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Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by WagerWitch, Oct 13, 2006.

    Oct 13, 2006
  1. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

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    I'm so angry I could spit...

    Bush to sign security, Internet bill

    By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON -
    President Bush gets a chance to promote fellow Republicans as America's tough-on-terror protectors with a bill passed by the GOP-controlled Congress that aims to enhance port security and close a loophole in anti-terror defenses.
    Quoted straight off the Yahoo Page:

    Bush also was set to sign into law an unrelated provision the bill contains that seeks to put teeth into laws that forbid most online gambling.

    But the president was not planning to mention the Internet gaming provision during Friday's White House signing ceremony, which was expected to draw lawmakers from both parties.



    Instead, Bush's remarks were to focus on the multiple ways the legislation could reduce the likelihood that terrorists could sneak a nuclear, chemical or biological weapons device into the country in one of the 11 million shipping containers that enter the country each year, many without any inspection.

    Congress approved the bill two weeks ago, one of its last acts before lawmakers left to campaign for the Nov. 7 midterm elections in which national security, the war in
    Iraq and terrorism are expected to be major factors.

    The administration has spent about $10 billion to enhance security at the nation's ports since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. About 65 percent of cargo, that considered most high-risk, is screened for nuclear or radiological materials. The
    Homeland Security Department aims to increase that number to 80 percent by the end of the year and to almost 100 percent by the end of 2007.

    The issue became a particular priority for Congress after a fight in February over a buyout that put a Dubai company in control of some operations at six U.S. ports. The outcry led the Dubai company, DP World, to promise it would sell the U.S. operations to an American company. The sale is pending.

    Democrats favored the bill, but said it failed to address rail and mass transit, other areas considered highly vulnerable to terrorist attack. The bill was approved on a 409-2 vote in the House, and by a voice vote in the Senate.

    The legislation approves $400 million a year over five years for risk-based grants for training and exercises at ports. It requires the nation's 22 largest ports, which handle 98 percent of all cargo entering the country, to install radiation detectors by the end of next year.

    Pilot programs would be established at three foreign ports to test technology for nonintrusive cargo inspections. Currently only one foreign port, Hong Kong, scans all U.S.-bound cargo for nuclear materials.

    Background checks and credentials will be required for workers at the nation's 361 ports, and the Homeland Security Department would set up protocols for resuming operations after an attack or incident. It is feared that a terrorist attack, such as a nuclear device set off by remote control, could cripple the entire economy as well as cause massive casualties.

    Preferential cargo processing is offered to importers who meet certain security requirements.

    The Internet gambling provision tackles the difficult task of enforcing bans by prohibiting players from using credit cards, checks and electronic fund transfers to settle their online wagers.

    The measure's supporters include the National Football League as well as conservative and antigambling groups. Some banking groups have lobbied against it.

    Federal officials have made recent arrests involving offshore companies operating Internet gambling sites. The Internet gambling industry is headquartered almost entirely outside the United States, although many of its customers live in the U.S.

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    The text of the bill, H.R. 4954, may be found at You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  2. Oct 13, 2006
  3. WagerWitch

    WagerWitch Dormant account webmeister

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    As I said - How much do you think he paid for "FOLEY-GATE" ???

    Hmmm...

    How much do you think he threatened the media.


    NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT AMERICA TO KNOW.

    Sigh - urggle - I can't believe this.
     
  4. Oct 13, 2006
  5. Auditor

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    Your right, they don't want the public to realize what they're doing. We did all we could do to get the word out. The casinos could have done something...anything publicly. If just one of them ran an ad campaign to rally the millions of US online players against this bill being signed, it would have made a difference. The president would not be signing this bill today. :mad:









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  6. Oct 14, 2006
  7. sdaddy

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    I was equally disturbed by the press conference held by the Congressional delegation outside the White House after the signing ceremony, shown later on C-SPAN. They were all patting themselves on the back about what a wonderful, bipartisan bill they had worked hard to put together to make America safe. Of course, there was once again NO MENTION of the internet gambling provision that was slipped in at the eleventh hour before passage. As far as I'm concerned, they're just as complicit as Sen. Frist in the sleazy tactics that allowed this bill to pass.
     
