Providers moving the goal posts

[dionysus]

I disagree
Why? As long as theyr're not deliberately misleading players, choosing a different setting isnt sort of grounds for disaccreditation
Players night not like it but they can take their custom elsewhere

 

[Kroffe]

Good idea... I'm all in favour of that.

Im up for doing it, but only if Meister or a mod would make it a sticky-post sitting on-top of the "latest" section that is seen when coming to the forum.

Way to much effort for a "normal" post that would just be forgotten about the next day.
Also, it would not serve any purpose if its not visible.

 

[dionysus]

Im up for doing it, but only if Meister or a mod would make it a sticky-post sitting on-top of the "latest" section that is seen when coming to the forum.

Way to much effort for a "normal" post that would just be forgotten about the next day.
Also, it would not serve any purpose if its not visible.

it would get bumped if not stcky but if you gave it a clear and concise title it'll be readily found enough
if you wanted to know if it's a good idea to have pinned, the simplest way would be to pm the big guy or flag him to your post

 

[Kroffe]

it would get bumped if not stcky but if you gave it a clear and concise title it'll be readily found enough
if you wanted to know if it's a good idea to have pinned, the simplest way would be to pm the big guy or flag him to your post

The problem with it being found easy by people searching for it, is that the list needs to be seen by people not searching for it. Those not aware of rtp and how it affects your playtime wont be searching for it.
People searching for info about rtp will find it as it is now, since theres no lack of info out there, more a lack of awareness.

And its such a massive undertaking checking all sites+providers individually, that unless its made visible, i dont think its worth the effort.
Maybe ill send a pm, but hes a lil bit scary...

 

[GameRoom]

We really should compile a list of all Casinos using lower rtp-settings, and what providers they are doing it on.
Something like that should be a sticky-thread here on the forum.
So its the first thing anyone visiting sees.

The only way things are ever gonna change is if casinos start losing players when they lower rtp.
And the only way that can happen is if people learn about rtp, and start avoiding sites that dont offer the highest setting.

it will be nice also when forums and streams talk more about casinos on low rtp and stop advertising casinos to join on their links well they know RTP is low, will be nice also RTP on bonus like DOA2 I think is 36% RTP,what is RTP on Lil devil on top bonus? all-time hearts just disappear on top bonus,I am sure lil devil top bonus have very low rtp

 

[slot_zombie]

The problem with it being found easy by people searching for it, is that the list needs to be seen by people not searching for it. Those not aware of rtp and how it affects your playtime wont be searching for it.
People searching for info about rtp will find it as it is now, since theres no lack of info out there, more a lack of awareness.

And its such a massive undertaking checking all sites+providers individually, that unless its made visible, i dont think its worth the effort.
Maybe ill send a pm, but hes a lil bit scary...

It would be easier to list out by casino group where applicable, than individual sites, e.g. Aspire, ProgressPlay, Genesis....

 

[GameRoom]

I think we have some body in the uk that looks at monopolies and competition, if all the ukgc online casinos settled for the lower rtp setting despite a higher one being available, it could be said the player/customer is being denied choice on a crucial factor, effectively a form of price rigging.

Also if the uk govt bring in a £2 stake limit online, the casinos may feel forced to change to the lower rtp versions as a way of compensating for any loss in their revenue, or it's a nice excuse ready in the pipeline.

I will be very happy to see £2 stake limit so casinos don't get millions every year on profits

 

[slot_zombie]

Merry Christmas from Viral Interactive (it won't be if you play this). Lower than my local arcade's slots, for pity's sake.

Another group with RTP-rigged Red Tigers and Play 'n Go on factory setting.

 

[GameRoom]

Merry Christmas from Viral Interactive (it won't be if you play this). Lower than my local arcade's slots, for pity's sake.

Another group with RTP-rigged Red Tigers and Play 'n Go on factory setting.

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marry Xmas from Santa lol

 

[mack341]

I will be very happy to see £2 stake limit so casinos don't get millions every year on profits

Yes but they then might reduce the rtp percentages because of the £2 stake limit and re-increase their profit margins that way, netent is bad enough as it is on 96.5% let alone any lower. I'm sure games with lower rtp increase the comparative size and rate of player's losses.

