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Is it not possible to resize these attachments? They're really screwing up the thread.

EDIT: Above comment regarding my own last post on page five, which was intended to be in the format of my initial post but ended up exploding across the page for some reason.
 
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I barely played Blackjack throughout july and had some of my biggest wins ( Video Poker ), started playing again in August, some good highs but a lot of lows as well, volatile game if you play with big bet changes and hope for a good streak, but thats the only way to make some real money at the game, just need to remember the #1 rule, don't chase losses, ***run*** from a bad table, try another one or casino, i find myself chasing a lot of the time and getting hurt.
 
DealerBusts said:
i think you'll find that daywalker didn't phrase his/her questions in a very courteous manner.
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I've got to admit I had a touch of sarcasm in my original post but no way was it dis-courteous, it was a genuine question really. I certainly got a very anal response though but there you go.
Listen guys, it's fine if you've got alot of respect for cipher and he's helped you in the past. I know what it's like but bpb has a point, such a response to my post wouldn't have inflammed this situation, I was genuinely confused as to why you come on here, bleat about rigged casinos but then continue to play them? I still am, if you think the game is bent why play? This is an open question, not one to cipher as he's answered it in his own 'up his own arse' kinda way.
Sorry couldn't resist, he got my back up un-necessarily. :D

I don't want to get into a slanging match, it was a genuine question and still is.
 
daywalker said:
I've got to admit I had a touch of sarcasm in my original post but no way was it dis-courteous, it was a genuine question really. I certainly got a very anal response though but there you go.
Listen guys, it's fine if you've got alot of respect for cipher and he's helped you in the past. I know what it's like but bpb has a point, such a response to my post wouldn't have inflammed this situation, I was genuinely confused as to why you come on here, bleat about rigged casinos but then continue to play them? I still am, if you think the game is bent why play? This is an open question, not one to cipher as he's answered it in his own 'up his own arse' kinda way.
Sorry couldn't resist, he got my back up un-necessarily. :D

I don't want to get into a slanging match, it was a genuine question and still is.
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Daywalker; You need to understand a couple of things about me.

First off, I'm 57 years of age and I have a very low tolerance for any sarcasim when it comes to gambling. It's a serious business to me and I do my homework better than anyone else that I can think of.

Upon occassion I might pass on some information that I feel would be helpful to those who participate in forums such as this. Only because I think it might turn out to be of some value to others including yourself.
 
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Cipher, Have a nice weekend! There are only few people I really respect OR treat as friends here (You, Linda, casinomeister, Jinnia, Jpm....). :)
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Thanks, I think I will and you do the same. Incidentally, have you heard from our friend Linda lately?
 
Good old Microgaming again. 11 hands played, 10 units down. This is getting repetitious. How often do you sit down to a single deck game, wager 11 hands and lose 10 units straight? Gimme a break.

Business as usual at Grand Casino Venice. I should never have reversed my cashout - it obviously triggers "sucker" mode.

You try it - deal yourself 11 hands from a single deck, and keep repeating until you lose 10 straight. My guess: it'll never happen.

Microgaming: just switch off the cheat mode once and for all. Don't you make enough money, for Christ's sake?
 
Microgaming: just switch off the cheat mode once and for all. Don't you make enough money, for Christ's sake?
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My good friend Chucho should see this.
He and I also believe that there is some sort of switch that these casinos turn on and off.
Try Inter or William Hill. (cryptologic) Twenty hands played...I won 4 dealer won 16 :mad:
And that's just one example. I have QUITE a few more
 
cipher said:
Daywalker; You need to understand a couple of things about me.

First off, I'm 57 years of age and I have a very low tolerance for any sarcasim when it comes to gambling. It's a serious business to me and I do my homework better than anyone else that I can think of.

Upon occassion I might pass on some information that I feel would be helpful to those who participate in forums such as this. Only because I think it might turn out to be of some value to others including yourself.
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Cipher, I understand :)

As for the sarcasm, that's just me, I do take gambling seriously as it's how I make a living (but I bet on soccer mainly) the casinos is a hobby for me and I've only been at it 10 weeks, solely taking up bonus offers - but I am getting more & more into blackjack and beginning to risk my own funds and winning, so far!

Anyway, if I've caused any offence I do apologise.
 
lanidar said:
Caruso, How do I put on a screen shot like you just did?
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Lanindar - click on "manage attachments" under "additional options", browse, select the file you want and upload it. The file itself is a screenshot I took of the Playchech record from the website as opposed to within the actual software, since the window within the software isn't big enough to show eleven entries.
 
