- Joined
- Jul 11, 2004
- Location
- Planet Earth (I think)
are you affiliated with vegas24 at all? because log in seems to workfor the cashier
sorry uungy
Player support is not allowed to give pin#'s in live chat. Regardless if they have answered the questions correctly or not, it is all done through the email.
I just got banned from two forums by the same person, Baechips, who is the moderator of Chipstalkers and the owner of PokerPlayerUS for posting negaitive comments about Vegas24 and CasinoeSpot. I was trying to warn players not to make a deposit with them. Apparently, he's in bed with them.
I was new to on-line poker and I trusted him and I made deposits at the "old" G2G, PokerEon, and Jon Wood gaming all of which have stolen my deposits and are not answering my emails. Baechips didn't bother to help me get my money back from any of these sites. When he posted Vegas24's banners I warned him about their history of pay out problems. He is now promoting CasinoSpot and Vegas24 both of which are Igaming sites. Igaming is Futurebet in disguise.
author=jolub link=1193859467/0#0 date=1193859467]I have been ripped off by the owners of these two sites at other sites which they own. I was stupid enough to follow the recommendations of another forum and make deposits. Here's where I've lost money at Futurebet / Igaming sites.
The "old" G2G
PokerEon
USDbet
Jon Wood Gaming
I also have money at Lucky Hog which I'll never see.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for the update. Do you think you all could send him a check? I had another site on FB do that for one of my players, sure made them happy.
Bruce
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> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:04:19 +0000
> From: Ben@xxxxx-xxxxxx.xxx
> To: baechips@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: Player help please
>
> Hi Bruce,
> I am aware of problems we are having in the past few weeks with our
> software. First let me assure you that your player will recieve his
> full withdrawal. We are changing our software and hopefully by next
> week it will be running again without any problems. Sorry for the
> inconvenience and this matter will be taken care of as soon as
> possible. Thanks in advance for your patience.
> Ben
>
> Quoting xxxxx xxxxxx <baechips@xxxxxxxx.net>:
>
> > Hi Ben, Hope this message finds you well. I have a member who
> > signed up under me that is getting the old Futurebet runaround on
> > his withdrawal, he requested it on 8/26/07 +/- and has yet to
> > receive it. Yes he is a US resident... his name is Jim xxxxx, email
> > xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx, screen name is more than likely jolub or
> > a slight variation. Would you be so kind as to look into this and
> > see if we can get his cash out expedited? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Best Regards,
Let me know if you do get paid, he owes me over $200 from 2 months back. Have you seen a JonWood Banner on any of my sites? I don't think so. Wish you luck my friend. I can't get him to answer my Instant messenges or email.
Bruce
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From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.com
To: baechips@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: FW: My withdrawal
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:34:56 -0400
I don’t think I’m going to have problems here but it would seem I have them everywhere. I did get my Bodog check as promised and on time.
From: xxx xxxxxx [mailto: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:33 PM
To: 'jon@jonwoodgaming.com'
Subject: My withdrawal
I requested a withdrawal on September 5, 2007. The cashier indicated it would be three weeks. That’s today and the money is not in my checking account. Please help me out as you posted at SBR.
I just received this post from a friend. We are currently processing all withdrawals at Jon Wood Gaming. Please email me at xxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com . I guarantee all cashouts and if you hear of someone having issues contact me as I want my players to be paid. We are not a scam book. We are a poker room that offers this to its clients. Please contact me asap so I can resolve this for you.
Jon Wood
On 9/4/07 3:02 PM, "Jim xxxxx" < xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
I check will be just fine. When, what date, do you think I will get it?
From: TheNutz Support [mailto:support@thenutz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:45 PM
To: xxx xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Second request - Status of my withdrawal
Hello Jim,
If you need the money to be transferred to EwalletExpress, this is out of our hands. All our cashouts are processed by a third party that is currently slow on US cashouts. We can process the cashout from our company, but can only send this payment in the form of a check.
Please advise on how you would like to proceed. Thanks.
TheNutz Support
Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
1-800-601-8969
On 9/3/07 10:28 PM, "Jim DeCook" < xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Thank you for getting back with me. I requested a withdrawal using EwalletExpress. Please deposit the money there.
From: TheNutz Support [mailto:support@thenutz.com]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:58 PM
To: xxx xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Second request - Status of my withdrawal
Hey Jim,
Sorry for the delay, as the support team was on a holiday this weekend. About your withdrawal, we are experiencing a delay on US cashouts after the new laws. We understand you are eager to have this solved, as you should be. We will send the check tomorrow for $28.80 as per your cashout.
We apologize for the delay and any inconvenience this may cause you. Good luck at the tables.
Cheers,
TheNutz Support
Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
1-800-601-8969
On 9/2/07 10:03 PM, "xxxxx xxxx" < xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
What is the status of my withdrawal? It has been a week and you have not answered my email. This is my second request.
From: xxxxxxxxxx [mailto: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:50 PM
To: 'support@theNutz.com'
Subject: Status of my withdrawal
What is the status of my withdrawal? I “requested” a withdrawal 8/27/07 using EwalletExpress. Your stated policy is from 24-48 hours which means I should have gotten my withdrawal by now. I just checked my EwalletExpress account and you have not made a deposited into my account.
Good luck getting your deposit and winning out. TheNutz doesn't believe in making any payouts.
jolub said:The "old" G2G ripped me off for my deposit and winnings. They are not answering my emails. I think I downloaded them from this site, Chipstalkers.
