQ CPZPP GFWLT
You get £5 free to try and also get a 200% bonus with 0 wagering
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To our amazing players,
As you know Stan and myself have always tried to be on the transparent and honest side of what’s going on internally at LV BET.
Therefore, we have some important news that we need to share. Within the coming days, we will, unfortunately, be switching certain games from PNG to the lower RTP Version (94%). This is not a decision taken lightly and we understand that it will not be a well-met decision by yourselves.
The games affected by the changes will have their game information updated of course and a Pop Up will appear on the game itself to inform you when the change has occurred.
In our efforts, as one of the smaller casinos to continue to offer our high level of service, for our promotions to be able to continue to increase, and our bonus system to keep its quality, it is a decision that we must take.
While the decision is not the easiest one to reveal so openly, we do so in knowing that honesty and transparency with our players are more important in the long run. We do so because we believe that communication is what sets us apart from our competitors.
While PNG will be reduced, we can assure all of you that we still offer some of the highest if not highest RTPs on other game providers at our casino. By other providers, we are referring to BF Games, NetEnt, Thunderkick, Pragmatic Play, Blueprint, Wazdan, Merkur, Greentube, Microgaming, Big Time Gaming and Pariplay.
We’re not taking this decision lightly and we assure you that if the opportunity returns to raise them back, we will be first ones to do so.
Regards,
Tyler & Stan
LV BET

I intended to play at some other casinos for to add some new sites but as I blew a lot of money at one casino since my last post in here I am restricting my deposits for a while![]()
Its also got loads of different games on there with same 98.5% RTP Not just bingo , Its basically free money !Thats great for bingo lovers but I can not stand bingo no matter if the bonus has zero wagering
Wishing you all the best luck !Had to copy and paste this from 37 different pages because the casino filter only gives small amount per page, this is how Golden Glyph destroys £75 @ 60p only 2 wins £4.05 and £4.50 that went above the £4 mark and only one hit in the £3 area which was exactly £3.
229 spins @ 60p and only twice did it pay above £4
Can't be arsed copying 30 pags of Reactoonz but it was pretty much the same result.
Pretty much sums slots up nowadays, base game completely destroys the balance with not even a x10 win
and no bonus, thus 9/10 it's rip city and if somehow the bonus comes welcome to dead spin city x10 bonus.
Cheers for the code. I got up to about 12 quid then upped the bet to 50ps cos the slot was so boring and blew out. I could only see 2 games and they where both awful?Its also got loads of different games on there with same 98.5% RTP Not just bingo , Its basically free money !
@geordiecolin I noticed you claimed the free £5 !, Did you have any luck, dont forget the 200% match which has 0 wageringWishing you all the best luck !
My problem is that I am miles away from my bank and I usually have more stashed at home than I do in the bank. I've been struggling myself with the symptoms over the past 6 days so I can't go anywhere. I need to leave something in to keep me going and I have two daughters who often use the bank of dadI changed from like to love to like to love again.
Sorry to see the PlaynGo being lowered but i can see you value the importance and that's enough for me.
I still think your a great casino and at least i can just choose to play the other providers if i wish.
I dont think many are as bothered as me though so i understand the business decision. PlaynGo must make a big % of your turnover.
I still think to be number 1 you need to be the best in every way but your saving me a bit of time with the input and giving the option of informed choice.
Thanks (i think)![]()

Cheers for the code. I got up to about 12 quid then upped the bet to 50ps cos the slot was so boring and blew out. I could only see 2 games and they where both awful?
Did you go on Old Link Removed
theirs quite of few different games not sure why you only seen 2
Thers 10 slot games
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Couldn't disagree moreAnd they are all the biggest pile of crap there is.![]()

