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so far this casino i played for 3months, more winning than losing. honestly.

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lightningff13 said:
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so far this casino i played for 3months, more winning than losing. honestly.

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Ah pity, I was hoping for some good suggestion :(
 
colinsunderland said:
You could maybe look at Blacktype, primarily a bookie but do have a casino. I've met the owner a few times and he's very knowledgeable, decent, and was previously heavily involved with Stan James, so has been around for some time.
Only thing is, they are particular about who they allow on board as affiliates, and not sure they would have a rep on board as the casino is pretty much self running I believe. Might be worth dropping them an email though.
As a bookies I can't speak highly enough of them, any large bets are reviewed by humans rather than a computer, and pricing is the same, which is a rarity these days.
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Good god a uk casino with a uk address I love the look of this think this is a definite sign up
 
incrediblestuff said:
Just checked, only one i can think of is Lapalingo..seems like a decent one, and they also have some Games that rarely find anywhere else..
And with 'seems' i mean i have deposited and cashed out there, all smoothy enough..
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On my list! :)
Even have a meeting scheduled with them on LAC :)
 
This won’t be a popular post, it’s not intended to flame before I’m attacked.
Can a casino not just be judged due to how it affects players, I mean keep the business/affy side seperatly?..
sky for example.. one if not the fastest payers, loads of games and good offers...
yes they ripped affiliates off, but not players, normal people without a vested interest.
There’s a lot of casinos on here fully accredited with offers so bad it’s laughable, yet a player friendly site like sky are not?..
not wanting to upset the Apple cart so to speak but you can’t judge a casino because in a business world it didn’t satisfy past or present business partners.
Plenty of players are treated very well, just because they don’t have a link to sign up to said casino doesn’t mean the casino are bad nor rogue.
 
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Playford7 said:
This won’t be a popular post, it’s not intended to flame before I’m attacked.
Can a casino not just be judged due to how it affects players, I mean keep the business/affy side seperatly?..
sky for example.. one if not the fastest payers, loads of games and good offers...
yes they ripped affiliates off, but not players, normal people without a vested interest.
There’s a lot of casinos on here fully accredited with offers so bad it’s laughable, yet a player friendly site like sky are not?..
not wanting to upset the Apple cart so to speak but you can’t judge a casino because in a business world it didn’t satisfy past or present business partners.
Plenty of players are treated very well, just because they don’t have a link to sign up to saod casino doesn’t mean the casino are bad nor rogue.
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Agreed.
 
a key reason to being accredited isnt just the business side - it's for the players' protection. If the casino isnt willing to work with CM to resolve player issues, CM can't in good conscience recommend them.
As good as a casino may be, or appear to be, they could simply one day, go meh, sorry Charlie, talk to the hand.
Bryan doesnt just sign up casinos willy-nilly for the bucks - its also the whole vetting process for accreditation, and that players going in, know full well what to expect.
 
Does cm ever send in players as undercover? To see what its like as a player before being reviewed in open? For example getting two or three players to open accounts find out there views first then open it to public review here?
 
Playford7 said:
Are these guys linked to the thrills licence at all please?.
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Thrills was my favourite casino. Despite having trouble loading a few games there. I lost there sometimes obviously but I never ever had a dreadful run there. It was the one casino I was sad to lose but life goes on.
 
Playford7 said:
Are these guys linked to the thrills licence at all please?.
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Hello Playford7,

We're not under the same license globally due to Thrills is under the BetIt Operations Limited license, with the casinos Highroller, Kaboo, Superlenny for the global market (except the Swedish Market).

I'm glad to hear the Thrills was your favourite once we had the global market, I'm sorry that you had issues loading games. Unfortunately, we're not available for UK players.

Hopefully, any of our other brands work out for you.

Kind Regards,
Thrills Rep
 
ThrillsRep said:
Hello Playford7,

We're not under the same license globally due to Thrills is under the BetIt Operations Limited license, with the casinos Highroller, Kaboo, Superlenny for the global market (except the Swedish Market).

I'm glad to hear the Thrills was your favourite once we had the global market, I'm sorry that you had issues loading games. Unfortunately, we're not available for UK players.

Hopefully, any of our other brands work out for you.

Kind Regards,
Thrills Rep
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I believe you reps should get the same information since you post different rules.
Just a few days ago we were told that for UK players then when it came to SE it would cover all MT Secure Trades casinos.
 
