my thoughts about Highnoon Casino

[Nifty29]

He's an affiliate promoting a casino he says uses tricks not to pay...??
Jeeeeze!

KK

Well that wouldn't matter because it isn't HIM

What's the bet there are some real gems on his website?

 

[CWC-Martyn]

Thanks Bryan. I saw this thread late so was not able to respond in time before it was closed.

Reading through this I felt it was odd that this 'player' did not want to PAB against High Noon considering this was over a decent sum of money in anyones book.

I read all 5 pages and became curious as to what has gone on here. So I dug a little deeper.

I was pretty shocked when i found out who the player is, it's someone I have known through affiliate marketing for a number of years now - someone I've done business with.

In reply to this thread, AGW (Ekrem) was correct with the figures, his first cashout was declined as we had no faxback documents received. When this was declined AGW received an email asking him to get in touch. He had also received a previous email asking him to get in touch to verbally confirm his account - which never happened.

We only received partial documents on the 12th of April (reason for the second refusal which again he was emailed on) and full documents received on the Friday 13th. All documents were approved on Monday 15th. Between which time AGW had played out his balance - his choice.

So the delays here that 'made' the player play his winnings was due to not receiving his documents and when we did receive them it was weekend. We did not hold any money hostage.

On a side note, he's been logged into the casino today (playing for fun), which isnt the usual behaviour of someone that belives that there are better places to play.

Our last business as an affiliate was a deal including an advance of a sum of money in return for marketing of our casinos. ZERO marketing was done in return however the funds were eventually claimed back through another account of his. Furthermore, what was concerning to me was that Ekrem was selling his affiliate account with some "outstanding funds" included in the sale. These were the funds that were being reclaimed through his failure to act upon the affiliate deal we did. Luckily the guy buying the account contacted me first.

I'll leave it up to you to make your mind up on the character of this player and affiliate of High Noon Casino based on what I've posted.

Thank you also to all those that read his posts with caution and for confirming that your payments run smoothly.

We understand that sometimes the documents required can be a pain to organise but this is purely to keep a high level of security against our casinos and your personal details. Once you've done it once with a casino in our group, you are covered for all casinos as long as all details remain the same, you just need to inform us to save any delays.

Thanks for listening.

 

[conker]

Nice response Martyn, cleared up quite a lot of the points raised as far as I can make out.

 

[LHofsdal]

Martyn-

I am glad you came back to the thread and posted the casinos side of the story.

Now this is my opinion, and maybe others feel the same way, but this was a BLATANT attempt to dis-credit this group. He never disclosed he was an affiliate, he never disclosed that the communication between the casino and himself was actually taking place. Now I think this member should be banned not only for lying but for his attempt to make this group look bad.

It is disgusting to know that affiliates would stoop to such a low to try and discredit a group that they were working with. I bet it has alot to do with this group taking back the money they gave him to market their brand, of which he did not do. I truly think that is the biggest motivator for making his post.

Again, thanks Martyn for coming in and shedding light on the subject, now that we know who this poster really is, and what they will do I am sure no one will believe anything this clown has to say.

LH

 

[chuchu59]

CW is not exactly the best in communicating with players with regard to security docs. However, this affiliate made a mess of trying to discredit the group as no-one sympathises with him nor does anyone believe he has no ulterior motives. A guy with no ethics and poor marketing skills.No wonder he fails miserably at whatever he does. Next time a player wants to bad-mouth a casino at least make up the story as believable first.

Meanwhile CW should ensure that the verification process is player-friendly and should make sure that everything is communicated to the player. My experience had not been pleasant and I feel this is an area they should improve on.

 

[CWC-Martyn]

Meanwhile CW should ensure that the verification process is player-friendly and should make sure that everything is communicated to the player. My experience had not been pleasant and I feel this is an area they should improve on.

Thanks chuchu, I will pass this on to the Ops Manager to see what can be done to make the process better for all involved.

Have a good weekend all.

 

[Nifty29]

Thankyou Martyn.

Confirms what I suspected about AGW I.E. A lying sack of.....

