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Neteller virtual mastercard

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Hi, well I managed to use the neteller pre paid virtual card the other day at comet. I also tried to use it at HMV but couldn't even know it made a 1 phantom deposit to check me out (whistle)

So I am really asking do you lot use this virtual card? And if so, where are you able to shop at? THX :)
 
Not that I have one, I still still user the Globe Wallet MC version.

However I was told by VIP support a few days ago that you can only withdraw a max of $3,000 over 4 days.

As an affiliate that is a pain in the butt. Not to mention the hefty fee on each ATM transaction.

I've heard a few people are having drama's using the Net+ card at EFT terminals. My GW MC has another 16 months on it & I'll happily stay with this. Even having to load the card is worth the hassle when compared to the nightmares some people are having with the Net+ card.

What I don't get is why Neteller couldn't issue a better card. Something like PaySpark would be perfect. On that I can pull $3,000US a day from a single ATM transaction :thumbsup:


Cheers
T
 
Hi, well I managed to use the neteller pre paid virtual card the other day at comet. I also tried to use it at HMV but couldn't even know it made a 1 phantom deposit to check me out (whistle)

So I am really asking do you lot use this virtual card? And if so, where are you able to shop at? THX :)

With the virtual card your able to shop at any online shop like amazon,ebay etc.. Neteller also offers a card that you can use in atm's and to any shop that accept maestro cards

Hope that helps
 
Yes the virtual card is the online shopping card, I created this topic to really just ask which online shops are your Virtual cards working at.

It was annoying that HMV couldn't get it to work. So mac do you know for sure if the Virtual card works at amazon? Or was it just a example? Ok,THX
 
I'm still having problems finding a retailer to shop at, I try at comet again where I was able to purchase at, and guess what payment declined.

PC world, Dixons, Toys R us, play.com, HMV-all don't work.

I'm starting to think it's because my credit card is Visa, any thoughts on that?
 
How about a cash at your own bank ???

I have dosh at neteller that I will gamble with until I lose or hit out big enough to withdraw, so it would be nice to get something real with it, that I would probably not buy if it were to come from my bank account. Just nice to buy a little something here and there inbertween the streaks it could be a winner.

I would of thought more members would have used the virtual card, and would be able to give some much needed input.
 
Yeah id like to hear comments about the virtual card aswell. What bothers me about this card is if the shop would ask for a copy of front/back of your card, they might not believe that i was using a virtual card.
Also shopping for a trips/vacations is a big no no with the card too, so what can you basically buy with this? ;)
 
Yeah id like to hear comments about the virtual card aswell. What bothers me about this card is if the shop would ask for a copy of front/back of your card, they might not believe that i was using a virtual card.
Also shopping for a trips/vacations is a big no no with the card too, so what can you basically buy with this? ;)


Hi Kavaman, you could send them a copy of the front of a virtual card, if you download the virtual card to your desktop.

I think I will sign up for the real credit card version.
 
I'm still having problems finding a retailer to shop at, I try at comet again where I was able to purchase at, and guess what payment declined.

PC world, Dixons, Toys R us, play.com, HMV-all don't work.

I'm starting to think it's because my credit card is Visa, any thoughts on that?

It might be how the website is set up - normally you have to tell it what type of card you are using, as well as putting in the number. The Neteller card is neither a credit nor debit card, and some websites do not have such an option, or it is not clear.

I have dosh at neteller that I will gamble with until I lose or hit out big enough to withdraw, so it would be nice to get something real with it, that I would probably not buy if it were to come from my bank account. Just nice to buy a little something here and there inbertween the streaks it could be a winner.

I would of thought more members would have used the virtual card, and would be able to give some much needed input.

Given how Neteller repeatedly cock-up things, I am not surprised few have taken up this new card, especially as it is a "prison" once you have signed up.
If it doesn't work - you get charged a dormancy fee because you haven't used it. This is every month, so you have to keep on using it, even if this means buying stuff you might not want to buy, or from a retailer you didn't want to use, just to notch up that months use.
If you have had enough - they charge you an EXIT fee from the card.

Neteller have failed to research the market, no COMPETITOR, such as a bank debit card or bank issued credit card, has ANY of these problems.

1) The main networks have been running for decades, and work smoothly with point of sale and online validation methods.

2) A DEBIT card will NOT itself charge for withdrawing your money, but a private ATM might. With the Neteller card, you can even be double dipped, by paying BOTH the Neteller fee, AND the private ATM fee, for your withdrawal.

3) By paying 5, a Neteller customer can move their money to their bank, and take advantage of points 1) and 2) - so why go to all the trouble, and all the fees.

Yeah id like to hear comments about the virtual card aswell. What bothers me about this card is if the shop would ask for a copy of front/back of your card, they might not believe that i was using a virtual card.
Also shopping for a trips/vacations is a big no no with the card too, so what can you basically buy with this? ;)

Shops don't - you are thinking of casinos:D

I considered this card, checked the terms and conditions, and operating procedure (as far as I could gather), THEN checked where I would want to use it, and found that very likely I COULD NOT!!