Tirilej said:
I believe you reps should get the same information since you post different rules.
Just a few days ago we were told that for UK players then when it came to SE it would cover all MT Secure Trades casinos.
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I'm sorry, I did inform incorrectly, which is my fault. I do apologize, I missed it was a UK player.

For UK players, it is the same license overall and will be in effect on all brands and all white labels, however, for other countries, it's 2 separate licenses.

Kind Regards,
Thrills Rep
 
bowki said:
Oranje Casino. Part of the betsson group. KYC done in one hour and they have the best welcome bonus I have seen in years. Only 15X wagering the bonus, no max cashout, no bullshit rules.
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Thanks @bowki ! I always thought they're strictly Dutch focused brand :)
 
colinsunderland said:
stakers.com ?
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I too would recommend that you look at Stakers. They seem to be very on the ball when it comes to customer services and are very fast in responding to any issues both in live chat as well as via Email.Their site runs very smoothly too.
 
geordiecolin said:
I too would recommend that you look at Stakers. They seem to be very on the ball when it comes to customer services and are very fast in responding to any issues both in live chat as well as via Email.Their site runs very smoothly too.
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Just to add. It took no longer than half an hour with the assistance of live chat to have my docs processed and verified and my money was in my account(Visa) within less than 6 hours. And that from a free bonus without ever making a deposit (Had to deposit after in order to verify my account). Very good going IMO :thumbsup:
 
LadyJelena said:
Are they working with affiliates at all? Don't see aff program anywhere..

Regarding Thrills' markets it's now open to Swedish, Finnish and German players only.
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While I realize CM is an affiliate site, I don't think a review of a casino should depend on whether they take affiliates or not, or if CM is an affiliate. Ditto for the bookie, although if they are "picky" about affiliates, I see that as a good thing. Some affiliates are pretty dodgy, but CM is not one of them.
 
Jasminebed said:
While I realize CM is an affiliate site, I don't think a review of a casino should depend on whether they take affiliates or not, or if CM is an affiliate.
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What do you mean?

If casino doesn't have affiliate program, any affiliate including Casinomeister can't work with them :)
 
colinsunderland said:
You can still do a review?
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Yes of course, but what is the point?
No affiliate manager, no rep, no collaboration, no signup links - that's not how casino-affiliate relationship works. Ask any affiliate/portal
 
LadyJelena said:
Yes of course, but what is the point?
No affiliate manager, no rep, no collaboration, no signup links - that's not how casino-affiliate relationship works. Ask any affiliate/portal
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The point is people think you are a player portal and money doesn't actually mean review, in fact

Casinomeister is a informational driven business. Casinomeister’s community, information, and services proceed any marketing and profit making ventures. We are not motivated by money.

Has that changed now then? You are an affiliate site that only has reviews if you are getting paid? Wow. Looks like Dunnover was right when he implied Sky's review was removed as you weren't getting paid then. Will you be removing all the rogue listings then as surely you don't get paid for those?

I really don't understand that tbh.

@Casinomeister ?
 
@colinsunderland

Just a word of advice DO NOT harass my accounts manager. That is a sure fire way to get the boot from here. Jelena is only looking for ways to improve our reviews, which are a hell of a lot of work. <snipped aggressive comment>

colinsunderland said:
Looks like Dunnover was right when he implied Sky's review was removed as you weren't getting paid then.
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<snipped aggressive comment> Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.

colinsunderland said:
Will you be removing all the rogue listings then as surely you don't get paid for those?
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Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do. :rolleyes:

Or maybe I will just start disallowing affiliates from posting on my forum, eh?

Jasminebed said:
Colin, feel free to post your own review then. Just don't link to their site.
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Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites. :p
 
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Casinomeister said:
@colinsunderland

Just a word of advice DO NOT harass my accounts manager. That is a sure fire way to get the boot from here. Jelena is only looking for ways to improve our reviews, which are a hell of a lot of work, and she doesn't need your bullshit passive aggressive posts.


What the f&^%? Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.



Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do. :rolleyes:

Or maybe I will just start disallowing affiliates from posting on my forum, eh?


Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites. :p
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Yeah cos I'm the one who said theres no point reviewing a casino as there is no affiliate program, and I'm the one who said the skybet review was removed because you didn't get paid any more? Oh wait, nope, that was your staff.
 
I must be missing something - I see how it all works...as working :)
CM shows us affiliated accredited casinos, which means he has an ongoing working relationship with them..and i dont mean just the money end...i mean, where maxd can help resolve issues, Bryan can poke reps with a stick or chase up, and theyre vetted for trustworthiness.

