RTG New Games are a Joke!

Please note: The following occured while I was taking a five - ten minute break from my ICE special report newsletter. It's not like I'm sitting here goofing off. :D

I'll have to thrown in my two cents here - I have done exceptionally well today at iNetbet playing slots. I was goofing around with some of the newest ones when I downloaded Treasure Hunt. I had a $200 balance and began making $10 spins sometimes upping it to $20 if my balance could afford it. Within a few minutes I hit the bonus round at $10 a spin. The bonus gave me four chests to choose from which came to 5 free spins and about $150 in cash.

Not bad for a prelude to the free spins. The five free spins totaled around $400 - so I cashed out $400 and went back in.

Now I played at $20 a pop - and within a few minutes I hit the bonus round again. This time I got to choose four treasure chests. The first three gave me five free spins each, and the last chest gave me........$2000!

Can you believe this? I was speechless. So I did the free spins, they totaled around $500 (not so hot) but I cashed out an additional $2500. How cool.

So the "win" switch is back on at RTG :thumbsup:
 
And Who knows your Acct at RTG#?

CM, all due respect...I do believe you hit these and I also believe they got your # (account number that is) :lolup:

Sad to say, :( I really enjoyed Inetbet games till they introduced the new ones, and it was getting hard already to hit the bonus rounds on the old ones but I persevered and kept playing cause I DID like the games and the HOPE was already present from the bonus hits of earlier times.

IMHO, Now, with the new games, a good bonus round is totally unobtainable for the average player like me ,($2 bet per spin person) on almost all the bonus games, and not just at Inetbet, it's all of them and again, thats just my opinion, after investing almost $3000+ in RTG bonus games at $2 a bet.
 
silcnlayc said:
CM, all due respect...I do believe you hit these and I also believe they got your # (account number that is) :lolup:

Sad to say, :( I really enjoyed Inetbet games till they introduced the new ones, and it was getting hard already to hit the bonus rounds on the old ones but I persevered and kept playing cause I DID like the games and the HOPE was already present from the bonus hits of earlier times.

IMHO, Now, with the new games, a good bonus round is totally unobtainable for the average player like me ,($2 bet per spin person) on almost all the bonus games, and not just at Inetbet, it's all of them and again, thats just my opinion, after investing almost $3000+ in RTG bonus games at $2 a bet.

I'm going to throw my two cents (literally) in here: I play at Inetbet (PickEmPoker is my favorite) but I tried Cleo when I was down to less than two dollars. Wagered 20 cents a spin and hit bonus round which retriggered twice. Bumped me up to $25 (and off I go to VP!) I can certainly be considered an average player at Inetbet (but would not go near many other RTGs for obvious reasons).
 
Amazingly enough, it took about an half hour for this to hit my Neteller account, and no I'm not a VIP player there. Please note - no bonus was used.
 
Pure Garbage

CM said: So the "win" switch is back on at RTG
I stand by what I feel. The RTG's have become pure garbage since the introduction of the new games. The old ones have gone to garbage too. I gave in to play the slot junkies tourney and decided to go back and give it the old "college try" just once more...

Four deposits later (avg $100 each different times at $1-$2 a spin)...not one bonus round....Still garbage IMO. :mad:

Only way I will play there ever again will be with free money or in the "play" mode, for I am not willing to be bored to death and pay for it too....for what good is "instant" withdrawal" when there is nothing to withdraw? Nothing from nothing is still nothing in my book...:eek: :eek2:
 
3+ Months.....have passed and a New Review to do!

I uninstalled in January..
says new games are out...went and downloaded...went to test them under play mode and hit one bonus round...made me wonder...hmmm could it be? Have they really listened to what players are saying......4 hours later..hit 1 more bonus round in real money mode) ..woopeee.....here comes the uninstall button once again..Done!

Honey to Bees is exactly as Cesears is but with the bonus round non existent entire time for over an hour...quit ..couldn't get the hive on 5th reel EVER..

Went to Golden Glove....hit the one and only bonus round...interesting..but why bother playing if it comes around once every hour or so?

The other 3....wasted effort...got to hit the bonus reels 1-3-5 on 2 of them...yea right...the 3rd one you have to hit on first three reels such as the Robin Hood game..geezes....enough repeats....make a REAL new game.. that actually is entertaining and EXCITING...

Going back to Loaded and Isis and Avalon...best games yet...when you hit...you know it....and you know it more than once in a session, unlike RTG's...Once in a BLUE MOON...:lolup:
 
phynqster said:
Yes, I said that the RTG's could change the payout %, but that was on the older slots. I left shortly after Cleo came out. I have no idea what control the properties have now.

it would be good to confirm this if true? how 'bout reps from casinos running RTG? anyone care to confirm or deny this?

i've only seen the payout tables from one RTG and it shows their slots have been considerably more stingy in the past 2 years. What up wit dat, yo?

i've played very little RTG slots, but after reading this thread I'd almost rather take my chances on the doubling game at English Harbor.
 