 

[Guntis]

I will be very happy to see £2 stake limit so casinos don't get millions every year on profits

Then they would have to apply for income support benefits to help them pay their business expenses off

 

[GameRoom]

Yes but they then might reduce the rtp percentages because of the £2 stake limit and re-increase their profit margins that way, netent is bad enough as it is on 96.5% let alone any lower. I'm sure games with lower rtp increase the comparative size and rate of player's losses.

better we stop playing lol

 

[GameRoom]

Then they would have to apply for income support benefits to help them pay their business expenses off

lol UKGC is taking their money we paying VS back by lowering their RTP what deal...In 2018, Videoslots reached a settlement of £1 million in fines with the

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[Siohmy]

Well my slotting life has been full of milestones when it comes to either reining in playing or stopping altogether. Most of the time it is because the manufacturers/bookies/casinos make it so easy to do.

UK pub slots: Was beginning to waver by the time £70 JPs became a thing. Whole industry jumped the shark when £100 JPs came in. As for the £100 randoms cropping up all over the place, 86% at £1 a go? Erm, no thanks.

Casino slots: Always a bit lethal for me but a combo of influx of “mega-spins” and reducing the RTP to 90% and sometimes below was enough. Plus I didn’t want to play £1-2 plus anymore. Way too expensive.

Las Vegas!; Going in March for what may be the last time. Rotten slot RTPs was always made up for by regular drinks. Now you get ripped off for resort fees, ripped off for the new bar tax (that’s right, a tax for drinking $8 local beers at the bar), ripped off with even lower RTP slots. I know there are ways to avoid a lot of this and do intend to use some tactics but it’s all too depressingly geeedy.

Online slots: Well if the flood of UHV, shower of shite 99% of the time, slots were not enough, the reduction of RTP to almost land based levels will be enough to kick my slotting into touch for good. I mean we’re not even talking 0.5/1% here. Many are reducing anything from 2-5%.

So in reality I should be thanking all the above. You are making it just sooo easy to stop. When I think how much I wanted to play the various incarnations above, sometimes to addict like levels, the weening off by “souring the milk” worked a treat. I genuinely hope it helps any out there who may be gambling just a little too much. When you pretty much never win, it becomes so much easier to stop.

 

[dunover]

Just FYI I made a post once demonstrating how much play time you can expect from a 96% slot, then the same slot at 92%. It works out IIRC at 53% of the playtime on average when dropped to 92% from 96%. The house edge is effectively doubled, it's a colossal difference. If this was taken to its next logical step, down to 90% then you would effectively be playing online at the same odds you get in land-based casinos, so no advantage by gambling online.

 

[GameRoom]

Just FYI I made a post once demonstrating how much play time you can expect from a 96% slot, then the same slot at 92%. It works out IIRC at 53% of the playtime on average when dropped to 92% from 96%. The house edge is effectively doubled, it's a colossal difference. If this was taken to its next logical step, down to 90% then you would effectively be playing online at the same odds you get in land-based casinos, so no advantage by gambling online.

I never check RTP before I thought it don't make much of the deal since I don't bet more than £1 per bet max, since I check the deposit I did on 2 different casinos I so my different my last 5 deposit on lower RTP casino I did only 1-time cash out, on standard RTP casino I did 3 times cash out, now on I check where casino is registered if is registered on malta more likely to have lower RTP need to be check, not sure why but I get more cash out when I play on casinos they register on Islan of man, maybe just luck or RTP is better

 

[dunover]

I never check RTP before I thought it don't make much of the deal since I don't bet more than £1 per bet max, since I check the deposit I did on 2 different casinos I so my different my last 5 deposit on lower RTP casino I did only 1-time cash out, on standard RTP casino I did 3 times cash out, now on I check where casino is registered if is registered on malta more likely to have lower RTP need to be check, not sure why but I get more cash out when I play on casinos they register on Islan of man, maybe just luck or RTP is better

Well it stands to reason if the house edge is doubled, your turnover is nearly halved then you have half the 'shots' at the big feature or wins than you would otherwise therefore you would notice fewer cash-outs. It's terrible for players.

 

[Siohmy]

It will also very much depend on the sort of slot you are playing. Whilst the end result of RTP cut is the same over millions of spins it is likely to be far more noticeable on slots like The Goonies where the general win design is more modest, more frequently as it’s a low to medium variance. DOA2 would likely be largely unnoticeable as the 5% given over to hyper wins (or whatever it may be) will just become 2-3%. Lottery slot so just a reduction in jackpots.

It is noticeable in Vegas how a “good” bonus for many people who video their play is 30-40x. Anything above 100x is actually very rare and getting rarer all the time.