He points out grey zoned - use with caution casinos, and rogue ones who'll leave you high and dry.

An affiliation doesnt just mean, we promote, you pay...it means a working relationship to benefit everyone.

As for reviews, I've never seen Bryan curb members from mentioning good or bad things about any casino, beyond promoting rogue ones, and staff and members generally jump in with kudos, heads-up, warnings etc. There's always a thread to be found along the lines of '..has anyone played at...' which stand unless it's a shill
 
I see reviews for Grey Zone, Not Recommended and even Rogued Casinos. So perhaps I am missing something here? I am not trying to be disrepectful, and I can see it being further down the list in priority. I only read one review of a Rogue casino, and I did notice there was not a link, lol.

Other than Casino Rewards, which I've been happy enough with even before CM, I only play at accredited Casinos. I would not consider joining a new one unless it was accredited, or at least in BOF.

Your house, your decisions. I am very glad I am a member. Before CM I ended up at Rogue Casinos, even got screwed over. So if I googled Mighty Slots review, it would not be helpful if no review from Casinomeister came up in the search. Heck, it was unscrupulous affiliates that led me astray in the first place.
 
I’m am so confused about my basic understanding of the site right now.

Fair-trusted-unbiased-supportive.

I think I totally misinterpreted the ‘philosophy’ when I decided to be active here.

“Casinomeister is a informational driven business. Casinomeister’s community, information, and services proceed any marketing and profit making ventures”

I figured you were a million miles away from the dodgy AG site where players are ‘tunnelled’ into signing up and affiliate link profits were the key driving force.

I appreciate that there are bills to pay and costs to cover and for that reason, always check for a CM link when I want to join a new casino.
Good Will = good Will doesn’t it?

Why is it that lately, any ‘black hat’ Questions or comments are seen as a negative or personal attack?
(See DeBono/leadership and management if you don’t know what I mean).
 
Oh dear. I somehow knew this is gonna escalate in a negative way and connotation.

There is still no operator who can pay to have a review up, to get into BBF, to be accredited, to be into picks or recommendations, to get complaint solved or even worse removed, to get out of the rogue pit. So please stop implying that Sky Vegas or whoever else didn't pay or didn't pay enough to be here or to be in Accredited section. Accredited casinos have to fulfill certain requirements which stand for years. Forum representative is surely one of the main ones and each accredited casino has a chance to provide us with one. Trust me, they get many many opportunities, emails, warnings and quite enough time to sort this out. If they don't - they are usually moved up in Grey Zone. Both Grey Zone and Accredited sections are not set in stone for any of casinos. And this is also where your input is appreciated and welcome. But if you consider some casino shall be accredited just because it has great freebies - that's simply not enough reason. Don't automatically think they didn't pay us please. It's really rude comment.
There's certainly a good reason our partnership and relationship was broken or main requirements haven't been met and it doesn't have anything to do with money!

I don't like to compare, but just to give a better picture - many big and small affiliates nowadays charge big fees just to list some casino in the website, many of them even ask operators and managers themselves to write their own reviews. Many of them pay Google for ads. And that's terrible and of course 100% unfair to players.
We prepare and upload reviews completely free and write them too. We also ask you for the feedback and constructive suggestions while casino is in flames (BBF) - these suggestions are often taken seriously by this casino and improved during the process, so you can even consider yourself being part of making casinos better places.
Having good relationship and collaboration with some brand also means that only Casinomeister members can have certain privileges there, like competitions, better bonus, direct help and contact.. And that's a matter of good will and friendship with CM.
So that's why we appreciate these brands and teams more than ones who don't bother too much or at all. Logically.

Now, affiliate program. Same as you open account in casino, affiliates open account in affiliate program of casino.
Affiliate program shows that casino is open for partnering with affiliates. There are also T&C and some rules that cover this partnership and tell affiliates what they can expect from this collaboration and about brands this affiliate program represents.
Having account in affiliate program, provide affiliates with personal contact/manager, updates (that there's new bonus, that some country is excluded from now on or even that some casino is closing down - for example), materials like landing pages, images, special campaigns, statistics like number of players for a certain month - which is actually great, because for affiliate it can be a good feedback how their players liked this brand and a signal that we might pay attention to this brand and try getting even a better bonus/promo for players.
Casinos get list of the sites they work with, get stats, create special campaigns, notify partnering affiliates about what's new etc. - through affiliate program.
Simply, affiliate program is a default sign of being ready to connect with affiliates. So, casinos without affiliate program for affiliates/partners mean this casino is not ready or not open for any kind of collaboration. And why would these casinos have the same chances to be here as brands who are open and cooperative? I think it's more than generous that Casinomeister allows those kind of brands to be mentioned and discussed about in the forums or get any similar attention.

