Way to go Go Wild

[puppydog07]

Hi Everyone, just an update I was waiting for my first withdrawl at go wild I was asked to wait 24 hours before they would send me the cash out details...well the minute it was up the paperwork was sent i sent in my info and it was approved.

I had my cash in under 48 hours for a first time cash out with a wire transfer>>>THATS FASTTTT..IN MY EXPERIENCES VERY FAST...

WAY TO GO GOWILD KEEP UP THE AWESOME SERVICE

Thanks Puppy

 

[sickdoctor]

:notworthy they truly are extremely fast when it comes to withdrawals to my experiencw

 

[cynthial]

Agreed. Big fan here too.

 

[puppydog07]

such a nice change for microgaming

Agreed. Big fan here too.

Its nice to see some fresh ideas with an mg, they have all become fairly stereo typed, nice to see great customer support and some bonuses as a usual thing>> keep up the great work..GO wild

 

[lauram]

Im also a huge fan of gowild. After so many deposits you can enter into the fashcash back program. There is less waiting time for reversal and then a few hours later sent to your means of deposit. I have done really well with this casino, and their customer service proves this sue know how to treat a customer.

 

[winbig]

Im also a huge fan of gowild. After so many deposits you can enter into the fashcash back program. There is less waiting time for reversal and then a few hours later sent to your means of deposit. I have done really well with this casino, and their customer service proves this sue know how to treat a customer.

Do they have QT yet?

 

[lauram]

They have many options for depositing. I think their flash casino has a few more then the casino itself. They have neteller im not sure what qt is.

 

[missmichelle]

No QT yet but I am hoping they get it soon. I am waiting to make my first deposit.

Michelle

 

[actech]

Huh, standards are going down..... You are happy to been paid after 24hours

Played at gowild, had good play time for my deposits, and after much praise bout them here on forum, was happy when i hit my first withdrawal. Went to live chat to flushit, only to find out about 24 hours pending periodwtf
Of course i reversed and lost...

My hope was that they were at least on par with 32red, so you can flush your winnings and get them in few hours, without that reversal s**t

Think there should be no casino acredited with payouts that last more then 24 hours. And standard payouts should be within 1 hour to ewallets.

 

[KasinoKing]

Do they have QT yet?

No QT yet but I am hoping they get it soon. I am waiting to make my first deposit.

Michelle

... I'm more than a little bit confused!

You both have USA locations, and Go Wild is a MicroGaming casino... so why the interest?
Miss Michelle; you're going to have to wait a VERY long time...!

KK

 

[winbig]

... I'm more than a little bit confused!

You both have USA locations, and Go Wild is a MicroGaming casino... so why the interest?
Miss Michelle; you're going to have to wait a VERY long time...!

KK

KK: GW opened a couple months before MGS stopped allowing new USA registrations..there were a bunch of players (including the USA posters in this thread) that signed up right when they opened. The $30 ND sign-up bonus helped things along.

 

[winbig]

Huh, standards are going down..... You are happy to been paid after 24hours

Played at gowild, had good play time for my deposits, and after much praise bout them here on forum, was happy when i hit my first withdrawal. Went to live chat to flushit, only to find out about 24 hours pending periodwtf
Of course i reversed and lost...

My hope was that they were at least on par with 32red, so you can flush your winnings and get them in few hours, without that reversal s**t

Think there should be no casino acredited with payouts that last more then 24 hours. And standard payouts should be within 1 hour to ewallets.

re-read the OP. Under 48 hours for a first withdrawal via wire transfer for a USA player = awesome. The 2nd WD will go faster, IMO..

And in regards to flushing a WD, just jump on live chat and they will flush it for you. They did for me when I had my 1st WD...

Also, we're talking about 48 hours from the time of the WD request until they had it in their bank, not when the casino sent it. There's quite a difference in the two..

 

[lauram]

Huh, standards are going down..... You are happy to been paid after 24hours

Played at gowild, had good play time for my deposits, and after much praise bout them here on forum, was happy when i hit my first withdrawal. Went to live chat to flushit, only to find out about 24 hours pending periodwtf
Of course i reversed and lost...

My hope was that they were at least on par with 32red, so you can flush your winnings and get them in few hours, without that reversal s**t

Think there should be no casino acredited with payouts that last more then 24 hours. And standard payouts should be within 1 hour to ewallets.

