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Urgent warning: Ace-Games.com (RTG) !!!

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schankwart

Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.ca
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Unfortunately I am reserved to report about the newest addition in the gambling-roguesters Hall-of-Fame here again...

Ace Games has withheld my $5400 withdrawal for four (4!) months now.

After sending DOZENS of emails and involvement of affiliates (who of course have now dumped this joint) I have been paid $2000 of the sum but the Casino keeps giving me the run-around and I can not accept this any longer!
I tried everything I can to resolve this without escalation but their Casino manager "Mr. Wade Reese" keeps trying to F me..

I have been offered a bonus on my deposit and of course played by all rules.
The manager is now reporting about major financial problems as you can read in his email:
"The casino is struggling and having many problems when most casinos would be out of business we have some strong backing so we are fighting to get to the point we are ahead and will not have to confront these problems anymore. Please I have kept my word with you and paid you what I can. I will send the rest soon th at is all I had in my Neteller account (...)"

He has been promising me payments for uncountable times already but all he tells is just plain BS but the fact that they are rogue, lie, do not pay legitimate winners and, last but not least, do obviously not even have money!!

-Looks like Montana will have to be my savior again...


Stay from this breed of evil a.k.a. AceGames.com!!!
 
Wow, check out the newest email:

"Schankwart I will tell you again. I am NOT just fucking with you like you THINK. I am here I respond your mails I am honest to you and I am not lying when I say I will send you what I have in Neteller as I have it please I cant live with you writing me all day and threatening me with posts and all. I am being professional about this and honest can you at least value that and stop blackmailing me? have a little compassion for me as I am struggling to make it in this HARD and competitive business. I am not going to screw you man I have every intentions of paying you every dime. Gimmie the time I know it has been awhile but, better later than never as I always say. You arent loosing anything I gave you all your deposit back already and I am currently paying you the winnings. Please again think about this and work with me.

Thank You,
Wade Reese"


...this is the same type of email I have received at least a dozen times from him within the last 4 months.
 
How are you blackmailing him when all you are looking for is what is rightfully owed you from a legitimate win? This is NOT blackmail by any stretch of the imagination. If YOU owed the casino $5K for 4 months, they SURELY would be crawling up your @$$ on a daily basis and badgering you for the money. And probably sending it to collection and/or leg breakers. If he wants to come clean, he can take a loan from the bank or a credit card and pay you what you are owed. Then I'm sure you will stop posting and emailing him. 4 months is MUCH MUCH more time than I'd have given them before I started posting.

I think if I were you, I'd also notify neteller of these problems as well as RTG & Montana. All they are doing is stalling while they hope more people will come there and play and lose so he can pay you. Unfortunately, posting about it does kind of reduce your chances of getting paid, but I think it was the right thing for you to do so that others don't end up in the same situation.
 
I have been waiting for so long because I thought I could handle this myself. I was wrong.

Now that crook has dug his own grave and I will make sure I'll get paid.

-Exactly that is my interest jpm, to warn other players not to deposit a cent there...!
 
schankwart said:
Now that crook has dug his own grave and I will make sure I'll get paid.
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Let's be mellow on the name calling.

I didn't see a "Pitch a Bitch" from you, so I am assuming you don't want me to assist. If you do, I would recommend not posting the manager's emails and such. This doesn't help much :D

Why did you wait 4 months for this? Who referred you to this casino?
 
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Ahoy Brian, unfortunately I was the one who refered myself to this Casino. :o

I know that the words I have chosen were not the nicest ones but unfortunately am too upset to say it any different. My apology to you.
Indeed I have not pitched a bitch yet.
The reason for my hesitation to involve anyone else was because I fell for Mr. Reese's tricks and kept up my good faith for too long.
He kept promising me payments over and over but I kept believing the nonsense and lies he brought up.
He also lied to affiliates who tried to help me getting paid.
This man has no morals at all.

I am going to wait for another few days now to see how this develops and so I can decide how to proceed with this issue.
 
...as far as my quotation of some of Mr. Reese's goes I feel like I just had to post them because no words could have explained the way he expressed himself.
 
