Gossip and Rumours Someone on the accredited list is leaking information

Information of a highly dubious nature, possibly outright BS.
Someone on the accredited list is leaking information, thus breaking the law. ...
Serious accusation you’ve dropped there, care to elaborate? Or you could PM me via @maxd if you prefer the privacy approach.

The point being that posting something like this without any details or supporting evidence is like saying “there are aliens among us” and walking out of the room: interesting, maybe, but useless without more info.

- Max
 
Someone on the accredited list is leaking information, thus breaking the law.

I'll just leave this here.
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Serious accusation you’ve dropped there, care to elaborate? Or you could PM me via @maxd if you prefer the privacy approach.

The point being that posting something like this without any details or supporting evidence is like saying “there are aliens among us” and walking out of the room: interesting, maybe, but useless without more info.

- Max
They’re eating the dogs! Facts don't matter in today's world.
 
Serious accusation you’ve dropped there, care to elaborate? Or you could PM me via @maxd if you prefer the privacy approach.

The point being that posting something like this without any details or supporting evidence is like saying “there are aliens among us” and walking out of the room: interesting, maybe, but useless without more info.

- Max
Noted. In a world seeing upto 30,000 children die in a day and gambling suicides being taboo too, I'm gonna keep quiet and let the ish hit the fan, if it ever does.

Some things in the gambling industry haven't changed. At all.

I mean, you can get your casino fully accredited on here and treat customers like crap with no one officially batting an eyelid.

So while I am a lesser mortal.... and please, try not to ban me to prove the point.
 
Ban you? For what? I’m curious to follow up on what’s bothering you. I do wish you’d offer more info — especially on this "accredited on here and treat customers like crap with no one officially batting an eyelid” stuff — but I respect your wish to keep your head down. I guess we’ll see it when we see it.

Oh, BTW, there are no “lesser mortals”, we’re all grist for the mill of time in the end. Semper Fi brother.

- Max
 
Well, I think he’s saying one of the accredited casinos/groups/their staff is selling customer information without consent.

It’s definitely happened in the past, but really if there is a suspicion and it can be backed up, it’s worth reporting it to the relevant authorities.
 
I deliberately wrote the thread this way. CM response :
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but when a highly accredited casino stands among people and other companies who know how you should treat people and pretend their ish doesn't stink... CM response :

My job aside from coming back and checking on this, is done here.

#disappointed.
 
I deliberately wrote the thread this way. CM response :
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but when a highly accredited casino stands among people and other companies who know how you should treat people and pretend their ish doesn't stink... CM response :

My job aside from coming back and checking on this, is done here.

#disappointed.
No one said that. Max has offered his DM Box to send the info to. I am also making the same offer. Intrigued and interest piqued!
 
I deliberately wrote the thread this way. CM response :
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but when a highly accredited casino stands among people and other companies who know how you should treat people and pretend their ish doesn't stink... CM response :

My job aside from coming back and checking on this, is done here.

#disappointed.
I’m genuinely interested in your story too, but you’ve announced your departure a couple of times now and I’m wondering what your actual motivation is? How did the Gamstop signup go?

Mark
 
Ban you? For what? I’m curious to follow up on what’s bothering you. I do wish you’d offer more info — especially on this "accredited on here and treat customers like crap with no one officially batting an eyelid” stuff — but I respect your wish to keep your head down. I guess we’ll see it when we see it.

Oh, BTW, there are no “lesser mortals”, we’re all grist for the mill of time in the end. Semper Fi brother.

- Max
Looks like he had a semi meltdown with @L&L-Jan and the meltdown is carrying on elsewhere on the forum now. Check his post history
 
Looks like he had a semi meltdown with @L&L-Jan and the meltdown is carrying on elsewhere on the forum now. Check his post history
Focus on L&L / Pub Casino actions and lack of actions to put matters right, not my raison d'etre, thank you. Before you crossthread and start a fire.

This is a multi billion pound industry, not school yard attitudes and I for one am not about to let any corporate be considered more important than anyone. Or lesser mortals.