AND IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME THE NEW OWNERS COMPED YOUR ACCOUNT AT THE NEW SITE!!
Jim,
If you go to the site, click the "cashier" tab, then click deposit assistance it will show the live chat icon, click it, and request a pin. The will ask you a few security questions and then issue your pin. No deposit is needed.
Bruce
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From: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.com
To: baechips@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: FW: FW: My withdrawal
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:28:14 -0400
I don’t have a very good record for making withdrawals at the sites I downloaded from Chipstalkers. So far the only one I got paid at is Thenutz and that was only after you contacted them. Besides Jon Wood Gaming, $154.00 deposit, I also got stuck at PokerEon which never has answered any of my emails and I’ve given up any hope of getting my deposit and winnings from the “old” G2G. It also looks like a screwing is coming up from Casinoespot, Igaming which is really Futurebet in disguise, as you need a pin to make a withdrawal. The only way you get a pin is by making a deposit which isn’t going to happen. How about some help getting my money out of there? They can keep their “free” $10.00. By the way Casinospot is not answering any of my emails. Casinospot also has the same icon as USDbet another site that’s stuck me for $80.00.
From: xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
To: baechips@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Casinospot withdrawal
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 01:11:20 -0400
I’m still waiting for CasinoSpot’s email. Casinospot’s live chat is the same as their email, no answer. That’s what I expected from a Futurebet / Igaming site. And you wonder why I get mad. I’ll tell you why if you don’t already know, PokerEon, Jon Wood, Casinospot, and G2G. If you wouldn’t have helped me TheNutz would have screwed me too. These are all sites that you recommended and you made money off my deposits and now you won’t help me get my money back. Now you’re recommending two more rip off sites. Vegas24 has a long history of withdrawal problems. Don’t you care if the members of your forums get screwed? Today’s posts weren’t aimed at you. They were meant to stop others from getting screwed over the way I’ve been screwed over. I never said who recommended these no withdrawal sites but we both know it was you. How can you continue to push these sites? Doesn’t it bother you when your forum members lose their deposits or is it just “business.” Are my lost deposits just “business?” I once considered you a close poker friend. I was willing to share my life’s story with you. Bruce, I was touched when you offered to pay my way into the Deathmatch. Why didn’t I take it? Because I don’t take advantage of friends, that’s why. I use to play in some of your games just to support you and help get them off the ground. I posted in your forums to help you get them going. Now, I feel like I was taken for a fool.
How about you taking money from your affiliate accounts and paying me my deposits back? It was your advice I was following when I made the deposits. I’m talking about $250.00 plus dollars. This may be a small sum to you but it’s not to me.
KingJolub: I would like to get a pin for casinospot
You are now speaking with Gerard of Player-Support.
KingJolub: I would like to get a pin for casinospot
Gerard: Hello KingJolub. You have reached Player Support.
Gerard: You mean for the cashout?
KingJolub: yes, please
Gerard: May I have your username please?
KingJolub: You are looking at it
Gerard: You will need to answer 3 questions due to security reasons before I can provide you the pin number?
KingJolub: sounds fair
KingJolub: go ahead. ask away
Gerard: Password Question: xxxxxx
KingJolub: xxxxxxx
Gerard: Phone Number
KingJolub: xxxxxxx
Gerard: Postal/Zip Code
KingJolub: xxxxx
Gerard: Is this your correct e-mail xxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx.com ?
KingJolub: yes, you can email it there
Gerard: Your pin number has been sent to your e-mail address ,this is for your own referrence : xxxxxx
Gerard: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
KingJolub: yes, can you tell me if I'll be able to make a withdrawal?
Gerard: You will need to proceed for withdrawal first,if you have not met the withdrawal requirements you will receive an e-mail from the cashier department on how much you need to rollover in order to make a successfuly withdrawal.
KingJolub: thank you I'm signing off
Gerard: If your withdrawal has not been decline,your withdrawal will be successful
Hello James,
I have just been in contact with Bruce xxxxxx and he has forwarded me
an email in regards to an issue you have with withdrawing money from
Casinospot.com?
I have read the email and am not sure what you are talking about? First
you have never deposited at casinospot.com, we gave you $10.00 real
money to try our site in a promotion we ran many months ago. I have
reviewed your chat with player support and it would appear that an email
had been dispatched to you with a new pin #. If you did not receive
this pin # directly into your inbox, check your "junk" box as some email
providers do not allow emails from gaming addresses.
Casinospot.com has no relation with the other companies that you mention
in your email, and we have absolutely NO cashout issues. Our players
are all paid within 24-48 hours, period. We take care of our customers
and our affiliates in a very professional and timely manner.
If there is an issue with ANY part of casinospot.com please contact me
immediately so that I may deal with it directly.
Thank you,
Morty
We had a few big winners. One player won $10K in one month and a few others in the low thousands. We had not been in communication much with FutureBet but we wanted to make sure they were going to pay the big winner his $10K. Because we were negative that month, they said no. If they really had 70 sites all making over $25K a month, I wouldnt think this float would be a big deal for them, but the partnership was new so went ahead and paid the guy out of our own bank account.
When pressed, FutureBet blamed one of their payment processors for not paying them. We were then forced to pay big winners out of our own bank account, for fear of pissing them off. We were simply digging a bigger and bigger hole for ourselves.
Fast forward to 2006, we stopped paying the winners out of our own pocket by this time, as FutureBet was rarely paying us.
have you spammed Daniel?