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Online gambling has become a disgrace for UK players

Today I get a email saying I played un-socialable hours and I was at risk of developing addiction and limits would be applied to my account :rolleyes:
I dont get it why operators do not ask this to players, to get an understanding of why they play at such hours.

Did they try at least? Or you just got a limit imposed?
 
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Over the weekend I did a quick deposit of £50 at Slots Temple, was at 1AM when I got home with the other half from a west-end trip.

Today I get a email saying I played un-socialable hours and I was at risk of developing addiction and limits would be applied to my account :rolleyes:

Don't you just love the UK right now
MR Q they sad same thing to me, I told them I can order pizza 3am in London way cant I play, if you worry ppl play after midnight close the casino down from midnight to 6am, they never send replay lol
 
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again - why the hell are online casinos open “overnight” if they are going to question people who play during those hours?
Exactly. But it's the whole problem at at the moment....one hand says please play at our casino and here's incentives to do so then the other hands says oh no you're playing too much were restricting your ac....so why did you send me that promo encouraging me to play then?
 
Casino Rewards are another complete joke in this regard.

I have lost count of the number of times I have made a deposit there between 12am and 1am and before the "deposit has been successful" popup has even finished updating, I get a popup saying....

"Still playing after hours Martin? Please visit RG page" blah blah blah yada yada yada

Yeah whatever CR. Fuck RIGHT off you oity toity namby pamby virtual signalling nannying bunch of fucking patronising do gooding la de das....

STILL playing, you say? I haven't even BLOODY STARTED playing yet because I literally deposited a whopping THREE SECONDS AGO, you bunch of FUCKWITTED MORONS!!

And here's the cherry on top. Sometimes, this has happened after making my first deposit at CR in three weeks. I make a point of NEVER depositing twice at the same CR casino in a MONTH, let alone a DAY.

AND this is against a backdrop of me having a monthly deposit limit at CR that was set by.....CR THEMSELVES, one that I am unable to change manually! If I want to increase my monthly deposit limit, I essentially would have to fire off a begging letter to them via e-mail.

SCUUHHHHHHROO. THAT!

Of course, this is coming from the very same CR who also happen to send you emails JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT :rolleyes: telling you about a great match bonus offer with their utterly ridiculous 200x wagering attached to it. One of which encourages you to make THREE deposits in the space of......24 hours :rolleyes:

R. G. MY. ARSE.

Or the e-mail which includes the scarcely believable story of a woman who hit the Mega Moolah jackpot while tucking into a Greggs sausage roll AND taking one up the Khyber pass and receiving a reach around....from another player who hit the Mega Moolah jackpot three months prior :rolleyes:

Basically, to sum it up in the style of a YT commenter....

CR: We care about RG

Also CR: We don't give a flying toss about RG, because we want to tempt you with bonus match offers that are among the most -EV for the player in the entire global online casino market. But we have to be seen to be pretending to care about it, otherwise we would not get our hands on any of your MONEEEEEEYYYY!!

FUCK OFF ALREADY, you bunch of hypocrites.
 
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Doest have to be guys, see it from the positive angle: At UK focussed operator L&L you can already play Dead, Dead or Deader.
 
Casino Rewards are another complete joke in this regard.

I have lost count of the number of times I have made a deposit there between 12am and 1am and before the "deposit has been successful" popup has even finished updating, I get a popup saying....

"Still playing after hours Martin? Please visit RG page" blah blah blah yada yada yada

Yeah whatever CR. Fuck RIGHT off you oity toity namby pamby virtual signalling nannying bunch of fucking patronising do gooding la de das....

STILL playing, you say? I haven't even BLOODY STARTED playing yet because I literally deposited a whopping THREE SECONDS AGO, you bunch of FUCKWITTED MORONS!!

And here's the cherry on top. Sometimes, this has happened after making my first deposit at CR in three weeks. I make a point of NEVER depositing twice at the same CR casino in a MONTH, let alone a DAY.