And your not happy with this timing of payment? Heck royal joker has taken 4 days and counting to pay me. Bellrock on weekends take 72 hours. With gowild your first payment is a little longer. Then after a few deposits you can ask to join fast cash program. Now yesterday i put in for a withdrawal at 4 pm, my funds are in my instadebit 8 am today. This is much faster then a lot of the mg casinos out there. 32 red is within a few hours also but they have limited means of depositing.

 

[silkprint]

I am perfectly happy with a 4 to 5 day time frame for payment although sooner is always nicer .
I am hearing such good things about Gowild . I made a deposit last week and didn't win but maybe next time . Good luck everyone

 

[GrandMaster]

Gowild cold called me and would not tell me where they got my number from. I shall not be playing there.

 

[lauram]

Gowild cold called me and would not tell me where they got my number from. I shall not be playing there.

I would of played along on the phone line with them sweet talking and so on edging my way into finding out how they got the number. I did that with one other casino I let believe i was taking their offer, but not till I thanked the persons involved for sharing this casino with me. They finally did tell me and then surprise surprise I closed off my accounts shut down c2p and never looked back. If this is what gowild did I would love to know also how they got your info.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

Hi there everyone,

Please help me understand your situation because I believe you are making a mountain of a mouse

Didn't you provide your phone number on registration? and if you didnt, what is the problem to get a person's phone number when needed?
unless if its confidential you have tones of services like yellow pages etc.

You should praise GoWild Casino for keeping everything safe and secure along with fast - we spend days and nights to make the unbelievable come true for you!

GoWild is a fair, honest and lawful casino.

The best of luck to all of you

Floyd W.
GoWild Gaming

 

[chuchu59]

Floyd,

The post you made is unbelievable. The concerns esp the one from Grandmaster are genuine. When I register my details at a casino or any site for that matter, they are obliged to keep the info under double wraps. This is their duty. No praises, I am sorry.

May I remind you that just because things are turning for the better it does not necessarily mean that you should over-pride yourself on the achievements made otherwise you could just come back down to earth with a bang. It that happens you may have to quadruple your efforts to convince players that you are a good casino.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

Hi Chuchu59

No argue about that,

Please dont take me the wrong way,

Of course your Information is confidential, the question is: does a casino have a duty to use the information provided to it by the player in order contact him in time of need?

I understand the posts above and was not implying anything on them - I thought it is important to show the other point of view


Yours,

Floyd W.
GoWild Gaming

 

[same_old]

Sorry to derail,

Hi Floyd, I signed up last week and got the new sign up bonus and met the wager requirements, I had two days of fun, everything was a above board and great service to say the least, massive pat on the back to you and your staff.

Thanks for a good time.

will be playing again this week,

Same_old

 

[The Dude]

Hi Chuchu59

No argue about that,

Please dont take me the wrong way,

Of course your Information is confidential, the question is: does a casino have a duty to use the information provided to it by the player in order contact him in time of need?

I understand the posts above and was not implying anything on them - I thought it is important to show the other point of view


Yours,

Floyd W.
GoWild Gaming

I think that casinos need to have explicit permission from the players to call them. Some players don't mind - but many do - especially those whose significant others may not approve of their online activities

This should be something never taken for granted. If you don't ask - don't do it.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

I think that casinos need to have explicit permission from the players to call them. Some players don't mind - but many do - especially those whose significant others may not approve of their online activities

This should be something never taken for granted. If you don't ask - don't do it.

We both agree on that one,

I sent GrandMaster a PM so I could check the case as none of us knows exactly what happened.

 

[cynthial]

I was under the impression that Grandmaster was NOT a member of Go Wild and thus was astonished at them having his phone number. I may have read this all wrong.

 

[GrandMaster]

You are exactly right.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

I received an Email from Grandmaster which says that he don't have an account at GoWild, We are checking how could it be as we don't have any record for these claims.

 

[RobWin]

I was under the impression that Grandmaster was NOT a member of Go Wild and thus was astonished at them having his phone number. I may have read this all wrong.

You are exactly right.

I received an Email from Grandmaster which says that he don't have an account at GoWild, We are checking how could it be as we don't have any record for these claims.

Opps, looks like someone may have bought a list.

