Spinia ( N1 Entertainment) changing terms

" By the same analogy, Dr JC, you could call the likes of Videoslots, Trada, Guts, etc. also frauds as they accept Dutch players. Are you going to report them to the KSA perhaps?"

not by me, first mention of others.
 
Well maybe I'm a bit fired up at the moment, I'll cool off.

That sounds like an excellent idea. Please proceed as requested -- clearly stating your accusations and citing evidence -- when you feel you can do so calmly.
 
Oooh, Dr. JC, are you trying to shift the blame onto me? Perhaps you should report me as well, not to the KSA of course, but to the moderators of this forum??
 
ooh no, this is not blaming anyone. The admin reprimanded me for brining in other operations. I merely pointed to your post, and that I replied to that.
This is a public forum for discussion, and we are all grownups. Of course there are rules, but complaints/questions backed up by legit evidence, should be only followed by valid arguments that either explain, or debunk them. In the case of Trada: they can simply state that players from holland do play legal, and provide valid arguments. Why not share this good news with everyone?
 
@Oscar Arnhem I only gamble with money I can spare, its the game, winning not required. What I do care about is a fair game, provided by operations that show due diligence, for maximum player protections.

I'm not doing this for myself, but for other players in Holland. Please take note that these operations can void any winnings as you breach terms: get it?

"By accessing and opening an account and using this website, you confirm and warrant that online gambling is legal and permitted in the jurisdiction where you are located and you will not use the website while resident or temporarily located in any jurisdiction that prohibits use of the website"

And even if they would cash out, there is the risk of NL. government confiscating it.
 
@Oscar Arnhem I only gamble with money I can spare, its the game, winning not required. What I do care about is a fair game, provided by operations that show due diligence, for maximum player protections.

I'm not doing this for myself, but for other players in Holland. Please take note that these operations can void any winnings as you breach terms: get it?

"By accessing and opening an account and using this website, you confirm and warrant that online gambling is legal and permitted in the jurisdiction where you are located and you will not use the website while resident or temporarily located in any jurisdiction that prohibits use of the website"

And even if they would cash out, there is the risk of NL. government confiscating it.


just LOL
 
Hey folks,

I wish I could chime in on this one, but as this member has also raised an identical thread on a separate forum (Link can be supplied if it is allowed?) and they have received their final response on that platform, unfortunately, my hands are tied and I cannot make any other comments on this.

Conor
Dear Conor,
Regardless of my complaint, can you at least confirm the legality of play by Dutch accounts, with your Terms? This question can be raised by any other Dutch account, and in no reason what so ever, should be of concern to you if everything is in order. In fact providing this confirmation will only benefit you.
Pending lawsuit is not effected by this, as its stated in T&C
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6. Legal use
  1. You agree to use the Services only for lawful purposes and in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else's use and enjoyment of the Services.
  2. The Services are not provided for use by:
    1. Individuals under the legal age limit in the jurisdiction of their residence;
    2. Individuals under the legal gambling age in the jurisdiction of their residence or the country in which they are accessing the Website; or
    3. Individuals accessing the Website from jurisdictions that regard it to be illegal to do so.
 
Hello @jwholland !

I'm truly sorry for a late reply.

Currently, each company can decide - did they want to accept NL customers or not. We do not actively target customers from your target at the moment, we do not have any campaigns, we do not have NL website language, we do not offer customer support on NL (dutch, I know guys - sorry :D).

I've read all your transcripts with CS and I want to confirm we will not refund your losses. In case you win - we will pay your winnings without any troubles. That's the thing. If you trying to make this community support you in refunding of your losses - it's not the best community. People here can understand what happens.

P.S.#1 - Spinia team operated not my team.

P.S.#2 - It's my personal opinion (really personal). People like you make the whole industry much worse. Please, do not use statements like 'I'm trying to help other dutch players'. You don't. You just make things much worse for them. If you feel you have gambling problems - let me know or let CS casino team know - you will not be able to play in our casinos anymore.