Is that so?

I think that u are a stupid motherfucker for being so "patience" but if the manager answered your message that means to me that he is trying and cares! Not like connect casino that makes u call back every 1 hour just to think in another lie to give you, I play there sometimes and when I cash out ($475) I talked to support and after a few minutes they said that it was going to be sent the next day....and yes, they did!

Relax Dude, they will u are not dealing with Virtual casino (oh boy )...I think they are a good casino and that you should give this kid a chance!

BJkill :lolup:
 
schankwart said:
Wow, check out the newest email:

"Schankwart I will tell you again. I am NOT just fucking with you like you THINK. I am here I respond your mails I am honest to you and I am not lying when I say I will send you what I have in Neteller as I have it please I cant live with you writing me all day and threatening me with posts and all. I am being professional about this and honest can you at least value that and stop blackmailing me? have a little compassion for me as I am struggling to make it in this HARD and competitive business. I am not going to screw you man I have every intentions of paying you every dime. Gimmie the time I know it has been awhile but, better later than never as I always say. You arent loosing anything I gave you all your deposit back already and I am currently paying you the winnings. Please again think about this and work with me.

Thank You,
Wade Reese"


...this is the same type of email I have received at least a dozen times from him within the last 4 months.
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Unbelievable, as is a four month wait for legitimate winnings. The astonishing frankness of the manager aside, this operation looks to be on a steeply declining slope and I would be surprised if their software provider is not monitoring their performance closely at this critical stage.
 
schankwart said:
Hello Mr. Reese (g@tubela) & welcome to the forum! :xxx

Everyone is free to get an own impression of this person now...
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We can't be too sure of this. But whatever the case may be, that poster is welcome here to converse nicely after the 24th.
 
g@tubela said:
I think that u are a stupid motherfucker for being so "patience" but if the manager answered your message that means to me that he is trying and cares! Not like connect casino that makes u call back every 1 hour just to think in another lie to give you, I play there sometimes and when I cash out ($475) I talked to support and after a few minutes they said that it was going to be sent the next day....and yes, they did!

Relax Dude, they will u are not dealing with Virtual casino (oh boy )...I think they are a good casino and that you should give this kid a chance!

BJkill :lolup:
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...this is clearly "Reese language" and I doubt that too many people around here would adopt this type. ;)

Also please take a look at his profile and check out the below statement he sent me a few days ago:

"I will send the rest soon th at is all I had in my Neteller account please &am p; lt; ; BR> re-think this attitude and try to work with me. I AM NOT FUCKING WITH YOU!!!!"
 
I like the way he managed to bad-mouth two of his competitors in the one post. They don't exactly belong to any Mutual Admiration Society, these RTG operators.

g@tubela said:
Not like connect casino that makes u call back every 1 hour just to think in another lie to give you...u are not dealing with Virtual casino (oh boy )...
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caruso said:
I like the way he managed to bad-mouth two of his competitors in the one post. They don't exactly belong to any Mutual Admiration Society, these RTG operators.
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That was another tell. I will actually play at Virtual, but never at this place!
 
schankwart said:
Hello Mr. Reese (g@tubela) & welcome to the forum! :xxx

Everyone is free to get an own impression of this person now...
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This person is not the casino manager from Ace-Games. I emailed them to get their opinion on Ace-Games and It definitely is not management. This is a woman from Costa Rica who did njot exactly promote Ace-Games, and in fact warned me to be careful in putting a large deposit into Ace-Games or any online casino. Also explained that they had problems with a few casinos located in Costa Rica such as Connect and Virtual and that the good thing about being in Costa Rica was the ability to go to the offices of problem casinos and confront them. Anyways I do not believe it is Ace-Games management in disguise.
 
Just to set one thing clear. If you are in Costa Rica, it is against the law here to play in a Costarican On line based casino. We are set-up to only allow play for fun for residents here. So I am not sure how she was able to play.
Ted
Manager Virtual Casino
 
Newbie Question

Wassup People!
Hey, I'm new to this whole gambling thing, so I've been doing research on forums and stuff to see which casino offer better service and all that kinda stuff.
Anyways, so I was reading this post and I'm wandering, what do you do in a situation where you are not getting paid (or supposely not getting paid)? I donno whether its true or not cause I wasn't there.

