Wage requirements for bonus still apply after losing money

[tombee]

Hey,

recently I took a bonus at a casino on my first deposit. After winning some I lost all my money and bonus in a bad luck session. A week or so after that I deposited some money at this casino once again and played for a while. I made some profit and wanted to cash out. However this was denied due to the fact I still had to fulfill the wager for the bonus I received even though I lost all the money on this bonus including deposit. So once again I lost the money because of this stupid wage requirement still to fulfill.

Now my question.. I haven't had this before at about 5-10 other casino's I played earlier. Either I fulfilled the wager without loosing my money in the first place or I lost and the wager was gone when I made my next deposit. So is it normal that wage requirements still apply even after loosing your money?

I want to play at another casino at which I lost my first deposit and bonus. But off course I won't deposit there knowing that once again I still have to fulfill (a large) wage requirement!!

What are your experiences with this?

Tom

 

[steinhaug]

To be honest, this casino just gave you a royal screw-over! Why on earth would you ever want to get back to a deal like that?

If that were me, I would have been pretty pissed even if it stated so in the T&C which I never read anyway since I expect the rules to be fair and straight forward without any mongoloid tactics!

This one - obviously a mongoloid rule - and if it's not then you must be one if you deposit there again!

Thumbs up tombee - and please mention the name of this casino so others may steer clear of that impressive deal they offer!

 

[Fleur-De-Lis]

Do we talk about Intercasino here?

 

[tombee]

Reading my first post again I see it's not exactly clear.. Sorry for that.. I'm ashamed

I wasn't denied the whole pay out, but the BONUS amount. So the first time I lost my money and the bonus amount and second time they wanted to pay out, but minus the amount that I was rewarded as a bonus at the FIRST deposit.

So even though it was a bit greedy from me to play on to get the bonus amount (which isn't really a bonus anymore because I've lost it in the first place) it's still strange that even after losing all my money and bonus in the first place the bonus amount is still deducted from my pay out after my SECOND deposit WITHOUT A BONUS. So that's why I wanted to know if there are similar experiences, I've never had them..

The casino was one I thought to be good, and is good to go according to this site.. BODOG

 

[KasinoKing]

So even though it was a bit greedy from me to play on to get the bonus amount (which isn't really a bonus anymore because I've lost it in the first place) it's still strange that even after losing all my money and bonus in the first place the bonus amount is still deducted from my pay out after my SECOND deposit WITHOUT A BONUS. So that's why I wanted to know if there are similar experiences, I've never had them..

Not many casinos have this rule, but some do, as you found out.

Everyone should remember the First Golden Rule for playing online casinos:-
Always, but ALWAYS read the T&C's before you deposit!

Whether anyone thinks their rules are fair or not is totally irrelevant - casinos can (and do) have any rules they want.
To deposit & play without reading the T&C's is just another gamble on top of playing the games.
If you don't read the T&C's first, don't go moaning about them afterwards!

KK

 

[winbig]

Reading my first post again I see it's not exactly clear.. Sorry for that.. I'm ashamed

I wasn't denied the whole pay out, but the BONUS amount. So the first time I lost my money and the bonus amount and second time they wanted to pay out, but minus the amount that I was rewarded as a bonus at the FIRST deposit.

So even though it was a bit greedy from me to play on to get the bonus amount (which isn't really a bonus anymore because I've lost it in the first place) it's still strange that even after losing all my money and bonus in the first place the bonus amount is still deducted from my pay out after my SECOND deposit WITHOUT A BONUS. So that's why I wanted to know if there are similar experiences, I've never had them..

The casino was one I thought to be good, and is good to go according to this site.. BODOG

Bodog is offering reload bonuses? When did they start that...??

I've only gotten their 10% 'cash-back' bonus (no WR, can even transfer it to the poker room) after I've withdrawn or went broke. I haven't played there in many many months, so....

 

[RobWin]

Could you imagine going into a land based casino and before you play there you have to read T & C's and Rules and Cashout and Deposit Rules and then further read Bonus Coupon Rules and Playthru Requirements and Holdover Rules regarding Unfinished Bonus Playthru Requirements and on and on and on...hell they would go broke, all the customers would leave, hell half of them can't read anyways and the ones than can, don't or won't take the time to !!

 

[Jasminebed]

Do we talk about Intercasino here?

Tom, if it is indeed Intercasino, you wager requirement drops off after three months.

After my first deposit, I e-mailed them declining there next bonus offer, because I had an outstanding wager requirement from my first deposit. They cancelled it.

When I had a second deposit without success, I just waited out the three months until that wagering requirement was removed.

Now personally, if I was running a casino, i would not DISCOURAGE players from depositing regularly,but as KK said, read their terms and conditions.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Could you imagine going into a land based casino and before you play there you have to read T & C's and Rules and Cashout and Deposit Rules and then further read Bonus Coupon Rules and Playthru Requirements and Holdover Rules regarding Unfinished Bonus Playthru Requirements and on and on and on...hell they would go broke, all the customers would leave, hell half of them can't read anyways and the ones than can, don't or won't take the time to !!

I think they already are....not joking!!

 

[GrandMaster]

Do we talk about Intercasino here?

I know from painful personal experience that if you lose your deposit and bonus, the WR does not carry forward.

Could you imagine going into a land based casino and before you play there you have to read T & C's and Rules and Cashout and Deposit Rules and then further read Bonus Coupon Rules and Playthru Requirements and Holdover Rules regarding Unfinished Bonus Playthru Requirements and on and on and on...hell they would go broke, all the customers would leave, hell half of them can't read anyways and the ones than can, don't or won't take the time to !!

