Show me the Money Screenshots (Min 1000xBet)

[ChopleyIOM]

I am prepared to believe rolastan but at the same time there has to be an explanation for how a player can be in profit on a random game with a 3.2% house edge after a sample size of 600K spins (or thereabouts).

Bonus play doesn't explain it, assuming usual WRs in the range of 30-40x bonus (for reference, a 20x bonus is EV neutral on a 95% RTP slot, you'd expect to get your deposit back after meeting wagering).

I hate to call shenanigans and don my tinfoil hat, but DoA is getting me very close to that sort of territory.

 

[rolastan]

Have you had bad times with the balance fallen down for days/weeks (or months) or have you always been in positive?
You mainly play bonuses so sometimes 5 wilds could be not enough to complete wagering requirements. Do you usually complete the most of them, half of them or only some of them?

I could say that i complete 70-80% of my bonuses.
Also i play at casinos where wagering requirements are 10-20 d+b
Of course there are bad days for me also but I my bet size is not big so losses are also not big.

 

[Cleveland]

I think Rolastan = Netent and try to show us how easy it is to hit big on this slot.

Yeah right.

Sorry I don't believe you anymore Rolastan.
Just because of my own experience with this slot and stories from others.
What you show us each time,keep hitting the big wins on this slot is nearly impossible.
It's like the same player win the lotto 10 times in a row.
0,00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% probability you keep hitting them 5 wilds on 1 line.

If you are sincere then Netent sucks because it seems the same players keep hitting the biggies while other never see one in their entire gambling carreer.

I've long since stop believing the post. People of course will say "why would he" do x. I don't know, but it's no different than the guy who wanted us to think he won that million+ dollar jackpot. It's possible to win the lottery back to back, many things are possible in life when you add in randomness, but something doesn't smell right in this thread. I have no horse in this race as I can't play the slot anyway. Just my random observation.

 

[rolastan]

Doa pays again 44

2 wildlines
bgo.com

 

[homerbert]

2 wildlines
bgo.com

YOU FROM NETENT WE DONT BELIEVE YOU WHY YOU COME HERE NETENT AND DOING THIS, WHY U RUIN OUR LIFESSSSSSSSSSSS
joking like always, wtg rolastan aka the king of DOA

 

[zreb]

Never underestimate high variance slots. I've seen it listed elsewhere that the variance on the slot Isis is somewhere around 10x wager value. Assuming the standard deviation for DOA is a similar 10x, the chance of coming out ahead over 600,000 spins should be around 1/200 - and that's not counting bonuses, which could make an enormous difference.

It isn't really that surprising that there would be a few players around that hit such an amazing run of luck - given the sheer number of players out there, there's always someone. A better way to figure out whether something looks out of line would be to compare the number of 1000x+ wins to the number of spins, since that may give you something much more improbable, if someone feels like adding those all up. You'll still have a lot of estimating to do though.

What surprises me is Rolastan having a 70-80% completion rate on bonuses, I would have thought it would be more like 25% playing DoA.

 

[xxshepxx]

I've pumped DOA

I get bored at sites and exclude, after 1000's in.

Never had 5 line of wilds, never had the extra 5 spins.

I have however had 5 scatters, at allbritishcasino a while back.

 

[kazzi]

So 2 times in under 24hrs impressive once again whats the % of hitting it 2times in 24hrs? lol :O

 

[Mozaik]

So 2 times in under 24hrs impressive once again whats the % of hitting it 2times in 24hrs? lol :O

Hey, you're from a Nordic country! Where is your DOA 5-wilds screenshot?

 

[tinybettor]

2 wildlines
bgo.com

This is absolutely insanity! Can you tell me if you ever had a session where you lost more than your last big win to achieve your next big win? Also would you say you play this slot full-time or more casually?

 

[nisosbar]

Rolastan, as you can see here, it's probably a bad idea to continue posting these screenshots - people are not appreciating it; to the contrary, it's making people envious, seriously to a bad degree. If I were you, honestly, I would stop. JMHO. Peace.

 

[Cleveland]

Rolastan, as you can see here, it's probably a bad idea to continue posting these screenshots - people are not appreciating it; to the contrary, it's making people envious, seriously to a bad degree. If I were you, honestly, I would stop. JMHO. Peace.

I don't think anyone in the thread is being envious. I for one responded to another's post. Sorry I don't believe everything told to me. I know it's possible for something to happen but if you told me you won the mega millions lottery back to back 44 times in a row yes I will have to say I don't believe you. I'm sure given enough time that their is a chance one day that would happen. But by the nature of who I am....I just don't believe it. Nothing to do with being jealous or envious.

Some people are gullible and let the strange man into the home to use the phone. Me not so much. (Yes I love analogys). Why should he stop posting? If they are real they are real. Some just dont believe.

 

[tinybettor]

No jealousy here, just in awe at one person's incredible luck, so by all means Rolastan, please continue to post! I am definitely enjoying your screenies and hope you'll be the one to achieve all wildlines!

