Ridiculous offer from Virtual

danny, i have never made it a secret on this forum that i play at palace of chance or club player. i got on chat last night and i hope you got the message from wendy that you are lower than a snakes ass. i have never played at your casino and i dont like the way you as mgr run it but all you did was hurt people and badly. i will prob take a lot of heat for this post but that was the sorriest shit ive ever seen, granted you say your heart was in the right place but your brain wasnt. there are folks on this forum that lost loved ones that day... the only way i see myself forgiving you is just come out and say you were after the money and that you are sorry but i dont expect that from you ,you have already shown your colors and you call your self an american, a new yorker? shame on you danny!!! oh by the way im the one that contacted several people at virtuals casinos and suggested they need to get rid of your butt as you have screwed up with what i see as no way of redeeming yourself. have agreat day and im ready for the neg posts about me but i have been honest so bring em on....laurie
 
this group looks for every single excuse in the book to not pay. can you imagine trying to get paid from 911% bonus? lol. not that you deserve it...a. for being stupid enough to deposit there...b. for being enough of a lowlife to accept this offer. 911%!! "ahh, you played blackjack. sorry cant pay you". " ahh, not allowed to change bet sizes. pattern detected"! "didnt meet the 2 billion dollar playthrough. sorry". "neteller stopped processing 6 err, 7 years ago".
 
The casino's honesty, reliablility and overall reputation really should be seperate from this thread and if this manager has skin thick enough to take on the heat here, he should be allowed the opportunity at a future time in another thread, as well as the opportunity to correct any past unresolved issues.

The promotion is the issue here.

I agree. I was just pointing out that they'll do anything for a buck, no matter how many people they have to screw in the process...even by trying to get those players back that they have screwed in the past.
 
You guys are all way off base. Every year I do this 911 promotion, amongst other important subjects dear to my heart. When I first did it I had players contacting me saying thank you that I did it and in the way I did it. I didn't do it last year, but when I didn't, I received a great deal of contact asking me why I didn't and telling me I should have continued. My style of promotions are different then that of what you will see in other casinos. Thats just the way I am. I like to draw attention to things that matter to me. The only way I can bring any attention to important subjects obviously is to do it through my promotions. I'm from New York, my sister was there when it happened 3 blocks away and just got out, so don't for once think you got me all figured out. Don't for once think I did this promotion for a deposit. You dont know me. I shed light where I feel it needs to be, I keep players thinking and remembering what it is they need to remember. I try to do good where I can as well, unlike others. Do you not see my pledge to The Red Cross? Were you guys also upset at my Katrina Promotion where we pledged? If you don't like something I'm only an email away. All you have to do is tell me and then I can explain my reasons and then you can make your judgments. Im very surprised at you jumping on this band wagon Steven, very surprised. Seven was a typo by the way - it should have said Several. I caught it after I saw it. I know it wasnt 7 years ago.
Something more meaningful/tasteful would have been donating 100% or even 50% of the day's deposits to the Red Cross, not a paltry $2 for each depositing player.

And I don't buy the typo cop-out. If you really intended to say "several" instead of "seven" then it would have sounded even stupider:

Several Years ago Today The unthinkable Happened
A Great Loss of Life Took place
Brought Down but NOT Destroyed

And what's up with male RTG casino operators hiding behind their sisters?
 
You're a mess!

danny, i have never made it a secret on this forum that i play at palace of chance or club player. i got on chat last night and i hope you got the message from wendy that you are lower than a snakes ass. i have never played at your casino and i dont like the way you as mgr run it but all you did was hurt people and badly. i will prob take a lot of heat for this post but that was the sorriest shit ive ever seen, granted you say your heart was in the right place but your brain wasnt. there are folks on this forum that lost loved ones that day... the only way i see myself forgiving you is just come out and say you were after the money and that you are sorry but i dont expect that from you ,you have already shown your colors and you call your self an american, a new yorker? shame on you danny!!! oh by the way im the one that contacted several people at virtuals casinos and suggested they need to get rid of your butt as you have screwed up with what i see as no way of redeeming yourself. have agreat day and im ready for the neg posts about me but i have been honest so bring em on....laurie


I am simply replying to your ridiculous RANT! I have been playing with Virtual for a while now, and I admit in the beginning there were slow pays. But since Danny has taken over as manager, I have not cashed out once, but 4 times and have gotten paid not only on time, but early. I believe that people like yourself, need to get a grip!

Dan
 
I am simply replying to your ridiculous RANT! I have been playing with Virtual for a while now, and I admit in the beginning there were slow pays. But since Danny has taken over as manager, I have not cashed out once, but 4 times and have gotten paid not only on time, but early. I believe that people like yourself, need to get a grip!