AND this is against a backdrop of me having a monthly deposit limit at CR that was set by.....CR THEMSELVES, one that I am unable to change manually! If I want to increase my monthly deposit limit, I essentially would have to fire off a begging letter to them via e-mail.

SCUUHHHHHHROO. THAT!

Of course, this is coming from the very same CR who also happen to send you emails JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT :rolleyes: telling you about a great match bonus offer with their utterly ridiculous 200x wagering attached to it. One of which encourages you to make THREE deposits in the space of......24 hours :rolleyes:

R. G. MY. ARSE.

Or the e-mail which includes the scarcely believable story of a woman who hit the Mega Moolah jackpot while tucking into a Greggs sausage roll AND taking one up the Khyber pass and receiving a reach around....from another player who hit the Mega Moolah jackpot three months prior :rolleyes:

Basically, to sum it up in the style of a YT commenter....

CR: We care about RG

Also CR; We don't give a flying toss about RG, because we want to tempt you with bonus match offers that are among the most -EV for the player in the entire global online casino market. But we have to be seen to be pretending to care about it, otherwise we would not get our hands on any of your MONEEEEEEYYYY!!

FUCK OFF ALREADY, you bunch of hypocrites.

Not offering personally, however do you want a hug mate? :p
 
Few sites have asked me SOW I just change brand. My favourite was L&L can't use them but still recommend to friends that like a punt. Some sites I found apollo gaming is automatically requesting SOW upon signing up. This is the final nail for UK sites when I think October it comes into force where players have to provide SOW. none u.k is the way forward if you still want a gamble
 
No offence but i do not need to.

You seriously saying you believe in 2 years time throughout Europe no one can spend more than 50 euros at a time and no more than a 1000 a month.

So by that means no one could buy a car, a house ,a phone ,a TV , or Virtually anything.

No going to a restaurant for a fancy meal or going a Holiday.

So guessing there would be no need to control spending as every business would be bankrupt and closed so nothing to spend on anyway.

And you truly believe that will happen in 2 years lol.

Sorry to jump in Paul,

I’m 26 I have a fair amount in my current account. Not a massive amount, I tried to withdraw £5k and was denied by my own bank as they needed proof why i wanted to withdraw £5k.

Me being me, I don’t need to verify that? It’s my money. Am I in the wrong?

You tell me
 
TBH it was probably your bank just checking that you wasn’t sending the 5k to a Nigerian prince, due diligence and all that.

While I get it might be annoying, I don’t think it was totally unreasonable for them to ask what it was for, not many reasons you would need it in cash, so they were probably just trying to protect you, and ultimately themselves against any kind of fraud.

I can see it from both sides really.
 
TBH it was probably your bank just checking that you wasn’t sending the 5k to a Nigerian prince, due diligence and all that.

While I get it might be annoying, I don’t think it was totally unreasonable for them to ask what it was for, not many reasons you would need it in cash, so they were probably just trying to protect you, and ultimately themselves against any kind of fraud.

I can see it from both sides really.

By that logic you can also say a society with 10pm curfew is also logical because a higher percentage of crimes happen at night.

They don’t however question when I deposit 2-4K a month on online slots…🥴

if I want to take out £5k of my own money I should be allowed to no questions asked… do you want this in 50s or 20s sir should be the only question
 
By that logic you can also say a society with 10pm curfew is also logical because a higher percentage of crimes happen at night.

They don’t however question when I deposit 2-4K a month on online slots…🥴

if I want to take out £5k of my own money I should be allowed to no questions asked… do you want this in 50s or 20s sir should be the only question
Unfortunately, as reelsoffun eluded to, scams are rampant and banks are extra careful these days about people withdrawing large amounts of cash. They'll do their due diligence to protect the customer.

Scammers ask for gift cards, bitcoin via special arms and other means of getting money from victims without leaving much of a trace. They will usually tell the victim not to tell the bank the truth , to lie and even get angry at them if they begin to show signs that they might be talking to the bank about what's happening.

A byproduct of this extra caution is an inconvenience for us when it's an innocuous situation.
 
