Losing Streak After a Big Win

[johnnybagel]

Could be psychological. Like if you have lots in your account before you withdraw you are more likely to push it and build your balance back up after a losing streak. If all you have is a single deposit after withdrawing a larger amount, it's easier to bust because you don't have a buffer.

 

[Bloatgoat]

@trancemonkey Helly Baby. What a interesting thread. People win big, withdrawl, and cant seem to win for a few sessions all together. Care to elaborate? Or is there a secret hidden system preventing players to win more then they really should?

 

[Kroffe]

 

[Playford7]

Trance and bloat should do a CM sponsored charity boxing fight at the next meet, it’d be a sell out lol

 

[Bloatgoat]

Trance and bloat should do a CM sponsored charity boxing fight at the next meet, it’d be a sell out lol

I bet it's fixed.

 

[Kroffe]

I bet it's fixed.

You would probably be able to win the first match easy, but then get seriously beat up in the next 10.

 

[Playford7]

I bet it's fixed.

Haha!!! Quality reply mate!!!! Genuinely made me lol that!. Ha!..

 

[trancemonkey]

Odds of win over 100x - probably around 1 in 1000 (at most)...

Hmmm.. wonder why after getting a super lucky big win I can't get another one...

Clearly 1 in 1000 wins should happen 1 in 50 games

 

[Kroffe]

Odds of win over 100x - probably around 1 in 1000 (at most)...

Hmmm.. wonder why after getting a super lucky big win I can't get another one...

Clearly 1 in 1000 wins should happen 1 in 50 games

Yeah, i never understood why no provider has made a slot like that.
All i want is a slot that is extremely low volatile, but pays out 100x+ wins every 20-30 spins.

I mean, everybody would be playing the slot, so the provider would make alot of money.

 

[Bloatgoat]

But he did'nt said, i cant a big win all the time. He wrote it was obviously difficult to hit something at all, aka slots being extremely cold after a big withdrawl.

 

[trancemonkey]

But he did'nt said, i cant a big win all the time. He wrote it was obviously difficult to hit something at all, aka slots being extremely cold after a big withdrawl.

Yes, a big withdrawal is extremely rare. It is simple statistics. Therefore 2 of them is very very rare... it really is super simple maths.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I've said before that I have sympathy for this viewpoint. It's not just me, people I know and speak to also see the same thing. It's not just not getting another big hit, the general gameplay goes right down the pan. Where on an average session you may see bonuses every 150-200 spins or so, after a big withdraw you seem to start going 5-600 spins before a bonus, if at all. I mean, gameplay seriously goes down the pan.

Could just be simple psychology but it seems more than that to me.

I'm not going to start collecting data on it as, quite frankly, I'm not that arsed and I've always said it is what it is...but I do have some sympathy for the people who see the same thing and feel massively aggrieved by it (even if there is nothing untoward going on).

 

[trancemonkey]

I bet it's fixed.

To be fair Bloaty, whilst you generally frustrate the hell out of me, that was a genuinely funny reply

 

[trancemonkey]

I've said before that I have sympathy for this viewpoint. It's not just me, people I know and speak to also see the same thing. It's not just not getting another big hit, the general gameplay goes right down the pan. Where on an average session you may see bonuses every 150-200 spins or so, after a big withdraw you seem to start going 5-600 spins before a bonus, if at all. I mean, gameplay seriously goes down the pan.

Could just be simple psychology but it seems more than that to me.

I'm not going to start collecting data on it as, quite frankly, I'm not that arsed and I've always said it is what it is...but I do have some sympathy for the people who see the same thing and feel massively aggrieved by it (even if there is nothing untoward going on).

I challenge anyone who can be arsed... please collect data on it. Then please use this data to prove or disprove the hypothesis

 

[EkJR]

Had two weeks of non stop wins, everything I played I was winning heavily on. This week I cant get near a bonus on games which normally do me a turn. Have set a timeout for a couple of weeks as now given back half my winnings!

 

[samdog21]

When you win more than you lose at a casino me by 2800 net, they don't like that hense cant win shit now ,so move on✌

 

[LoopsterAU]

Had two weeks of non stop wins, everything I played I was winning heavily on. This week I cant get near a bonus on games which normally do me a turn. Have set a timeout for a couple of weeks as now given back half my winnings!

Between September last year and Jan this year I was around 80k in profit for that duration where hitting big wins on big stakes felt so easy. Yes after a 20k withdrawal around 5k would go back in but then I would get another 15k one and so on.