P.S. #3 - if you feel something is wrong with us, please PAB:

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So far, Max is one of the best with dealing complaints and judging them completely honest. You will not have any better chance. Especially taking note that all other mediators discarded your complaint.

I really sorry for your troubles, but I can't see why we are blamed here.

Br,

V.
 
Hello @jwholland !

I'm truly sorry for a late reply.

Currently, each company can decide - did they want to accept NL customers or not. We do not actively target customers from your target at the moment, we do not have any campaigns, we do not have NL website language, we do not offer customer support on NL (dutch, I know guys - sorry :D).

I've read all your transcripts with CS and I want to confirm we will not refund your losses. In case you win - we will pay your winnings without any troubles. That's the thing. If you trying to make this community support you in refunding of your losses - it's not the best community. People here can understand what happens.

P.S.#1 - Spinia team operated not my team.

P.S.#2 - It's my personal opinion (really personal). People like you make the whole industry much worse. Please, do not use statements like 'I'm trying to help other dutch players'. You don't. You just make things much worse for them. If you feel you have gambling problems - let me know or let CS casino team know - you will not be able to play in our casinos anymore.

P.S. #3 - if you feel something is wrong with us, please PAB:

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So far, Max is one of the best with dealing complaints and judging them completely honest. You will not have any better chance. Especially taking note that all other mediators discarded your complaint.

I really sorry for your troubles, but I can't see why we are blamed here.

Br,

V.
Thank you so much for replying.
Insinuating a gambling addiction without knowing my account or me as a person is offensive. If you do have proof for that, please inform me so I can get help.

#1 Ok but can you speak for them? And if things are so transparent please list team involved, nothing to hide?
# 2 In what ways make my comments it worse for dutch players ? Please explain? You cannot ask questions? It should be no problem for you to debunk statements or anwser questions with valid arguments and references.

- Instead of calling me gambling addict, can you take a look at screenshots in primary post? Changing terms within identical dated version?
- How is every dutch account not in violation with your own terms below?
- Its surprising that you breach own terms, paying to dutch accounts, knowing this is restricted, should not even be possible in the first place.
- Players from Holland are at risk of facing criminal charges by district authority ( OM) if playing at illegal casino.

"By accessing and opening an account and using this website, you confirm and warrant that online gambling is legal and permitted in the jurisdiction where you are located and you will not use the website while resident or temporarily located in any jurisdiction that prohibits use of the website.

- And I do not want a refund, eat if for breakfast, next to your pint of vodka probably.

#3 Yes I DM'd max, but to be clear already submitted to NL gambling authorise, MGA has been in the loop the whole time, and it does not stop after that.

And I'm not blaming people, just asking questions, should be of no concerns.

Can you please reply to the questions?
 
P.S.#2 - It's my personal opinion (really personal). People like you make the whole industry much worse. Please, do not use statements like 'I'm trying to help other dutch players'. You don't. You just make things much worse for them. If you feel you have gambling problems - let me know or let CS casino team know - you will not be able to play in our casinos anymore.

I'm blamed for making it worse for dutch players, followed by the question if I have a gambling problem? How does this relate?

let him answer the questions, instead of diverting from.
 
BTW, I have reported Dr JC to MaxD, requesting him to ban this member. I strongly believe he's a troll (pretending to be a good-doer).
 
Max can contact me, for full personal ID ect no problem. Account matches them.
@Mouche12 please show the evidence why you suspect me of being troll? As you make this statement?
 
Okay, the category you fall into is:

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Problem is I do exist, can show proof of that, to MaxD no problem.
I'm asking the wrong questions obviously?
Never been convicted of anything, and are more then happy to provide arguments of additional evidence for my remarks. Verified by the admins, not problem, nothing to hide.

And if my concerns can be debunked, perfect, we learn every day
 

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