RTG Freerolls - RTG reps please respond!

[chayton]

A couple days ago I won a buck in a freeroll tourney @ iNetBet but it wasn't credited - I didn't know why so I asked the rep here and I was told it was because I had a zero balance and so in the RTG tourney system it looked like I had never deposited, and so wouldn't be able to win. They said to contact support, so I shot a mail to support and they credited it manually and that was all good.

I won a couple smallish amounts on the Rushmore freerolls - those were paid into my account when I had a zero balance.

I just went to BetPhoenix (where I've never deposited) and asked live chat if I was allowed to play the freerolls, and he said you need to have a balance to be able to play the freerolls.

So I'm just wondering if the Reps can respond here about what each casino (group) policy is for freerolls so that people will know the scoop before wasting time playing a tournament and then finding out they can't win anything even if they win something.

Just 2 simple questions:
Can people play and win if they've never deposited?
Can they play and win if they've deposited in the past but currently have a zero balance?

thanks!

 

[silcnlayc]

Since the implementation of tournies and freerolls at RTG casinos, I find it odd that some people want to play the free tournies and never deposit. Why is that? Even land based casinos will not invite you to any kind of tourney unless you have played there before.

chayton: Can people play and win if they've never deposited?

What is it with always wanting something for nothing? I really am wondering this because I feel those that choose to only play where no investment is required penalizes those that do invest without any kind of additional compensation such as match play bonuses etc in the long run such as what is happening in the online gambling world today.

What I mean by this , is that, players have demanded so much from casinos in the way of freebies that this must be covered by others that do not play with freebies or match bonuses etc.. The money MUST come from somewhere because the casino is in business to make a profit...so, why is it that so many feel entitled to play games for free so often and not give in return??

I am really , really curious about this new mentality that I am reading more and more here...Such as:
I am owed something but I do not want to give anything to get that something
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[Nifty29]

Since the implementation of tournies and freerolls at RTG casinos, I find it odd that some people want to play the free tournies and never deposit. Why is that? Even land based casinos will not invite you to any kind of tourney unless you have played there before.

What is it with always wanting something for nothing? I really am wondering this because I feel those that choose to only play where no investment is required penalizes those that do invest without any kind of additional compensation such as match play bonuses etc in the long run such as what is happening in the online gambling world today.

What I mean by this , is that, players have demanded so much from casinos in the way of freebies that this must be covered by others that do not play with freebies or match bonuses etc.. The money MUST come from somewhere because the casino is in business to make a profit...so, why is it that so many feel entitled to play games for free so often and not give in return??

I am really , really curious about this new mentality that I am reading more and more here...Such as:
I am owed something but I do not want to give anything to get that something
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Very well said Silc

 

[chayton]

Since the implementation of tournies and freerolls at RTG casinos, I find it odd that some people want to play the free tournies and never deposit. Why is that? Even land based casinos will not invite you to any kind of tourney unless you have played there before.

What is it with always wanting something for nothing? I really am wondering this because I feel those that choose to only play where no investment is required penalizes those that do invest without any kind of additional compensation such as match play bonuses etc in the long run such as what is happening in the online gambling world today.

What I mean by this , is that, players have demanded so much from casinos in the way of freebies that this must be covered by others that do not play with freebies or match bonuses etc.. The money MUST come from somewhere because the casino is in business to make a profit...so, why is it that so many feel entitled to play games for free so often and not give in return??

I am really , really curious about this new mentality that I am reading more and more here...Such as:
I am owed something but I do not want to give anything to get that something
.

Excuse me? WTH is that supposed to mean? Where did you get the impression that I'm demanding freebies from casinos? I'm asking a simple question. Most MG tourneys have freerolls and most of those are open to all players - if they're only for players who've deposited that week or deposited ever they're marked "invitation only."

As for you snarking about my "mentality" - I've pumped a lot of my hard earned dosh into a lot of casinos - and since I haven't been winning lately I'm not finding it easy to find a way to deposit into all the new RTGs that have sprung up over the last few months. When I play RTG I just find it easier to play somewhere that they already have my docs and I know I'll be paid quickly.