 

[GameRoom]

Well it stands to reason if the house edge is doubled, your turnover is nearly halved then you have half the 'shots' at the big feature or wins than you would otherwise therefore you would notice fewer cash-outs. It's terrible for players.

yes not fun really when u keep the deposit and no cashout, biggest fun u get when u hit a big win or good bonus,itt get boring when u keep playing and deposit u see the outcome is nothing,will be very nice if casinos show RTp on game and bonus RTP also, I did Lil devil like 5-6 times to top bonus all hart symbols neverland what the point having hart symbol when they don't land at all,only one game I know bonus RTP on DOA is like 36% to land wild rest of the games god know could be even lower

 

[sufferinsilence]

Inevitably when they keep on lowering RTP they'll have to make more lower variance games? Who's going to play a game like Jammin Jars on 94%? It already munches through your bankroll at almost 97%! Customers simply won't return when they get shafted like that. There'll always be first depositors but you need to retain them. It seems we're slowly growing towards a money grab period.

 

[dionysus]

Inevitably when they keep on lowering RTP they'll have to make more lower variance games? Who's going to play a game like Jammin Jars on 94%? It already munches through your bankroll at almost 97%! Customers simply won't return when they get shafted like that. There'll always be first depositors but you need to retain them. It seems we're slowly growing towards a money grab period.

sure they will
forum members maybe not (and plenty probably even then) - the B and Ms here are still chock full with players even with far ower RTPs than that

 

[sufferinsilence]

sure they will
forum members maybe not (and plenty probably even then) - the B and Ms here are still chock full with players even with far ower RTPs than that

Atleast most slots in landbased are low to medium variance and are mostly made to be "entertaining". That's if you stay away from Novomatic or Merkur There's also the whole experience of a night out compared to just opening a website and depositing some money.

 

[dionysus]

Atleast most slots in landbased are low to medium variance and are mostly made to be "entertaining". That's if you stay away from Novomatic or Merkur There's also the whole experience of a night out compared to just opening a website and depositing some money.

dont mitigate the value of a night in of entertainmetnt without the traffic, noise and lights ;P If both had identical games and RTPS I'd STILL choose 9 of 10 in than out when spinning
I LIKE getting a box of beer for 40 bucks vs $200 in drinks out

 

[Kroffe]

dont mitigate the value of a night in of entertainmetnt without the traffic, noise and lights ;P If both had identical games and RTPS I'd STILL choose 9 of 10 in than out when spinning
I LIKE getting a box of beer for 40 bucks vs $200 in drinks out

I dont think i would mind if i got $200 in my drinks.
Would probably make me start drinking again.
All i got back when i did, was ice.

 

[dionysus]

I dont think i would mind if i got $200 in my drinks.
Would probably make me start drinking again.
All i got back when i did, was ice.

enh, shake that bear ass, you might find something else floating in your drink

 

[Kroffe]

enh, shake that bear ass, you might find something else floating in your drink

Are you threatening to "roofie" me?
I should be able to shake my ass all i want without you putting anything in my drink.

 

[dionysus]

lol, you're safe from me I'm not paying airfare to some remote bear bar in the deep woods of Sweden, rockin' though they may be

 

[GameRoom]

I dont think i would mind if i got $200 in my drinks.
Would probably make me start drinking again.
All i got back when i did, was ice.

get £100 kebab and £200 drink wow is like hit a jackpot

 

[Aryol]

I would not mind the lower RTP on some places if the RTP needs to clearly visible when starting a game or better when it needs to be included in the title like Book of Dead (X %).

Btw. Kroffe not sure how often I spit water to my keyboard because of you ... you owe me at least one keyboard!

 

[Kroffe]

I would not mind the lower RTP on some places if the RTP needs to clearly visible when starting a game or better when it needs to be included in the title like Book of Dead (X %).

Btw. Kroffe not sure how often I spit water to my keyboard because of you ... you owe me at least one keyboard!

Im not sure thats fair.
Would it not be easier to not drink water while reading?
Or if you want a high-tech solution, buy one of these!

 

[Bloatgoat]

I attempted to deposit last week, with my new credit card. The previous one was blocked due to weird transactions which where perfectly legit from my side, but the bank thought different. In short: ive tried to make a payment in the UK from another country, which on paper it looked like my credit card details leaked. No it was not a payment for gambling, something completely else.

