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Discussion in 'America the Beautiful' started by Mousey, Feb 13, 2007.

    Feb 13, 2007
  1. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
     
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  2. Feb 13, 2007
  3. cynthial

    cynthial Boo

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    This is not OK!

    The elected officials of our once great country seem to have lost all perspective here. These items are antiques of value and interest to many people. I feel like I am in an old episode of the Twilight Zone.
    Where have our freedoms gone? Jeez, this is just really starting to piss me off! I want my "inalienable rights" back, NOW!
     
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  4. Feb 13, 2007
  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Heil Bush!


    What FUCKING IDIOTS. I surely hope the shop owners turn around and sue the fucking DoJ. This is getting rediculous.

    Sorry for my language, but shit like this pisses me off. It also makes me embarrased to be an American.

    If I had the money to relocate overseas, I would gladly renounce my citizenship, no questions asked. It's not because of the UIGEA, it's the principle behind it.


    PS: Can you please provide the link to the source of this article? Thanks...
     
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  6. Feb 13, 2007
  7. kwblue

    kwblue Webmaster webmeister

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    This kind of crap just enrages me. This is typical of the government officials we have in office today. It's sickening that they can just take off with $77k of people's valuables in the name of the law.

    It's theft and the DOJ should be brought up on charges, IMO.
     
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  8. Feb 13, 2007
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    What the hell is next? Are they going to fucking outlaw the sale of playing cards and poker chips? How about poker tables? wtf....

    Are they going to shut down Vegas, AC, Reno, Henderson, all of the riverboats in various states?

    Does anyone remember the movie "Escape from LA"? This is turning out to be exactly like that. Soon it will be illegal to have sex if you're not married, they will throw you in jail for not going to church, for smoking, etc.

    EFF YOU BUSH AND CO.
     
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  10. Feb 13, 2007
  11. Addisyn

    Addisyn Dormant account

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    What you all said. If I go off on a rant I will use up all of Bryan's bandwidth.

    Couldn't have said it better myself. winbig. I wonder who is getting this booty? They are now stealing from the citizens directly. OMFG!

    :eek2:
     
  12. Feb 13, 2007
  13. mikepipe

    mikepipe Dormant account

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    lets hope for Obama!
     
  14. Feb 13, 2007
  15. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    It seems that US enforcers have lost all sense of perspective...and they are certainly out of control and in desperate need of a serious reining in.

    This sort of crazy jackboot enforcement has no place in the America I know (or should that be 'in the America I have known')
     
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  16. Feb 13, 2007
  17. LadyHoldem

    LadyHoldem Dormant account

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    that's an insane and crazy misuse of power.. to take someone's property where they obviously had no intent towards misuse.. .to just take away their lively hood..

    I don't know if you can blame the DOJ, afterall theyre supposed to be pricks.. but wow.. our laws just seem crazier and crazier.. sometimes I just have to take a break from all these forums before I start thinking I live in a caged environment.. to think, without the net, we'd never have heard about these people being robbed..

    ~LadyH
     
  18. Feb 13, 2007
  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    And we'd be living in a fairytale world thinking everything is alright. It pays to be informed...
     
  20. Feb 13, 2007
  21. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    Oops! I was so mad I forgot to put the link in! LOL Here ya go...

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Oh... and while we're on ridiculous gambling siezures.... Here's another that will curl your hair...

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  22. Feb 13, 2007
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Sounds like the RIAA going after grandmothers and children.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

     
  24. Feb 13, 2007
  25. REOdeathwagon

    REOdeathwagon Experienced Member

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    I think the odd thing about the Montana story, was that it happened in Montana. Usually they kind of stay out of one anothers business in that state. Definately an overzealous Gambling Control Division officer, with too much time on his hands. Hopefully the citizens administer some frontier justice back at his azz. I would think that the defendant would have a very winnable case against the Gambling Control Division if he decided to sue.

    It's sad because I like those kind of antiques myself. They are representive of the old west gambling, saloon, cathouse, boomtown, mining culture that Montana is known for.

    The Lake Elsinore story, well they're in direct competetion with the casino there. That could be why they ended up in court? Very similar to the online gaming BS we are dealing with.
     
  26. Feb 13, 2007
  27. REOdeathwagon

    REOdeathwagon Experienced Member

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    Uh Ooh, rant time.

    I support fully the rights of artists to make a good living doing what they're doing. And the producers, engineers, A&R, etc.
    Most musicians get into music for free liquor, chicks, and the love of music. The $$ is cool, but it shouldn't be the main thing to a true artist. When Metallica went against Napster, I instantly hated them. They had already truly sold out by that time, made millions, and wanted more millions, screw 'em. I bought Metallicas first album brand new, first issue. I sold it for a tidy profit, do they want a cut of that too? I get a woody now, when I D/L the old Metallica songs off the internet. Don't even listen to the music, just D/L for the spite of it. I would not even consider ever giving the band one more cent of revenue till the day I die.


