Casino Complaint Miamiclubcasino.im won't payout $5000

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This is going to be a long explanation so please bare with me.

So I deposit $60 for a 100 % match bonus with Miamiclubcasino without fully understanding bonus terms. I then proceed to place bets over the $10 limit unknowingly, I get my bank roll up to $1275 and cash out $1000 and wait for a day and a half to hear back on approval.

After the 36 hours or so I haven't gotten a email from them and decided I'm just going to redeposit the $1000 and play some more, I play for a few hours and get my bank roll up to around $2200-2500. I log out and go to bed.

The next day I start a new session and work my way up to $5000 I the proceed to withdraw $2500 to my card and $2500 in Bitcoin. 48 hours go buy and they tell me they don't have all proper thr documents, which is bullshit because I gotten paid out before by them. Anyway I submit all what the asked for the same day. 24hours later they wrote me back and said they won't pay out because I violated their terms on bouns plays.

Here are those terms
The maximum individual wager permitted using an active bonus is $2.00 on any single pay-line on any slot game and a maximum single wager of $10.00 on any game, (Equivalent in all other currencies). Players placing wagers using an active bonus in excess of this maximum will forfeit any winnings earned from the session.

Now notice it say's session.
I then email the response of I would like to see the logs. And the sent over the logs from the first session and are denying me the logs from the consecutive sessions where it shows I withdrew the $5000. They have basically okie doked me since saying there's nothing they can do and the matter is closed. I have expressed the discrepancy in their terms and they simply cut me off.

I submitted a PAB and the casino refuses the arbitration.

Should I take this to a higher authority?

Any sort of feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to read my complaint.

Ian
 
Unfortunately they don't need to justify more than that - if you break the rules of the bonus they can void the bonus balance (the $1000 pending withdrawal and the $275).

As your subsequent sessions are using tainted funds that no longer exist, then unless there are other funds in the balance you can point to, then the subsequent bets - and winnings - become void because there are no funds to allow those wagers.

It sucks, but that's why it is of paramount importance to know the rules of any bonus you take. Any violation of the rules, however small, can result in everything being voided.
 
Indeed, if we had a list of the most complained about things in CM history, bonuses would probably be at the top. Very few sites make the effort to prevent the customer doing bad things, knowing that once the bad thing has happened they are on a freeroll - the customer loses and they're none the wiser, the customer wins and they confiscate the winnings.

Bonuses used correctly can be great for additional play time, and there are stories over the years of people winning big from them. Similarly there are countless horror stories of wins being voided for the smallest of mistakes, and likewise monster wins being decimated by maximum redemption clauses (capped payouts) - someone finally hitting their $20k dream hit, only to see a $500 bonus cap clause wipe out the balance.
 
It's not necessarily the bonus terms I disagree with here. I disagree with the software allowing a a violation of bet when spinning on a bonus. If the cash can be a separate account from the bonus credits and monitored in real time, why wouldn't it make adjustments to the game? It's definitely not a limitation in a development sense. The industry needs to implement a limitation on developers. So that fair practices are in fact fair.
 
It's not necessarily the bonus terms I disagree with here. I disagree with the software allowing a a violation of bet when spinning on a bonus. If the cash can be a separate account from the bonus credits and monitored in real time, why wouldn't it make adjustments to the game? It's definitely not a limitation in a development sense. The industry needs to implement a limitation on developers. So that fair practices are in fact fair.
Yes but they want you to break the bonus terms and then they can confiscate your winnings or just keep your money if you lose
Good casinos will help prevent you from breaking the terms with messages and so forth but a lot of casinos won't. Casinos want your money (shocking, I know)
 
This is why I don't take bonuses, load of old nonsense and hoops to jump through, and the casinos will use any excuse not to pay you so best avoid them - play with your own money alone and then you can never be in this position.
 
This is why I don't take bonuses, load of old nonsense and hoops to jump through, and the casinos will use any excuse not to pay you so best avoid them - play with your own money alone and then you can never be in this position.
Yeah haven't since. Had to reevaluate my whole strategy. It just to much work to read every Casino's terms and conditions on bouns plays. It's all a bunch of non sense anyway. From what I gather it's a long shot to even cash out having any sort of bonus. Even the no rules bonus's.
 

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