Playfair Casino

[casinojack]

I have deposited at Playfair casino and casino33 numerous times and never a cashout, and I have also noticed that it is impossible to trigger the bonus rounds, and the playthrough is extremely high, so it is my opinion that something bogus is going on there.

Please pm me your login ID and I will look into it for you.

 

[Wildfire7]

next time you do, Pm me you top 3 games you like and I will make sure they set to the highest setting...

In my opinion the payout settings should not be tinkered with in such a frivolous fashion.
I certainly don't expect payout settings changed because a player at Casinomeister is unhappy, what about all those other players who are not members of forums such as this. Their money just quietly keeps getting taken, and they are probably never none the wiser.

Only the software provider should be able to alter payout percentages. Having the casino being able to alter them is wide open to abuse, because minor tinkering here and there for short periods will simply go unnoticed.

Mike

 

[lots0]

A long time ago a real smart guy told me to never believe someone that says more than once they never lie... and to never trust anyone that says, "trust me".

Along those same lines... if a casino makes a big deal about how fair or honest they are.... well, you get my point. The real honest outfits never even mention their own 'honesty' or 'integrity', as there is no question about their integrity.

Please don't misunderstand me. I know next to nothing about this casino. So I am not saying playfair casino is either dishonest or honest... I'm just saying that the name, 'playfair' puts me off...

 

[chjr1973]

In my opinion the payout settings should not be tinkered with in such a frivolous fashion.
I certainly don't expect payout settings changed because a player at Casinomeister is unhappy, what about all those other players who are not members of forums such as this. Their money just quietly keeps getting taken, and they are probably never none the wiser.

Only the software provider should be able to alter payout percentages. Having the casino being able to alter them is wide open to abuse, because minor tinkering here and there for short periods will simply go unnoticed.

Mike

I could not have said it better myself. If this is the case, this is just absolutely ridiculous behavior! Period!.. So what is being said is, if you don't bitch you get taken for a fool....

Unreal.

 

[casinojack]

This thread is a little dated but at the time I was stating a way for the players to have. all casino, landbased and online are able to adjust settings in a game.

 

[Wildfire7]

One of the reasons it is unfair to alter payout rates adhoc is the casino can carefully monitor the level of deposits coming in at any given time. If its a day when there are of lots of incoming smaller deposits they can set it higher than if they have a day where there are some large deposits.

Example setting 92% of somebodys 10k is better than setting 97% of someone elses 50. So in effect they can maximise their profits just by timing the tweaks to their advantage.

Obviously the casino is in business to make money, but with slots having a low house edge to start with, it just seems unnecessary to change the payout settings. Personally I think the only thing the casino should be allowed to alter is cosmetics, things which do not affect the game play.

Its a bit like having a credit card and not knowing what the interest rates are from one day to the next, all you have is a vague idea they are between this % and that %. Hence why my RTG deposits are currently set at my lowest % ie 0!

Mike

 

[Mavin1]

Now isn't this what myself, Silcnlayce, Amatrine, Greek and others were saying in the thread I started titled "Casino Owners/Reps and Affiliates and all Interested Players".

The kind of thing being discussed here is what spurs the thread I started and sorry Casino Jack but you danced around my questions/concerns very intentionally and yet here you are saying you can tweak a game for some players at a whim.
Thus again this cements the feelings that many of us have had for some time now that we are being decieved by many casinos, it's just that you are admitting it where others still aren't!

Transparency, honesty, fair play is all we ask for and players should be treated fairly not matter where they are geographically or monitarily.