Already predicted : So, we've gone from turning a blind eye, into shooting the messenger.
 
Well, I think he’s saying one of the accredited casinos/groups/their staff is selling customer information without consent.

It’s definitely happened in the past, but really if there is a suspicion and it can be backed up, it’s worth reporting it to the relevant authorities.
We're too busy turning a blind eye to bad things here.
 
Focus on L&L / Pub Casino actions and lack of actions to put matters right, not my raison d'etre, thank you. Before you crossthread and start a fire.

This is a multi billion pound industry, not school yard attitudes and I for one am not about to let any corporate be considered more important than anyone. Or lesser mortals.

Already predicted : So, we've gone from turning a blind eye, into shooting the messenger.
Apologies and I mean this genuinely.

Firstly you’re accusing a rep of leaking data. That would not be condoned and if you can provide evidence I know the forum moderators who I know and trust will deal with that.

However. I refer you back to my question. What’s your motivation here? You said you’ve resubscribed to Gamstop and given up?

Lastly you replied to @Webzcas to say you know how Lottomart reactivation from Gamstop is. I’ll be openly honest and say it’s not great because our systems see the flag and it’s not a simple process to overrule. In my previous business this was also the case. But just to confirm you’ve reactivated from Gamstop, had a bad experience with a couple of business and now looking to Gamstop again?

We have people you can talk to if you want any assistance but generally we would refer you to Gamcare and other establishments who are better trained in how they can help across the board rather than just with us. But please buddy from my own personal opinion of your posts, please do something to stop gambling.

Please PM me if you want to rant privately too. I don’t mind that.

Best wishes.
Mark
 
No one said that. Max has offered his DM Box to send the info to. I am also making the same offer. Intrigued and interest piqued!
I said it. It happened. Tell me something, if I responded to something important you said, with something highly disrespectful like "Are you a crack head?" what would the consequences be ?
Apologies and I mean this genuinely.

Firstly you’re accusing a rep of leaking data. That would not be condoned and if you can provide evidence I know the forum moderators who I know and trust will deal with that.

However. I refer you back to my question. What’s your motivation here? You said you’ve resubscribed to Gamstop and given up?

Lastly you replied to @Webzcas to say you know how Lottomart reactivation from Gamstop is. I’ll be openly honest and say it’s not great because our systems see the flag and it’s not a simple process to overrule. In my previous business this was also the case. But just to confirm you’ve reactivated from Gamstop, had a bad experience with a couple of business and now looking to Gamstop again?

We have people you can talk to if you want any assistance but generally we would refer you to Gamcare and other establishments who are better trained in how they can help across the board rather than just with us. But please buddy from my own personal opinion of your posts, please do something to stop gambling.

Please PM me if you want to rant privately too. I don’t mind that.

Best wishes.
Mark
I haven't made a complaint about Lottomart. There's a seemingly (logically to me) very valid reason for that. FYI - my gambling isn't at question here. I have made it very clear in a few separate threads what the issues were and who were willing to sort theirs and who have no intentions of putting things right. At no time have I any intentions of raising a complaint with you because I have no complaint to raise.

L&L / Pub Casino on the other hand....
 
I said it. It happened. Tell me something, if I responded to something important you said, with something highly disrespectful like "Are you a crack head?" what would the consequences be ?

I haven't made a complaint about Lottomart. There's a seemingly (logically to me) very valid reason for that. FYI - my gambling isn't at question here. I have made it very clear in a few separate threads what the issues were and who were willing to sort theirs and who have no intentions of putting things right. At no time have I any intentions of raising a complaint with you because I have no complaint to raise.

L&L / Pub Casino on the other hand....
I didn’t say you’d made a complaint about Lottomart. You’ve ignored my other question about what you’re trying to achieve. You mention compensation a few times in your threads but also say you’ve once again Gamstopped. It doesn’t really make any sense.

That said, I should really avoid commenting on threads which don’t directly affect my company but sometimes I have to ask questions!

Again, best wishes. I’m out of this convo!
 