So after i not played for over a week, i got my card, and i spend 350 euro or so. When i attempted to deposit, i kept getting an error like transaction not possible. It would appear in red that i could reattempt again with half of the deposit value i entered in the first place. I'm like why there's way more then enough cash on my account(s) i dont need to lower value. So i entered 350 again > entered the 2 step auth code, which was on the 2nd time also correct, but failed again.

I logged into my bank, double checked everything, yep all green. A moment later i realised i typed in my old CCV number since i was so used to that one. Can happen. Next transaction, success! But it still had me thinkering on how fucking sleazy, dirty and disgusting casino's put triggers for players to if a deposit fails, go for half of the initial money. Or stall the withdrawl with a good-old 24 hours minimum, before locking it and actually sending it away.

Really guys; i played for 6 straight hours or so, i went from 350 + 50% deposit bonus all the way up to 1400, which was within the metric i was facing for the last months, it never gave me that big boom i was hoping for, i even played 5 games at the same time using a varied 1 to 2 euro bet a spin, all wins did'nt came random, they pretty much came all at the same moment. You dont get one game exploding and the other one being silent, play at the same provider with several offerings of their games, and you learn quickly that your random spin is always within the big box.

"Any spin is random" is just bullshit. I'm more and more done with gambling, which is a healthy sign towards slowly moving on to something else.

 

[GameRoom]

I attempted to deposit last week, with my new credit card. The previous one was blocked due to weird transactions which where perfectly legit from my side, but the bank thought different. In short: ive tried to make a payment in the UK from another country, which on paper it looked like my credit card details leaked. No it was not a payment for gambling, something completely else.

So after i not played for over a week, i got my card, and i spend 350 euro or so. When i attempted to deposit, i kept getting an error like transaction not possible. It would appear in red that i could reattempt again with half of the deposit value i entered in the first place. I'm like why there's way more then enough cash on my account(s) i dont need to lower value. So i entered 350 again > entered the 2 step auth code, which was on the 2nd time also correct, but failed again.

I logged into my bank, double checked everything, yep all green. A moment later i realised i typed in my old CCV number since i was so used to that one. Can happen. Next transaction, success! But it still had me thinkering on how fucking sleazy, dirty and disgusting casino's put triggers for players to if a deposit fails, go for half of the initial money. Or stall the withdrawl with a good-old 24 hours minimum, before locking it and actually sending it away.

Really guys; i played for 6 straight hours or so, i went from 350 + 50% deposit bonus all the way up to 1400, which was within the metric i was facing for the last months, it never gave me that big boom i was hoping for, i even played 5 games at the same time using a varied 1 to 2 euro bet a spin, all wins did'nt came random, they pretty much came all at the same moment. You dont get one game exploding and the other one being silent, play at the same provider with several offerings of their games, and you learn quickly that your random spin is always within the big box.

"Any spin is random" is just bullshit. I'm more and more done with gambling, which is a healthy sign towards slowly moving on to something else.

nice at list u got a good win, I only play Monday and Thursday my luck days,I depo 170 x2 bonus total £270,I made a big mistake I got that £100 bonus for that £100 I need to wage like £7k and I could not cash out all before I do my £7k wage what stupid bonus for £100 need £7k wage I hit this more than half of my win got stuck Never play again on @CasumoAffiliates not sure but I think @UKGC change bonus for UK first I spend my money then bonus If I want to walkway I lose £100 bonus...but @CasumoAffiliates is taking half from me half from bonus, another faile from @CasumoAffiliates oh well next time I don't play on @CasumoAffiliates lost more than half of my win like £450 every day I am losing trust on casinons baset on Malta they all have some tricks when they give somthing for free you allways lose

 

[Kroffe]

Nice bonus!
Where did you play?

Edit: Oh, and in the video, your balance is £55, meaning had this been on a "normal" bonus, you would not be able to walk away with anything before the wager was complete.
With casumos rules, you can walk away with half, or try to finish the wager.

Sure, its not a non-sticky that you can just dump, but it has the advantage of being able to walk with half your win even if you have hit bonusmoney, like you must have done.