I didn't check those out what with names like bingo scratch cards and go!Did you go on Old Link Removed
theirs quite of few different games not sure why you only seen 2
Thers 10 slot games
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To our amazing players,
As you know Stan and myself have always tried to be on the transparent and honest side of what’s going on internally at LV BET.
Therefore, we have some important news that we need to share. Within the coming days, we will, unfortunately, be switching certain games from PNG to the lower RTP Version (94%). This is not a decision taken lightly and we understand that it will not be a well-met decision by yourselves.
The games affected by the changes will have their game information updated of course and a Pop Up will appear on the game itself to inform you when the change has occurred.
In our efforts, as one of the smaller casinos to continue to offer our high level of service, for our promotions to be able to continue to increase, and our bonus system to keep its quality, it is a decision that we must take.
While the decision is not the easiest one to reveal so openly, we do so in knowing that honesty and transparency with our players are more important in the long run. We do so because we believe that communication is what sets us apart from our competitors.
While PNG will be reduced, we can assure all of you that we still offer some of the highest if not highest RTPs on other game providers at our casino. By other providers, we are referring to BF Games, NetEnt, Thunderkick, Pragmatic Play, Blueprint, Wazdan, Merkur, Greentube, Microgaming, Big Time Gaming and Pariplay.
We’re not taking this decision lightly and we assure you that if the opportunity returns to raise them back, we will be first ones to do so.
Regards,
Tyler & Stan
LV BET

Hi Tyler & Stan,
I appreciate you being so open and up front about the reduction in RTP.
Not looking to rattle any cages or woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning but i have been wondering -
Are you planning on emailing customers informing as you have on here?
Much Love
Edit: In hindsight I guess its a silly question. It would be a strange email to send and i guess people should be checking before they play.
Still much love but im just going to sneak by previous love back to a like, it sits better with me that way, i still love you but how can i love a reduction in rtp.
I am grateful for you letting me know though.

Did you miss the part about "a popup will appear"
So everyone will be informed when the change has taken place.
Sadly, the majority wont know what it means im guessing.

Hi Tyler & Stan,
I appreciate you being so open and up front about the reduction in RTP.
Not looking to rattle any cages or woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning but i have been wondering -
Are you planning on emailing customers informing as you have on here?
Much Love
Edit: In hindsight I guess its a silly question. It would be a strange email to send and i guess people should be checking before they play.
Still much love but im just going to sneak by previous love back to a like, it sits better with me that way, i still love you but how can i love a reduction in rtp.
I am grateful for you letting me know though.

Another nail in the online coffin.
So is LV changing RTP?Good Morning!
To my knowledge, and I will confirm this on Monday, the plans to send an email with regards to this are there.
We cannot just “assume” people will check these sorts of things. Especially players that might not be well versed in how Online Casinos work.
I completely understand the love to like conundrum. Trust me. The reason I haven’t answered the previous post was that both Stan and I were stumped on how we can answer back. But both of us appreciate the constructive criticism on the matter.
Let me know if you have any other thoughts in your head that you might want us to try to answer. But remember, the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42 (except RTPs.)
Take care and stay healthy!
Tyler
Thats why i think its important that people seek out the highest rtp-versions.Lets hope people pay attention to the RTPs, even a 1% change is massive, especially over a year of slotting.
Take someone who plays 10 hours a week at £1 a spin, who spins 15 times a minute. Thats a total of 468000 spins.
That 1% is an extra loss of £4680 a year!!
But rather than it costing people extra money, it will probably cost people time playing, as most people have a fixed budget, so the effect of shit RTPs is much less playtime for your money.
Hey guys and girls,
Just a quick update from the last post.
We're actually putting out an Onsite Message once the RTP changes are in place.
We understand that sometimes E-Mails are going the same ways as Snail Mail and being ignored or being thrown into the Spam Folder. Therefore, there are two things happening here to ensure we reach all our customers on the matter -
1) All players that open the game from the 1st of April and have played our collection of PNG games before the change will get a Pop Up advising that them the RTP has been changed.
2) An Onsite Message will be sent to players informing them that the RTP was changed in PNG Games.
I think we can all agree that we're putting as many warning signs as we can to ensure that customers know that the RTP has been changed.
Let me know if you have any more questions
Kind Regards,
Tyler
LV BET

