stakers.com ?
I too would recommend that you look at Stakers. They seem to be very on the ball when it comes to customer services and are very fast in responding to any issues both in live chat as well as via Email.Their site runs very smoothly too.
Are they working with affiliates at all? Don't see aff program anywhere..
Regarding Thrills' markets it's now open to Swedish, Finnish and German players only.
While I realize CM is an affiliate site, I don't think a review of a casino should depend on whether they take affiliates or not, or if CM is an affiliate.
What do you mean?
If casino doesn't have affiliate program, any affiliate including Casinomeister can't work with them
You can still do a review?
Yes of course, but what is the point?
No affiliate manager, no rep, no collaboration, no signup links - that's not how casino-affiliate relationship works. Ask any affiliate/portal
<snipped aggressive comment> Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.Looks like Dunnover was right when he implied Sky's review was removed as you weren't getting paid then.
Will you be removing all the rogue listings then as surely you don't get paid for those?
Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites.Colin, feel free to post your own review then. Just don't link to their site.
@colinsunderland
Just a word of advice DO NOT harass my accounts manager. That is a sure fire way to get the boot from here. Jelena is only looking for ways to improve our reviews, which are a hell of a lot of work, and she doesn't need your bullshit passive aggressive posts.
What the f&^%? Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.
Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do.
Or maybe I will just start disallowing affiliates from posting on my forum, eh?
Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites.
I’m am so confused about my basic understanding of the site right now.
Fair-trusted-unbiased-supportive.
I think I totally misinterpreted the ‘philosophy’ when I decided to be active here.
“Casinomeister is a informational driven business. Casinomeister’s community, information, and services proceed any marketing and profit making ventures”
I figured you were a million miles away from the dodgy AG site where players are ‘tunnelled’ into signing up and affiliate link profits were the key driving force.
I appreciate that there are bills to pay and costs to cover and for that reason, always check for a CM link when I want to join a new casino.
Good Will = good Will doesn’t it?
Why is it that lately, any ‘black hat’ Questions or comments are seen as a negative or personal attack?
(See DeBono/leadership and management if you don’t know what I mean).
you can't hardly call it censorship though, when whether the POV is agreed to or not, you're still free to post it....and at the end the post still standsThe response to anything that appears to be viewed as a negative critique is nothing short of censorship with an extra dose of personal attack on the poster.
you can't hardly call it censorship though, when whether the POV is agreed to or not, you're still free to post it....and at the end the post still stands
and all that aside, this isnt a backyard protest - its someone's site, just like FB, with its own rules
people never seem to get that freedom to speak isnt free of repercussions
Oh dear. I somehow knew this is gonna escalate in a negative way and connotation.
There is still no operator who can pay to have a review up, to get into BBF, to be accredited, to be into picks or recommendations, to get complaint solved or even worse removed, to get out of the rogue pit. So please stop implying that Sky Vegas or whoever else didn't pay or didn't pay enough to be here or to be in Accredited section. Accredited casinos have to fulfill certain requirements which stand for years. Forum representative is surely one of the main ones and each accredited casino has a chance to provide us with one. Trust me, they get many many opportunities, emails, warnings and quite enough time to sort this out. If they don't - they are usually moved up in Grey Zone. Both Grey Zone and Accredited sections are not set in stone for any of casinos. And this is also where your input is appreciated and welcome. But if you consider some casino shall be accredited just because it has great freebies - that's simply not enough reason. Don't automatically think they didn't pay us please. It's really rude comment.
There's certainly a good reason our partnership and relationship was broken or main requirements haven't been met and it doesn't have anything to do with money!
I don't like to compare, but just to give a better picture - many big and small affiliates nowadays charge big fees just to list some casino in the website, many of them even ask operators and managers themselves to write their own reviews. Many of them pay Google for ads. And that's terrible and of course 100% unfair to players.
We prepare and upload reviews completely free and write them too. We also ask you for the feedback and constructive suggestions while casino is in flames (BBF) - these suggestions are often taken seriously by this casino and improved during the process, so you can even consider yourself being part of making casinos better places.
Having good relationship and collaboration with some brand also means that only Casinomeister members can have certain privileges there, like competitions, better bonus, direct help and contact.. And that's a matter of good will and friendship with CM.
So that's why we appreciate these brands and teams more than ones who don't bother too much or at all. Logically.
Now, affiliate program. Same as you open account in casino, affiliates open account in affiliate program of casino.
Affiliate program shows that casino is open for partnering with affiliates. There are also T&C and some rules that cover this partnership and tell affiliates what they can expect from this collaboration and about brands this affiliate program represents.
Having account in affiliate program, provide affiliates with updates (that there's new bonus, that some country is excluded from now on or even that some casino is closing down - for example), materials like landing pages, images, special campaigns, statistics like number of players for a certain month - which is actually great, because for affiliate it can be a good feedback how their players liked this brand and a signal that we might pay attention to this brand and try getting even a better bonus/promo for players.
Casinos get list of the sites they work with, get stats, create special campaigns, notify partnering affiliates about what's new etc. - through affiliate program.
Simply, affiliate program is a default sign of being ready to connect with affiliates. So, casinos without affiliate program for affiliates/partners mean this casino is not ready or not open for any kind of collaboration. And why would these casinos have the same chances to be here as brands who are open and cooperative? I think it's more than generous that Casinomeister allows those kind of brands to be mentioned and discussed about in the forums or get any similar attention.
I know you'll say - put those in a Grey Zone, but Grey Zone is not bad as it may sound. This area is reserved for new brands who are still not tested by you and us, for brands which are alright, but missing to meet some important requirement or requirements, which were not interested in being thrown into fire for BBF or think they're not ready yet (or we think they're not ready yet because of for example big withdrawal limits)..
So, my opinion is why giving some brand without affiliate program to stand shoulder to shoulder to the rest of the Grey Zone brands. No affiliate program = no partnership and all our brands here are our partners in a way - liked the term or not.
Rogue pit is of course an exception and exists to warn you and prevent you from making mistakes and regretting your time and money.
All in all, everything goes through affiliate program.
by dint that everyone CAN read colin's post shows it wasnt censoredEveryone can read the response to Colin's last post so I shall simply leave it there
From my understanding of what I read it was in no way an attack or intended to spiral in a negative way.
Putting aside the skyvegas thing it was more about the players in a community saying...here’s a site or two that a user rating would definitely be high for given our experiences. Perhaps you want to Persue them first before other casino forums do.
Which equals higher placings on google searches and more traffic etc etc etc
The first truely negative post I read was from Bryan himself but I guess ‘his site, his perogative’ x
Don’t see any attack on anyone.@colinsunderland
Just a word of advice DO NOT harass my accounts manager. That is a sure fire way to get the boot from here. Jelena is only looking for ways to improve our reviews, which are a hell of a lot of work, and she doesn't need your bullshit passive aggressive posts.
What the f&^%? Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.
Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do.
Or maybe I will just start disallowing affiliates from posting on my forum, eh?
Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites.
Thanks for a more detailed explanation Jelena. Players still get a review for Rogued casinos, and there are literally thousands of casinos online, so you need to need to use your resources for Grey Zone ones that provide affiliate income.