[ROGUE] The Dirty Secrets Behind Palace Of Chance Casino!!!

[jas2587]

nope cindy, the v.i.p 500.00 lifetime free chip wasnt hush money, i was told that about mystics win and had to promise not to say anything after i kept hounding dean about it, he said she had won on a 20.00 deposit but had several free chips before that and that he wasnt going to pay her as it was a 20.00 deposit, just like i told roger on the phone last night when he called, should i have come forward sooner? yes and i regret not doing so, now all i want to do is help get mystic her money back she won fair and square by bringing this out in the open, she would not have gotten it before thru p.a.b and we all know that, now the new management to save face must do the right thing and pay her, and the 500.00 free chip is kinda hard to play anymore when you have closed your accounts, so thats not the issue at hand, its holding this company responsable for screwing so many people around and now that my proof is in hand and they want to save what face they still may have, they need to pay mystic and all that have been screwed over by them.................laurie

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[tim5ny]

I still dont understand why you had to Promise a casino rep diddley
not to bring up Mystics being robbed of her win?

Her conscious lead her....and she did what was right! Laurie laid it on the line for the good of others. Give her credit for it.

 

[babs7262]

I know Mystic and I have butt heads and Id like to put that aside right now.

Mystic is right. I think we need to step back a minute, let all the facts come into play and not hang Laurie over and over. Im sure there are alot of mitigating circumstances that lead laurie here. I am speaking only my opinion, I havnt talked to either Laurie or Mystic

I just think this is the type of thread that can get ugly and enough damage was done and things are on their way to healing. Life is too short, like Mystic said, she forgave Laurie and thats what matters no matter how many feel differently.

I am begging everyone here to please sit on this for a little bit. No, Im not a moderator or think I am, I just dont want this getting too ugly . I am looking out for both Mystic and Laurie and that should be enough considering our past bouts! That should mean something. Please?

 

[tim5ny]

I'm either gonna watch Goodfellas or Casino today.... it only seems appropriate!

 

[babs7262]

I'm either gonna watch Goodfellas or Casino today.... it only seems appropriate!

I could watch goodfellas a million times and never get bored. I have it in my pc

 

[anniemac]

Actually in my opinion this should have been between Laurijim, Mysticjoz and the Meister. If Mystic is OK with this, then it is none of my business.

I am still bothered by it alot and hope that it is resolved to the benefit of all injured parties.

I think that is enough said.

 

[mysticjoz]

email sent to contact.. returned

Ok.. So I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up to recieve the RJ after over a year and a half, and I am glad that I didn't. Not to say that it "won't" happen. But this way here if .. IF... it does it will definately be a god-send (thank you Lauriejim).

I did send an email to the email address I was provided.
here it is....
To:roger@casinocentersupport.com
Subject:my random jackpot win at POC per Lauriejim's request
Date:Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:11:38 PM
[View Source]
Hi,
I have recieved a PM from LaurieJim at Casinomeister regarding a random jackpot I won but was never paid at the Palace of Chance online casino last year.
There is SO much communications and documentation regarding that place and my NOT being paid it would be way too over whelming to send it all at once (let alone to see if I still have it all!) I do know I have switched computers since then AND I did delete some info.. as I saw I would NEVER be paid by them.
The first thing I can do is direct you to the original thread I started when "Dean" called my house to tell me I would be paid. (needless to say he was lying). This is the first thread regarding my win and all the lies and deception. I do appreciate your taking the time to look into this and I am so grateful to lauriejim for stepping up to the plate like she did.
Link Outdated / Removed

again, thank you and please let me know what else you need or may need.
have a good day
xxxxx aka mysticjoz

but it was returned two seconds later as ..
The following addresses had fatal errors:
roger@casinocentersupport.com: 550 5.1.1 <roger@casinocentersupport.com>
recipient invalid domain

I have now been given the correct email address (LJ and I both hope..lol) and am sending that out again now, then it is time for me to rest! (this is alot for me in one day! please bear with me.!
So, we will see what happens from here, but in the meantime.