I know you'll say - put those in a Grey Zone, but Grey Zone is not bad as it may sound. This area is reserved for new brands who are still not tested by you and us, for brands which are alright, but missing to meet some important requirement or requirements, which were not interested in being thrown into fire for BBF or think they're not ready yet (or we think they're not ready yet because of for example big withdrawal limits)..
So, my opinion is why giving some brand without affiliate program to stand shoulder to shoulder to the rest of the Grey Zone brands. No affiliate program = no partnership and all our brands here are our partners in a way - liked the term or not.
Rogue pit is of course an exception and exists to warn you and prevent you from making mistakes and regretting your time and money.

All in all, everything goes through affiliate program.
 
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Supababe said:
I’m am so confused about my basic understanding of the site right now.

Fair-trusted-unbiased-supportive.

I think I totally misinterpreted the ‘philosophy’ when I decided to be active here.

“Casinomeister is a informational driven business. Casinomeister’s community, information, and services proceed any marketing and profit making ventures”

I figured you were a million miles away from the dodgy AG site where players are ‘tunnelled’ into signing up and affiliate link profits were the key driving force.

I appreciate that there are bills to pay and costs to cover and for that reason, always check for a CM link when I want to join a new casino.
Good Will = good Will doesn’t it?

Why is it that lately, any ‘black hat’ Questions or comments are seen as a negative or personal attack?
(See DeBono/leadership and management if you don’t know what I mean).
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The response to anything that appears to be viewed as a negative critique is nothing short of censorship with an extra dose of personal attack on the poster.
 
geordiecolin said:
The response to anything that appears to be viewed as a negative critique is nothing short of censorship with an extra dose of personal attack on the poster.
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you can't hardly call it censorship though, when whether the POV is agreed to or not, you're still free to post it....and at the end the post still stands

and all that aside, this isnt a backyard protest - its someone's site, just like FB, with its own rules
people never seem to get that freedom to speak isnt free of repercussions
 
dionysus said:
you can't hardly call it censorship though, when whether the POV is agreed to or not, you're still free to post it....and at the end the post still stands

and all that aside, this isnt a backyard protest - its someone's site, just like FB, with its own rules
people never seem to get that freedom to speak isnt free of repercussions
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Everyone can read the response to Colin's last post so I shall simply leave it there
 
LadyJelena said:
Oh dear. I somehow knew this is gonna escalate in a negative way and connotation.

There is still no operator who can pay to have a review up, to get into BBF, to be accredited, to be into picks or recommendations, to get complaint solved or even worse removed, to get out of the rogue pit. So please stop implying that Sky Vegas or whoever else didn't pay or didn't pay enough to be here or to be in Accredited section. Accredited casinos have to fulfill certain requirements which stand for years. Forum representative is surely one of the main ones and each accredited casino has a chance to provide us with one. Trust me, they get many many opportunities, emails, warnings and quite enough time to sort this out. If they don't - they are usually moved up in Grey Zone. Both Grey Zone and Accredited sections are not set in stone for any of casinos. And this is also where your input is appreciated and welcome. But if you consider some casino shall be accredited just because it has great freebies - that's simply not enough reason. Don't automatically think they didn't pay us please. It's really rude comment.
There's certainly a good reason our partnership and relationship was broken or main requirements haven't been met and it doesn't have anything to do with money!

I don't like to compare, but just to give a better picture - many big and small affiliates nowadays charge big fees just to list some casino in the website, many of them even ask operators and managers themselves to write their own reviews. Many of them pay Google for ads. And that's terrible and of course 100% unfair to players.
We prepare and upload reviews completely free and write them too. We also ask you for the feedback and constructive suggestions while casino is in flames (BBF) - these suggestions are often taken seriously by this casino and improved during the process, so you can even consider yourself being part of making casinos better places.
Having good relationship and collaboration with some brand also means that only Casinomeister members can have certain privileges there, like competitions, better bonus, direct help and contact.. And that's a matter of good will and friendship with CM.
So that's why we appreciate these brands and teams more than ones who don't bother too much or at all. Logically.