What I figured, there should be a place where you can go if a long time goes by and you haven't gotten paid right?

If there is, then why didn't this guy ask for help, and if there's not, damn...that really blows.

Other than that, I donno if a casino manager would be so dumb to put postings with foul language and write down costa rica as his location???

Any feedback dudes...
 
No offense...

I would get pretty pissed off if someone was emailing me all day threatening to post things in forums and threatening to do crazy things... Oh wait, yeah. that's black mail, so yes you were black mailing them.

Yes, the money is rightfully yours, but I can see things from their perspective as well. When I was a support technician, I constantly got threats like that (whether or not the issue was the company's fault... More than 80% of the time it wasn't). It's hard to put up with and all you'll end up doing is frustrate them to the point of you deserving an email like that.

He seems honest in saying that you will get your money -- did he state anywhere on his page that you can withdrawl all of it at once? It sounds like he has to make the money before he can pay you. Obviously, he's in the wrong business.

You catch more flies with sugar and you will get things done WAY better if you don't attack people or black mail them.

Yes you deserve your money, yes you deserved the reply that you got.
 
I would get pretty pissed off if someone was emailing me all day threatening to post things in forums and threatening to do crazy things... Oh wait, yeah. that's black mail, so yes you were black mailing them.
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Who are you referring to? I must have missed something because I don't think I read anywhere that the player was emailing and threatening anyone. Maybe you're confused on the previous quotes. Or I am.

Honesty, sincerity, from the Casino Manager's emails are worthless if it's all just B.S. :eek:

And the day I have to find the clause on every casino website stating that my minimum cashouts should be paid within a 3 month period or it excuses them to pay me in any length of time they wish is the day I will say goodbye to the online gambling world.

Business is business and there's no excuse for such unprofessionalism.

That's my 2 cents anyway.
 
When to call it quits

Hey all the bodies! Again I watch this, and it is a visious circle,

Player attack casino, casino operator attack player, player get upset, player go to forum, some forum member attack casino, some forum member attack player (hey, i am also using the word attack very loosely so please dont get the visous bloodthirsty idea i am trying to create in your head)

When do you say enough is enough? The guy said he will pay, you don't believe him. The way I see it you have two options:

1) work out a five year plan on how to keep tabs on this person untill him or his establishment settle the score
2) cut your losses and find another home. I can suggest a few, just mail me! :P

of course there is option three.

Become his girlfriend and bleed him dry. If you are not up for the job, I am for hire.... heheh
 
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Not like connect casino that makes u call back every 1 hour just to think in another lie to give you, I play there sometimes and when I cash out ($475) I talked to support and after a few minutes they said that it was going to be sent the next day....and yes, they did!

First of all .......
Wade Reese used to be "ConnectoCasino" .......
and now is the head honcho at LogOn Casino/Ace-Games.

Secondly, I, found his conduct unbecoming a casino owner in the very short time I had to deal with him........and I will never deal with him or LogOn ever again....

He has done more than a few things at other forums making it easy for me to believe that he would post at this forum under an aliias in defense of himself.... it wouldn't suprise me a bit...nothing he does has yet,
 
It was in the letter that he was referring to her threatening to post things on a message forum, which is a form of blackmail. I hated it when people threatened that at my last job, but then again, the casino is in the wrong in this case and the members were usually wrong in my case.

Petunia said:
Become his girlfriend and bleed him dry. If you are not up for the job, I am for hire.... heheh
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Hehehe.
 