Dan

This is a very emotional and sensational subject, Danny from SF who joined today for the soul purpose of defending Danny. People were genuinely offended. Rants don't need to be 'rational'. The wound is fresh.
Danny from Costa Rica made a horrible blunder in not recognizing that 'promotion' and 'Painful black day in History' should not be on the same plate. Maybe someday we will see 911 whitetag sales, and December 7th and August 6th BBQ parties with free balloons for the kids. But I doubt it.
I'll venture into dangerous territory and suppose that some of the ire in this thread is being let out because Virtual is considered far less than a savory organization by most of this forum, and with good reason. That's not to say it's the only reason. Other casinos have had new a-holes ripped for promotions and PR that were beyond ridiculous; bordering on krass and predatory. But the bottom line is: It is not now, nor may it ever be, acceptable to mix marketing with tragedy. Period.
 
I am simply replying to your ridiculous RANT! I have been playing with Virtual for a while now, and I admit in the beginning there were slow pays. But since Danny has taken over as manager, I have not cashed out once, but 4 times and have gotten paid not only on time, but early. I believe that people like yourself, need to get a grip!

Dan
perhaps you missed the 911% bonus offer, thats what my rants were about or were you one of the ones that did partake of that promo? i didnt!! i have never played at dannys casino but i have admitted on record that there are 2 casinos that i do play at. they have never had any promos as sickening as that one. a mess :p i might be, but if i have something to say i post it from the heart and some of my fellow posters on here should know by now i may do some crazy things but i always tell the truth and hey im glad you got paid, i never said anything about payments just the promo or cant you read:Read:....laurie:)
 
Another Person's Perspective.......

I lived in the US on 9/11/2001 and saw the horror on television. It took days to grasp the enormity of the devastation. I have never blamed anyone/thing for the tragedy other than vastly differing points of opinion and how it was handled. If you live in the US, it was a very bad thing; if you live in Iraq or Afghanistan, it was a victory. Conversely, the same is true IMO of the war in Iraq. Differing opinions dependant on where you live and what you believe. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

Danny has the job of bringing in money deposits to the Virtual....a tough job because of the group's rep. Would I have used 9/11 for a US promotion? HELL NO! For a middle eastern promotion? HELL YES!

We are here to talk about gambling.....not change the world. If you are offended by anything, you can post about it. If you are estatic about something, you can post about it. Seems fair to me.

I suppose if anything is to blame for the world situation, IMO, it has more to do with an "us vs. them" attitude than what promotions are being offered by any casino. Don't like what is offered by a casino? Then move on to what you do like, or you can blame the guy who "holds a gun to your head" and makes you deposit!
 
Danny...I am TRULY happy that your sister got out in time and was not injured.
I worked in downtown Manhattan for the majority of my life and I personally knew many young men that worked for Cantor Fitzgerald.
One in particular...Billy. A year prior to 911 he and I met for dinner. This was the first of many lunches and dinners we shared. We spoke of his pregnant wife and the two year old boy waiting for him at home. Billy lived on Long Island....recently bought a new home.... a young man just starting a life. He and I developed a relationship that was a daily ongoing thing. I'd like to think he thought of me as a big brother....maybe even a mentor.
He's gone Danny...gone!
And you have the audacity to have a promotion in order to escalate your profits using the deaths of thousands of Americans?!
Are you out of your mind?
I mean how stupid can you get.
Christ...you make me flucking sick to my stomach!
 
I am simply replying to your ridiculous RANT! I have been playing with Virtual for a while now, and I admit in the beginning there were slow pays. But since Danny has taken over as manager, I have not cashed out once, but 4 times and have gotten paid not only on time, but early. I believe that people like yourself, need to get a grip!

Dan

I dont believe you are a genuine player but if you are, you are gonna get screwed big-time. Dont come back to this forum crying. Nobody will have any sympathy for you.
 
Speechless for once

except......if you care so much and its really from your heart (which Im not sure of because you said 7 years when Its 6) Then why not take the exta time and do this:

Send emails GIVING a $10 bonus and ask the player to agree that whatever they win from that $10 (no WR) , Half of all winnings would be sent to the fund for all of the people who got sick from volunteering and cant afford the dr bills.

This way both the casino and the player can do a good thing and remember with dignity instead of just using the horrific event as a promotional tactic. Lets face it, Life must go on and people are going to do what they normally do on that day with the exception of an extra prayer

I did something like this when my 17 yr old nephew died. I had won eminem/50 cent tickets and put them on ebay. Instead of keeping all of the money, I did a 50/50. I wanted to donate the whole thing but my brother told me he would get very upset if I didnt keep half because of my own dr bills that I had so I granted his wish and just did half.