And get off your soapbox - wasn't it you who a few months back was so disgruntled with not being able to win anything that you were playing freebies at rogue casino? And complaining about the casinos only giving deposit bonuses and not handing out free chips?

anyhow whatever, you're entitled to your opinion.

 

[silcnlayc]

chayton: Excuse me? WTH is that supposed to mean?

chayton, please calm down..this was not aimed at you in any way personally. It is an observation I have been making by reading all these bonus and freebie issues here. Not just yours. So please do not take it personal. If it came off that way, then apologies for that is not the way it was meant.

chayton: And get off your soapbox - wasn't it you who a few months back was so disgruntled with not being able to win anything that you were playing freebies at rogue casino? And complaining about the casinos only giving deposit bonuses and not handing out free chips?

I absolutely did play many rogue casinos with free chips but never EXPECTED a dime in return. I also never played in any of their tournies, free or otherwise. On the other hand I too have put in a lot of money in many casinos and have not played any tournies where I have not DEPOSITED at. Just a slight difference I would say.

All in all...this was really not meant at you...it was a GENERAL observation of many asking this same question as you...you really are not the first...so ...relax..it was not meant to offend..my question, just wanted to see what others think like and why they would think that way...

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[chayton]

chayton, please calm down..this was not aimed at you in any way personally. It is an observation I have been making by reading all these bonus and freebie issues here. Not just yours. So please do not take it personal. If it came off that way, then apologies for that is not the way it was meant.

ok then, my apologies too for taking it personally.

As far as freerolls - I've never played one at BetPhoenix because I've never deposited there. I just decided to ask them if I was even allowed to play if I wanted to. I asked, they said I needed a balance to be able to play, I said ok thanks and that was it.

The main reason for my original post was because of the comment I got from BetPhoenix that you need to have a balance to play the freerolls.

So imagine that you just deposited a couple hundred bucks and lost it. Then you notice there's a freeroll so you play it - and win. And then you find out that you weren't eligible to win because your balance was zero?

That's why I wanted the reps to respond just to clarify that - it seems like each casino has their own rules.

Personally I think it would be easiest IF you have to be a depositor or have a balance to play the freerolls, RTG builds in something so that you can't sign up if you haven't deposited or if your account is zero. Or if everyone does like ClubWorld and gives their freerolls a $.01 entry fee, that way you HAVE to have at least a one cent balance in order to play.

And I'm also wondering - if a person who's not a depositer wins a freeroll and they're not eligible to win, does the prize go to the next person? Or does it get absorbed back into the casino?

 

[skiny]

.............It is an observation I have been making by reading all these bonus and freebie issues here. Not just yours. So please do not take it personal. If it came off that way, then apologies for that is not the way it was meant............my question, just wanted to see what others think like and why they would think that way...

I shortened that up....

Maybe the mentality comes from the fact that after years of playing these games and enjoying a win some, lose some relationship a lot of people are tired now of the deposit, lose your shirt relationship they're finding themselves in.

 

[silcnlayc]

skiny:Maybe the mentality comes from the fact that after years of playing these games and enjoying a win some, lose some relationship a lot of people are tired now of the deposit, lose your shirt relationship they're finding themselves in.

Exactly my point! (Hope someone understands it) If players would STOP requesting so many bonuses and freebies that are really not good for oneself..and allow the casino to play like it used to...we would all be a lot happier again, but the monies must come from somewhere to pay out these bonuses..so the casinos choose to make it comes from lack of winning etc etc..as I was trying to say..

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[secret2]

Exactly my point! (Hope someone understands it) If players would STOP requesting so many bonuses and freebies that are really not good for oneself..and allow the casino to play like it used to...we would all be a lot happier again, but the monies must come from somewhere to pay out these bonuses..so the casinos choose to make it comes from lack of winning etc etc..as I was trying to say..