The main problem is that most UK facing online stores, and particularly places where you pay a recurring bill have something like this:-

"only xxxxxx cards issued by a UK bank are accepted" - which completely rules out the Neteller card, as it is issued not by a bank, but by some kind of "finance house" (Conister Trust - I think). In all likelihood, validation will fail because the first 4-6 numbers do not match up to a UK bank in the verification database.

It is a bit like trying to use an Electron debit card, MOST places do not accept them, either online or instore. The Neteller card MAY be of this same underclass, and thus fail to work at many places.

The ONLY places where the Neteller card should work fine are ATMs, but here there are all those fees. One could end up having to withdraw cash from an ATM in order to purchase the goods, but WITHOUT the economy of scale offered by the Neteller to bank move, where 5 covers even large amounts over several thousand.
 
iam from germany and also use the neteller cards long time now.

i just applied for the plastic card and had the globewallet before. i cant really find anything negative about it as it was accepted everywhere i used it. fe at the gas station, amazon, online shops..

as i mostly use it to withdraw from atm iam very fine with this card, a withdrawal always cost me 4 fix, thats acceptable if i consider that i have the money instant in my hands( iknow a bank transfer would be cheaper) and the fee is 1 less to my regular credit cards.

i never used the virtual one as if i need it i can also use the plastic, the neteller support told me several times via email and phone i should use the virtual one for security reasons but i never had any problems so iam kind of trustful ;-).

what iam always not sure about if the net+ master card is really accepted overall in the world like my regular one. as its high printed its also different to other prepaid cards.

one thing i recognized, as buzzluck had no neteller available i tried making depsoit using the net+ card, i didnt work. the support also tried another processor, no-way. the supoport also got curious of me as a german depsoiting with an abroad issued card, i had to explain:-) so iam nearly sure the card wouldnt work at any gambling site as neteller wants u to use your normal neteller to make gambling transactions, think thats a little weird as they advertise their master card acceptance.


but alltogether its still a nice feature as neteller didnt charge a dime for the card or anything, just the atm withdrawals. and in my hometown the card should work at any electronic pos.

its interesting toi hear how different the acceptance of thi cards is.

cheers

coxwel
 
Hi, you cant use the virtual card at any online casinos so you probably wouldn't be able to use the real cc version either.

I was just thinking about the dormancy fee for the real cc version, what happens if you have a zero balance at your neteller account. Does your neteller account show a negative balance or are you prompted to make a deposit? Would there be further charges for a negative balance?
 
Just a question, if the online casino accepts neteller, why bother using the virtual or real Net+ card if that is what you are saying. I have never had a problem with Net+ pre-paid mastercard in shops etc. here in the UK. Never tried at an online casino as all the ones I use have neteller.

I do know my proper mastercard credit card wouldn't work as the card provider will not allow any transactions with online casinos
 
i never used the virtual card, always the plastic. the only fee i have to pay for the card is 4 if i make an atm withdrawal, if i have fe 53 in my account i could only withdraw 45 (+4 fee=49) in cash as theres no possibility of a negative balance, what fee should be deducted if your account shows zero? there is no constant fee for the prepaid card.


i tried my plastic prepaid at ocs ,it wont work, for gambling transactions you have to use your neteller account like usual. dont know why but theres a clear issue with net+ plastic/virtual and online gambling. i know theres no need, because you can use your neteller instead, but if neteller is not available the card is no option ;-(

cheers coxwel
 
I went to my bank and get visa electron (debit). It has cvv number and its accepted in all casino, amazon, online shops, sw&hw.
I can withdraw at any atm with bank fee, very cheap.
Also, you can register this card with moneybooker, pay-pal and netteler and use that e-wallet for varius reason with no trouble at all.
 
Yes that's true, no dormancy fees for virtual cards.

The websites that rejected my virtual card all had mastercard as an option.

I'm hoping that I can get round the dormancy fee on the real card version by using it to withdrawal from a ATM.

You would just substitute one fee for another. Unusually, there is a fee charged by Neteller for using an ATM. This is NOT the same as the fee that SOME non-bank ATM machines charge, it is a DIFFERENT fee, and should you use one of these non-bank ATMs, you will be charged TWO fees for each withdrawal, making it more expensive than paying the dormancy fee.

The only advantage for this Neteller card is the ability to make INSTANT purchases, rather than wait up to 7 days for a transfer into your bank account. The issue here is about non-acceptance of the Neteller card at places that advertise acceptance of Mastercard in general.
I have also found that you CANNOT use your Neteller card to pay bills online, such as paying off your credit card, electricity & gas, etc. If Neteller had thought of this, then the card would be MUCH more useful, and I would have already applied for one.

The card is no good at all if I have to use ATMs to withdraw the cash, and then spend that cash in the shops.

