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Pick the worst casino for 2004

chuchu59 said:
Surprise,surprise,my vote goes to intercasino for their arrogant attitude.


I know you're mad about the $100 bonus, Chuchu. But don't you think listing Intercasino in this thread is a bit unreasonable? :(
 
chuchu59 said:
Surprise,surprise,my vote goes to intercasino for their arrogant attitude.

I must admit, I enjoy playing Intercasino and they've always seemed more than fair with me. Good games selection and prompt payment etc. The curt attitude of the chap who posted here did put me off them a little though. I don't mean that in a nasty way, and I don't understand the background or whatever, I just found his/her stance a bit aggresive.

No offence intended to anyone :o

I vote the one that ripped that nineteen year old guy off, Kiss was it? No fair :(
 
bethug said:
Please let your pick be base on poor customer service, bad terms or poor quality site

My pick goes too the Connectocasino group

I've stayed almost exclusively with reputable casinos and softwares. Microgaming, Boss Media, Cryptologic, Odds-On, and Playtech.

Out of all my experience with these casinos, I only have gripes with one. And that was Kiss Casino. I have my own little story about them. But it doesn't matter. And the deal where they did not pay that 19 year old kid from Indiana was really lowest of the low. Good riddance to Kiss Casino.

Oh, and let's not forget, Goodfellows. lol the one whose website said they would take care of you like "family". :lolup:
 
paul1 said:
Oh, and let's not forget, Goodfellows. lol the one whose website said they would take care of you like "family". :lolup:


Ooops, this thread was supposed to be about 2004. Sorry about that, Bethug. But still, thinking back about Goodfellows made me laugh. I can laugh at it now. Back then, though, I guess it wasn't so funny. :)
 
bethug said:
My pick goes too the Connectocasino group

This is some hard-on you've got for them, and it all stems from that incident earlier this year when you vocally accused them of "stealing" $100 from you across all the forums; you turned out to be in error and suffered a tad of embarrassment in the process. Since then, having failed to acknowledge your mistake, you've shifted to calling them "liars" at every available opportunity.

LOL.
 
caurso, you a straight up be add the other letters

Vist other forums and see how many complaints they have, they also change terms in mid stream on a few players.

They lied to me staight up when i called and ask who was there sister casino. if they told the truth, i would not have thought they use my info. they out right lied and said they was not related to detination poker.

Back to topic who the worst casino group for 2004

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there to many complaints
 
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Casinos "lying" about affiliations with other casinos doesn't make them crooked, it makes them shifty SOABs - and many casinos out there have been economical with the truth in this regard at one time or another. That Connect and Destination are associated (unproven but likely) doesn't make them crooks. If you can find one unresolved legitimate complaint - NOT the packet of multi-account heresay that routinely gets posted - I'll rethink. Until then, to suggest they're the "worst casino of 2004" on this basis is complete piffle.
 
I run a real estate business, if you call me and ask one of my agents is damian your broker, then call another agent and ask is damian your broker, and he says know and hang up. Not only there somethig wrong in my eyes crooked.

Connectto casino out right lied, if they would of said we are part of destiation poker from the start and not hanging the phone up on me, i would have never posted. Why would a casino hide who they belong too. Unless they up to know good.

Caurso once again, you on my jock for what?

They get way to many complaints, way to many, so that the reason i pick them as the worst group.

and i pick you as a bitter negative poster of all time :rolleyes:
send me your email so i can send you $10.00 so you can get some vigra
 
bethug said:
I run a real estate business, if you call me and ask one of my agents is damian your broker, then call another agent and ask is damian your broker, and he says know and hang up. Not only there somethig wrong in my eyes crooked.

Connectto casino out right lied, if they would of said we are part of destiation poker from the start and not hanging the phone up on me, i would have never posted. Why would a casino hide who they belong too. Unless they up to know good.

Caurso once again, you on my jock for what?

They get way to many complaints, way to many, so that the reason i pick them as the worst group.

and i pick you as a bitter negative poster of all time :rolleyes:
send me your email so i can send you $10.00 so you can get some vigra
I do not see any reason for offensive tones...
 
padanian said:
I do not see any reason for offensive tones...
Maybe we should start a new thread "Most Annoying Poster of 2004" :D
Just kidding of course :lolup:

But please be mellow...

And Casinomeister Awards are in the process - should be posted the first week of January (2004 ain't over yet). My nomination for worst casino? You'll have to wait and see. :D

Past awards:
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/meister_awards/bestworst2003.php
https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-awards/year-2002/
https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-awards/
 
Yup, Damian always turns on the asshole talk for asshole laughs when things don't go his way. He used to do a lot of that stuff on Sucks, and it always got the goofs gurgling.

To date nobody has proved a direct link between Destination and Connect. Probable but not certain. Cirrus is not Virtual, yet they were widely held to be connected when they started up. They shared a lot of facilities, but they weren't management-linked. Assuming Des & Con ARE linked, fudging the issue of the connection is not a crime and is widely practiced (which doesn't make it any better). There have been many issues - and all have been resolved. There has also been a lot of bullshit, hot air and innuendo of no substance whatsoever.