  8. Oct 14, 2006
  9. Addisyn

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    President signing...

    I am sorry to say Dubya would be signing this bill no matter who lobbied against it. This adminstration does what it wants. End of story. Checks and balances must be regained and then we would have cause to lobby and actually come out with a good result. :mad:
     
  10. Oct 14, 2006
  11. WagerWitch

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    I did what I could...

    But What I found most AMAZING - is the TIME STAMP on my post - and on the News.

    Bush technically had NOT signed the Bill Yet.

    Ya think I'm nuts - check Casino Meister's time stamp.

    I'm begining to realize that Conspiracy Theorists are probably not as crazy as I used to think they were.

    LMAO!

    Oh well - you guys - I'm so very very sorry this passed.

    I'm so very sorry that no one stood up to the Government.

    We have the power of voting now.

    If only AMERICA KNEW what this party did.

    I have until Nov 8th to keep spreading the word.

    If you want something done - become political. It's our last recourse - unless one of you is a multi-Billionaire who can afford the best political attorneys in the Nation - and this is something you want to fight.

    Many hugs to all -

    Wager Witch
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    Meki
     
  12. Oct 15, 2006
  13. dhayman

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    I agree, Lucky. Our only real recourse here is to pay back those that took away our rights (and business, for some). I've been a life-long Republican, but not this year. Bush has faltered on a lot more than this anti-gambling bill, which hits me home directly. His creation of an unneeded war, and his horrible management of the US budget is totally irresponsible. The lying, cheating, and deception of this party is on an order of magnitude that I cannot recall in my lifetime.

    I'm voting straight ticket Democrat in every imaginable category. It IS TIME FOR A CHANGE, and I think Americans will respond accordingly.

    Meanwhile, now that this bill passed, it will be interesting to see where it goes, despite all the negative and rash maneuvers of many of the online gambling companies. It will take time to undo, but voting in a Democratic Congress is the first step to getting our rights back.
     
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  14. Oct 15, 2006
  15. Mister

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    "oh the pain of it all"...(as Dr. Smith would say)

    Lou Dobbs on the CNN channel will be talking about the WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, this coming Wednesday...I imagine the subject of discussion will be about how the U.S. voting public (or the lack of it) is slowly losing its voice because of the stronger lobbyist groups that get their interests favored (above our right to pursue individual liberties) by our so-called elected politicians.
     
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  16. Oct 16, 2006
  17. footdr

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    BUSH TOLD FRIST/REPUBLICANS HE WANTED THEM TO ADD THE GAMBLING ACT

    I am sorry to say that I failed to put the site in my favorites so I can not provide the link. I have been reading all I can find about how the gambling legislation was added but I believe it was a Washington Post article that stated the "Bush advised House republicans(doesn't mention who but I suspect KYL or Frist ) at the last hour that he wanted the Internet Gambling legislation added to the Safe Port Act.

    I can believe this because #1. that might be the reason he did not draw attention to it when he signed the safe port act. In case there was alot of heat about it he could claim he had no choice but to sign the important legislation.
    #2. White house press conference on the 13th . Press secretary asked what their comments were on Internet Gambling provision. Response: WE ARE FOR IT or something to that effect. END OF DISCUSSION. No other reporters asked questions regarding it

    #3. with the Presidents involvement/direction it more than likely was easier to circumvent procedure, avoiding the commitee on rules
     
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  18. Oct 16, 2006
  19. jetset

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    Footdr is right - the story appeared in the Financial Times and is mentioned in this week's Casinomeister News:

    DID THE WHITE HOUSE INTERVENE IN ONLINE GAMBLING BILL?

    Powerful persuasion on the eve of the vote...

    If a story appearing this week in the Financial Times is accurate, the presidential signing into law of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act was a slam-dunk.

    The respected publication carried a story quoting unidentified lobbyists who summarised the events leading up to the presentation of the Goodlatte Bill, including the exploitation of the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal as a spur to get politicians to sign up for the anti-online gambling measure.