Frankly, I'm sick of hearing the default excuse "it can happen" in response to ridiculous experiences. Someone even said this when I reported my FIVE SD Gambling Federation loss. Duplicate the experiment: take a single deck and keep dealing yourself eleven hands samples until you lose ten units over the course of one of them. See how many you have to deal before you achieve this result. My guess is you will probably never get there. And yet, just such a run is what I experience IMMEDIATELY when I sit down at the GCV "blackjack" table.

Gimme a break.

My guess is that the Viper and flash versions are currently clean, but that they never bothered to pull the fix out of the old software.

In fact, I'm going to do this experiment myself in free mode at Crypto, and report the results.
 
caruso said:
Business as usual at Grand Casino Venice. I should never have reversed my cashout - it obviously triggers "sucker" mode
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I had never heard of Grand Venice Casino. So I decided to have a look and noticed that they offered some support in Italian. During the last few weeks Ive decided to open a web site for Italian gamblers that are usually not very fluent in English. So Im trying to review all sites that have support or info in my native language. Because of this I decided to have a try and opened a real account in order to get the no deposit $ 11 bonus. After a few hours I discovered that no bonus had been added and my account was locked. I can guess the reason for this: I have to register as an Italian resident (my IDs have Italian addresses) but I live in Ireland. Conflict with IPs and reasonable doubt. Its not the first time it happens. But just look at the style: 32 Red Casino writes a kind e-mail asking if you can explain the reason for this fact, Grand Venice just locks you out without a single word. By the way I had experienced the same treatment by another Casino with some Italian flavour: Colosseum Casino. Account locked, than unlocked with apologies, than re-locked for the same reason of the first locking (?!?), people replying with no ideas of their previous mails, promised answer from the Anti-Fraud Department (implying that youre trying to implement a fraud: again great costumer care!!!). No further news.
What its strange to me is such a behaviour with so many casinos that are willing to offer their services. For sure they will not be listed on my web site but I remain astonished to see a similar attitude. Maybe too many gamblers shop without any clue and casinos can just make what they want.
 
I think what you may discover is that its the backend processor doing the locking on these casinos. I believe that grand venice and colloseum both use the same one (proccyber?) and 32red uses a different one.
 
jpm said:
I think what you may discover is that its the backend processor doing the locking on these casinos. I believe that grand venice and colloseum both use the same one (proccyber?) and 32red uses a different one.
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It makes sense, jpm. I checked and they use the same backend processors (but not proccyber BTW). In any case they could deal with this in a much better way...
 
Oh I totally agree, I was just explaining why it happened. And it will happen again. I went thru this a year or so ago when someone with the same first & last name as my, living in the same state did a chargeback. Proccyber immediatly locked ALL of my accounts at MG casinos they were processor for without telling me. It went on for more than 6 months, every time I opened a new account at a casino they worked with, it would be almost instantly locked, despite having already proved to them that we were not the same person, and their repeated promises that it wouldn't happen again.

So don't be surprised if it happens again to you.
 
I am REALLY am getting sick of this. This is the third consecutive re-deposit double that pulled nothing, and the dealer drew out the magic 21 hand.

I've not the slightest doubt now that the software is programmed to deal doubles / splits with an automatic dealer 21 whenever it registers a re-deposit to cover the extra bet.

This was (AGAIN) Casino Grand Bay. They put $15 in my account (probably because of that lovely split / double redeposit that prompted this thread), I decided to anti-martingale as far as I could; won the $15 hand; bet $30; of course, the best POSSIBLE double is dealt; of COURSE it loses to ANOTHER 21. I took a screenshot of the original deal since I knew exactly what was happening, and $30 isn't exactly a sweat-job.

Gimme a break. Three consecutive re-deposit doubles; three consecutive nothing cards on the 11; three consecutive dealer magic 21s.

This is obviously fixed now.
 
I said it was three consecutive, but I didn't take a screenshot of the second. Just did a Playcheck, however, so here we are. Notice how it's 1) always the same player hand (11) and 2) always the same dealer 21. This one was a $400 suck out.
 