Four days ago I made a £100 deposit at VS. Following my narrow escape from Who's The Bride's arse-spelunking hot poker torture room, I made a conscious decision to seek out less volatile games, and of course, had a very keen eye on RTPs.

Here are my results after four days of play from a £100 deposit. All play was done on 20p/25p spins.

Around 16,000 spins, an overall RTP comfortably north of !00% (hence the £258 withdrawable balance), and extended out over four days (obviously not four days of constant spinning away, just a a few hours in the evenings).

Yes this was a lucky run, obviously, but if you're smart on RTPs and volatility, decent playtimes from modest deposits are still entirely possible, and even the chance of a withdrawal when you're done!

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Ur spawn never ceases to amaze me.

Good to see BTG propping up the rest tho!!

It's been a pretty spawny session yes, but the overarching point is that with a bit of shopping around it's still possible to find decent online slots experiences.

I carried out a similar exercise over Covid, to seek out a selection of 'Covid Friendly Slots' - (i.e. when we were all locked down in our houses and might indulge in extra slotting to fill the hours) - and presented them in a video. The key points were solid RTPs and sensible volatilities, and tending towards older games without nonsense like feature buys, feature gambles, 'enhanced spins', stored value mechanics and all that other bollocks that was proliferating at the time.

Some of the games on that list I suspect some people wouldn't even give a second look to because they're 'boring', but Win & Replay, for example, is running with an RTP of 96.99%.

If I load in a game and it's got an RTP of 94% it immediately gets closed down, no exceptions. 94% or lower can absolutely fuck off. 94.xx% I'll occasionally consider depending on how it's done. (3Dice at the very low end have a couple of games at 94.98% and 94.99%, I'll play those.)

95% or higher is where it really needs to be, but ideally 96% or higher. They are still out there if you go looking.

I don't think there's any argument left around the whole notion that '94% is only 2% lower than 96%', we all now know to consider it a 50% increase in the house edge that in the medium to long term will absolutely destroy us as players.

As for BTG and Lucky Streak Mk 2, I'm such an absolute sucker for that game even though it's a proper turd the vast majority of times I play it, they've nailed the old UK fruit machine aesthetic so well.
 
I am not sure what the feeling is in other countries because for 1, I obviously don’t play there and 2, we don’t see a lot posted but as UK player, I am beyond disgusted at what is happening.

I happily played for 6 years. Admittedly having the odd whinge when I hit a bad patch but other than that, I took the rough with the smooth and NEVER once felt the need to go to “chat” to complain about the way a game played.

In the past two and a half years, that’s a completely different story and particularly the past 6 months. In all honesty, it gets worse by the day. I can’t imagine for a second that this industry is being regulated properly. If it was providers (and let’s not forget, they are the main culprits but Casinos are hosting them), wouldn’t not be getting away with the blatant, filthy cheating that is happening right now.

In the early days of gambling online, if I hadn’t hit a bonus after depositing £60, (40-60p spins) I would think that was the session from hell. That was consistent for years, it genuinely felt that you were getting a fair crack of the whip.

Fast forward 8 years and the experience feels nowhere near the same. People will say volatility has changed etc. Yes it has but I still had some amazing wins and regularly playing these games.

Not now though, no sir, you can easily deposit £300-£500 without even seeing a bonus. That is quite simply disgraceful. Yes, okay, once in a while that might happen but for it to become the norm, no way, not a chance, unless you are playing against a slot that is programmed so the odds are ridiculously against you.

I could write pages but there’s little point, as whatever goes against the grain on this forum is quickly brushed under the carpet. If you’re a UK player and you’ve been thinking hang on a minute, am I being screwed over here? The answer is yes you are. It’s FOBT GATE all over again.

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I'm with you on this.

Once upon a time in a previous life making the wager and a good cash out on a deposit bonus was consistent and often.