Thank you very much LaurieJim! To post what you did regardless of the reasons took an unbelievable amount of courage! I commend you on that! (if that is the word I am looking for.. I think it is .. lol)

To all CM members.. remember. LJ is doing something so many others would have walked away from. Again Please give her credit for that because in my book she is now a woman of integrity. She has earned my respect regardless of what she did in the past. the past is the past and NO ONE should ever feel they have the right to judge you for that. (I know of someone who should be on thier knees begging forgiveness for a really big lie. BUT.. they have yet to come clean and probably never will! When they are ready.. I will be one of the first ones there to help them through, until then.. I am quite about it)

We all learn from our mistakes. We grow from making wrongs right and we live life the best we can with what god gives us!!

To err is human to forgive divine.

Lauriejim.. again thank you! It is not the end result, it's the effort and honesty that count in my book!

 

[bryand]

@ mystic,

From my past experiences you may want to keep this issue private until it is resolved. JMO

 

[dambusted]

Thank you very much LaurieJim.

LaurieJim, I respect you much more today, and I do hope you know that you did the right thing. Thank you! :notworthy

AMEN!!

With this and the AP/Ultimate Scams....just goes to show ya....alot can happen behind those closed doors...should we be really surprised?

 

[Rusty]

I think this should be out in the open, like a septic wound it needs to be cleansed and aired for the healing to take place.

mysticjoz is the One most affected by this on this forum as far as I can tell and if she is prepared to forgive laurie then I know we can all do the same.
mysticjoz you are a brave and honourable soul.

I can only hope the outcome will serve a little justice to all concerned and agin credit Lauriejim for going public with this no matter what your feelings about her past actions.

Nashvegas, please reconsider, your posts would be much missed here.

 

[bryand]

I think this should be out in the open, like a septic wound it needs to be cleansed and aired for the healing to take place.

mysticjoz is the One most affected by this on this forum as far as I can tell and if she is prepared to forgive laurie then I know we can all do the same.
mysticjoz you are a brave and honourable soul.

I can only hope the outcome will serve a little justice to all concerned and agin credit Lauriejim for going public with this no matter what your feelings about her past actions.

Nashvegas, please reconsider, your posts would be much missed here.

Agreed, I should have been more specific. I meant to say, at this point, you may want to withhold private correspondence between you and the casino until resolved.

 

[mysticjoz]

Agreed, I should have been more specific. I meant to say, at this point, you may want to withhold private correspondence between you and the casino until resolved.

I wish I could say I agree with that. However, from what I understand this thread is being monitored word for word by the one who is "supposed to help resolve" this issue. And with that being said, I do want to let him know that email addy #2 was also returned.

So, in public I would like to ask that he either PM myself or Lauram with a valid email address. I myself have learned in the past (from this casino in particular) not to have any phone conversations with them. In the past all the screen shots of transactions and all the documented conversations couldn't get me paid. And personally I don't blame LJ for not wanting to call them herself at this point. but yes... she did the right thing. and No I haven't had any offers put on the table for me. yet. (I do hope for one) but I know this group better than that and I hope they don't drag it out as I am feeling as if false hopes were already given.
So IF this person who is supposed to resolve this IS reading this thread please PM either Lauriejim or myself. that would be the first step in resolving this issue IF you do want to resolve it.

 

[bryand]

I wish I could say I agree with that. However, from what I understand this thread is being monitored word for word by the one who is "supposed to help resolve" this issue. And with that being said, I do want to let him know that email addy #2 was also returned.

Hmmmm.....in that case it wouldn't hurt for me to summarize this thread

Palace of Chance Casino, an affiliate of Virtual Casino, Cirrus Casino, Cool Cat Casino, Club Player Casino, Prism Casino, VIP Lounge Casino, Slots of Vegas Casino and Wild Vegas Casino:

Regularly lies to players.

Employees extort money from players.

Uses the phrase "under new management" often to give the appearance of becoming legitimate.

Are located in Costa Rica where there is no oversight or regulation.

Mislead and/or abuse their affiliates.

Refuse to pay out valid wins.