 

[CURTSONLYLOVE10]

This thread is a little dated but at the time I was stating a way for the players to have. all casino, landbased and online are able to adjust settings in a game.

so this might explain y the first time i played at playfair on a 25ndb i hit everyy thing while playing coyotoe cash...5 scatters, 5 of the men which is top prize..4 coyotes...and money bags which gave me free spins like crazy...and made playthrough with no problem...to cashout a max of 50...well when i redeposted the 50.00 plus i dont know how much more i could not hit a thing...ok now i see...set the slots on ndb make people think that they can win... then when they deposit their money set it back...

i took the bonus when i deposited with the crazy wr...and could not hit anything...when i was in live chat to ask what bonuses they had the man cant remember his name right now...wanted to give me a 300% bonus with 33x wr i said oh no i cant seem to make wr...he said u did it with a 25ndb u can do it...something about the way he said it made me think u r right but i have not hit a thing since i started deposting my own money...

wow and to think that i praised casino 33 here in a thread when its creditablty was questioned last week in a thread...talked about how they had nothing to worry about it is a good casino and that there rep casinojack is here in the forum...wowwwwwwwww

 

[KasinoKing]

This thread is a little dated but at the time I was stating a way for the players to have.
all casino, landbased and online are able to adjust settings in a game.

Am I the only one reading this who went ?

We know RTG casinos can change their settings, but previously the general consensus was that others could not.
Jack, please can you supply some evidence that MG, Rival, Playtech, etc. operators are able to change their slots RTP.

KK

 

[casinojack]

Now isn't this what myself, Silcnlayce, Amatrine, Greek and others were saying in the thread I started titled "Casino Owners/Reps and Affiliates and all Interested Players".

The kind of thing being discussed here is what spurs the thread I started and sorry Casino Jack but you danced around my questions/concerns very intentionally and yet here you are saying you can tweak a game for some players at a whim.
Thus again this cements the feelings that many of us have had for some time now that we are being decieved by many casinos, it's just that you are admitting it where others still aren't!

Transparency, honesty, fair play is all we ask for and players should be treated fairly not matter where they are geographically or monitarily.

I have not danced around any of your questions, but if I had not made something clear let me know.

I thought I was helping you reach your goal, but now you saying I deceived you?

What is unfair if the slot is set at 91% or 95% ???

 

[casinojack]

so this might explain y the first time i played at playfair on a 25ndb i hit everyy thing while playing coyotoe cash...5 scatters, 5 of the men which is top prize..4 coyotes...and money bags which gave me free spins like crazy...and made playthrough with no problem...to cashout a max of 50...well when i redeposted the 50.00 plus i dont know how much more i could not hit a thing...ok now i see...set the slots on ndb make people think that they can win... then when they deposit their money set it back...

i took the bonus when i deposited with the crazy wr...and could not hit anything...when i was in live chat to ask what bonuses they had the man cant remember his name right now...wanted to give me a 300% bonus with 33x wr i said oh no i cant seem to make wr...he said u did it with a 25ndb u can do it...something about the way he said it made me think u r right but i have not hit a thing since i started deposting my own money...

wow and to think that i praised casino 33 here in a thread when its creditablty was questioned last week in a thread...talked about how they had nothing to worry about it is a good casino and that there rep casinojack is here in the forum...wowwwwwwwww

Even if I sat there playing with the settings each hour,(which we don't) it is setting the machine as a whole, not each players RDP.

Playing the machines for free or with money is the SAME settings. Please do not come to conclusions that are not correct.

 

[vegetagirl2008]

Even if I sat there playing with the settings each hour,(which we don't) it is setting the machine as a whole, not each players RDP.

Playing the machines for free or with money is the SAME settings. Please do not come to conclusions that are not correct.

Exactly which setting is changed as a whole?

 

[casinojack]

Exactly which setting is changed as a whole?

The machines RTP (example 95%)

 

[vegetagirl2008]

The machines RTP (example 95%)

So the Return To Player setting is adjusted to whose benefit the casino or the player? And why are these adjusted and are these true percentiles?

 

[casinojack]

So the Return To Player setting is adjusted to whose benefit the casino or the player? And why are these adjusted and are these true percentiles?

The lower the % the higher the house edge. RTG's lowest setting is well above what is legal in 90% of the landbased casinos.

Not sure on second question but if an operator would want a very loose slot, would probably set it as high as it can go.

as far as true, I was always under the impression they were based on 1 million spins, but as dogboy brought up earlier I was incorrect.

 

[CURTSONLYLOVE10]

Even if I sat there playing with the settings each hour,(which we don't) it is setting the machine as a whole, not each players RDP.