____
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[vinylweatherman]

The call may have come from a marketing company, the same ones perhaps that send out the CDs by snail mail to our postal addresses.

There IS a problem in cold calling a player, and in the UK this is the 2003 telecommunications act. If a UK resident has registered their phone number with the Telephone Preference Service, the UK version of the "do not call" list, then businesses may ONLY call if they have a "first party" relationship with the recipient. So called "cold calls" or "third party" marketing calls, are NOT permitted. Foreign companies outside the EU are not breaking the LETTER of this law, since it would not be applicable, but are demonstrating they are prepared to breach the overall SPIRIT of this kind of legislation.

Casinos do not like players sniffing out loopholes in the terms and conditions, so casinos themselves should NOT seek to sneak past the "do not call" regulations in order to win new customers.

Go Wild could gain a significant number of new players by working towards CM Accreditation.

Any rep that represents Go Wild needs to have a "thick skin". Running away from a "train wreck" only does harm to the casino, sticking around even when the pressure is on generally benefits the casino. Where attacks become "personal", rather than related to the issues, it will not be too long before order is restored. If a post deviates from the rules of forum etiquette, there is the "report post" function to draw it to the attention of one of the moderators.

Floyd, you probably found yourself in a bit of trouble over your postings because of the fact that you didn't stick around when the going got tough before, and before this, some found your answers to questions similarly "unbelievable". Looks like you got the wrong end of the stick, and assumed that Grandmaster HAD a Go Wild account, but had NOT given the casino his phone number upon registration, so you looked it up using a directory service. This too is unwise, since players probably leave out their phone number BECAUSE they do NOT want the casino to call, maybe because they keep their hobby a "secret" from other members of the household.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

The call may have come from a marketing company, the same ones perhaps that send out the CDs by snail mail to our postal addresses.

There IS a problem in cold calling a player, and in the UK this is the 2003 telecommunications act. If a UK resident has registered their phone number with the Telephone Preference Service, the UK version of the "do not call" list, then businesses may ONLY call if they have a "first party" relationship with the recipient. So called "cold calls" or "third party" marketing calls, are NOT permitted. Foreign companies outside the EU are not breaking the LETTER of this law, since it would not be applicable, but are demonstrating they are prepared to breach the overall SPIRIT of this kind of legislation.

Casinos do not like players sniffing out loopholes in the terms and conditions, so casinos themselves should NOT seek to sneak past the "do not call" regulations in order to win new customers.

Go Wild could gain a significant number of new players by working towards CM Accreditation.

Any rep that represents Go Wild needs to have a "thick skin". Running away from a "train wreck" only does harm to the casino, sticking around even when the pressure is on generally benefits the casino. Where attacks become "personal", rather than related to the issues, it will not be too long before order is restored. If a post deviates from the rules of forum etiquette, there is the "report post" function to draw it to the attention of one of the moderators.

Floyd, you probably found yourself in a bit of trouble over your postings because of the fact that you didn't stick around when the going got tough before, and before this, some found your answers to questions similarly "unbelievable". Looks like you got the wrong end of the stick, and assumed that Grandmaster HAD a Go Wild account, but had NOT given the casino his phone number upon registration, so you looked it up using a directory service. This too is unwise, since players probably leave out their phone number BECAUSE they do NOT want the casino to call, maybe because they keep their hobby a "secret" from other members of the household.

Yes I think that you explained this matter in the right way, I was surprised because we do try not to call our players over the phone unless if they ask us or permitted us to do so but now after I spoke to the person who wrote the post I understand that he is not a GoWild Member and probably was called by an affiliate.

I am always around the forum, though I prefer to respond in a more private manner by using PM, I believe that my responses breaks the balance of the threads - i read them all though

 

[vinylweatherman]

Yes I think that you explained this matter in the right way, I was surprised because we do try not to call our players over the phone unless if they ask us or permitted us to do so but now after I spoke to the person who wrote the post I understand that he is not a GoWild Member and probably was called by an affiliate.

I am always around the forum, though I prefer to respond in a more private manner by using PM, I believe the my responses break the balance of the threads - i read them all though

A few public contributions would help though, it proves you are around.
If a player publically posts an issue with Go Wild, you could still PM them rather than post a public reply, however, you should try to contribute when general points about Go Wild are being discussed. You will be seen to be active, and this in turn encourages members to try the PM route, since it would be obvious that you were still around.

