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But seriously.... Hillary?
Is anyone in this day and age this stupid?
Why is the video not showing in my post? I guess I am stupid?
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Is anyone in this day and age this stupid?
Why is the video not showing in my post? I guess I am stupid?
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yes except hilary is not the president of the usa...she didn't win...so it really doesn't matter anymore.....and why all of you trump supporters and trump himself as well as kellyann keep bringing her up is a mystery to all of us. get over it you won the election...he is your president... and you offering her up as some comparison is not really the same thing.
however...president trump conducting official white house business, top secret info being exchanged right there at the dinner table with mar a lago members/guests looking on as they spread top secret papers on the table, taking calls is quite the scene and with guests capturing it all on their phones....but yes let's bring up hilary and her effen emails.
oh and but where are those 22 million emails bush, cheney and company had on their private server that went missing?
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With Hillary as the democratic nominee we had no choice.
As far as your posts, does Montreal have a tin foil hat producer? If not, please check with Dunover........... you are seriously in need of one. He may even give you a discount!
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trump won the election....you posted this video of hilary today....president trump blamed hilary for something just the other day....i wasn't talking about during the election ..i know she was the opposition....i am talking about the fact trump and company keep bringing her up even after the election.....so i'm not understanding. hilary is history. why would you post a video of her today....why? to what end. for what purpose?
as for your tin foil hat comment....wow....so clever...and funny...i'm rolling in the aisles....not.
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Because you mentioned her in this comment AND the clip amuses me!
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The reason the left lost the election is in their unrelenting obsession for "tolerance" they themselves became "intolerable".
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You mean how they are intolerable of a president who constantly lies?
You mean how they are intolerable of man who calls women fat pigs and ugly?
You mean how they are intolerable of man who says he can do wtvr he wants to women cuz he's famous?
You mean how they are intolerable of a president who started his campaign by calling all Mexican immigrants drug dealers, crooked and rapists?
Or do you mean they are intolerable of a president who has been in office for a month and already has gone to his golf course 3 weekends in a row...."working weekend".., where guests and members of mar a Lago can hob nob with the president and get a glimpse of all the work he's doing right in front of them....even the classified top secret work...
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I'm sorry for those swedish people who suffered a horrible terrorist attack there.
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Yeah, me too! The sad part is that noone in this country knows where it took place. It's a lot of speculations about whether Trump was high during his speach though, and where the hell he gets his information from.
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Japan is the only country to spend more per capita on healthcare than the USA, and they have excellent universal healthcare.
While our system has it's flaws, we provide universal health care at less money than the US spends per citizen to NOT provide it.
UK and most other western nations manage too.
It's devastating enough to face cancer, or a pre-term baby, without being in debt for the rest of your life. Pharaceutical companies and labs and medical personel still make livings under our model.
I'll admit that we pay higher taxes for the privilege of taking care of all our citizens. Many of us do not have drug coverage. But I know a few years back that a US friend said his MONTHLY premiums for heathcare were $1600. That's more than many of my friends take home in a month. Working people.
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You're making my point for me. The left should have won hands down, why didn't they?
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The healthcare issue needs to be solved in the US one way or another, along with immigration, social security, tax reform and the national debt. I guess I'll have to give the free market a chance but it does not solve the problem of all the money wasted on administration costs.
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Yeah, must have been the same people that were involved in the bowling green massacre
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Yeah, must have been the same people that were involved in the bowling green massacre
And don't forget Trump's tweet about the attack at the Louvre just a few weeks ago (which never happened either).
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And don't forget Trump's tweet about the attack at the Louvre just a few weeks ago (which never happened either).
I'm sorry? I seem to remember you saying you were done with this thread.
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I think social security would be just fine if the government would pay back what it "borrowed" years ago.
""""Government Owes $2.7 Trillion to Social Security. The government has embezzled all surplus Social Security revenue, generated by the 1983 payroll tax hike, and spent the money on wars and other government programs. None of the money was saved or invested in anything."""
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Few budgetary concepts generate as much unintended confusion and deliberate misinformation as the Social Security trust funds. Political candidates of both parties accuse their opponents of “raiding” the trust funds. Some writers disparage the trust funds as “funny money,” “IOUs,” or a “fiction.” All these claims are nonsense. In fact, the Social Security trust funds are invested in Treasury securities that are every bit as sound as the U.S. government securities held by investors around the globe; investors regard those securities as being among the world’s safest investments.
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Is it fear mongering or risk assessment?
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So if I invest in myself, and spend all the money, but I sell debt securities on the open market, it's just like all the money is still there? That just seems like some crazy circular logic. How can a government "invest" in their own debt and it not be complete BS?
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its explained in that article.