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I bow to thee of Silk and Lace:notworthy. You make a lot of sense and the post you just made is very well said and one that I agree with so much because today I was thinking about a deeper meaning about humanity as a whole, especially when I am feeling despondent, as some feel deserving of getting a free ride when '
the ride has not been paid for'

The sense of 'I deserve this' is BS.

Sorry for the rant and maybe off topic but today?....well, I just had to say it.

PS!! Not aimed at anyone on this board at all...just a deflective reflective. LOL..Ok rant over and thanks for the opportunity to purge.

 

[chayton]

This thread has turned into a bunch of other stuff that really doesn't have anything to do with my original post - which was, in case anyone forgot - Do you have to be a depositing player to play the RTG Freerolls and if you are, do you need to have a balance in the account to be able to win?

It had nothing to do with taking bonuses or getting free chips or who's taking advantage of who. Which is now what it's turned into so I'm going to request this thread be closed.

 

[just play]

Since the implementation of tournies and freerolls at RTG casinos, I find it odd that some people want to play the free tournies and never deposit. Why is that? Even land based casinos will not invite you to any kind of tourney unless you have played there before.

Maybe their bored or broke? If the casino doesn't have a problem with it why should the players? Casinos can always set up a freeroll ONLY for players who deposit can't they?

What is it with always wanting something for nothing? I really am wondering this because I feel those that choose to only play where no investment is required penalizes those that do invest without any kind of additional compensation such as match play bonuses etc in the long run such as what is happening in the online gambling world today.

What I mean by this , is that, players have demanded so much from casinos in the way of freebies that this must be covered by others that do not play with freebies or match bonuses etc.. The money MUST come from somewhere because the casino is in business to make a profit...so, why is it that so many feel entitled to play games for free so often and not give in return??

Again, because the casinos let them. I know some people feel "entitled" to freebies, but if you are continually losing it gets sickning after a while don't ya think?

I am really , really curious about this new mentality that I am reading more and more here...Such as:
I am owed something but I do not want to give anything to get that something

Maybe these players you are referring to have lost thousands and thousands of dollars without having a decent cashout? I don't know...but for myself, if the casino allows it what can you do?
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Silc..where are you reading this? (so many players wanting something for nothing)

 

[just play]

This thread has turned into a bunch of other stuff that really doesn't have anything to do with my original post - which was, in case anyone forgot - Do you have to be a depositing player to play the RTG Freerolls and if you are, do you need to have a balance in the account to be able to win?

It had nothing to do with taking bonuses or getting free chips or who's taking advantage of who. Which is now what it's turned into so I'm going to request this thread be closed.

Why can't you just re-ask your question to casinos? You never did get an answer did you? I would like to know the answer as well, but you know what happens to threads, they always go onto something else.

 

[chayton]

Why can't you just re-ask your question to casinos? You never did get an answer did you? I would like to know the answer as well, but you know what happens to threads, they always go onto something else.

Yeah I thought it would be something other players would be interested in as well which is why I posted in the first place. I already PMed Max to ask him to close this thread cause it's gone off on a completely different tangent, and now even if a rep does come to read it, they'll have to wade through all the other stuff too.

 

[silcnlayc]

Silc..where are you reading this? (so many players wanting something for nothing)

here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/casino-complaints-bonus-issues/ and many here https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/online-casinos/ and many more here : https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/casino-complaints-non-bonus-issues/

chayton This thread has turned into a bunch of other stuff that really doesn't have anything to do with my original post - which was, in case anyone forgot - Do you have to be a depositing player to play the RTG Freerolls and if you are, do you need to have a balance in the account to be able to win?

It had nothing to do with taking bonuses or getting free chips or who's taking advantage of who. Which is now what it's turned into so I'm going to request this thread be closed.

Is that so bad...of course it has to do with your question and yes, we are interested in others thoughts..it has not gone off so far as to know the initial question which as just play says ...ask it again..but right now if you noticed no casino rep is interested in replying...so why so quick on the trigger to close your own thread??