    It covers the House approval of the combined Goodlatte and Leach bills and how this stalled in the Senate before being picked up and pushed by Senators Kyl and Frist, ultimately leading to the attachment of the compromise measure to the must-pass port security bill and the early morning approval of both.

    The article also carries the startling news that the attachment to the port security bill was encouraged by the White House, according to two lobbyists who told the Financial Times that this was an important element in the whole process.

    The FT reports: "One day before Saturday's vote on the legislation, two lobbyists who followed the bill alleged the last-minute intervention of the White House, which encouraged Republican senators to support the legislation, gave the bill the momentum it needed to be attached to the port security bill and passed by the Senate.

    "Both lobbyists contend the White House sought passage of the bill following the release of a bipartisan congressional report that documented contacts between the White House and Mr Abramoff and his partners, including contacts between the lobbyist and Karl Rove, chief political strategist for George W. Bush, president."

    All of which suggests that, if this report is true the presidential signing was a mere formality.
     
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  20. Oct 16, 2006
  21. Auditor

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    Makes me sick.:(

    President Bush signed the You must register/login in order to see the link., which included a rider which banned online gaming in the US. But the real issue, which is how the corrupt politicians in our country are slowly taking our personal freedoms away from us (And by the way, internet poker has nothing to do with Port Security).

    The new Unlawful Internet Gambling Act is equally corrupt, and even more dangerous. First, this bill was originally introduced by State Representative Bob Goodlatte of Virginia. His bill proposed to ban all online gambling... except for online state lotteries and online horse racing. Why the carve outs? Well obviously lotteries are taxed, but the horse racing probably has more to do You must register/login in order to see the link..

    Then, this bill was attached secretly to the Port Security Act on September 30th at 1am local Washington DC time. Senator Bill Frist, consideredYou must register/login in order to see the link., attached the gambling ban to "must pass" legislation, without debate, and without many Senators even present. Why would he do such a thing? It may have something to do with You must register/login in order to see the link. he received... oh wait, he received another one You must register/login in order to see the link. So it's ok to take cash from the land based casinos... but he needs to ban the online casinos. Gotcha.

    Now before anyone here starts screaming about terrorism, underage gambling, or money laundering let me set you straight. Many of you may believe the political propaganda you've been fed, but the truth is as follows:

    These companies are as legitimate corporations, not terrorism fronts. Many are publicly traded firms on the London Stock Exchange - Like Party Poker (You must register/login in order to see the link.) ; Casino-on-Net and 888.com (You must register/login in order to see the link.) ; or English Harbour Casino, VIP Sports Betting, or Nine.com sports book (You must register/login in order to see the link.).

    These companies also have provisions in place to prevent underage gambling. They can't take credit cards, and the only methods to fund these accounts (such and international bank transfers and overseas wires) would only be practical for an adult to accomplish. And on an interesting side note, the new Unlawful Internet Gambling Act has no provisions to prevent underage gambling at state sanctioned online horse racing and lotto sites... go figure.

    Money laundering is almost impossible at online casinos, and it would certainly be much more difficult to do so online --- where every transaction leaves a detailed electronic fingerprint --- than at a land based casino. In an interview for You must register/login in order to see the link., legally regulated British bookmakers state that "Real world casinos work with real cash, and many leave cloudy audit trails that are hard to follow. But the online industry says, in the cashless world of net betting, many bettors are tied to an account number, making it hard to hide. The only way of getting your funds to an Internet casino or an Internet bookmaker is to pay the casino by credit card or transfer it by bank transfer."

    The bottom line is this: These crooks in Washington keep trying to legislate morality to us... and they have no business doing so. But theyve gone even farther than that actually criminalize an activity in our homes thats legal in 48 states! There are 30 million online gamblers in the United States, and the politicians continue to take their kickbacks and promote special interests instead of representing the will of the people.

    Bill Frist is a crook. He's You must register/login in order to see the link. by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named You must register/login in order to see the link. in Washington. Given the current state of politics, thats quite an accomplishment.

    Frist was bought and paid for by Harrahs. When he got this bill passed, You must register/login in order to see the link., resulting in a growth in their net worth of $1.7 billion. Not too coincidentally, they were just about to receive a buy-out offer imagine that.

