1. By continuing to use the site, you agree to the use of cookies .This website or its third-party tools use cookies, which are necessary to its functioning and required to achieve the purposes illustrated in the cookie policy.Find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Follow Casinomeister on Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Casinomeister.us US Residents Click here! |  Svenska Svenska | 
Dismiss Notice
REGISTER NOW!! Why? Because you can't do diddly squat without having been registered!

At the moment you have limited access to view most discussions: you can't make contact with thousands of fellow players, affiliates, casino reps, and all sorts of other riff-raff.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join Casinomeister here!

Lost the wow factor

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by dogshead1, Jul 21, 2017.

    Jul 21, 2017
  1. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Security
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Well I'd taken a break from online slots for three weeks. Was fed up of egg timer deposits, extremely low RTP on sessions and feature payouts that would make you wanna spew.

    TBH the fun went out of online slotting for me roughly 3 months ago. My last big cash was about March/April time and even that was no fun. Was a good hit but that was all. As soon as I turned to other slots I just saw my balance rapidly decline again. Yes we all know slots are totally random but lets say you have a few hundred quid balance and reduce your bet sizes to micro - to medium sized bets, one would think or expect a better/longer session and at some point an upward spike in your RTP taking you above or slightly below profit for that game or even break even. More often that not you are going to lose and its obviously always wise to walk away when your ahead.

    Play as of late tho IMO seems more of a lottery. You choose your website you log in deposit and either pre determined a winning day or immediate loss.
     
  2. Jul 21, 2017
  3. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    Yep the wow factor is gone. It's more like a war of attrition nowadays :mad:

    Of course nothing beats that ascent when the games are playing well....but when did that last happen? It's become too reliant on getting miraculous wonder-hits just to keep afloat. Where's the fun to be had in losing 75% of your bankroll only to get 50% of it back :confused:

    I used to remember having actual sessions with ample playtime...what happened? :mad::mad:
     
  4. Jul 22, 2017
  5. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    NOT playing slots
    Location:
    germany
    yeah, they're taking us all to the cleaners.
     
  6. Jul 22, 2017
  7. slotmaster

    slotmaster Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    Being great and stressed
    Location:
    stressville
    I agree with everything. I am kinda glad it's just not me.:oops:.
     
  8. Jul 22, 2017
  9. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    See? It is possible to have a sensible discussion without mentioning that slots are rigged!

    Oh

    wait :oops::oops:
     
  10. Jul 22, 2017
  11. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Developer
    Location:
    Green Park, London
    Certainly noticed a difference with NetEnt slots over the past couple of months. It's hard enough getting a bonus but when you do it pays hardly anything.

    Microgaming on the other hand, I'm 7 or 8 sessions in profit playing Immortal Romance :eek:
     
  12. Jul 22, 2017
  13. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Security
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Not one person in this discussion had suggested they are rigged. However whilst you bring it up. Any Random number generator is an algorithm designed to Randomise the win/lose variable in any given result being slots, online roulette, blackjack etc. It's a human designed code written into the computers mainframe and that code my friend is a reference for the software when determining the end result. Could that with the fact the a slot provider has to be profitable hence why they created the damn things then of course it's all rigged. Can also be easily altered or re written too. After all you don't want an RNG thats is going to cripple your business do you?

    Theoretically it's designed to Return to any given player a set percentage in the long term. Who's to say how this is governed. Knobody has really questioned this. Online slots have min bets as low as 1p per line and max of £100 plus. On maximum bet potential wins could be in the £100,000s.
    So the real question here is are they designing their RTP over that later figure? If so then the majority of us are all fucked and the bigger player with larger bankrolls are laughing all day long no?
     
  14. Jul 22, 2017
  15. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    Haven't dabbled in Netent for so long, bar the odd DOA punt or Reel Steal cockup.

    Microgaming does its best to raise my hope more often than not before smashing it against a wall in a very predictable manner.

    Would love to try a different supplier (Playtech doesn't count) but haven't dared to venture outside the big two. Perhaps Play 'n' Go, Quickspin? Any good ones out there?
     
  16. Jul 22, 2017
  17. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

    Occupation:
    Manager
    Location:
    West Sussex
    I have had a fantastic year so far slotting until about 10 days ago. Now I can't hit a thing and deposit after deposit have very quickly gone to nothing. So I have removed every penny from my slotting account and I have put myself on a strict budget to make sure I don't give it all back
     
  18. Jul 22, 2017
  19. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    First part yes, second part nope. It's been pointed out before somewhere that how bigger bets take a massive nosedive in RTP, almost as if by a miracle.

    Or else we'd all re-mortgage our houses, sell the car, put the living room on Ebay and take a few hundred spins on DOA, Bonananza and the rest. There has to be some safeguards in the programming but to what extent is ultimately just sheer conjecture....
     
  20. Jul 22, 2017
  21. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

    Occupation:
    Fraud & Underwriting Team VRP / YapStone
    Location:
    Dún Dealgan
    Haha Nicola,that is odd.
    I feel exactly the opposite.

    I have made some good profit last 2 weeks on mostly Netent slots.
    Playing them around €2.00 a spin and came out in good profit on Frankenstein, Egg O Matic, Gonzo's Quest (Got a 5 scatter FS for 380x), Lost Island, Muse, Flowers winter Edition...Made at least 2k profit on these last week.
    On the other hand MGS is taking the piss. Can't hit anything.
    Got 3 Wild Romance feature on IR this week and all 3 times only 1 wild reel with 2x a 0 pay.
    But the worst must be Playboy, flushed 6k spins through this week and managed an RTP% of 82% over multiple sessions.
    Last 10 free spins paid all less than 15x on the 15 spins with adding wilds, no wilds to be seen anywhere. :(
    Brutal.