I find it quite interesting what others think of free tournies and such as your question here is asked .Since no one came along ..I figured it is a forum and I offered my thoughts on your question..ahh well, ......Here is your initial question again since I am to blame for responding instead of waiting until a rep feels gracious enough to come here and do so themselves..I just didn't want you to feel like you were talking to a wall waiting on them to respond...:

So I'm just wondering if the Reps can respond here about what each casino (group) policy is for freerolls so that people will know the scoop before wasting time playing a tournament and then finding out they can't win anything even if they win something.

Just 2 simple questions:
Can people play and win if they've never deposited?
Can they play and win if they've deposited in the past but currently have a zero balance?

thanks!

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[just play]

I don't wanna work tonight Silc...lol


Come on reps.....there's only 2 little questions.

 

[Jasminebed]

I'd like to know too. I've not played tourneys anywhere I don't deposit, but I have played with a zero balance.

If I've taken a bonus, I usually zero out my account so that WRs or restricted games do not carry over.

 

[chayton]

...so why so quick on the trigger to close your own thread??

Sorry I was just being impatient...(and perhaps a little bitchy. )

If you guys think we should keep it open, maybe we should PM the RTG reps to respond?

EDIT: Just got a message from Max and now that the thread is on track and people are interesting in hearing from the reps it will stay open.

 

[just play]

One would think these questions would be answered quite quickly...I mean no one is asking the reps for their first born.


Just 2 simple questions:
Can people play and win if they've never deposited?
Can they play and win if they've deposited in the past but currently have a zero balance?

 

[silcnlayc]

just play One would think these questions would be answered quite quickly...I mean no one is asking the reps for their first born.


Just 2 simple questions:
Can people play and win if they've never deposited?
Can they play and win if they've deposited in the past but currently have a zero balance?

Exactly. Good question, didn't want it to fade away even if I do get on my soap box a tad too much...so let's get lively here reps..please let us all know this info. I have played a few tournies without a dime in my account so, I, too, am wondering why some must have a balance or if this "balance" is the deposited amount that has been already used they are talking about. Or are they one and the same? Curiouser and curiouser..

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[chayton]

I sent PMs to a few reps - I didn't bother with ClubWorld because as far as I know, they don't do freerolls anymore. The only ones I've heard back from are:

Bodog (who has proprietary software - I did NOT know that!) so the question doesn't apply to them - I'm assuming because they don't do the RTG tourneys.

iNetBet - who says

We do try to make freerolls only for depositing players. Obviously there is no way to regulate this as things stand as there is no charge. We do however stipulate that players who win but have never deposited would need to make a verification deposit to take part.

The zero balance thing (as I found out when I won and didn't get credited) has to be done manually if you win, so it's just easier if you actually have a balance. iNetBet Promos says that RTG is aware that the zero balance thing is messing things up - so whether that means they're going to change it...? Who knows?
And here's the url to iNetBet's tourney info - fine print is at the bottom regarding terms. Old / Expired Link

So we're pretty clear on the terms for iNetBet!

So I sent PMs to the following (but haven't heard from them) Louise for Rushmore - obviously they'll pay out if you have a zero balance because it's happened to me, but not sure if the tourneys are only for depositers or not. Nicolas for BetPhoenix and the rep for Jackpot Capital - but I don't think they even do freerolls there.

But then I had to go do something else and I couldn't think what other RTGs there are - there's not that many that have freerolls. If you guys think of any, PM the rep and see what they say.

 

[NicolasJohnson]

Can people play and win if they've never deposited?

Yes, so long as their last transaction was not a free chip, unless the free roll specifically says otherwise.

Can they play and win if they've deposited in the past but currently have a zero balance?

If your last transaction was a deposit, and your balance is $0, yes you can withdraw from a free roll win (subject of course to meeting any restrictions like play through)

Sorry for the long delay in reply... last week was a very busy week for me.

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Bet Phoenix Casino Affiliate Manager