When you "clammed up" before, many members thought you had completely quit the forum. Worse still, when it could be seen that you were logged in to the forum, but that you were seemingly ignoring the issues, it came across as though you didn't care about player problems, which might have discouraged players from using PM, but encouraged them to vent in public instead.

Most of the current Go Wild threads are ones of praise, even this one started that way.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

I will use this advise, Thank you.

 

[Kenny Lingus]

I will use this advise, Thank you.

oooooooooooooh, Andy!

 

[Dominka]

I hope I'll be able to say something like that soon, as well.

I deposited during the big hype over GoWild. I also went in with more than what everyone else's been depositing (I trust Microgaming).
What followed is what everyone here already knows, they changed the terms, then changed them again and again... until it literally left my money trapped in there.

It is very dissatisfying to have that happen. I even ended up playing slots (which I hate), but it was like throwing money down the drain. Like, 1 eur a spin, whoa, that's 100 eur down ALREADY? That got old real fast for me. So now I've been simply autoplaying my way out and I do want out of there simply for being left feeling trapped there. I do it now and again, and I'm almost done.

I know the moment wasn't right during the shenanigans, but at least after things got a little more reasonable the original terms REALLY MUST be enforced, there should be no way for a legit casino to change the terms from what I agree to into something else. It makes no difference to me at this moment, but it is something to keep in mind for the future.
Anyway, I will keep you guys posted on how it ends, maybe in a couple of weeks or so assuming I don't hit the seaside in the meantine.

D

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Excellent post - hopefully the powers that be are reading this

 

[chuchu59]

I hope I'll be able to say something like that soon, as well.

I deposited during the big hype over GoWild. I also went in with more than what everyone else's been depositing (I trust Microgaming).
What followed is what everyone here already knows, they changed the terms, then changed them again and again... until it literally left my money trapped in there.

It is very dissatisfying to have that happen. I even ended up playing slots (which I hate), but it was like throwing money down the drain. Like, 1 eur a spin, whoa, that's 100 eur down ALREADY? That got old real fast for me. So now I've been simply autoplaying my way out and I do want out of there simply for being left feeling trapped there. I do it now and again, and I'm almost done.

I know the moment wasn't right during the shenanigans, but at least after things got a little more reasonable the original terms REALLY MUST be enforced, there should be no way for a legit casino to change the terms from what I agree to into something else. It makes no difference to me at this moment, but it is something to keep in mind for the future.
Anyway, I will keep you guys posted on how it ends, maybe in a couple of weeks or so assuming I don't hit the seaside in the meantine.

D

Dominka,

I am sorry I may have missed this but what terms did they change and were they imposed on you retroactively.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

I hope I'll be able to say something like that soon, as well.

I deposited during the big hype over GoWild. I also went in with more than what everyone else's been depositing (I trust Microgaming).
What followed is what everyone here already knows, they changed the terms, then changed them again and again... until it literally left my money trapped in there.

It is very dissatisfying to have that happen. I even ended up playing slots (which I hate), but it was like throwing money down the drain. Like, 1 eur a spin, whoa, that's 100 eur down ALREADY? That got old real fast for me. So now I've been simply autoplaying my way out and I do want out of there simply for being left feeling trapped there. I do it now and again, and I'm almost done.

I know the moment wasn't right during the shenanigans, but at least after things got a little more reasonable the original terms REALLY MUST be enforced, there should be no way for a legit casino to change the terms from what I agree to into something else. It makes no difference to me at this moment, but it is something to keep in mind for the future.
Anyway, I will keep you guys posted on how it ends, maybe in a couple of weeks or so assuming I don't hit the seaside in the meantine.

D

I think that these matters should be addressed to me by PM, Please send me your account number and I will see what is the case - its not the fairest thing to say when I cannot know the exact details

Also it is not true that we changed the terms - we updated the games contribution percentage (and gave players who deposited before the change enough time to finish their play by the old contribution) which is totally normal for a new casino and we did that last year, over 6 month ago - another thing is that you can play almost any game - BJ, Roulette, keno, All slots and most table games.