Low stakes £50 deposit would last 3-5 hours playing a good mix of medium to high volatility games and my sessions consisted of Jurassic Park (high volatility), Batman Returns, Terminator etc. All netent and alot of barcrest slots. Can't last no more than 20_40 mins now without going broke on those slots. That's enough to prove sheer RTP manipulation and dishonesty across the board. Both provider and Casino!

Pragmatic and their consistent 10x bonus and never seen a max fish caught.
Or how about the extra chance if scatters or Feature lie? Or Big bass splash all extra features that I gave had many times and seen many times on stream or YouTube that pays 10x every time. The good old misconception that your in for a good return for compromising volatility for these so called super features that are inferior features in reality.

I'll stop at this as I can write a novel about it.
I have in the past year had over 250 what o call high stake bonuses on big bass and pizza pizza ranging between £5 and £36 when I've been up in a session from other providers and took the risk. All payed 15x or less!

Verdict. We are being ripped off and scammed. Funny thing is it's all been since covid and we are on the brink of a world war?

Coincidence?
Just think how many people gamble these days because of low income, cost of living and the social anxiety. Would that not be by design and highly advantageous to greedy individuals that are taking advantage of all these factors and the industry?
 
I am not sure what the feeling is in other countries because for 1, I obviously don’t play there and 2, we don’t see a lot posted but as UK player, I am beyond disgusted at what is happening.

I happily played for 6 years. Admittedly having the odd whinge when I hit a bad patch but other than that, I took the rough with the smooth and NEVER once felt the need to go to “chat” to complain about the way a game played.

In the past two and a half years, that’s a completely different story and particularly the past 6 months. In all honesty, it gets worse by the day. I can’t imagine for a second that this industry is being regulated properly. If it was providers (and let’s not forget, they are the main culprits but Casinos are hosting them), wouldn’t not be getting away with the blatant, filthy cheating that is happening right now.

In the early days of gambling online, if I hadn’t hit a bonus after depositing £60, (40-60p spins) I would think that was the session from hell. That was consistent for years, it genuinely felt that you were getting a fair crack of the whip.

Fast forward 8 years and the experience feels nowhere near the same. People will say volatility has changed etc. Yes it has but I still had some amazing wins and regularly playing these games.

Not now though, no sir, you can easily deposit £300-£500 without even seeing a bonus. That is quite simply disgraceful. Yes, okay, once in a while that might happen but for it to become the norm, no way, not a chance, unless you are playing against a slot that is programmed so the odds are ridiculously against you.

I could write pages but there’s little point, as whatever goes against the grain on this forum is quickly brushed under the carpet. If you’re a UK player and you’ve been thinking hang on a minute, am I being screwed over here? The answer is yes you are. It’s FOBT GATE all over again.

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I am not sure what the feeling is in other countries because for 1, I obviously don’t play there and 2, we don’t see a lot posted but as UK player, I am beyond disgusted at what is happening.

I happily played for 6 years. Admittedly having the odd whinge when I hit a bad patch but other than that, I took the rough with the smooth and NEVER once felt the need to go to “chat” to complain about the way a game played.

In the past two and a half years, that’s a completely different story and particularly the past 6 months. In all honesty, it gets worse by the day. I can’t imagine for a second that this industry is being regulated properly. If it was providers (and let’s not forget, they are the main culprits but Casinos are hosting them), wouldn’t not be getting away with the blatant, filthy cheating that is happening right now.

In the early days of gambling online, if I hadn’t hit a bonus after depositing £60, (40-60p spins) I would think that was the session from hell. That was consistent for years, it genuinely felt that you were getting a fair crack of the whip.

Fast forward 8 years and the experience feels nowhere near the same. People will say volatility has changed etc. Yes it has but I still had some amazing wins and regularly playing these games.

Not now though, no sir, you can easily deposit £300-£500 without even seeing a bonus. That is quite simply disgraceful. Yes, okay, once in a while that might happen but for it to become the norm, no way, not a chance, unless you are playing against a slot that is programmed so the odds are ridiculously against you.