 

[Blathaon]

Rolastan, as you can see here, it's probably a bad idea to continue posting these screenshots - people are not appreciating it; to the contrary, it's making people envious, seriously to a bad degree. If I were you, honestly, I would stop. JMHO. Peace.

I for one do appreciate his screenshots, honestly if people get upset over slot screenshots then they can't have much to worry about.

It's perfectly fine to be skeptical and have a discussion about the game, and how the wins are achieved. But some people even suggest that he is cheating or posting fakes.
I guess they also think my DoA screenshots, statistics and videos are fake then?

 

[Cleveland]

I for one do appreciate his screenshots, honestly if people get upset over slot screenshots then they can't have much too worry about.

It's perfectly fine to be skeptical and have a discussion about the game, and how the wins are achieved. But some people even suggest that he is cheating or posting fakes.
I guess they also think my DoA screenshots, statistics and videos are fake then?

It wouldn't be the first time (the posting fakes).

In terms of cheating I'm not sure how that would be possible. I would think the casinos would have long since caught on.

 

[Blathaon]

It wouldn't be the first time (the posting fakes).

In terms of cheating I'm not sure how that would be possible. I would think the casinos would have long since caught on.

Sure but you don't think that both me, rolastan, Nate and the others posting several DoA screenshots here would have been banned from the forum long ago if this was the case?

I make it a point always to include the casino logo/name in my screenshots. And most of my wins have been at casinos with reps here, they even WTG the screenshots. You don't think that they would have reported it to Bryan if it were indeed fake screenshots?

I do not believe everything i see or read, but there has to be a reasonable limit to the suspicion. If need be the casino reps can confirm the wins, heck i can provide bank statements, skrill logs or whatever.

The simple fact is that this is an incredible high variance game, and with bonus play and luck it is possible to be ahead, at least for a time ( i do not think it possible to beat the game on a permanent basis). And maybe there is something wrong with the game who knows, unless NetEnt are willing to comment then we won't know the true odds of hitting wins like this.

 

[chuchu59]

I don't mind Rolastan's screenies. Conversely, the more the merrier. What I don't want to see though is Rolastan getting too eager to exceed his DOA exploits like the member who used to post big wins at Scary Rich(Rival). In the end, he had to quit for gambling too excessively.

 

[Cleveland]

Sure but you don't think that both me, rolastan, Nate and the others posting several DoA screenshots here would have been banned from the forum long ago if this was the case?

I make it a point always to include the casino logo/name in my screenshots. And most of my wins have been at casinos with reps here, they even WTG the screenshots. You don't think that they would have reported it to Bryan if it were indeed fake screenshots?

I do not believe everything i see or read, but there has to be a reasonable limit to the suspicion. If need be the casino reps can confirm the wins, heck i can provide bank statements, skrill logs or whatever.

The simple fact is that this is an incredible high variance game, and with bonus play and luck it is possible to be ahead, at least for a time ( i do not think it possible to beat the game on a permanent basis). And maybe there is something wrong with the game who knows, unless NetEnt are willing to comment then we won't know the true odds of hitting wins like this.

I'll try to sum my stance up as best as possible although as I said earlier I was merely responding to another persons post....I don't have a dog in this fight as I can't play the game anyway.

People see an excess of screen shots coming from rolastan on a very high variance slot. Something makes those people think that's odd or strange. Even you have now said perhaps something might be wrong with the game (i know thats not how you meant it). Either way something just feels weird. Maybe it's a very lucky winning streak. Who really cares? While many are saying its odd but great...I'm merely saying I don't believe them (the screen shots). Another poster said he didn't believe them and I responded agreeing. 44 hits from one poster over 1k times bet in such a small time frame....yea sorry but my opinion is just that.

What's so wrong with that? ^

Recently a long term member of the forums was accused of fraud by a casino known to defraud players. Look how that turned out. Funny how quick we forget. Point is people lie. people do cheat. and most importantly people are human. I'm not a very trusting person. no big deal. i merely was agreeing with another forum member.

Not seeing why this has to turn into some big issue.

 

[Cleveland]

I'm not on my computer but will try to report post or something later but perhaps this now large derail can be given its on thread in order to clean up the screen shot thread.

 

[Blathaon]

I'll try to sum my stance up as best as possible although as I said earlier I was merely responding to another persons post....I don't have a dog in this fight as I can't play the game anyway.

People see an excess of screen shots coming from rolastan on a very high variance slot. Something makes those people think that's odd or strange. Even you have now said perhaps something might be wrong with the game (i know thats not how you meant it). Either way something just feels weird. Maybe it's a very lucky winning streak. Who really cares? While many are saying its odd but great...I'm merely saying I don't believe them (the screen shots). Another poster said he didn't believe them and I responded agreeing. 44 hits from one poster over 1k times bet in such a small time frame....yea sorry but my opinion is just that.