Jocelyn said:
It was in the letter that he was referring to her threatening to post things on a message forum, which is a form of blackmail. I hated it when people threatened that at my last job, but then again, the casino is in the wrong in this case and the members were usually wrong in my case.
Hehehe.
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This is NOT blackmail. He is not trying to extort any money out of them that is beyond what is rightfully due to him. If he were, then that would be blackmail. He is trying to get paid what he is due and is well within his right to post here about it after waiting patiently for months. Telling/threatening them that he is going to do so is a fair tactic in this case, since they have been making him wait so long for his payment. They would not give him the same courtesy if he'd lost, they want the money up front. He should expect no less from them when he wins.
 
Since I am on vacation in the U.S. currently I have unfortunately not been able to respond on this issue any earlier.

I will pick up on this rip-off asap from here again...
 
Still Don't Get It

So check it, you guys just complain and complain, many tell this guy he's right, and others say the casino was being "blackmailed" (legal and literal definition of blackmail does no apply here), so hasn't it occured to you guys that none of us have the slightest inkling of what's going on, I mean, for all we know it could be someone whose bitter about having lost his money or a casino that's not being responsible.

I am a newbie to the forum but not to gambling, and I've seen guys scream their lungs out at casinos because they lost their stash, so I rather not come to any conclusions.

Anyone else agrees????
 
Jay,
I do agree... I worked in a land based casino... had pple screaming at ME that I stole their money.. hehehe, I was the bloody waitress!!!

BUT, it is also good to air ... not always is the laundry dirty, but sometimes it is toxic waiste.... if you catch my drift!
 
Now... Firstly I do not understand why a couple people here are accusing me of having "blackmailed" that joint? -It is clearly obvious that this Casino has been trying to NOT pay me for MONTHS as well as lied an endless amount of times! I could indeed not have ben any more of a superpatient customer already. -Ace Games actually should be glad I did not bring this to public attention months earlier already!


I have posted the whole story as it is so far.

There is nothing made up and it is just as sad as it is.

"Jay"... Why are you questioning my trustworthiness so much? -Is there any reason you dislike me or "something"? ;)
 
LOL, that's hilarious. Incredible that this bloke actually purports to be a BUSINESSMAN. How did he ever get the startup cash to run an RTG?

This is obviously a job for RTG complaints - this Reese character isn't going to pay a penny since he plainly doesn't have anything to pay with.
 
casinomeister said:
Hi JayBurning and welcome to the forum. :D

JayBurning IP 216.194.165.8
g@tubela IP 216.194.165.8

Does anybody find this odd besides me?
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I love it when morons like this make it so easy to expose them :lolup:
 
I simply cant belive it

I started my forum in April of this year, and as you all might know, forums usually need to get some sponsors to promote your forum.

Well along came logon casino / ace games to the rescue !!

I spoke with Chuck ( the good guy ) on and off and we woked out a deal to have logon casino promoted within my forum. I was very loyal and did give them most of the top space at the top ( where banners go ) and they pretty well had the whole forum to promote themselves as a good honest casino.

This went on for months and i was very loyal, no matter what I heard.

Well for the last couple months I have been trying very hard to build back up the forum as reputable.

To summerize everything...screw you wade and logon casino for wasting my time, my money, and my reputation.

But I have worked hard and have fixed all the damage you have done...good ridence to you and way to go C.M !!!!

puma
 
Thank God, there has been some positive progress on this issue!

A couple weeks ago a man named "Carlos Miranda" contacted me on behalf of "Ace Games" and offered me to pay all outstanding debts. Mr. Miranda told me that he just started working together with this Casino and he admitted that I "was not being treated the way I was supposed to be treated with" in the past. He now wants to wipe out their debts in order to get a "clean vest" for the future.
As per him Mr. Wade Reese, the crook who started all this, is no longer working in their management but has been moved over to their marketing section now.

Mr. Miranda appeared to be a very reasonable person in my correspondence with him and he already paid me the first installment of $1000 to Neteller, as per the payment plan that we both agreed on.

If Mr. Miranda now honors all his promises I will let this issue settle down. The whole process is in his hands now but I believe in the good of his person.
 
Carlos has been in contact with me over the past few weeks as well stating that he is cleaning up the mess that was Ace-games/logoncasino. More power to him; I wish him much luck. I'm glad they are taking care of your payment issue.
 

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