... I'm gonna keep quiet and let the ish hit the fan ...
So while I am a lesser mortal.... and please, try not to ban me to prove the point.
... I for one am not about to let any corporate be considered more important than anyone. Or lesser mortals.
We're too busy turning a blind eye to bad things here.
... if I responded to something important you said, with something highly disrespectful like "Are you a crack head?" what would the consequences be ?

Well, I for one am finding all this “I can’t talk about it but I have many dark forebodings to share” a bit tiresome.

Judging from the quotes you’ve dropped I suspect you’ve been referring to something I dealt with in a manner that proved unsatisfying to you. Ok then, spit it out, what are you on about?

State your business man! Then we can finally discuss what has obviously been your point here from the beginning. Please stop wasting everyone's time with this totally unnecessary shadows-and-mirrors stuff.

- Max
 
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The problem comes down to the fact he had to spend time dealing with pub casino and he never got compensated for the time.

By looking at way he goes on in this thread and his dealings with chat i wouldn't have dealt with him either.

Comes across like a spoilt little brat that spits his dummy out when things don't go exactly the way he wants.
 
I'm not as clever as many.
But when you work around advocates, managers, owners, developers. People......talk.
But we are mostly pretty clever that there is a 'stop gap'...there is IP; we talk around work, not share work product.
 
I echo what Max says above. This forum is not an episode of the 1960's Batman TV Programme starring Adam West, with Guest Villain The Riddler. I do not have the time to start following a treasure hunt trail of riddles to get to the point.

Just please state what the actual issue is here in this thread and then we can deal with it appropriately. If indeed there is any action that requires taking.

Thanks :)
 
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The problem comes down to the fact he had to spend time dealing with pub casino and he never got compensated for the time.
Neither did we
 
Neither did we
Just in case you took my post wrong. I wasn't implying that he should have got anything quite the opposite as no way I'd have gave anything the way he acts.

By saying that's the problem I was meaning that's why he's going on. Sky gave him something you never which he's hinted several times he expected it so now he's acting like this.
 
And there ends the whole ordeal. I are the lesser mortal.
Of course not, told you to reach out when I can help.
 
Not sure about the cloak & dagger secrecy and inferred collusion when it's pretty much assured that casinos hawk personal information about.

The notion that casinos perched on a subjective Accreditation list are somehow squeaky clean in this regard is what's puzzling, when many businesses see this as an added money-spinner and likely don't even see this as a problem. And naturally, even the sacrosanct 'Accredited' casinos will do this - perhaps not all, but certainly *some*....

Hell, even had the World Horse Welfare charity peddle customers' info on Social Media and the likes, and they even had the gall to inform sponsors of this fact, which was very kind of them, the cheeky f***ers :eek:
 
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Not sure about the cloak & dagger secrecy and inferred collusion when it's pretty much assured that casinos hawk personal information about.

The notion that casinos perched on a subjective Accreditation list are somehow squeaky clean in this regard is what's puzzling, when many businesses see this as an added money-spinner and likely don't even see this as a problem. And naturally, even the sacrosanct 'Accredited' casinos will do this - perhaps not all, but certainly *some*....

Hell, even had the World Horse Welfare charity peddle customers' info on Social Media and the likes, and they even had the gall to inform sponsors of this fact, which was very kind of them, the cheeky f***ers :eek:
I'd like to think more of them care but clearly there is a certain toxicity inherent with working in the industry. If you aint one of them, you aint even remotely worthy.

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I didn't have a problem with Lottomart, even butting their head in but now you see the real deal. They find it funny. None of it's funny. The trolling aint funny, the ignorance aint funny but far be it from me to show them where they are going wrong and they improve which leads to them being seen in a better light.

I suppose if you can be ok with taking money off even the poorest of people and not caring if you are destroying families and living off the back of gambling suicide then you aint gonna care a damn about wasting peoples time and mocking them on a forum.

My heart goes out to those who do lose. Get scammed, die, lose their family while the whole industry pretends it cares. You only have to spend enough time in a landbase to find out how much addiction while in poverty is keeping the places open.

So much for the lesser mortals. But one day, these people will learn.
 

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