 

[colinsunderland]

nice at list u got a good win, I only play Monday and Thursday my luck days,I depo 170 x2 bonus total £270,I made a big mistake I got that £100 bonus for that £100 I need to wage like £7k and I could not cash out all before I do my £7k wage what stupid bonus for £100 need £7k wage I hit this more than half of my win got stuck Never play again on @CasumoAffiliates not sure but I think @UKGC change bonus for UK first I spend my money then bonus If I want to walkway I lose £100 bonus...but @CasumoAffiliates is taking half from me half from bonus, another faile from @CasumoAffiliates oh well next time I don't play on @CasumoAffiliates lost more than half of my win like £450 every day I am losing trust on casinons baset on Malta they all have some tricks when they give somthing for free you allways lose

I don't understand what you are complaining about. Even if it was the other type of bonus, you would have wagering as you would be in bonus money when you hit it (as Kroffe says above). If you were playing at a non Malta based casino you wouldn't have been able to cash out either, at least at Casumo you can walk away with half. Considering you believe 99% of Malta based casinos are ran by the Russian Mafia, not sure why you are playing there anyway.

 

[CasinoNinja]

This is Conquestador casino, Lucky Oktoberfest slot. Some of the other titles like Lucky Halloween and Jingle Bells are on the dizzy heights of 93% so fill yer boots lol

I raised this with them on several emails (at the beginning I just got a normal response telling me what RTP is), I swear they used to have the higher versions and my point of contact Jan asked me a few questions around this and I showed him screenshots from other casinos.

I too wonder if it had been with the Netent acquisition that has caused this..

 

[slot_zombie]

I swear they used to have the higher versions

You are correct, they did, which was great as it was a "one stop shop" for Red Tiger and Play & Go.

I'm checking RTPs like a hawk now as I wouldn't be surprised if they drop other provider RTP next, in which case I am out.

 

[slot_zombie]

Merry Christmas from Viral Interactive (it won't be if you play this). Lower than my local arcade's slots, for pity's sake.

Another group with RTP-rigged Red Tigers and Play 'n Go on factory setting.

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Just to add to my previous post, if anyone wants a fair Red Tiger RTP I have managed to find the max settings at Royal Slots. And no I don't work for them lol.

Jingle Bells again, what a difference:

 

[GameRoom]

Nice bonus!
Where did you play?

Edit: Oh, and in the video, your balance is £55, meaning had this been on a "normal" bonus, you would not be able to walk away with anything before the wager was complete.
With casumos rules, you can walk away with half, or try to finish the wager.

Sure, its not a non-sticky that you can just dump, but it has the advantage of being able to walk with half your win even if you have hit bonusmoney, like you must have done.

no that show only my money bonus don't show on balance stupid of me I take the bonus at first place, casino they with rip are skin off if they give you £1 for free and don't want to talk about £100 total ripped off offer I remove @CasumoAffiliates casino from my bookmark they not interesting to keep players they want to rip off players by taking their wining P.S. @CasumoAffiliates have different bonus when u take it to bonus it takes half my money and half bonus so whatever u win u stuck with wage of £7k for stupid £100 bonus they block over £420 100% to make sure you lose money or 100% scam, every other casino they use are money first than in the end bonus if u wish to cancel u lose £100 if u did not use it I think @UKGC should check who @CasumoAffiliates is doing bonus @Kroffe time to remove all casino they based on Malta to they all look strange,I will play on @Novibet Rep they add so many good games and they have a lot of games now even more then @Team.Videoslots P.s. I cash out my wining 2day from @Novibet Rep 10mins later on my Paypal account love it and they have simple clear bonus u hit u point u get first £25 free no wage next £50

 

[dionysus]

why do you keep unecessarily flagging the rep to your posts?

 

[slot_zombie]

Jumpman Gaming's attitude to RTP. All set to the very lowest possible payouts.

The hugely volatile Dragon's Fire Megaways paying less return than a bookie's FOBT at..... 90%

 

[Bloatgoat]

I know for most this is just UK where lowered RTP seems to be more and more in effect. But outside of the UK most casino's either advertise with a 96% RTP on avg or a all-in-once RTP to the overall casino, i.e deposits of all players being distributed up to 96%.

@trancemonkey does'nt believe me that there are casino's actually operating in this different way, and it seems to me this is a more safe approach to the max given win done by players. With such a model you would never exceed that what players are depositing over a certain lifespan towards the casino, does it?

If i was to get a casino license and went through all the proces, i would be sure to post some inside out knowledge on these forums. But running a casino and extracting money from my audience in a skimmy ethic way is just not my thing. I work hard for my money and i deliver a excellent product for in exchange. Not a game where the house-edge is even bigger then a normal landbased casino.