    I generally support copyrights and intellectual property rights.
    I love getting new Cd's, they're like a beer you can drink again and again. But where I disagree, is when I think that I am being ripped off. $20.00 for a new CD, that's too much, if I can get it for free on the internet, damn skippy I will. It costs alot less than $2.00 to make and market CD, if they were sold with a reasonable markup, I would still be buying them.
    $95 for Windows, I feel as though MS is anti-competitive and taking advantage of users, I hope that the users in return steal it from MS. Even if MS uses that as a reason to raise the price on me a little bit. I like the updates, so I bought my copy.

    The music industry got too greedy and bloated from 1960 thru the present, that is why the public does not shed tears for them. Don't they already get revenues from the sale of all the blank cd's, and videotapes sold, as well as a percentage of the sales of the hardware that can record music?

    Now if we could only D/L free oil!....Utopia


    Right on Fannie.


    I do not fear of them, fear of the viruses, that come with the free tunes. This is the same tactic the DOJ is using against I Gaming.

    I wouldn't doubt for a second if they did financial background check on their potential victims before they filed suit.

    Gutless wankers

    Good, at a buck a song. They can go die.


    CHEERS!
     
  28. Feb 13, 2007
  29. Cynthia777

    Cynthia777 Senior Member

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    That is so proposterous...sounds like crooked officials to me...how can they even deem it illegal if it is not actually even being used, and the man is an antique collector, for goodness sakes!! Any lawyer worth their salt should be pounding on that poor man's door....should surely be a case against those "authorities"?? How about those slot machines we see in bars, etc..that read "For Amusement Only"?? and are out in the open and there's no proof people are cashin out...cops walk past all the time, and they don't even bother the tavern owners about it..they are more concerned with REAL crime issues...

    To me it sounds awful fishy that these "officials" weed their way into what just happens to have a lot of value
     
  30. Feb 13, 2007
  31. Rettahs

    Rettahs Dormant account

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    I am just to worn out to fully comment here, way too many directions I could go and rant on forever. I am tired of it all.
     
  32. Feb 13, 2007
  33. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    That's an oxymoron. I don't think such a creature exists.
     
  34. Mar 23, 2007
  35. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    Here's a followup story on the seizure of the antique gambling stuff from the antique dealer...

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    Bill takes up antique gambling devices
    By CHARLES S. JOHNSON
    Gazette State Bureau

    HELENA - A House committee heard testimony Wednesday but took no action on a bill to allow licensed businesses to sell up to three antique, now-illegal gambling devices in a year.

    Sen. Verdell Jackson, R-Kalispell, R-Kalispell, said the Senate Business and Labor Committee members collaborated on the bill. They wrote it after reading about the uproar arising from state gambling investigators' seizure of $77,000 worth of old-time gambling equipment from the Cowboy Cabin, a Whitefish antique store, on Jan. 31.

    State law now forbids the possession, even in a private home, of old-time gambling equipment. However, the law does allow a licensed dealer to pay a $50 license fee and to sell three antique slot machines every 12 months.

    Jackson wants to extend this law to other antique gambling equipment, which is defined as being more than 25 years old. That would include the blackjack table, chuck-a-luck (dice in a hourglass-shaped cage), a roulette table and wheel and two punchboards that the state seized from the Cowboy Cabin earlier this year.


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  36. Mar 23, 2007
  37. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    WE LIVE IN A POLICE STATE

    We are guilty until we can prove ourselves innocent. Costing thousands of dollars to defend ourselves and if found not guilty cost of defense not reimbursed

    Supreme court judges that no longer uphold the u.s. constitution and Bill of Rights. FBI and Department of Justice given full reign to invade our privacy under the guise of investigating terrorist activities. Laws passed based on which lobbyist groups can pay the most. People only care about unjust laws when they are personally affected. At least my friends and neighbors. I can't seem to make them understand how even though certain laws may not directly affect them the laws themselves are taking away personal rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Rights that are disappearing at a fast pace.

    I would have liked to have been of legal age during the 60's. That was a group of citizens that stood up for what they believed in. Whether you believe they were right or wrong, at least they didn't just sit there an take it.

    They banned together, something you rarely see today from the average joe.

    The Religous groups, and big business are raising money and buying our elected officials. We are left working our butts off to pay taxes and being told where we can spend the money thats left over.

    I am sick of Governments interfence in personal lives. Good lord, they need to stay out of personal, private matters and deal with the task of running this Country the way it should be. Focus on the things that affect us all. Like jobs, education, health care, protection of our lives from outside forces, feeding OUR hungry. AND LEAVE US ALONE WHEN WE ARE NOT HARMING ANYONE OR INFRINGING ON OTHERS RIGHTS. DAMN!@!!!!!
     
  38. Mar 23, 2007
  39. VayCayMom

    VayCayMom Dormant account

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    who ratted them out?

    Someone squealed, or the gambling agents just drive around all day looking for this stuff. That would be VERY inefficient.
    Don't like big government ? Watch out for AllBore, with the earth in such a heated crisis I suppose he'd like to FINE us if he could regulate and measure our personal flatulence output. Eating bean would be outlawed.
    :p
     

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