    So I am seriously thinking of quitting to play MGS slots as they used to be my lucky slots but as of late I spit on them..
    0 pay, 0 amusement and tons of dead spins.

    Ok,I play the higher volatile ones but still.... :mad:

    Had great playtime on Netent and WMS and even Play n Go.
    Also had a few good hits on Merkur slots.

    MGS and also Thunderkick and Red Tiger Gaming are a no go for me, brutal bad paying slots for me.
     
  22. Jul 23, 2017
  23. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    An RNG is a random number generator that gives random numbers. They neither cripple not determine the successful of the game. The maths of the game - i.e what the random numbers are used for - determine its success. A shit game won't make money. A good game will. But they will all, over time, hit the RTP they were designed for. That's where the casinos and developers make their money.

    They don't care who plays the game. Hence the very idea of compensated or rigged games makes no sense... They don't care if dunover loses 200 and LockInLove makes 190 profit. They still made 10 quid.

    Your second point makes no sense...everybody, especially on certain threads in here, has question the governance, fairness and such and I've done my best to answer. And maths is designed with total ignorance to stake. The RTP is stake independent as is the behaviour of the game. Most companies track RTP by stake, as one person playing at 500 quid a spin can massive skew the overall RTP.

    Oh and you said:
    "Play as of late tho IMO seems more of a lottery. You choose your website you log in deposit and either pre determined a winning day or immediate loss."
    I think most of us would read that as you saying they are rigged :)
     
  24. Jul 23, 2017
  25. mathsboy1975

    mathsboy1975 Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    software engineer
    Location:
    UK London
    I have to say the reverse for me with NetEnt. I took a long break from playing (self exluded from all but a handful of outfits these days) and risked opening up an account with a new UKGC licensed but Casinomeister uncredited casino - about a month ago. I dropped £100 in built it up to 200, started playing JATB and dropped a 1000-1 payout in the bonus round. Then upped the stake considerably (maxed at playing £20 a spin) for Deveils delight dropped an £8K bonus round.
    Basically I could not lose whatever game I played.
    Been here before about 3 times in the past and put the lot back in (usually while playing under the influence of a few drinke) but that experience made me wiser and harder so I eventually saw £12K in my account and withdrew it. I withdrew over several transactions and was basically sh*tting myself about not getting paid due to the uncredited Casinomeister issue (not that it is deemed rogue - it is just nowhere on the radar here as far as I can tell) but they paid up every penny.

    The OP issue was the reason I self excluded from most places about 18 months ago. The fun was gone. I only opened up this account from sheer boredom. I was grateful for the win and after it was all in my account I made a deposit at another place playing MG games - and again the fun was gone (I have to say that after a long break, coming back to it made me realise how dull MG games are now. I actually enjoyed the NetEnt experience but can't say in honesty if it was related to the winning or the playing).

    I will probably remain an occasional player though. Deep down I love a bet but as mentioned by OP, slots can be relentless if your luck is out.
     
  26. Jul 23, 2017
  27. Mouche12

    Mouche12 Kitty Lover PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Translator and facilities manager
    Location:
    Amsterdam
    Why not Playtech at Videoslots? I was thinking myself to give these a try, see if it will result in an improvement of my playtime there - it can't be worse than Bonanza? I appreciate you may want to avoid Playtech casinos for the most part.
     
  28. Jul 23, 2017
  29. rena35

    rena35 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    writing/poetry
    Location:
    cyber space
    I lost the WOW factor a few months back when it became clear i would only win enough to buy dinner at an all you can eat place :D. Been gaming for about 8 years now and have never made a profit, just a little over my start balance sometimes. Tried different software, used to get mad but now i try to garner what enjoyment i can before, during and after work. Some people have had sessions where they can't lose, i am sure it will happen to me one day. For now i just sit back and play without the stress of the WOW :D.
     
  30. Jul 23, 2017
  31. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia

    I like the software, they're just terrible for playtime :thumbsup:
     
  32. Jul 23, 2017
  33. Kelly Jo

    Kelly Jo Senior Member MM

    Occupation:
    painter
    Location:
    United States
    Gesus H, goatwack. You do this. Every. Single. Time.

    hahahahahahahaha
     
  34. Jul 23, 2017
  35. adamtheaddict

    adamtheaddict Senior Member

    Occupation:
    fruits
    Location:
    Kent
    What with the turnover of players on this site, there will always be new people with the same questions. I fear for you if you spend the next 10 years replying here, it may well result in perhaps your later years having been confined to a mental institution to be left alone sitting in a corner rolling some dice. The only question then will be between the carers; "that dude ok?, he keeps rolling and saying random everytime a number appears". "don't worry, he is calm atm. Its only when he gets out his bag of marbles and starts shouting that wierd are tee pee shit that you need to run like a mother f¥#%$r before they are launched everywhere".
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2017
  36. Jul 23, 2017
  37. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

    Occupation:
    Turns Tricks
    Location:
    Londonia
    :laugh::laugh:

    Classic :thumbsup:
     
  38. Jul 23, 2017
  39. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Games Producer
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    I don't mind replying.. especially if I can add anything not already covered. Probably better me going to the MeisterMeet though. And yeah... Some people can never be convinced and thats cool... Even I sometimes think my own game has switched to "take mode" - but of course I know it's random. No one outside of my team has that proof!
     

Share This Page