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silcnlayc said:
Honey to Bees is exactly as Cesears is but with the bonus round non existent entire time for over an hour...quit ..couldn't get the hive on 5th reel EVER..

Went to Golden Glove....hit the one and only bonus round...interesting..but why bother playing if it comes around once every hour or so?

The other 3....wasted effort...got to hit the bonus reels 1-3-5 on 2 of them...yea right...the 3rd one you have to hit on first three reels such as the Robin Hood game..geezes....enough repeats....make a REAL new game.. that actually is entertaining and EXCITING...
And I thought it was just me too!
When I first played these slots they were pretty good - but now? Jeeeeze they are boring (NO decent hits at all), and tighter than a duck's rear end. I've actually forgotten what happens in some of the feature rounds, it's been so long since I got one... :mad: :axeman:
 
First of all I must say that the RTG slots are very innovative and they do have a lot of slots with fundamentally different bonus games. So I think they do match MG in the ideas behind the different bonus games. The smoothness/graphics/sounds of MG is better though.

I believe I have only tried the RTG slot after they stopped paying... So I totally agree. My favorite was also Ceasars. It is funny to try to keep the feature game alive, but with low paytables and multiplier, the wins was always way too small. I even managed to have 35 free spins banked once, but it still didnt pay much anything remarkable.

Ceasars reminded me of one the first real 5-reel slots (not virtual) slots I found in Australia where this kind of 5 reel slots was called 'Pookies' (or close). No idea why or what it means though. However one of the games was somehow similar to Caesars. It had some western theme with a sheriff and a bad guy. I would not be suprised if the name of the slot was 'Desperado' or something like that. It had the excacly same way to keep the feature game alive by adding one or more freespins whenever a special symbol occoured during the feature. But when this happened the multiplier increased. If you got the same symbol somwewhere in the next spin, then the multiplier would increase again (you still also got another free spin added). If you missed the symbol, then the multiplier would decrease again. I think you could boost the multiplier to *7 or *9 this way.If you got 5 of these symbols during freespins you would have 50 more free spins added, which I remember since I hit that. This made the free spin game even more exciting and I actually miss this game. It was 4 years ago, so I am not that impressed with the online slots.

Anyway... After 30+ feature games(I never play slots without a 100% bonus, and even with that I have EV<0) at RTG casinos and not a single one paying anything remarkable I totally agree with this
thread.

Zoozie
 
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RTGs

I have been playing Aztec's Treasure game extensively, and I too echo the overwhelming sentiment here. I usually deposit $50 at a time (bodog is the only RTG I play), and the most I have ever been "up" is around $400, betting $1 or 2$ spin. I was up this colosus amount of money, even after hitting the 5 idols and receiving the 25 free spins. I received $100 for the 5 idols, and after the 25 spins, my bonus spins total was only around $130!!!!! Not exactly the "jackpot" that one would imagine for such a hit. I think it may be time to move on to something else. To tell you the truth, MG hasn't been all that great of late either. I love to play the mermaid millions game, but it seems to give similial results. Feel like I am born to lose lately!!!!
 
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I have been playing Aztec's Treasure game extensively, and I too echo the overwhelming sentiment here. I usually deposit $50 at a time (bodog is the only RTG I play), and the most I have ever been "up" is around $400, betting $1 or 2$ spin. I was up this colosus amount of money, even after hitting the 5 idols and receiving the 25 free spins. I received $100 for the 5 idols, and after the 25 spins, my bonus spins total was only around $130!!!!! Not exactly the "jackpot" that one would imagine for such a hit. I think it may be time to move on to something else. To tell you the truth, MG hasn't been all that great of late either. I love to play the mermaid millions game, but it seems to give similial results. Feel like I am born to lose lately!!!!


Hahaha, I'm in the same boat as you with MG slots as well. I've done ziltch since making a withdrawal at 32Red a few weeks back (ice cold).


I found this to be true also, and I also NEVER (not once) hit any "Free Spin" feature at BoDog while playing "Aztec Treasure". That's on $600 worth of deposits, on modestly low bets placed per spin. Just unlucky... I suppose.


Actually, I happen to think that the RTG slots are underrated, and that "Aztec Treasure" (for the most part) is one of the best games around. If the swings weren't so bad for that game, I actually prefer it (albeit slightly) over my favorite MG games (Tomb Raider/Mermaids Millions/Thunderstruck/Spring Break). Actually, I should rephrase that a little. Swings to me implies that there are many ups and downs, but like what's being mentioned in this thread, RTG slots can go completely down hill and for an extended time (and for quite an extended time to boot).


I'd say I had similar results over at "Casino Extreme" (as I had with BoDog), although I did in fact make one significant (instant) withdrawal. After that, boom, krrrrplunk!!! Each deposit I made after that win, I never got more than a few dollars ahead of the credit I had originally started with. As was the case with BoDog, making repeated $100 deposits and getting literally zero opportunities at winning anything, I decided to pull the plug on RTG's.