 

[dionysus]

no that show only my money bonus don't show on balance stupid of me I take the bonus at first place, casino they with rip are skin off if they give you £1 for free and don't want to talk about £100 total ripped off offer I remove x casino from my bookmark they not interesting to keep players they want to rip off players by taking their wining P.S. x have different bonus when u take it to bonus it takes half my money and half bonus so whatever u win u stuck with wage of £7k for stupid £100 bonus they block over £420 100% to make sure you lose money or 100% scam, every other casino they use are money first than in the end bonus if u wish to cancel u lose £100 if u did not use it I think @UKGC should check who x is doing bonus x time to remove all casino they based on Malta to they all look strange,I will play on x they add so many good games and they have a lot of games now even more then x P.s. I cash out my wining 2day fromx10mins later on my Paypal account love it and they have simple clear bonus u hit u point u get first £25 free no wage next £50
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listen...seriously, you've gone back to add in even more unnecessary rep tags; every time you do this a rep gets flagged and these aren't even queries to the reps mentioned. You can name a casino without the @ rep tag.

If you feel the urge to draw their attention to a post I'd think one would suffice or a pm.
What this comes across as is agenda-driven...and tiresome

 

[trancemonkey]

@trancemonkey does'nt believe me that there are casino's actually operating in this different way, and it seems to me this is a more safe approach to the max given win done by players. With such a model you would never exceed that what players are depositing over a certain lifespan towards the casino, does it?.

Lies lies lies....as usual

 

[Bloatgoat]

Your lucky right now for me having those emails deleted, from that one VIP manager that stated this himself. Otherwise i would have given you his personal contact and a copy of the emails that where going on in between me and him. I repeat myself again: this particular casino had a 96 ~ 97% redistribution over all players deposits. What is it so hard to believe for you that there might be a licenced casino out there doing things the non-uk way.

Like dude; there are people having bad runs all over the place, many claims of just not lucky enough, and there are runs that are just unbelievable, any game, any spin and any slot hitting like its christmass.

 

[dionysus]

you delete your sent emails as well?

 

[Bloatgoat]

you delete your sent emails as well?

Good point dude. But i did have trashed most of it knowing the bad taste i got from Omnislots in general. Here it is. He's stating that "our RTP is above 95%" which in a previous email he responded with that they simply 'redistribute' overall players deposits with a 95 ~ 97% RTP percentage.

Really, local casino's do this. 8 blocks of machines. The avg wagering of players is redistributed among active players. How difficult is that for some people to understand here.

Please trancemonkey, do some investigation, you proberly have contacts, and i want you to ask if there's casino's with license and esp from curacao who apply such a system. It's legal if you think about it. They are not manipulating any games; they just offer a global 95% ~ 97% RTP which is in spec with any other casino.

 

[slot_zombie]

Lies lies lies....as usual

But the damning evidence of the deleted emails..

 

[trancemonkey]

But the damning evidence of the deleted emails..

If he gets the deleted emails, and they are from a reputable casino, I will be happy to email the same VIP manager and publish all the emails (if they respond).

 

[trancemonkey]

Good point dude. But i did have trashed most of it knowing the bad taste i got from Omnislots in general. Here it is. He's stating that "our RTP is above 95%" which in a previous email he responded with that they simply 'redistribute' overall players deposits with a 95 ~ 97% RTP percentage.

Really, local casino's do this. 8 blocks of machines. The avg wagering of players is redistributed among active players. How difficult is that for some people to understand here.

Please trancemonkey, do some investigation, you proberly have contacts, and i want you to ask if there's casino's with license and esp from curacao who apply such a system. It's legal if you think about it. They are not manipulating any games; they just offer a global 95% ~ 97% RTP which is in spec with any other casino.

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I have said many times, I will not comment on casinos from unregulated jurisdictions (of which Curacao is one of them). What they do or don't do is something i would not like to speculate on, but with these casinos they may well be doing some very dodgy stuff.

I will and can only comment on casinos in highly regulated markets like Malta, UKGC, Alderney, IOM, etc....

 

[GameRoom]

this year VS start lower RTP saying Uk problem with tax after they got fine £1m from UKGC from 330 register casino in malta the biggest casino online have problem with tax, but 329 other smaller casinos they don't have problem, all they did they wont £1m back paid fast so UKGC take £1 @Team.Videoslots simply charger UK players £1m by lower their RTP, and we arethe one paying the bill (we are the losers) lol is simple and easy dont play on VS or another casino they based on malta way should we pay their bills by lower their RTP, just join casino they are based on Gibraltar or Island of man I start playing on @Novibet Rep casino cash out on PayPal 10min even more games then Vs they have and they are based on Island of man, they good bonus new page so on I play almost 1 month i hade no problem at all love it