 

[LaurieJim]

im feeling pretty low now, just had a email from james(octavio) he has lost his job and they fired him, my beef was with dean and the casino upper management and owner about how they jerk people around, i forwarded the email to babs, kakata, bingot and j todd as proof, he disputes what i had said and i was even reminded that tomorrow is 9/11 and what i did to him was an act of terrorism.i had asked this roger not to fire octavio as the management knew all about this and it should have been them that got fired, look all i wanted is mystics money paid to her, they cant fire dean as he quit or was fired or andre as he skipped off with another mgr. and got married.i didnt know trying to right a wrong would be so painful and so hurtful to others including myself, shoulda maybe kept it all to myself after all, i didnt want to hurt everyone, just those responsable for the lying and cheating that has gone on so long at poc and to those players affected, being too kind hearted has been my biggest flaw imo, need to get more cynical and hateful and vindictive as person to fit in with the rest of the world but that wouldnt be me..............laurie

 

[dambusted]

Hmmmm.....in that case it wouldn't hurt for me to summarize this thread

Palace of Chance Casino, an affiliate of Virtual Casino, Cirrus Casino, Cool Cat Casino, Club Player Casino, Prism Casino, VIP Lounge Casino, Slots of Vegas Casino and Wild Vegas Casino:

Regularly lies to players.

Employees extort money from players.

Uses the phrase "under new management" often to give the appearance of becoming legitimate.

Are located in Costa Rica where there is no oversight or regulation.

Mislead and/or abuse their affiliates.

Refuse to pay out valid wins.

My belief theres more casinos then just that. Example with Ultimate Bet/AB "new management" "extort money from players"...on and on. I am sure there is many more that haven't been brought out.
I have come to the terms that any where I put my money online at any casino...its a big "GAMBLE"....I gamble that its a legimate casino...that I may win(but lately thats few and far between)...I might get paid if I do win(without having to go through loops)...and if any of those happen...its been a Damn Good Day! Unfortuately lately as you can see by many posts that "Good Days" don't come very often anymore.

 

[dambusted]

im feeling pretty low now, just had a email from james(octavio) he has lost his job and they fired him, my beef was with dean and the casino upper management and owner about how they jerk people around, i forwarded the email to babs, kakata, bingot and j todd as proof, he disputes what i had said and i was even reminded that tomorrow is 9/11 and what i did to him was an act of terrorism.i had asked this roger not to fire octavio as the management knew all about this and it should have been them that got fired, look all i wanted is mystics money paid to her, they cant fire dean as he quit or was fired or andre as he skipped off with another mgr. and got married.i didnt know trying to right a wrong would be so painful and so hurtful to others including myself, shoulda maybe kept it all to myself after all, i didnt want to hurt everyone, just those responsable for the lying and cheating that has gone on so long at poc and to those players affected, being too kind hearted has been my biggest flaw imo, need to get more cynical and hateful and vindictive as person to fit in with the rest of the world but that wouldnt be me..............laurie

I believe you did the right thing and I know in your heart you did the right thing...the rest of it is out of your control. Please don't sit there and beat yourself up.

 

[kakata]

why are you so much worried about theyr(casino club) comments and those e-mail, which were constructed for the case??
They are what they are and you are what you are....a lady.
(a gambler lady tho)....and cause you are a gambler lady you are forgiven(IMHO) for what you and many of us did at least once in life....I did it.
Gambling is an ugly beast.
You dont need to prove anything....., not to me anyway,,they should, but they wont.
Theyr story tells me all.
Ive been there too and after only 1 deposit I could see what they were made of.
As Ive already said they keep calling me on a weekly basis....sometimes twice.
DC999,somehow,was right .I was,somehow, wrong.
I love you....whatever.(Im serious now)

 

[tim5ny]

im feeling pretty low now, just had a email from james(octavio) he has lost his job and they fired him, my beef was with dean and the casino upper management and owner about how they jerk people around, i forwarded the email to babs, kakata, bingot and j todd as proof, he disputes what i had said and i was even reminded that tomorrow is 9/11 and what i did to him was an act of terrorism.i had asked this roger not to fire octavio as the management knew all about this and it should have been them that got fired, look all i wanted is mystics money paid to her, they cant fire dean as he quit or was fired or andre as he skipped off with another mgr. and got married.i didnt know trying to right a wrong would be so painful and so hurtful to others including myself, shoulda maybe kept it all to myself after all, i didnt want to hurt everyone, just those responsable for the lying and cheating that has gone on so long at poc and to those players affected, being too kind hearted has been my biggest flaw imo, need to get more cynical and hateful and vindictive as person to fit in with the rest of the world but that wouldnt be me..............laurie

Not your fault Laurie!...as you only shared the truth. To be used as you were and have kept silent about it so long speaks volumes in itself about you. Bodies had to hit the floor on this one as it came to light, and you have no control over that. Obviously that place is nothing but a beehive of illegal activity and now that it's been exposed, someone has to take the fall for it. Too bad some innocents got caught up in the trap. If I've ever seen a thread powerful enough to bring a casino to its knees in all my years at Meister's, this is definitely the one. Don't feel guilty because they no doubt had it coming to them.