You can almost physically smell these guys from the first few sentences.

The fact that he totally slagged off CWC with NO justification, coupled with his dishonest and downright scum behaviour trying to sell funds that weren't his, should be enough to be shown the door, surely?

 

[vinylweatherman]

If a casino don't pay, it is better. So you can come here and fill a PAB and it can be solved.

But this type of tricks aren't acceptable for me and for lots of players.

Players who are not ok with this type of things, won't choose this casino anymore.

Players who are ok with this type of things, can continue to play at highnoon casino. But i can advice them that there are quality casinos that don't do this type of tricks and it will be better for them to choose them.

But for sure, this is their decision.

Should you not have carried out this test BEFORE you promoted them to other players?

No doubt, you pulled their banners immediately you determined that they were a "no pay" outfit so as to back up your warning to the rest of us that we should find "better places to play".

If not, it suggests that as an affiliate, you are prepared to promote ANY casino willing to pay you well, regardless of whether they are a safe place to play or not.

I also find it odd that affiliate accounts can be sold on so easily, rather than the new owner of a website having to open their own accounts.

No doubt it is to enable value from past traffic to be sold on as a "going concern" in business terms, but it seems this was more an attempt to offload a "poisoned" business asset at an inflated price based on misleading accounts, rather than a genuine desire to offer a fair deal for a fair price. Perhaps it would have NO value if you didn't sell because once your scheme had been found out, the affiliate account would have been closed by the program, with the advance payment never actually materialising whether you still owned it, or it had been sold on.

Since you were promoting the brand, you should have known how their procedures worked, good or bad, and should not have been caught out so easily.

 

[AGW]

After reading your recommendatitions, I deposited to all clubworld casinos (6 of them), totally $1800.
Lost all of them except club usa, i cashouted about $1000 from there.
I verified on live chat that my documents approved and i don't need to do it for all group casinos.
I phoned to their country, talked with them and approved my details.
They tell me that my payment will be done tomorrow.
Also I got an email that payments are done next day.
But next day and other day there was still no payment.
And according my previous experience, I saw 'myself' that I'm right and I played all and lost.

I wasn't going to share it but as I see Martyn is sad about it, I need to share it.

It is not about you personally Martyn. I'm sure that if you were the
ceo, you solve all this type of problems. Probably your managers decide to do this so casinos will have more profits.
But as I repeated a few times, your brands don't need this.

I communicate myself in my language good, but it is very hard to do in another language. I'm trying my best.

Yes, I'm webmaster and members who want to learn it can check my profile and see it. I didn't need to say it.
Because as I thought highnoon is a quality casino I was advicing and promoting it to players. Also it was
on casinomeister's accredited list. It is also what made me angry. Until now, I was telling to players that it was a quality casino. My mistake.

At past, I got payment of $5000 from Martyn for marketing. And according to our deal, if i don't send any players,
he'll get this payment from my another account as it was actively working. Because some problems i didn't able to promote
my site and Martyn took the payment from my account. I payed it back it in 3 months. After 3 months, I sold the account.

I'm still very right, although looks like I can't explain myself.

Doing PAB just solve 'my' problem. Casino group will continue to do their payment procedure as everytime.

This is what I wanted to hear ''I will pass this on to the Ops Manager to see what can be done to make the process better for all involved.''

edit: i used the name 'highnoon casino'in my original post. Although i knew that it is in the group of club world casinos, i didn't wrote 'club world casinos' tricks.' To not to make all group bad.

 

[vinylweatherman]

After reading your recommendatitions, I deposited to all clubworld casinos (6 of them), totally $1800.
Lost all of them except club usa, i cashouted about $1000 from there.
I verified on live chat that my documents approved and i don't need to do it for all group casinos.
I phoned to their country, talked with them and approved my details.
They tell me that my payment will to tomorrow.
Also I got an email that payments are done next day.
But next day and other day there was still no payment.
And according my previous experience, I saw 'myself' that I'm right and I played all and lost.