Pm me and I will check everything for you

 

[chuchu59]

The only terms that I noticed that were changed are the ones on claiming of bonuses where one must contact live chat before commencing play to obtain the bonuses and free spins and not the other way round where bonuses were given automatically. Fair play IMO.

 

[Floyd GoWild]

The only terms that I noticed that were changed are the ones on claiming of bonuses where one must contact live chat before commencing play to obtain the bonuses and free spins and not the other way round where bonuses were given automatically. Fair play IMO.

Yes, this change came in as a request from a lot of players who like to play without bonuses - we do try to contact our players when making a deposit to ask if maybe they forgot to claim the bonus, also our players can ask us to mention in their account that they would like to receive all bonuses automatically.

 

[Deeplay]

Yes, this change came in as a request from a lot of players who like to play without bonuses - we do try to contact our players when making a deposit to ask if maybe they forgot to claim the bonus, also our players can ask us to mention in their account that they would like to receive all bonuses automatically.

Hi Floyd off the topic but does Gwild still have withdraw limits on cash outs ?

thanks

 

[Rambeno]

Go Wild bonus messup

I deposited for the first time today at Go Wild, and mainly because you all had said great things about them. Now, nothing exceptionally bad happened there, and I will say the customer service rep, Emma, was as kind and pleasant as you could ask for, but there was a really big bonus messup, in my humble opinion.

I spoke at length with Emma on the deposit bonuses available to me. But she assured me she would give me the best bonus for me to me. Well she gave me a 100% deposit bonus. Then I get this email:

Hello john,

The summertime is finally here and we bring you a Sizzling Hot bonus for your first deposit at GoWild Casino.

Get a spectacular 300% Welcome Bonus up to 75 credits immediately after your first deposit. All you have to do is make your first deposit as low as 25 and you will be playing with 100 straight away!

So, she kind of missed the proverbial boat on giving me the best one for me. I think the best one for me would have been the 300% bonus. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. Instead of getting $70 to play with (35 with 100% bonus), I would have been able to play with $110 ($35 deposit and $75 bonus). Quite a sizable difference.

I wrote them about it and was polite, merely stating the above. And the money I had went fast...I played about 45 minutes on $70, playing slots at 45cents and video poker at 75 cents a hand, so it wasn't like I was placing big bets. So, yeah, the money didn't ever get above the deposit and bonus.

So my first time there was not very positive. I wrote a little over an hour ago, and still waiting for a response. I know its not unusual to wait 2-4 hours sometimes at casinos. I still have to say, however mistaken about my bonus Emma was, she was still one of the most courteous I've ever spoken with at an online casino in a long time.

Perhaps they'll correct it for me. Other than that, I think I'll make the bonus decision from here on out.

Rambeno

 

[Floyd GoWild]

I deposited for the first time today at Go Wild, and mainly because you all had said great things about them. Now, nothing exceptionally bad happened there, and I will say the customer service rep, Emma, was as kind and pleasant as you could ask for, but there was a really big bonus messup, in my humble opinion.

I spoke at length with Emma on the deposit bonuses available to me. But she assured me she would give me the best bonus for me to me. Well she gave me a 100% deposit bonus. Then I get this email:



So, she kind of missed the proverbial boat on giving me the best one for me. I think the best one for me would have been the 300% bonus. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it. Instead of getting $70 to play with (35 with 100% bonus), I would have been able to play with $110 ($35 deposit and $75 bonus). Quite a sizable difference.

I wrote them about it and was polite, merely stating the above. And the money I had went fast...I played about 45 minutes on $70, playing slots at 45cents and video poker at 75 cents a hand, so it wasn't like I was placing big bets. So, yeah, the money didn't ever get above the deposit and bonus.

So my first time there was not very positive. I wrote a little over an hour ago, and still waiting for a response. I know its not unusual to wait 2-4 hours sometimes at casinos. I still have to say, however mistaken about my bonus Emma was, she was still one of the most courteous I've ever spoken with at an online casino in a long time.

Perhaps they'll correct it for me. Other than that, I think I'll make the bonus decision from here on out.