Neteller are pushing this card HARD, so I doubt it is good value in general. Neteller ALSO racked up the fees for transferring to the bank from 1 to 5 alongside the introduction of the new card - proof enough for me they have brought out this card to make HUGE (comparatively) profits from us compared with previous options, and want to deter us from using the cheaper path of transferring to bank, and using our bank's cards.
 
Hi, Neteller have scrapped there dormancy fees.

Never pay non-usage fees again
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Yes, dormancy fees have been removed from the Net+ prepaid mastercard, you can now also transfer funds onto it for free using the Poli payment method which simply transfers money instantly from your bank account straight into your neteller account with no fees whatsoever. Can't speak for users outside the UK though. As I have said above never had a problem using the prepaid card in shops and ATMs.

That said easy and free transfers into my gambling account is maybe not such a good thing after all:)
 
Just an FYI - I've had difficulty in the past using my Net+ prepaid MC card for purchases and withdrawing funds from ATMs when traveling in foreign countries.

But while in the Seychelles, I had no problem with it whatsoever :D
 
Ok, after taking another look after using my card again-it seems that I'm being charged 1 every time I use the card.

Has anyone else here used the pre-paid plastic card at an online shop? are you being charged also 1 credit per transaction? Ok thanks....

You should complain to Neteller, they are breaking their own terms and conditions which state there is no charge for purchases.

None of this gives me ANY confidence in this product, and I am not getting one any time soon, even though they have dropped the dormancy fees.

I would HATE the hassle of constantly having to contact Neteller to sort out being charged 1 for transactions, and I also find I CANNOT use the card to pay the very bills I would want to use it for, as the websites where I can pay the bills seem to expressly state they do NOT include pre-paid cards such as this as accepted methods for payment, but only STANDARD UK bank issues debit cards.

I would NOT see any real advantage in using the card other than for small transactions, since I would NOT benefot from Section 75 of the UK consumer credit act, whereas I WOULD if I used my credit card, and paid it off by transferring money from Neteller to my bank in good time for the payment date for the credit card.

Neteller have not really thought this out, they have designed a product that makes THEM money, rather than one that offers everything that standard debit and credit cards offer.
 
Hi, I actually found one of the 1 charges showing as declined, but as I use my account a lot-I don't know if I got it back.

But I will keep a keen eye on my account to see if my other charges get declined and fees put back to my account.

Now I made one purchase at game.com, and there was no charge? But on a whole this shop is very well priced-and seem to go all out on getting customer savings. (Through kelkoo you even get 5.4% cash-back;))
 
Hi, I actually found one of the 1 charges showing as declined, but as I use my account a lot-I don't know if I got it back.

But I will keep a keen eye on my account to see if my other charges get declined and fees put back to my account.

Now I made one purchase at game.com, and there was no charge? But on a whole this shop is very well priced-and seem to go all out on getting customer savings. (Through kelkoo you even get 5.4% cash-back;))

That means it was not taken. It is hard to notice when it is a mere 1 because there is no running balance total, but I have had "declined" casino withdrawals and deposits show up, and they do NOT change my overall balance.

You may find ALL the 1 charges are shown as declined - best check in case there are "technical problems" with these new cards creating "accepted" 1 charges by mistake.

It is a pity Neteller did not warn customers in advance about this "feature" of the cards.
 
Well I'm back, VWM the 1 charges were showing as pending, now three of them have changed to declined-and the 1 charges have been returned to my account.

It's ok now that it has been returned, but these are the things that stop cc from getting awards.

Also the fact that some of these shops were charging the 1 to change payment method, is insane! now imagine changing payment method to the pre-paid card with a less than 1 balance,what would happen? Would they take the money of your next deposit/credit to the account? Then pay you back later. Not a good system!

BTW it took 8 days for the charge-back.
 
Well I'm back, VWM the 1 charges were showing as pending, now three of them have changed to declined-and the 1 charges have been returned to my account.

It's ok now that it has been returned, but these are the things that stop cc from getting awards.

Also the fact that some of these shops were charging the 1 to change payment method, is insane! now imagine changing payment method to the pre-paid card with a less than 1 balance,what would happen? Would they take the money of your next deposit/credit to the account? Then pay you back later. Not a good system!

BTW it took 8 days for the charge-back.

I have NEVER had this with a "proper" credit card, so why have it with the Neteller one.
EVERYTHING about this Neteller card is either as bad, or WORSE than a "proper" credit card.

Worst of all is the COMPLETE LACK OF PROTECTION under the Consumer Credit Act should a purchase with the Neteller card go wrong, such as the merchant failing to deliver, ripping you off, or even going bust after taking your money.

It is merely AS BAD when it comes to using an ATM to get at your money, but still WORSE than using your normal bank card, which is usually free.

The virtual desktop version is BETTER than a debit card, as it has the security of having a new number for each transaction, but you would STILL lack protection were the merchant to do a runner with the money, secure transaction or not.

Neteller need to scrap ALL the fees that are MORE than would be charged for using a regular debit card, the biggest incentive of all would be FREE ATM withdrawals, just like the banks offer.
 

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