Playing the machines for free or with money is the SAME settings. Please do not come to conclusions that are not correct.

you say what u want...u were not there when i played...i know for sure that i hit everthing imangable on the 25.00 free chip...i deposited many times after wards and came to the conslusion that i could not win when i deposited my own money...i could not hit anything hear me anything....thats when i stopped depositing....

granted cs is wonderful, and i got payed the next day for the 25ndb i won off of...but as i repeat nothing nothing nothing when i deposited..i even stopped takeing the bonuses thinking that maybe just the wr is too high and i could win something if i just take no bonues...wrong

 

[casinojack]

you say what u want...u were not there when i played...i know for sure that i hit everthing imangable on the 25.00 free chip...i deposited many times after wards and came to the conslusion that i could not win when i deposited my own money...i could not hit anything hear me anything....thats when i stopped depositing....

granted cs is wonderful, and i got payed the next day for the 25ndb i won off of...but as i repeat nothing nothing nothing when i deposited..i even stopped takeing the bonuses thinking that maybe just the wr is too high and i could win something if i just take no bonues...wrong

Sorry you had a bad run, and I can see where one MIGHT think that, but I can verify RTG does not have this capability.

 

[CURTSONLYLOVE10]

Sorry you had a bad run, and I can see where one MIGHT think that, but I can verify RTG does not have this capability.

check my history and pm me with what u think make sure u check the history of the free chip against my deposits..

also check for casino 33

 

[casinojack]

check my history and pm me with what u think make sure u check the history of the free chip against my deposits..

also check for casino 33

I will be more than happy to. Can you PM me your login ID ? I will do this Monday as I am home today.

 

[deucebag]

Am I the only one reading this who went ?

We know RTG casinos can change their settings, but previously the general consensus was that others could not.
Jack, please can you supply some evidence that MG, Rival, Playtech, etc. operators are able to change their slots RTP.

KK

I am fairly sure that most online casino softwares don't allow the operators to adjust the RTP. A Rival operator recently stated in the forum that they can't (too lazy to search it up), MG casinos seem to have the same payback at all casinos (average payouts are published), Wagerworks has RTP on their paytables and it's the same everywhere.

RTG is one of the exceptions.

 

[casinojack]

I am fairly sure that most online casino softwares don't allow the operators to adjust the RTP. A Rival operator recently stated in the forum that they can't (too lazy to search it up), MG casinos seem to have the same payback at all casinos (average payouts are published), Wagerworks has RTP on their paytables and it's the same everywhere.

RTG is one of the exceptions.

Being I am currently emplyed byt a RTg shop, I will only speak for RTG.

But in my previous post I was inferring the land based. I will allow other OP's to speak for their programs, as things change often in this industry.

Have a great weekend all, I am going to meet someone for lunch but will be on later.

 

[4 of a kind]

next time you do, Pm me you top 3 games you like and I will make sure they set to the highest setting...

Now this is ridicules! Are you kidding me with this statement?


Can you tweak the video poker for me? I'll pm you my favorite 3 games and deposit 2k if you put them on max?

 

[4 of a kind]

This thread is a little dated but at the time I was stating a way for the players to have. all casino, landbased and online are able to adjust settings in a game.

Land based casino's have to send a technician to each individual slot machine to change the chip when they want to change RTP. They can't just flip a switch or enter into a computer as it appears by your statements that you can.

 

[casinojack]

Now this is ridicules! Are you kidding me with this statement?


Can you tweak the video poker for me? I'll pm you my favorite 3 games and deposit 2k if you put them on max?

In another forum we had posted the actual RTP of the machines, and one of the users had asked me to do something similar here. I did NOT being I didn't want to be seen as marketing for players here.

If you notice some of the video poker is already set to highest settings we can set.

Most of our machines are set to the highest setting as it is.

 

[casinojack]

Land based casino's have to send a technician to each individual slot machine to change the chip when they want to change RTP. They can't just flip a switch or enter into a computer as it appears by your statements that you can.

Used to be, and is the normal, but machines with jackpots, I know of several where this is maintained by a central server. I have to go now, for real, as I am running late. Ill be on in a few hours.