Rambeno

Hi Rambeno,

These personal matters should be handles by PM, please send me your Details and i will check everything for you

 

[Floyd GoWild]

Hi Floyd off the topic but does Gwild still have withdraw limits on cash outs ?

thanks

Hi doomed4ever,

Well that depends -

progressive wins are not limited unless if the player's payment method has transaction limits which force us to split it.
New players have a limit of 5000 at the time - We try to be flexible, depends on player's loyalty points,wagering, time playing with us, etc
Players who are members of the VIP Club are a different story, they have much higher withdrawal limits.
In cases of big wins we are very flexible and there wasn't a winner of a big amount who wasn't fully satisfied with the payment settlement we offered him.

 

[Rambeno]

thank you Floyd

I thank you kindly Floyd for responding to my post. I have forwarded my details to you in a PM.

Rambeno

 

[Deeplay]

Hi doomed4ever,

Well that depends -

progressive wins are not limited unless if the player's payment method has transaction limits which force us to split it.
New players have a limit of 5000 at the time - We try to be flexible, depends on player's loyalty points,wagering, time playing with us, etc
Players who are members of the VIP Club are a different story, they have much higher withdrawal limits.
In cases of big wins we are very flexible and there wasn't a winner of a big amount who wasn't fully satisfied with the payment settlement we offered him.

Hi Floyd thanks for the reply. Just wondering though all the other MGS I play at have no withdraw limits I checked your Terms and it states for new players its 5000 per month max withdraw. Just never seen a MG casino with any kind of with draw limits regardless if your a new player or not.

 

[Tengil]

Hi Floyd thanks for the reply. Just wondering though all the other MGS I play at have no withdraw limits I checked your Terms and it states for new players its 5000 per month max withdraw. Just never seen a MG casino with any kind of with draw limits regardless if your a new player or not.

Well at least Casino Rewards limits the withdrawals for new players. Dont know what they hold as a new player. But then again its Casino Rewards, the worst MG group IMO.

From Golden Reefs T&Cs
Players who win a sum that is 5 times, or more, greater than their total purchases across all CasinoRewards partner casinos will only be able to withdraw their winnings at a sum of $4,000 a week.

 

[Dominka]

Dominka,

I am sorry I may have missed this but what terms did they change and were they imposed on you retroactively.

It's been a long time ago. I'll try to keep it on point with the things that stood out in my experience.

I decided to try them out with several hundred euros, high three figure sum, a bit after everyone else (and, judging by the forum traffic here, their dog ) did. I had a chat, and picked up their welcome offer. I did a quick calculation on the wagering, it was - for non slots - around 65k IIRC at that time. That just about matches my stakes when I try to relax.

So I start playing, and days later, after a lot of playing, like 50k or so, I notice that my screen shows that I cleared out only 120 or 130 eur worth of bonus (out of 600), with 470 remaining to clear. The terms have changed in the meantime. And the new rollovers (percentages) for most non slots games blew up my remaining rollover (only the remaining part!) to something over 220k I was at that point, according to live chat, 13k away from completing them according to the terms that were active during registration. And new contributions - not the old ones - were being applied to my account.

I never bothered with complaining much about it, though. That's when I asked around here, which slots would people recommend for me to complete it (and gotten a couple of recommendations, and had absolutely horrible luck while trying them out!). I also asked them on the chat, can I just forfeit the 470 eur remaining bonus and withdraw, however it was not possible.

That's the gist of the story, and that's when I figured, well, I'd like out, it was no longer playing as much as clearing, and in the meantime (it was all a long time ago now) I eventually cleared almost all of it.

I think that these matters should be addressed to me by PM, Please send me your account number and I will see what is the case - its not the fairest thing to say when I cannot know the exact details

Also it is not true that we changed the terms - we updated the games contribution percentage (and gave players who deposited before the change enough time to finish their play by the old contribution) which is totally normal for a new casino and we did that last year, over 6 month ago - another thing is that you can play almost any game - BJ, Roulette, keno, All slots and most table games.

Pm me and I will check everything for you

Thank you for the offer, Floyd.
I was confused about what to do at first, then I've simply adapted to the new rules since I did notice at the time that GoWild just needed some time to stand on its feet. Which, as I expected, it did. I am nearly done with all rollovers so it's okay. But thanks anyway. Comments like these are appreciated. :notworthy


D

 

[felicie]

My problem with Go Wild? I can't get out of the live chat!! We talk and talk and then I forget why I am there. I love that place. Sometimes its hard not to just go there and say hey(but I don't want to look that pathetic) Oh and the games are good too. WTG Go Wild