I wasn't going to share it but as I see Martyn is sad about it, I need to share it. It is not about you personally Martyn.
Probably your manegers decide to do this so casinos will have more profits.
But as I repeated a few times, your brands don't need this.

I communicate myself in my language good, but it is very hard to do in another language. I'm trying my best.

Yes, I'm webmaster and members who want to learn it can check my profile and see it. I didn't need to say it.Because as I thought highnoon is a quality casino I was advicing and promoting it to players. Also it was
on casinomeister's accredited list. It is also what made me angry. Until now, I was telling to players that it was a quality casino. My mistake.

At past, I got payment of $5000 from Martyn for marketing. And according to our deal, if i don't send any players,
he'll get this payment from my another account as it was actively working. Because some problems i didn't able to promote
my site and Martyn took the payment from my account. I payed it back it in 3 months. After 3 months, I sold the account.

I'm still very right, although looks like I can't explain myself.

This is what I wanted to hear ''I will pass this on to the Ops Manager to see what can be done to make the process better for all involved.''

edit: i used the name 'highnoon casino'in my original post. Although i knew that it is in the group of club world casinos, i didn't wrote 'club world casinos' tricks.' To not to make all group bad.

It seems you WERE a webmaster, until the 8th of April that is. You have not bothered to renew your domain, and it can now be bought by anyone.

You don't mention any other webmastered sites

Perhaps Martyn was careless in paying $5000 up front, as you could just as easily have "done a runner", or sold the account to someone who did NOT take the precaution of validating your claims of "outstanding payments" by contacting Martyn first.

If you encountered "problems" in promoting after accepting the payment, did you make any efforts to seek help from the program, or through affiliate forums?

 

[AGW]

I'm still a webmaster, i'll update my site after this experience, don't worry. Casinomeister is still accrediting it.

I read forums and according to player's experiences I rank casinos. This is why my site is not a casinomeister.com

Martyn is not stupid, he paid me because my insurance account already doing 2k montly and he knew that he can take it from there if i was a runner. In first month i earned about 2k, he took from account. The second month i earned about 2k, he took from my account. in 3 month i earned about 2k, he took 1k, sent me left 1k, and account been sold after that.

But all this was on last year. I even don't remember this very well. I don't have any problem with affiliateedge.com. This topic is a player's topic. Not about affiliate part.

I think you still write these type of things because you think 'he opened this topic because of ???'

You try to put lots of things in the place of '???'

And everyone try to put something different.

But I wrote what to put to there. It is very clear.

 

[Diane]

I've always gotten paid from High Noon, and promptly.

Ditto

 

[debqt25]

I did spend time back and forth with them to collect 1000 from a 10.00 no deposit chip but they did pay after they received the documentation they wanted. Problem is that often the money gets played again and lost as the wait can be long.I don't find them to have a high payout rate, for me better ones around.

 

[Diane]

I did spend time back and forth with them to collect 1000 from a 10.00 no deposit chip but they did pay after they received the documentation they wanted. Problem is that often the money gets played again and lost as the wait can be long.I don't find them to have a high payout rate, for me better ones around.

I share the common problem of occasionally playing back a nice win...........but no way we can fault the casino for our lack of personal discipline.

Best route for me is to just stay away! Plenty of other sites to go to while you wait for your hard earned (after wagering req. met) winnings to be paid. My results at High Noon are comparable to all other RTG casinos.

Diane

 

[AGW]

I don't want to talk about it anymore. It is my mistake. Highnoon is a good casino.

Everyone can do a mistake, right?

I tried to edit my original post, but can't.

Mods, please delete topic. Thanks.

 

[Nifty29]

I don't want to talk about it anymore. It is my mistake. Highnoon is a good casino.

Everyone can do a mistake, right?

I tried to edit my original post, but can't.

Mods, please delete topic. Thanks.

Wow. So sincere.

The more you post, the more convinced I am that you're dodgy.

 

[chuchu59]

Wow. So sincere.

The more you post, the more convinced I am that you're dodgy.

My thoughts exactly though I would let sleeping doys lie.

 

[The Dude]

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