 

[tim5ny]

why are you so much worried about theyr(casino club) comments and those e-mail, which were constructed for the case??
They are what they are and you are what you are....a lady.
(a gambler lady tho)....and cause you are a gambler lady you are forgiven(IMHO) for what you and many of us did at least once in life....I did it.
Gambling is an ugly beast.
You dont need to prove anything....., not to me anyway,,they should, but they wont.
Theyr story tells me all.
Ive been there too and after only 1 deposit I could see what they were made of.
As Ive already said they keep calling me on a weekly basis....sometimes twice.
DC999,somehow,was right .I was,somehow, wrong.
I love you....whatever.(Im serious now)

And that brings to mind DC999! Didn't he get screwed out of around 100k by these crooks?

 

[kakata]

And that brings to mind DC999! Didn't he get screwed out of around 100k by these crooks?

....only 22K.....lol only 22K like it was nothing.
Now I do undearsteand his anger towards me.
Still I was called dumb ...idiot...and all the rest for playing at a rogue casino, so I decided not to post anymore about em(crytal palace)....someone else could have had felt same way....not?

 

[Rusty]

im feeling pretty low now, just had a email from james(octavio) he has lost his job and they fired him, my beef was with dean and the casino upper management and owner about how they jerk people around, i forwarded the email to babs, kakata, bingot and j todd as proof, he disputes what i had said and i was even reminded that tomorrow is 9/11 and what i did to him was an act of terrorism.i had asked this roger not to fire octavio as the management knew all about this and it should have been them that got fired, look all i wanted is mystics money paid to her, they cant fire dean as he quit or was fired or andre as he skipped off with another mgr. and got married.i didnt know trying to right a wrong would be so painful and so hurtful to others including myself, shoulda maybe kept it all to myself after all, i didnt want to hurt everyone, just those responsable for the lying and cheating that has gone on so long at poc and to those players affected, being too kind hearted has been my biggest flaw imo, need to get more cynical and hateful and vindictive as person to fit in with the rest of the world but that wouldnt be me..............laurie

Come on Laurie don't fall into the trap of self pity.
If you lie amongst vipers you are sure to get bit.
You have done the right thing but there was bound to be fallout.
I have no personal beef with the guy that got fired but he was working for a corrupt outfit, he must have known that and been party to at least some of the despicable actions of this Casino.
Even if he is an innocent he should be glad of the opportunity to get away from this group and can use his sacking as evidence that he was not complicit in any wrongdoings to his benefit when courting a reputable outfit.
Hardly the act of a terrorist on your part more like a freedom fighter
Hang in there Laurie but accept, as you were, you have bought much of this on yourself and ultimately you will be much stronger.
The right path is always the hardest for a reason.

 

[catrina m]

You did the right thing.

A lot of people do not know the difference between right and wrong, unless its thier right.

I applaud you for shining a light on these lice infested cockroaches. They have screwed people out of thier money for years with the free chips.

If enough people read this thread in the world they will cease to exist.

 

[tim5ny]

If Joe Pesci comes a knocking at your door, I know what definitely pisses him off! A baseball bat to the head! Lets help Laurie dig a few holes in the desert....and someone bring the lime! We're into underworld shit now!

"Go get your phuckin shine box!"

 

[dambusted]

If Joe Pesci comes a knocking at your door, I know what definitely pisses him off! A baseball bat to the head! Lets help Laurie dig a few holes in the desert....and someone bring the lime! We're into underworld shit now!

"Go get your phuckin shine box!"

Too Phuckin Funny!

 

[Westland Bowl]

Does Cipher own these casinos? I'm staying faaar away from them!!!