Imagine going to a land based casino in your underwear.

 

[chuchu59]

Bodog is RTG-powered so in the cashier there should be a counter showing the unfinished wagering requirements. What did it show before your 2nd deposit, tombee?

 

[KasinoKing]

(Re: Intercasino) I know from painful personal experience that if you lose your deposit and bonus, the WR does not carry forward.

That did used to be the case ages ago, but for a very long time (at least a year) the WR have carried over.

From Intercasino's T&C's today:-

8. Please note that if the wager requirement is not fulfilled within the month the said bonus is issued, any outstanding wager requirement will continue until the wager requirement is met - even if additional bonuses are issued.

And I know from personal experience that the WR does carry over.

KK

 

[steinhaug]

To deposit & play without reading the T&C's is just another gamble on top of playing the games.
If you don't read the T&C's first, don't go moaning about them afterwards!

KK

Hmm... So... If the local jackass at the pub smacks you if you ask him to move away from the door, does so, you are not allowed to complain since you should have known this by asking him in advance?

Maby bot the best comparison, but just because they are sleezy bastards doesn't mean I lose my right to complain! Sorry!

Such T&C should NOT exist, and by complaining - since obviously you all agree they are sleezy - we might get rid of the punks!

By the way KK, enjoy your vacation! I could need some cheap beers now! Say hello to the girls from me,

 

[tombee]

Not many casinos have this rule, but some do, as you found out.

Everyone should remember the First Golden Rule for playing online casinos:-
Always, but ALWAYS read the T&C's before you deposit!

Whether anyone thinks their rules are fair or not is totally irrelevant - casinos can (and do) have any rules they want.
To deposit & play without reading the T&C's is just another gamble on top of playing the games.
If you don't read the T&C's first, don't go moaning about them afterwards!

KK

I do always read them, but chances are I do this to fast to notice things like this (only looking good at wage requirements, bonus play or converted in to real, and things like that)

Bodog is RTG-powered so in the cashier there should be a counter showing the unfinished wagering requirements. What did it show before your 2nd deposit, tombee?

Looked for that but did not find it. After e-mailing them I only got the whole wage requirement from them and not the current status/ amount.

 

[GrandMaster]

That did used to be the case ages ago, but for a very long time (at least a year) the WR have carried over.

From Intercasino's T&C's today:-


And I know from personal experience that the WR does carry over.

No, it does not. This month, I managed to lose my deposit and bonus due to 3 card poker sucking more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner and there is no WR on my account, even though I satisfied less than half of the WR on the monthly bonus.

 

[Stovetopp]

I beg to differ here...I played at BODOG for 5 yuears and I personally think they were the fairest casino around...They even give you cash in your account after a disastrous session(You will see it the next morning) I have received several payments from them too and the service people are the most cooperative

Well, you may be wondering why I don't play there anymore.....The federal government pretended to be players, got money snt to them and retraced the origin...Now if you want pay you have to wait about 40 days the last time I checked..I think the former owner Calvin Ayres pissed off Uncle Sam with his arrogance I think They also have a sports book and KasinoKing , I think you are wrong about showing playthrough There is no "box" there showing that maybe because I never used bonus

 

[babs7262]

So your saying that you played at Bodog, got a bonus with your deposit. You played..lost your deposit and bonus....ok..balance zero right?

THen a week or so later you go to Bodog and make a deposit without taking any bonus and just play with your money. You make a profit, cashout and they tell you that you still havnt met the WR from last weeks play time?

Thats BS...I dont care what anyone says. If thats the case why not just deposit before you meet your WR to get it over with? Stupid rule and if you ask me I would never play there. I use to play there over a year ago. last time I played was June 2007 , it took 3 months to get paid and I closed my account and never looked back.

 

[LaurieJim]

thats just plain crazy, i couldnt play with those sort of w/r rules.................

 

[tombee]

Was kinda surprised myself too

@Stovetopp:

I was actually (besides this problem) quite satisfied with bodog. However things went bad after a while, although that could still be bad luck of course. Never got the cash after a bad session anyway

 

[NewOrleans]

ya...

i still have 2 bonuses assigned to my account and i zeroed out about 5 months ago...this is at intercasino I notice the bonus remains in the account even after you deposit again,i figure i need to contact customer service to have these removed,and I didn't know this could effect my withdrawals and the bonus is for a poker bonus,not sure if its for interpoker either so it is a bit confusion hehe.

 

[KasinoKing]

(Re: Intercasino) No, it does not. This month, I managed to lose my deposit and bonus due to 3 card poker sucking more than a Dyson vacuum cleaner and there is no WR on my account, even though I satisfied less than half of the WR on the monthly bonus.

Well if that's the case Intercasino ane not sticking to their own T&C's - maybe the Casinomeister will see that as grounds for rogue status...?

i still have 2 bonuses assigned to my account and i zeroed out about 5 months ago...this is at intercasino I notice the bonus remains in the account even after you deposit again,i figure i need to contact customer service to have these removed,and I didn't know this could effect my withdrawals and the bonus is for a poker bonus, not sure if its for interpoker either so it is a bit confusion hehe.

Poker bonuses are usually completely different from casino bonuses.
I'm not sure about Interpoker, but all the other sites I've played the bonus gets converted to real money (in chunks) as you play & meet certain rake levels and there is no restriction on withdrawing at any time.

 

[chuchu59]

KK,

While the rogue status you mentioned is purely sarcastic in nature, if they did this to some and not to others surely this is discriminatory. Of course if everyone got the same deal this would be