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I'm sorry but there is no way you can convince me that spending money, then issuing debt to cover that spending, then paying yourself interest on said debt is in any way anything other than a Ponzi. The whole thing is funny money and government spending needs to be reigned in world-wide.
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It is a ponzi scheme and what happens to ponzi schemes eventually? lol
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And I'm sorry you seem to be paTROLLING this thread...
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I hope you win lots of money weesie
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Immigration in USA
In 1965 the US Congress changed immigration policy, now it's 50+ years later and the make up of America has drastically changed.
Figure 3. Top Ten Largest U.S. Immigrant Groups, 1960 and 2013
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In 1965 the US Congress changed immigration policy, now it's 50+ years later and the make up of America has drastically changed.
Figure 3. Top Ten Largest U.S. Immigrant Groups, 1960 and 2013
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So I assume the first chart is good cus its white people and second chart is bad cus its brown people?
Usally it all boils down to "we dont like brown people"...
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Slotplayer said not a single thing that implied what you assumed.
It appears to me they are merely stating the facts as seen in the chart.
Why is it, just STATING the facts, is cause to be called racist?
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The point is that it's humans who are immigrants, and no other facts are that interesting really.
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"""""The point is that it's humans who are immigrants, and no other facts are that interesting really.""""""
Well, I don't think Sovietskys' comment "implies" the way you see it at all.
He sees it as racism, plain and simple.
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So is the first chart better then the second chart?
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People can be purple polka dot for all I care.
For some reason, it is looked down upon to simply uphold the immigration
laws of this country. Every other country, in the world most likely, has
immigration laws. But to some people, we are terrible people for doing just that.
Why is that?
I am a third generation immigrant.
My grandfather came from Germany in 1923.
He came through Ellis Island.
He worked hard, learned English and assimilated. He was never prouder than
when he became a citizen of the USA and made a life here.
Seems to me, now days, immigrants don't want to do that.
They don't see it as a privilege, they think it's a right. And it's not.
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My 10th great grandfather Bailey came from a village near Yorkshire and settled in Massachusetts in 1610. So on that side of the family I'm an oldtimer. On my mom's side (the Swedish side), my great grand father came over in 1898 (no Ellis Island processing then). Joined the US Navy to learn English.
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My sixth Great Grandfather was a loyalist who fought alongside the British against the French in Quebec. He was captured, placed on a ship and sent to France to spend some time in prison. He was released and went back to England, and then back to the States. His son (my fifth great grandfather) fought against the British during the revolution. From what I can tell, they shared the same household. I bet those dinner conversations were entertaining.
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I'm not offended by your question, I knew it was coming.
I treat everyone exactly the same, with the same respect and dignity no matter where they come from.
My perspective is that slotplayer was factually helping to illustrate how immigration demographics have evolved over the last 50 or so years...I did not see any sinister "racism" undertones, just an informative snapshot of how presumably legal immigration has significantly changed over the years.
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I have to say that I have been watching and reading this thread since the start and I feel that it has become a silly argument about something that NONE of us can change.
It is back and forth the pro's and con's and not one thing has been settled? I don't feel that it is any longer a discussion but a idea vs idea more than a debate.
Now I don't wish to become involved in this thing but come on folks it has lost it's volume. I like just about all the pep's here at CM no matter what the political stand and this thread has lost it's way. Some pretty wild thing's have been said. And we are better than this I think.
The real time for this was before the election as that would have given it the power of debating the pro's and con's of each candidate.But the fact is over Trump is the prez. period! And we as a group can do nothing to change that. Wait and see has become my thought.
Please as a 62 yo male vet with no legs and alot of time into this country I say let's just wait and see. That is easy and no one gives up their ideology. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
It is back and forth the pro's and con's and not one thing has been settled? I don't feel that it is any longer a discussion but a idea vs idea more than a debate.
Now I don't wish to become involved in this thing but come on folks it has lost it's volume. I like just about all the pep's here at CM no matter what the political stand and this thread has lost it's way. Some pretty wild thing's have been said. And we are better than this I think.
The real time for this was before the election as that would have given it the power of debating the pro's and con's of each candidate.But the fact is over Trump is the prez. period! And we as a group can do nothing to change that. Wait and see has become my thought.
Please as a 62 yo male vet with no legs and alot of time into this country I say let's just wait and see. That is easy and no one gives up their ideology. Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff
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Thanks, I appreciate the backup. The race card does not bother me.
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A wise general knows when to retreat, is another.
I can tell by the mood of the thread that it's best to keep out of this.
In regards to the discussion on racism; I might be able to give some input.
I suspect a lot of people (not here on the forum) don't really know why racism is considered as wrong and it's probably because it's not widely talked about.
Racism is also termed as "irrational race hatred." The reason it's wrong is because it's irrational, never mind the race hatred part, that has nothing to do with it.