Trada's customer support says Book of Dead RTP is 94.25%![]()
Thanks for what you do and would love to investigate further but unfortunately I'm not from the UK, so cannot even open any games. Or can I still check the code somehow?
nice one,I only check book of dead if RTP is 94% all games have low RTP,when Book of Dead have 96% rtp that casino is more likely to have all games good RTP,but problem is that most casinos dont let you check RTP before you join,I join so many casino I never play when I see low RTPI keep a list of the RTP of the UK casinos that i play at and will be sharing this each month.
Remember, the lower the % the lower the game is fixed to give back or pay!
The stats are checked within a week of publishing and this is by no means a comprehensive list so it must be said -
'Check the RTP before playing, anywhere!'.
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The 3 on my list to watch if you wish to avoid the lower paying versions are Videoslots, Trada and Grosvenor. I hear Coral also have lower RTP on some providers.
This month has seen Cashmio and Dunder also lower RTP although I have found only one game on each site, amongst what i have checked.
I will put this in a friendlier format when i have a minute and invite you all to contribute as it will help us out.
Knowledge is power, know what your playing!
nice one,I only check book of dead if RTP is 94% all games have low RTP,when Book of Dead have 96% rtp that casino is more likely to have all games good RTP,but problem is that most casinos dont let you check RTP before you join,I join so many casino I never play when I see low RTP

I would like to offer stsbet.co.uk as a partial suggestion for the ever-more elusive max (fair) RTP.
They have an RTP tab which lists the RTP on all their games. For the moment at least, Netent and Play n Go are on the factory settings. The Red Tigers are another story - set as low as online regulations allow, down in the gutter at 90-91%, but that is fast becoming the norm across all casinos with that dreadful provider.
Sad to see that Rizk is also now slowly sneaking in low rtp versions of games, this is from Charlie Chance from Play and Go..
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Thanks for sharing.
Yes very sad. The groups sites were some of the best to play at.
I wonder if this is a test of the water for Betsson and their other sites are to follow.
It think the sensible player will stop playing PlaynGo because you just dont know what return you are getting anymore or what version you are playing.
With RTP as low as 91% why would you play that when there are thousands of other slots over 96%?
In the main, most players dont know but i think awareness has definitely increased through CM over the last few months and i think CM has more of an impact then some care to admit.
And, as a result, I am hoping the big spenders start shifting their accounts slowly but surely across to the better sites or providers - you dont necessarily have to find PlaynGo at max, just dont play PlaynGo, makes life easier than checking every time to see what version you are playing
I will share the updated list very soon.
Sorry for the delay if anybody is actually waiting, its been a turbulent few weeks.
Are not most if not all the white hat/caddell lot giving the best RTP?Here's my latest RTP checks.
If your unfamiliar with RTP I would read the first page and watch the video of this thread:
GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license
In simple terms there are different paying versions of the same slots. Some will be made to give back 96% of your stake and others 92% - The slot will look and feel the same but is designed to take more of your money than another version, or vice versa.
The following list shows where you can play your favourite slots at the highest programmed return.
Ive changed the format so its easier to find the highest paying versions at a glance. By no means a comprehensive list, please......
'Check the RTP before playing, anywhere!'.
Casinos in Green are max RTP across all providers.
Casinos in Red offer lower paying versions to their customers.
HIGH - Top Return To Player- These are the versions we should all be playing for the best chance of fun.
MED - Medium RTP - Around 94%
LOW - Lowest RTP - Anything 2 below or more from the top paying version..
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Next time I am hoping to add more names in green ('good luck with that' i hear the naysayers cry) but I believe Fruity Casa and some others from that group may be max as they are sisters to 21casino. I also have a whole host of casinos to catch up on that i believe are max but dont want to list until i have checked.
I wish i had more time to make this more concise but i hope it helps.
Feel free to pop a name in if you are sure or make suggestions or help to keep tabs.
Some words of caution - Just because Book Of Dead is the highest paying version it doesnt mean all Play and Go on that site/group will be. Most casinos dropping seem to be sneaking in their new PnG releases on mid versions.
Are not most if not all the white hat/caddell lot giving the best RTP?
All the ones i checked are highest RTP.Yes, I believe so just didnt want to list as had not checked.
All the ones i checked are highest RTP.
As I said before if they keep that up and start instant withdrawals, have a rep and keep 24 hour chat it would be crazy to play elsewhere.
L and L can’t say a bad word, I’ll just avoid the bad RTP games there.I agree.
In my experience, generally in the UK industry most service is of a similar standard as are the bonuses or rewards (which are being pegged back) and anyone can slap a SOW or extra ID at any time. Apart from that its about finding the best paying version on the most reliable platform for me now.