I could write pages but there’s little point, as whatever goes against the grain on this forum is quickly brushed under the carpet. If you’re a UK player and you’ve been thinking hang on a minute, am I being screwed over here? The answer is yes you are. It’s FOBT GATE all over again.

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Yep, couldn't agree more . . . slots are not slots anymore, they're now just efficient money collecting black holes designed to syphon cash off of the playing public as quickly as possible with ruthless efficiency, the whole thing has been turned into a sham and a scam and is best avoided altogether.

The UK Gambling Industry needs Revolutionising before punters should ever trust it again.
 
I am not sure what the feeling is in other countries because for 1, I obviously don’t play there and 2, we don’t see a lot posted but as UK player, I am beyond disgusted at what is happening.

I happily played for 6 years. Admittedly having the odd whinge when I hit a bad patch but other than that, I took the rough with the smooth and NEVER once felt the need to go to “chat” to complain about the way a game played.

In the past two and a half years, that’s a completely different story and particularly the past 6 months. In all honesty, it gets worse by the day. I can’t imagine for a second that this industry is being regulated properly. If it was providers (and let’s not forget, they are the main culprits but Casinos are hosting them), wouldn’t not be getting away with the blatant, filthy cheating that is happening right now.

In the early days of gambling online, if I hadn’t hit a bonus after depositing £60, (40-60p spins) I would think that was the session from hell. That was consistent for years, it genuinely felt that you were getting a fair crack of the whip.

Fast forward 8 years and the experience feels nowhere near the same. People will say volatility has changed etc. Yes it has but I still had some amazing wins and regularly playing these games.

Not now though, no sir, you can easily deposit £300-£500 without even seeing a bonus. That is quite simply disgraceful. Yes, okay, once in a while that might happen but for it to become the norm, no way, not a chance, unless you are playing against a slot that is programmed so the odds are ridiculously against you.

I could write pages but there’s little point, as whatever goes against the grain on this forum is quickly brushed under the carpet. If you’re a UK player and you’ve been thinking hang on a minute, am I being screwed over here? The answer is yes you are. It’s FOBT GATE all over again.

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Yes not only UK, I'm from Bangladesh here is same case
 
You couldn’t make this one up.

I stopped depositing at a casino once described as the ‘Ronald McDonald’ of online casinos by Bryan.

Two months after not depositing there I get an email saying that I’ve had promos withdrawn and they need to talk to me because my spend habits have changed. A barrage of emails ensued, a missed phone call and voice mail from them etc.

Here’s the kicker, they imposed a weekly loss limit of £100 on my account…seemingly not noticing I had a self imposed one of £100 a MONTH already active on the account 🤣🤣

I went on to live chat to tell them to stop mithering me as I prefer playing elsewhere and stopping promos is hardly conducive to luring me back to the site. The chap on chat had no idea what I was even talking about.
 
The problem being, they’re overdoing the verification side of things and not paying the slightest bit of attention to providers that are basically running games that are, that gimped, you couldn’t throw your money down the drain any faster. It’s blatant, in your face filth, that is being ignored.

It’s the same with all these adverts on TV for Casinos and the “gamble safely” theme. For a bit of balance, where’s the shot of Jim, who had a great career and future ahead of him, until online gambling destroyed his life and now he’s homeless?

Oh no, you won’t see that. Doesn’t fit the agenda. A hypocritical government, who have to be seen to be doing something but nothing too strong “as we still need those taxes chaps”.
Yeah, it does make me laugh seeing "responsible gambling" on adverts. If they didn't have to push that out there, gamble responsibly they I guarantee they wouldn't. I've been with online casino for 10+ years, not constantly of course ha. But it really just getting shocking, very little payouts, very rarely bonus rounds, and I can just tell when the money is going to be gone again,
just so predictable now. It's not surprising to see people going through the same thing. Those it's good that there a place to talk to people.
One thing that grinds my gears is playing on jackpot games and always seeing pop ups of other people winning them, £200 maximum in a lifetime playing I've won. Sounds stupid to say I know but hyst makes you think sometimes are they genuine players winning the jackpots? Who's know,.
 

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