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i had bad play at casino grandbay as of late too. I had a lot of the same as you caruso, same size bets and dealer pulled a lot of lucky hands when i raised bet. i stopped playing with them, but i had some good play with their sister jupiter club casino. i wont go as far as to say theyre rigged because I havent played with them as much as some of the other casinos i condemned.

on a lighter note, i go to atlantic city on saturday. i think ill bring about 3k to play blackjack. Wish me luck :D
 
that $15 bonus was for you to try out their slots
theoretically you can play poker pursuit and red dog, too

had you won anything using that $15 playing BJ, I highly doubt they would let you cash in anything...
 
caruso said:
My guess is that the Viper and flash versions are currently clean, but that they never bothered to pull the fix out of the old software.

In fact, I'm going to do this experiment myself in free mode at Crypto, and report the results.
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I agree. I have run very well on Viper at a huge number of casinos. But that is pretty much the only software I trust. I refuse to go near older Microgaming casinos.

Most of the other software behaves oddly when I play, so these days I stay away from them. As for cryptologic (where I perhaps I have played 20 times or so) always follows the same pattern. The first 1000$ wagered seems normal, after that it is just a slow drain on my bankroll. It has been that way each and every time I have played there. So I have stopped playing there until I get convinced their deal a kosher game. Haven't played at RTG in a good while so I don't know how it behaves these days.
 
I just had a ridiculous run at a crypt and cant even get them to send me the logs for me to post here. 8 blackjacks to my 3, I bet same % of $5 $25 and $50+ and every BJ was an over $50 bet for the dealer, 2 of my 6 doubles won, not a real statistically useful session and I'm not 100% on my numbers which is why I want the logs but an email to their support and pit boss have gone ignored some 6 hours later.
 
I m as angry as you all are when i hit a 10+ bad BJ run but searching my logs I found my biggest positive run ever, which happened only once of course, in
Be the dealer casino. I still look at it and cannot believe it.... I do no think that I had a negative experience close to this positive one. Perhaps, 15 lost hands out of 17 the worst. But, of course, negative streaks are much more than positive ones.....
 
Off we go again. Another full-balance bet, and guess what: another 21 suck out. Dealer 5 up, me 10/10. Dealer goes 6/10. How unlucky, LOL.

Dean, could you fix it so as I maybe win one of these big bets some day? Just a quick call to RTG should do it.

Thanks.
 
I know I'm NOT telling you anything NEW and I'm sure it's no real consolation...
But this kind of crap happens to me more often than it should also.
I too would like to win just one of these hands.
If Dean answers you, could you please put in a good word for me? :D
 
9 was showing in the initial hand and then the dealer flipped the 2 over and drew the 10.

Contrary to popular belief, Mama didn't raise no dummy. :D

I was surprised I got to 18 without busting out on a face card, actually.
 
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Macgyver said:
9 was showing in the initial hand and then the dealer flipped the 2 over and drew the 10.

Contrary to popular belief, Mama didn't raise no dummy. :D .
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Sorry - didn't know RTG shuffles the cards AFTER dealing!

But talking about dummies - how about this:-
Got e-mail from VIP advertising 3-card poker lucky draw - just play any amount to qualify!
Had $50 in account, so I thought it worth a little go.
But at $3 min per hand, I got dealt 10 totaly crap hands in a row which soon took most of me do$h. :(
And then I got dealt a nice clubs flush - got to be a winner!!!

But I forgot VIP means Very Ignorant Player! :what:
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Sorry - didn't know RTG shuffles the cards AFTER dealing!
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Again, with RTG, the hole (down) card is located on the far left of the dealer hand. The UPcard is therefore always the SECOND card from the left.

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Chicken feed, but another full-balance bet. More RTG dealer magic, this time courtesy of Geisha Lounge:
 
KasinoKing said:
Sorry - didn't know RTG shuffles the cards AFTER dealing!

But talking about dummies - how about this:-
Got e-mail from VIP advertising 3-card poker lucky draw - just play any amount to qualify!
Had $50 in account, so I thought it worth a little go.
But at $3 min per hand, I got dealt 10 totaly crap hands in a row which soon took most of me do$h. :(
And then I got dealt a nice clubs flush - got to be a winner!!!

But I forgot VIP means Very Ignorant Player! :what:
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You should have won the pair plus bet, only the ante & bet would be lost in this scenario.
 