And it's irrational because there's no good reason for it. <----- That's why racism is wrong.
Racism is very similar to those old people who hate people with tattoos. (You know the type.)
Having a tattoo is not evidence of wrong doing and neither is race.
I should add, I think the usage of the word "hatred" has changed somewhere along the line to mean something else.
People forget, not all hatred is bad; there is such a thing as a rational hatred. It's rational to hate murderers for example. If people say they don't hate murderers, then we must be using a different definition of the word.
I mean it in a non-emotional way, to say that I have a strong disliking for something; I want to keep away from it.
I think people are starting to use the term "hatred" to always mean irrational hatred.
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Committing an act of war (before you ask: launching an airstrike against a sovereign state) without any mandate from the US Congress, UN or other authority just shows that America is what I said all along in my posts.
Starting wars anywhere they feel like and creating more chaos and suffering! Shoot first, ask questions second. Nothing they do will ever help the people in the region but Mr. BIG SHOT Trump thought he has to show the world that "he is a man" and can "mis"-use his powers to bomb an airfield in a sovereign country without even having clear evidence as to what happened and who has been responsible for the chemical agents but has the potential to start WWIII.
Cruel attack as it was, albeit it could be that it was indeed a rebel controlled factory that was hit, it still does not justify the US attack (as Mrs. Haley wrongly suggested in her speech, oh and she threatened that there could be more to come --> who does she think she is to threaten a sovereign country like that???). There is no mandate, the US has not been attacked, no country asked for assistance, the UN has not released a resolution etc....this is just the way the USA are handling such matters....for more proof see Iraq invasion, Cambodia war, Korea war or Vietnam war.
And by the way, banning all Syrian refugees from the US while creating at the same time scores of refugees in the country, all due to this kind of attacks, is hypocrisy at the highest level and yet again typical American.
On another note, not shaking Angela Merkel's hand in public when reporters asked and doing so repeatedly with the Egyptian "dictator" Al-Sisi says it all!
Looking forward to the answers from all the Trump "fans". ...... I will just say this: imagine the uproar in the fantastic U S of A if Assad would bomb an airfield on US soil without evidence, proof or mandate! Mr. BIG SHOT would press the red button immediately.
Starting wars anywhere they feel like and creating more chaos and suffering! Shoot first, ask questions second. Nothing they do will ever help the people in the region but Mr. BIG SHOT Trump thought he has to show the world that "he is a man" and can "mis"-use his powers to bomb an airfield in a sovereign country without even having clear evidence as to what happened and who has been responsible for the chemical agents but has the potential to start WWIII.
Cruel attack as it was, albeit it could be that it was indeed a rebel controlled factory that was hit, it still does not justify the US attack (as Mrs. Haley wrongly suggested in her speech, oh and she threatened that there could be more to come --> who does she think she is to threaten a sovereign country like that???). There is no mandate, the US has not been attacked, no country asked for assistance, the UN has not released a resolution etc....this is just the way the USA are handling such matters....for more proof see Iraq invasion, Cambodia war, Korea war or Vietnam war.
And by the way, banning all Syrian refugees from the US while creating at the same time scores of refugees in the country, all due to this kind of attacks, is hypocrisy at the highest level and yet again typical American.
On another note, not shaking Angela Merkel's hand in public when reporters asked and doing so repeatedly with the Egyptian "dictator" Al-Sisi says it all!
Looking forward to the answers from all the Trump "fans".
...... I will just say this: imagine the uproar in the fantastic U S of A if Assad would bomb an airfield on US soil without evidence, proof or mandate! Mr. BIG SHOT would press the red button immediately.
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Absolutely great job by Trump. And I see he's getting praise from 15 out of 20 countries and from both democrats and republicans.
I saw a bunch of youtube videos of syrians and some doctors pleading that the USA help them after the eye witness accounts of the attack.
They have satellites that tracked the planes from that syrian army held air base leaving and dropping the chemical bombs on the citizens. And whats even more concerning is that a Russian drone was tracked right over top of the hospital that held chemical victims that oddly enough ended up getting bombed a few hours later.
Its about time someone did something to help them out instead of letting all those kids die from such disgusting acts. And Im glad there was a pile of evidence this time to prove the syrian government did this
I saw a bunch of youtube videos of syrians and some doctors pleading that the USA help them after the eye witness accounts of the attack.
They have satellites that tracked the planes from that syrian army held air base leaving and dropping the chemical bombs on the citizens. And whats even more concerning is that a Russian drone was tracked right over top of the hospital that held chemical victims that oddly enough ended up getting bombed a few hours later.
Its about time someone did something to help them out instead of letting all those kids die from such disgusting acts. And Im glad there was a pile of evidence this time to prove the syrian government did this
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