Now, affiliate program. Same as you open account in casino, affiliates open account in affiliate program of casino.
Affiliate program shows that casino is open for partnering with affiliates. There are also T&C and some rules that cover this partnership and tell affiliates what they can expect from this collaboration and about brands this affiliate program represents.
Having account in affiliate program, provide affiliates with updates (that there's new bonus, that some country is excluded from now on or even that some casino is closing down - for example), materials like landing pages, images, special campaigns, statistics like number of players for a certain month - which is actually great, because for affiliate it can be a good feedback how their players liked this brand and a signal that we might pay attention to this brand and try getting even a better bonus/promo for players.
Casinos get list of the sites they work with, get stats, create special campaigns, notify partnering affiliates about what's new etc. - through affiliate program.
Simply, affiliate program is a default sign of being ready to connect with affiliates. So, casinos without affiliate program for affiliates/partners mean this casino is not ready or not open for any kind of collaboration. And why would these casinos have the same chances to be here as brands who are open and cooperative? I think it's more than generous that Casinomeister allows those kind of brands to be mentioned and discussed about in the forums or get any similar attention.

I know you'll say - put those in a Grey Zone, but Grey Zone is not bad as it may sound. This area is reserved for new brands who are still not tested by you and us, for brands which are alright, but missing to meet some important requirement or requirements, which were not interested in being thrown into fire for BBF or think they're not ready yet (or we think they're not ready yet because of for example big withdrawal limits)..
So, my opinion is why giving some brand without affiliate program to stand shoulder to shoulder to the rest of the Grey Zone brands. No affiliate program = no partnership and all our brands here are our partners in a way - liked the term or not.
Rogue pit is of course an exception and exists to warn you and prevent you from making mistakes and regretting your time and money.

All in all, everything goes through affiliate program.
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From my understanding of what I read it was in no way an attack or intended to spiral in a negative way.
Putting aside the skyvegas thing it was more about the players in a community saying...here’s a site or two that a user rating would definitely be high for given our experiences. Perhaps you want to Persue them first before other casino forums do.
Which equals higher placings on google searches and more traffic etc etc etc

The first truely negative post I read was from Bryan himself but I guess ‘his site, his perogative’ x
 
Supababe said:
From my understanding of what I read it was in no way an attack or intended to spiral in a negative way.
Putting aside the skyvegas thing it was more about the players in a community saying...here’s a site or two that a user rating would definitely be high for given our experiences. Perhaps you want to Persue them first before other casino forums do.
Which equals higher placings on google searches and more traffic etc etc etc

The first truely negative post I read was from Bryan himself but I guess ‘his site, his perogative’ x
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Well, I'm sure Bryan adores to spice the things up! :D And we all know this is not his attitude or philosophy.

I just felt need to explain how things work nowadays (and always did), especially since there were some implications, presumptions or suppositions that Casinomeister is just another website who charges for everything that happens around which is faaaar away from truth.
 
Thanks for a more detailed explanation Jelena. Players still get a review for Rogued casinos, and there are literally thousands of casinos online, so you need to need to use your resources for Grey Zone ones that provide affiliate income.

I've seen a number of casinos over the years moved to the Rogue section for screwing affiliates. If they will screw the people helping them make money, it shows no ethics, or they are failing and and will end up at a point where payouts get longer and longer to come in, until they stop coming in at all. I don't want to play at those places, but nothing is stopping you as a player if you want to anyway.

It is not only players that are CM members, affiliates are too.
 
Casinomeister said:
@colinsunderland

Just a word of advice DO NOT harass my accounts manager. That is a sure fire way to get the boot from here. Jelena is only looking for ways to improve our reviews, which are a hell of a lot of work, and she doesn't need your bullshit passive aggressive posts.


What the f&^%? Skybet lost its Accreditation for no rep - and they then they ended up in the rogue pit. DO you want to advertise for them on your site? Go for it. But they are not listed here.



Yeah, I guess that's what I'll do. :rolleyes:

Or maybe I will just start disallowing affiliates from posting on my forum, eh?


Actually Colin is an affiliate and he can review Stakers and Skybet as much as he wants on his own websites. :p
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Don’t see any attack on anyone.
Also threatening to ban someone as they share a different view is akin to censoring what’s not wanted to be heard.
 
Jasminebed said:
Thanks for a more detailed explanation Jelena. Players still get a review for Rogued casinos, and there are literally thousands of casinos online, so you need to need to use your resources for Grey Zone ones that provide affiliate income.
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And these rogue reviews can't be even called reviews :) usual info fields are full of Bryan's jokes, like Deposit methods: Who cares :D
Their page exists only to warn, with particular reason in red letters.
 
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