Lying about connections (if it turns out to be the case) is unsavoury but NOT a crime, PERIOD. It's just unsavoury. And as long as casinos RESOLVE THEIR ISSUES they're pardonable. It's the unresponsive ones, those that don't respond to mediator intervention, that are the real bad apples.
 
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caurso, I think bryan prove a link between the two, also when i called there support the same person pick the phone up. That enought proof for me.

Why are you taken up for the so much caurso. Why? Can you say one thing postive before the end of 2004
 
My awards for the worst casinos in 2004:

1) The most evil: Brandy Casino (cheated me by replacing a promotion weblink by another one)

2) The most stupid: Placemybet: They tried twice to cheat me out of the bonus and were eventually convinced by benign intervention of a webmaster to credit my money back.

3) The most annoying : Connecttocasino. Continous changing of bonus rules and conditions.
 
Bravo!

caruso said:
Casinos "lying" about affiliations with other casinos doesn't make them crooked, it makes them shifty SOABs - and many casinos out there have been economical with the truth in this regard at one time or another. That Connect and Destination are associated (unproven but likely) doesn't make them crooks. If you can find one unresolved legitimate complaint - NOT the packet of multi-account heresay that routinely gets posted - I'll rethink. Until then, to suggest they're the "worst casino of 2004" on this basis is complete piffle.


Right on, Caruso. Damian and I will probably always disagree regarding ConnectoCasino. I have played at CTC for a long time, have won and been paid per their T&Cs and had no problems. Of course, I don't have multiple accounts, play games disallowed by the T&Cs when I am trying to make WR, nor attempt to defeat the house edge by wrangling over the rules. Now I am not suggesting that anyone in this forum would do such a thing. That would just be stupid and unproductive. :confused:
 
Worst Casinos of 2004

HAMPTON CASINO

PRISM CASINO

KISS CASINO

CONNECT TO CASINO

CIRRUS CASINO

ALL VIRTUAL CASINOS

LOG ON CASINO


What do they all have in common?

a) All the source of numerous player complaints

b) All RTG casinos :rolleyes:

c) All of them 'defended and justified' their outright theft of winnings.

d) All have 'spokespersons' that post on gambling forums and further alienate
players with convoluted logic, and smart ass responses.
 
paul1 said:
I know you're mad about the $100 bonus, Chuchu. But don't you think listing Intercasino in this thread is a bit unreasonable? :(
I thought we lived in a free world,where we can express our views freely. Just because many posters do not agree does not mean that I cannot give intercasino the thumbs down. I stand by my statement that their attitude is arrogant and you can read through the thread again. If the Omni case had not been resolved,wouldnt it also be a candidate here? There are many posters who love intercasino and you can look at the other thread where accolades and bouquets flowed in when a poster asked what was good about intercasino. That was their view and I respect that. Strange,though,this came at a time when there were several posts against them.
 
Since I am mostly a poker player I would like to add a couple of names but they are poker rooms.

Choice Poker for seemingly running off with all the players money just a month or 2 after launch. They needed the software provider and largest poker room using that software to bail them out.

Yourpokernetwork for giving 36 hours notice to their skins that they were going out of business, one of those skins was Delta Poker, the second oldest poker room on the net. Nutzpoker deserves mentioning, they were another skin. They used their players email list after they closed for "a special offer from Empire Poker" basically affiliate spam disguised as an apology from Nutz.

Honorable mention goes to Bigbetpoker who still owes me money. This room was run by Odd On and went bust although they once denied this association but after I proved it they never answered another one of my emails about it. Oh well it was less then $100.
 
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pokeraddict said:
Honorable mention goes to Bigbetpoker who still owes me money. This room was run by Odd On and went bust although they once denied this association but after I proved it they never answered another one of my emails about it. Oh well it was less then $100.


I didn't know Odds-On had live poker. Is that Odds-On as in English Harbour?

There's a "bigbetpoker" website that I just looked at. Is it no longer?

Can you tell me a little more about this, Poker Addict?

Thx
 
I don't have a worst one. I always got paid. In some instances it took some work on my part (BJballroom) but that's hardly enough to qualify them for the worst casino of the year. Any casino that steals and lies is a good candidate though.

So my advice is to keep reading on forums like this and you know what casinos to stay away from. It's good for your heart.
 
www.bigbetpoker.com is their link. They went bust in February. Yes they were a part of English Harbour group. There was even an englishharbourpoker.com skin and a couple other odds on casinos logged right into it. Pokerpot was another skin. A funny store about Pokerpot is that they had the pleasure of failing twice in a year as they were a skin of both bigbet, then after it failed joined YPN which failed just a few weeks ago.

Anyway the ecashier of Bigbet was Virtual Exchange. My homework showed they were hosted on the same server as several odds ons, at least a year ago they were. I emailed them and asked them if they only banked odds on casinos, and if they banked all odds on casinos, they said yes to both. My prop manager at bigbet also confirmed that he got paid directly from odds on to run the room.