What's so wrong with that? ^

Recently a long term member of the forums was accused of fraud by a casino known to defraud players. Look how that turned out. Funny how quick we forget. Point is people lie. people do cheat. and most importantly people are human. I'm not a very trusting person. no big deal. i merely was agreeing with another forum member.

Not seeing why this has to turn into some big issue.

Well if you don't believe his screenshots, then by extension you don't believe mine either i guess, since i have posted quite a few DoA screenshots. In contrast to most screenshots posted here, i have provided videos of many of my DoA wins, as well as the DoA statistics thread.

I cannot rule out that others aren't posting fakes, but i have no reason to believe so.

As i said it's fine to be skeptical. I cannot prove that there isn't something wrong with the game, although i personally don't think so.

And of course there will always be liars and frauds, that doesn't mean that everyone is one.

 

[Cleveland]

Well if you don't believe his screenshots, then by extension you don't believe mine either i guess, since i have posted quite a few DoA screenshots. In contrast to most screenshots posted here, i have provided videos of many of my DoA wins, as well as the DoA statistics thread.

I cannot rule out that others aren't posting fakes, but i have no reason to believe so.

As i said it's fine to be skeptical. I cannot prove that there isn't something wrong with the game, although i personally don't think so.

And of course there will always be liars and frauds, that doesn't mean that everyone is one.

I'm not sure how many screens you posted. Only reason I "think" I know his is because he is numbering them. Unless he is counting all DoA screenshots of 1kx bet. People have said how rare these hits are for one person. So if people are surprised when they see one person post 5 of these screen shots, why wouldn't that surprise turn to suspicion when someone claims 44 of them in a short time span? It's a natural response.

I've derailed this thread long enough. Feel free to pm me or start a new thread if you wish to continue this. Don't mean this to be rude but I know I have a habit of continuing my responses and this is meant to be a screen thread.

 

[Blathaon]

I'm not sure how many screens you posted. Only reason I "think" I know his is because he is numbering them. Unless he is counting all DoA screenshots of 1kx bet. People have said how rare these hits are for one person. So if people are surprised when they see one person post 5 of these screen shots, why wouldn't that surprise turn to suspicion when someone claims 44 of them in a short time span? It's a natural response.

I've derailed this thread long enough. Feel free to pm me or start a new thread if you wish to continue this. Don't mean this to be rude but I know I have a habit of continuing my responses and this is meant to be a screen thread.

Sure but then you apparently have not been following the discussion, he have explained that the does around 20k spins a week.
I have logged 3441 features, with 25 of those paying 1000xBet or more, so his stats pretty much match mine. I know that i am in profit on the game, so obviously i have had better than average luck combined with using bonuses, so has he, he have been doing it a lot longer, hence the amount of screenshots.

Now i can't explain WHY i am getting this good a return on the game, but i have explained HOW.

So most suspicions/questions have been answered here and in the DoA stats thread. The continued discussion lately have been as to whether free play and real play work the same way , since Chopley and Dunover have had extremely poor stats while testing.

Now the reason i felt like i had to respond is that by saying that you don't believe the screenshots, you are in effect calling both him and me liars, hopefully this clears it up.

 

[biemme]

I believe that Rolastan winnings are real. It's interesting that he admits to have played to other popular slots without luck. I'm starting thinking to look at his posts without a logic/rational explanation. It could be an effect of his strong will and addiction concentrated on this game. Playing two casinos at the same time is not usual and near an excessive addiction. Luck could end. I remember a collegue that can win for months on sport bets with an incredible positive trend. But i've seen the end of that. It happens.

 

[Nate]

Guys - Why are we even questioning the guy for sharing his screenies?

I for one have hit tons of 1000x hits on DOA (So has Tirilej, Rainmaker, Osloking, Blathaon, RespinFTW and many more) - I have not even posted the vast majority of them. I don't even take screenshots of wins less than 1000x.

I have been in profit several times on DOA - IRC at some stage this year I was 13k in the positive at Redbet - Andy will attest to that.

DOA has good and bad runs - I have had my share of hitting 5 wilds and losing huge balances. Its the same for all players.

I have had 5 wilds 5 times in a row - Hitting, logging in to another casino and hitting again (It's posted somewhere here in the thread)

I have hit 2000x +++ more than once in a day too, and there have been periods where I cannot win a thing. Its easy to go a month without seeing 5 wilds on a line and I play DOA now 98% of the time. When your sample size increases, its a whole new ball game - Bankroll and Time is key.

People taking tiny samples and basing this on how frequent DOA pays is ludicrous

This post is somewhat old, but it will give you an idea - I haven't updated my screenshots for a while, and my new biggest hit is somewhere in the 5400x range...

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Nate

 

[peezo13]

trouble uploading screenshots

Could anyone tell me why i get the message 'undefined' when trying to upload a screenshot??

Thanks