    This law is pure Washington bull anyone can see it. But maybe you still dont think it has anything to do with people who dont gamble online. Well idoes. This bill has provisions in it which will open the door to allow the government to track your online movements and force your internet service providers to censor what you can see on the web. How Orwellian is that? If the government could only get this concerned about online sex predators, identity theft, or kiddy porn but we know they cant get paid-off from any of those things.

    So, why is no one covering this story?


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  22. Oct 16, 2006
  23. Mister

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    Freedom of what ?

    The following is a bit unrelated to our objectives of winning back our freedom to pursue our individual rights but is related in a sense to how much our government is out to get us.....Its an interesting story about how an 8th grade 14 year old girl got to learn first hand of how paranoid our government is about expressing ourselves....Granted she went overboard, but sending out TWO secret service guys out to the girl's house ???...I know what the next movie thats going to come out this fall..."Enemy of the State Gone Wild"...Anyway, read on if just for interest's sake.....Here is the link (true story)...

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  24. Oct 16, 2006
  25. lots0

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    People were getting angry with me for saying the same thing, before Bush signed the Bill. Bush is and was a BIG supporter of this Bill.

    Bush and his buddies Frist, Kyle and Goodlatte all knew the bill would never become law thru the 'normal' channels. So they had to sneak it thru.

    And the Casinos that did nothing... except to run and hide... I hope they get what they deserve... nothing, they are a bunch of damn money grubbing cowards.

    The only thing we can hope for is that once the Dems are in power (November 9th 2006) that all the invesgtations into all the dirty goings on in Washington will force some bright public light on the back alley transactions regarding this gambling bill (I personally think some laws were broken here by these people).

    All I can is, the taking away of peoples rights in the name of someone's elses religious believes had better stop before people start getting real pissed off...
     
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  26. Oct 16, 2006
  27. Forbin001

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    Yea Im no big fan of the Democrats but I think the Republicans will get hammered this election. Thier legislation has been outrageous over the past 5 years....constantly chipping away at our freedoms....an endless war, ugggh.
     
  28. Oct 18, 2006
  29. WagerWitch

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    I'm sorry - But I LOVE you - would you marry me?

    ROFLMAO!

    Sheesh - for once - I've met someone who actually sees the damn Conspiracy and gets it.

    I was feeling like a Conspiracy Theorist who was the only one who was getting this.

    Like I was making too big of a deal about it.

    I am so Glad you folks are understanding ---- or are THINKING for YOURSELVES.

    At first... Even I thought it was no big deal - thought - naw - Bush won't sign it. But the deeper I looked - the more I realized that this is an outright infringement on the rights of the WORLD WIDE WEB - which NO ONE can own.

    It stops free trade - it makes Banks and ISPs WARRANTLESS SEARCH Engines...

    It hits so many wrong points for me...

    And when the media didn't cover it.

    And when the Foley Scandal came out...

    I realized that this is a much bigger deal than just Gambling.

    Has anyone noticed that Foley is hardly mentioned after the 13th.

    This is something the GOVERNMENT wanted hidden.

    Well - before the FBI knocks on my door - LMAO - I'm out there informing Americans as much as I can.

    I'm posting - pestering - and doing what I can.

    Because even though I am a gambler - We are a small community - We were the only ones who noticed this as it was happening - because it said "GAMBLING" on it.

    Which half the world - looks away - from the word Gambling - and ignores it... Unless they are sitting in front of a Slot Machine in Vegas or buying a Lottery ticket at the store - or playing bingo... So they wouldn't investigate it.

    Ah well.

    We'll see what happens.

    I am trying to keep plugging the media - keep pecking at the forums - keep sending individual emails - keep posting to political sites.

    I'm going to keep trying to inform people.

    I don't get hot about a lot of things. I don't have a lot of energy - as some of you know, I'm currently on a chemotherapy like treatment - BUT THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT to me - than most things.

    I get angry about anything that affects Privacy and Constitutional rights.

    And I'm really angry.

    Thank you to everyone who is helping to spread the word.

    Wager Witch
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