I was able to cash out my entire balance at bigbet but was owed prop money. This was back in February when they failed. They left their cashier open in the software for a few days after the sudden no notice closure first thing on a Monday morning. Although it was slow I received my money from this cashout. Prop payday was Friday. It showed up in my account by the software like it always did but since the cashout and deposit part of the cashier was disabled I could not cash it out through the software. My emails were eventually ignored and when I called Virtual Exchange they told me I would have to email Big Bet and could do nothing if Big Bet did not approve it and do it manually. Like I said though this was all the same place. My account was locked so I can no longer log onto bigbetpoker.com under this account which has since become only a play money poker room.

If I remember correctly it was $78 they owe me. After all the endless cash I took out of there it was just a drop in the bucket, I shared in a $25,000 bad beat jackpot as a prop. Not paying any rake I was allowed to cash out my $6250 win although it took a month and endless phone calls to Virtual Exchange. The $12,500 winner in the hand said it took 2 months to get his.
 
bethug said:
thanks for the info, I dont understand how can a online poker room fail, they get the rake.

Four failed rooms come to mind this year.

Propoker widely believed to be a scam that used bots.

Choice appears to have run off with the money. The Choice Poker you see now is a part of the ACR network and is banked by Betcris under new ownership, the old room was a standalone that had a few skins that have now all joined ACR.

Bigbet had ridiculous daily promotions and huge overlay tournaments that blew between $600 and $1000 a day. They paid out almost $30,000 in bad beat jackpots over a 3 month span, most of this money was paid out to props who never paid a dime in rake. They also blew a huge promotion where they guaranteed a tournament winner would win $2500, then cancelled the $100 buy in tourney when less then 10 people registered. When cashouts got slow due to the massive amount of money they gave away people ran.

YPN got a terrible reputation in many online players minds due to involvement with some very unpopular people in the online poker community. They then had a terrible rake structure that discouraged players and a bonus that was literally impossible to clear They also had huge overlays in tournaments.

A mistake it seems many stuggling rooms make is that they make $xxx guaranteed tournaments. These usually just attract people that will hit and run these tournaments and it also takes the existing ring game players out of those raked games into a house losing tournament.

Also keep in mind in the small rooms many of the players are being paid by the house to help keep games going. They arent cheating as they have no advantage other then the pay, they just have rules they must follow. The house makes very little if any money off of them. Often they lose money due to deposit and cashout costs and promos prop players are allowed to participate in. There is also usually a 5-10% of pay paid in prop management fees.

Sorry I know I got the thread off topic, I was just trying to help answer some questions.
 
pokeraddict said:
Sorry I know I got the thread off topic, I was just trying to help answer some questions.

Thanks for all that info, Poker Addict. I know we took the thread off topic. But that was good reading. I had wondered why English Harbour wasn't into the poker scene. But apparently they were and I did not know. It's been a long time since I was in English Harbour and I do remember Virtual Exchange. With the enormous growth of poker, you'd think English Harbour/Odds-On would want to be part of it. So are they completely out of it right now? Is that bigbetpoker link just for play money? What was YPN? What room was an example of it?

Imho, I still like Paradise Poker best of any that I've tried. Fast and smooth software and plenty of action. (the other night I noticed Table Bronte. I thought of Vortrans' girlfriend lol)

Thanks again for the info. Sounds like you've been around the block.
;)
 
Big Bet is only play money now and YPN rooms were DeltaPoker, PokerDreams, PokerPot, TipsyPoker, NutzPoker, Pokeroo, SeniorPoker and CheckorBet. Not really household names except maybe Delta. Only Planet has been around longer. Delta is closed for now but insist they will be back. They had their own stand alone room for years and got invited to YPN (Yourpokernetwork) but obviously now realize this was a mistake.

As far as Paradise they have great software and will now have much more respect now that Sportingbet owns them.


Sorry again to derail thread, we probably should have started new one in poker section.
 
pokeraddict said:
Big Bet is only play money now and YPN rooms were DeltaPoker, PokerDreams, PokerPot, TipsyPoker, NutzPoker, Pokeroo, SeniorPoker and CheckorBet. Not really household names except maybe Delta. Only Planet has been around longer. Delta is closed for now but insist they will be back. They had their own stand alone room for years and got invited to YPN (Yourpokernetwork) but obviously now realize this was a mistake.

As far as Paradise they have great software and will now have much more respect now that Sportingbet owns them.


Sorry again to derail thread, we probably should have started new one in poker section.

Thanks again, Poker Addict. I read your other post a few times and figured it out. I had heard of Delta but did not know of the others.

Ah yes, Planet. Fond memories. I saw an ad from them a few years ago and that was what prompted me to get into this online gambling stuff. Now I'm a full fledged sickie. woohoo!

Thx. Cya in the Poker Section next time. :D
 

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