The way your casino promoted this was unacceptable and in bad taste. Even Raymour and Flannigan furniture didnt do a 911 sale and they do every sale in the book!
 
I dont believe you are a genuine player but if you are, you are gonna get screwed big-time. Dont come back to this forum crying. Nobody will have any sympathy for you.
I think he's a shill too. The typical signs are there - just signed up today, first post is to defend Danny (which he made a part of his screen name) and in his profile, his favorite casino is "The Virtual Groups casinos".
 
I am simply replying to your ridiculous RANT! I have been playing with Virtual for a while now, and I admit in the beginning there were slow pays. But since Danny has taken over as manager, I have not cashed out once, but 4 times and have gotten paid not only on time, but early. I believe that people like yourself, need to get a grip!

Dan

ahh ok. we believe you. virtual ah dannysfo.
 
I think he's a shill too. The typical signs are there - just signed up today, first post is to defend Danny (which he made a part of his screen name) and in his profile, his favorite casino is "The Virtual Groups casinos".

Plus last activity = the exact minute the post was made.
 
not that this even deserves a reply, but something tells me my deposit here will end up in flames as well. Who the hell are these guys anyway???
 
I lived in the US on 9/11/2001 and saw the horror on television. It took days to grasp the enormity of the devastation. I have never blamed anyone/thing for the tragedy other than vastly differing points of opinion and how it was handled. If you live in the US, it was a very bad thing; if you live in Iraq or Afghanistan, it was a victory. Conversely, the same is true IMO of the war in Iraq. Differing opinions dependant on where you live and what you believe. Everyone has the right to their opinion.

Danny has the job of bringing in money deposits to the Virtual....a tough job because of the group's rep. Would I have used 9/11 for a US promotion? HELL NO! For a middle eastern promotion? HELL YES!

We are here to talk about gambling.....not change the world. If you are offended by anything you can post about it. If you are estatic about something, you can post about it. Seems fair to me.

I suppose if anything is to blame for the world situation, IMO, it has more to do with an "us vs. them" attitude than what promotions are being offered by any casino. Don't like what is offered by a casino? Then move on to what you do like, or you can blame the guy who "holds a gun to your head" and makes you deposit!



Offended? It wasn't like they used curse words or posted nude pictures....the word "offended" doesn't even come close to this promotion.
 
The only way I can bring any attention to important subjects obviously is to do it through my promotions. Don't for once think I did this promotion for a deposit.


Obviously you didn't read my post. You have thousands of email address in your data base. You didn't HAVE to send out a promotion, you could have instead have sent out an email saying let's remember all those lost on this day and pray for their families. NO promotions, NO deposit deals, just bringing attention to the subject. All you care about is the mighty dollar... You excuses will not fly here. You screwed up. You made a horribly bad decision. Grow up, own up to it, apologize and DON'T do it again next year!!!!
 
Obviously you didn't read my post. You have thousands of email address in your data base. You didn't HAVE to send out a promotion, you could have instead have sent out an email saying let's remember all those lost on this day and pray for their families. NO promotions, NO deposit deals, just bringing attention to the subject. All you care about is the mighty dollar... You excuses will not fly here. You screwed up. You made a horribly bad decision. Grow up, own up to it, apologize and DON'T do it again next year!!!!


Hopefully there won't be a next year for them. :thumbsup:

I have to agree on your statement though. Danny boy turned a tragedy into a friggin commercial circus so that their group could profit from it.


And think about it....they'll more than cover the cost of the red cross donation with all the money they're going to withhold for bonus abuse. :rolleyes:
 
Hopefully there won't be a next year for them. :thumbsup:

I have to agree on your statement though. Danny boy turned a tragedy into a friggin commercial circus so that their group could profit from it.


And think about it....they'll more than cover the cost of the red cross donation with all the money they're going to withhold for bonus abuse. :rolleyes:

Oh hell yes, the day we finally see the virtual group brought down will be a happy day indeed! Criminals brought to justice. I sure hope they are a thing of the past, and soon!
 
very good observation Chu Chu, smells like a con job to me too! How you doing by the way???

Hi Pacers. Doing well, I suppose. Palying more poker nowadays where sometimes you dont risk much by playing at freerolls. My bad habit is once I win something, I give it all back at the Poker rooms' casinos. I think that was in the region of $700- 800 in the past 2 months. Nevermind, its free money anyway.
 
I'm not one to lash out at casino companies as I typically just play poker. I've never done business with Virtual so I have no experience, only what I've read here over the years but I do have something to say.

Any time anyone at another forum mentions this group in a thread I will make sure they all know what a sleazy, classless, scumbag promo this company made on 9/11/07. Danny, your horrible decision will haunt your company's already poor reputation forever.
 

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