Not that I needed any more reinforcement, but the mere fact that "phynqster" went on record by stating that RTG casinos can alter their payout %'s, is enough for me to NOT go back. The games are designed for them to come out ahead in the end, regardless. Why tamper with it when slots already run deep into negative expectation?


Steed

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payout percentages

it would be great to have a chart showing a number of the casinos monthly slot payout percentages to see how they stack up. i have only looked at slot payouts for a few casinos and my initial impression is that MG slots payout significantly more than RTG. (by at least a full percentage point....possibly 1.5 points) By know means have I done a comprehensive analysis so this is still just one man's opinion.
 
Just to play devils advocate for a second, I think it's good that RTG are creating and releasing new games and trying new ideas.

Sure they may not be good on the payouts, but change is good...and you learn from experience. As someone pointed out earlier on, it may be that the casinos have set their own paytables hence the bad runs.

:)

Simmo!
 
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I tried out all the new games. I only really got free spins on the baseball one a few times.

Each one I tried (excpet out of this world and the riches ones) I got a free spin rite off the bat only winning $5.00 on each one. Baseball I hit a 45 dollar free round. Nothing big. I figure since the games are new, they most likley will not be profitable at first as there isnt much money into them.

Ama
 
i had another experience with RTG Slots. i tried Hillbillies, Honey to the bee and Realm of Riches with a $500 deposit at vipcasinos. on every 3 slots i got bonus features after a short time and cashed out $2500 at the end.

RTG Slots can have long long losing streaks, but if you get a feature than i expect mostly something between x50 and x100 bet, sometimes more. I had bad luck at Bodog for 4 months and lost $6000, i thought its impossible to win here. i decided to make my last deposit with $1000 at Bodog and won $11800 on the same day and $4500 on the following (i play only Real Series Slots). now i have a profit at Bodog, but before i thought its a waste of time and money to play there.
Inetbet the same, last month i won $9800 at Gold Beard with a $20 bet.

can't complain about RTG :thumbsup:
 
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Way to go:))

I have yet to ever hit a real series random. I havnt done all that well on real series the last few months. I used to have good luck on ronin, but its been a long long time. Ihave been sticking more to video poker. I hit about 5 royals in the last two months.

Amatrine
 
johnsteed said:
Not that I needed any more reinforcement, but the mere fact that "phynqster" went on record by stating that RTG casinos can alter their payout %'s, is enough for me to NOT go back.

I think he was only talking about 3-reel slots and not the 5-reels slots you play. Because of the weighted reels of 3-reel slots it is very easy to change the payout% this way.

But for 5-reel slots this is another matter. The slot simulator I made left no doubt that for MG 5-reel slots each spin is non-weighted. It just chooses a random (with equal probabilities) position on each reel that typical has 30-40 symbols (some symbols occours multiple times on each reel though).

So there is no way to configure the payout% for the 5 reel MG slots.
I have not yet tested RTG 5-reel slots this way. But I would be VERY surprised if they did not work the same way. The only way to change this
would be to change the reels, only the software provider can do this. So if there are some truth about RTG slots went 'cold' this is what I would say is the most likely explanation.

Zoozie
 
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Stupid Zoozie! I decided to try the new RTG slots.

There was a 125% deposit bonus coupon. I deposited 50$ so I had 125$. Playing 1.25$ a spin on "Outtathisworld" the money lasted 10 minutes! Highest win was 6$ and I never even got the feature. (even if I had hit it, the average win is still only about 30 times bet size on these)

Btw, I will start continue the work on my slot simulator again so I am reminded of how hopeless odds you have against these beasts.

Zoozie
 
RTG Bad payers

Had a real bad run at Inet Bet. Lost heaps. Then I got 100 free spins on Raindance, got 5 wolves. Won $2000 on 1 spin playing $5.00 spin. They have a really long losing sequence and then you can win once or twice. They aren't the best payers but I like some of the games. Forget the new games they are rubbish. Cleo Rain Dance and Aztec are the best of a bad bunch
 
I like RTG

I guess Im the odd man (woman) out. That is all I play. I get bonus rounds alot. I only play $1 spins and never cash out for more than about $300 - $400 but that's not bad for a $20 investment

I don't play to become a rich person and I know Ill probably never hit the random but I play because I like the games and it entertains me and gives me a chance to get some extra spending cash.

I dont think I havnt hit a bonus on every game offered except on that new dolphin one I dont like because I feel like my head is spinning with the way the reels look lol
 
deposited 50$ so I had 125$. Playing 1.25$ a spin on "Outtathisworld" the money lasted 10 minutes! Highest win was 6$ and I never even got the feature. (even if I had hit it, the average win is still only about 30 times bet size on these)

I think that's very normal, because i've lost even $ 400 without any bonus feature on only a $ 1 bet, so that's not really mysterious ;)
 

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