Cipher it seems you would have the means to do so and probably already have, but how about if you seperate all the bets over $X amount and calculate the odds of winning them compared to winning your average bet. I am thinking that therein would be the proof of the betsize to win rigging being present. If we can show people the hard facts of this being a problem then people will realize what is really going on at a lot of these places. Over the years especailly at crypto casinos it seemed that if I bet big for more than a couple hands it would go into straight up takedown mode, but it seemed to break that cycle when I would resort to $5 bets rather than $100 bets.

I think its quite odd that more often than not the dealer just happens to get that 21 at that opportune time, its almost as if the computer was waiting for that opportunity to strike, as if it says here is a way to get $$X amount of money when that certain bet amout would damage your bankroll significantly My advice to this is, if you can't afford the split or the double, then don't chance it, too many times adherence to perfect basic strategy has really left me wide open for a pretty damaging hand.

If casinos are going to offer this game, there should be as much chance of winning your big hands as the small ones, the cards should come out the same no matter what.

Another thing I have always wondered, for example when you hit or do not hit a certain hand, for example when you bust and the dealer had a hand that could have been busted by the card that busted you, would they have gotten the same card?? Or would they have gotten a card that would have made them a hand?? It seems to me, that the hand, no matter what is almost pre-determined to be a win or a loss. I have heard a couple times around here that whenever its the dealers turn to win, they will get the cards that it will take them to win, no matter what. Which means that there is nothing to 'man if i would have hit that' because the card would have not been the same. I have always wondered this to be true, how much do your descisions really come into play on an online game?? Is it truely like a land based game or is it more like a slot machine?? Are your wins pre determined or do you as a player have some input(other than bet size).
 
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You should have won the pair plus bet, only the ante & bet would be lost in this scenario.
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Well yes, I WOULD have won the Pair-Plus bet - If I had placed the Pair-Plus bet!

I don't place this every hand - usually about 1 in 4 hands - I use the W.A.G. system to detect when a good hand is about to hit, and then place it. ;)

But in this instance, $3 minimums is a bit steep for me (I'm a VERY LOW roller!) and I didn't do any PP's at all! :(
 
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, too many times adherence to perfect basic strategy has really left me wide open for a pretty damaging hand.
EIGHTS....split eights seem to be the bane of my gambling existance. Online or land based, it doesn't really matter. Its like clockwork too, I will get a pair of eights, to the dealers low up card, usually a 4,5 or 6. I'll split, and get another eight, and of course split again. Then the real fun begins. I almost always get a 2 or 3 on the 3rd eight, and double, and get a low card. Then I will hit the next eight, and get the face card. Hit the final eight and get another 2 or 3, double and get a 5,6 or 7. Then I watch in horror as the dealer proceeds to pull a 20 or 21, and clean me out. I have convinced myself that the number eight is my punishment for gambling.
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Yeah, its those hands that make or break ya. Personally I like splitting 2's, 3's, and 9's, they seem to be luckier


I remeber one horrible night(well not that horrible I was up by a grand or so) I got a pair of 8's with probably $75 on the table, wound up splitting 3 - 4 times, got a few good hands out of it like a 19, 18, and doubled on an 8 2 and got a 20, the dealer showing a 3, well that dealer got their 8 on the 13 and I lost all the hands, I was pissed!!!

But now, on an online casino, its as if the bad split was planned, a pair of aces, omg I got 2 small cards, damn, oh the dealer just happened to not bust. I think its very rare that I have ever hit a decent split online.
 
Another gem from Microgaming, and the pattern is starting to get a bit too predictable for comfort: full balance bet ($200), and I pull, again, the best possible double - 11 v. 6 - see the exact same thing earlier on in the thread - so I've no choice but to shovel out an extra $200.

Three perfect dealer cards.

You can't draw any substantiateable conclusions from these situations, so I'm assuming from this point on that individual big bets on Microgaming have a neat little fix in the code to repeat these scenarios over and over. Impossible to prove and a heck of a money-maker.

FTR, my previous Microgaming big bet drew player 16 against dealer blackjack. No screenshot, unfortunately.
 
bAdSmoker said:
You my friend caruso have a major gambling problem.
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That's a pretty weighty and serious accusation to be making, and there's nothing in the comment to suggest that you're just being sarcastic or trying to be funny.

If caruso can afford to make a $200 bet (twice after doubling), that's not an indication of a "major gambling problem." You'd have to know caruso pretty damn well before you can make such a claim.

And, for the record, I DON'T know caruso ... at all. I disagree with him sometimes, but not enough to start accusing him of having a gambling problem, major or otherwise.
 

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