Between Feb and April this year it was pretty bad and around 30k of that 80k profit gone. A lot of gaming time though so it didn't go too fast, still some withdrawals but slowly on downward spiral. May till now absolute bad runs of barely been able to win anything besides some wins getting me up with huge wagering to go on bonus before losing it (other 50k gone and back to square one).

Made a promise to myself that I am giving making any deposits at all a break until start of next year.

Will post if the bad run continues or if magically all of the sudden I have some 15 - 20k wins to get me hooked again after taking extended break.

 

[Siohmy]

This is insane isn’t it? Firstly, what constitutes a “big win” in people’s eyes? As posted on the thread now closed, I’ve managed a biggest win of 273x over nearly 25,000 spins (I had a few more spins for those keeping track). Does this count? As Dunover joked earlier, depending on your definition of big win, be grateful for it as they are not guaranteed.

As for going on a losing streak after a big win? It’s called increased volatility of today’s slots, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Don't be rigged now]

It’s turning into a bit off a joke now. 4 weeks of nice withdrawals followed by complete empty sessions the next day - it’s like they wait for you to fill it back up. Bonus’s paying 2x on games that almost always pay at least 20x minimum. Of course we are all delirious though LOL. Think I need to pack slots in it’s driving me mad. There is something that goes on in the background we are just brainwashed to think otherwise. Got no issues with losing but the way the games clearly change behaviour is a real problem, just don’t have the technical nouse to prove it. Also switching device and or/ip address seems to have a drastic impact on play?

 

[Kroffe]

It’s turning into a bit off a joke now. 4 weeks of nice withdrawals followed by complete empty sessions the next day - it’s like they wait for you to fill it back up. Bonus’s paying 2x on games that almost always pay at least 20x minimum. Of course we are all delirious though LOL. Think I need to pack slots in it’s driving me mad. There is something that goes on in the background we are just brainwashed to think otherwise. Got no issues with losing but the way the games clearly change behaviour is a real problem, just don’t have the technical nouse to prove it. Also switching device and or/ip address seems to have a drastic impact on play?

If all it takes to avoid the rigged-ness of it all is to swap device/ip, then whats the problem?
You dont need much technical skills to get the numbers showing what you say.
Just download slot tracker and voila, data to back up what you are saying!

 

[Bloatgoat]

I remember when my phone switched off from wireless, falling back onto my dutch IP favored alot of better overall play. That was untill they noted my switch on accident and only allowed IP's from the country that i am in. I'm pretty sure that different country IP's offer a different RTP as well. It's bin stated here on these forums as well that some country's have lower RTP compared to A+ country's.

 

[Kroffe]

I remember when my phone switched off from wireless, falling back onto my dutch IP favored alot of better overall play. That was untill they noted my switch on accident and only allowed IP's from the country that i am in. I'm pretty sure that different country IP's offer a different RTP as well. It's bin stated here on these forums as well that some country's have lower RTP compared to A+ country's.

But that is not something hidden, right?
Different markets can have different rtp:s, but that means different versions of the slot, wich will show in the helpfile.
Ive played with swedish,croatian&norwegian ip adresses, and no casino said anything about it.
I did say i was going to be abroad, and that i might login using a different ip, but was no problem, and i didnt suddenly go on a winstreak because of it.

Wouldnt it make alot more sense to rig things per account instead of per ip-adress?
You can change your ip/device easy, but changing account is a bit trickier.

 

[Bloatgoat]

It took less then a half day for the casino to start blocking IP's abroad. So yeah appearantly its an advantage for me they dont want to give me.

 

[Kroffe]

Well im blocked from using the quickspin option on slots.
So yeah, apparently its an advantage they dont want to give me.

 

[pinnit2014]

If all it takes to avoid the rigged-ness of it all is to swap device/ip, then whats the problem?
You dont need much technical skills to get the numbers showing what you say.
Just download slot tracker and voila, data to back up what you are saying!

We don't need data to tell us things; like, how crap Gonzo plays (very), how many 3kx on Bonanza's i've had (0).

Re play after withdrawals - meh - Pinette won a decent amount on 32Red last week and from another 2 withdrawals took out twice similar again over the next few days there. I remember taking 3.5k out of Bonanza over a few days and then winning the 2k Reel Race (on Moon P of all shitty games), 2 days later. Equally, i mind taking money out on Monday and taking a week to see a 10x sometimes. So yo-yo - as it's always been.