Long 50% contribution list

[LadyJelena]

Hellooo

I was wondering, as I didn't play in so many different casinos, is this really long list of games which contribute 50% towards the wagering requirements acceptable?

All Netent games
Big Bad Wolf
Diamond Tower
Serengeti Diamonds
Frog N flies
Medusa 2
Foxin wins
Moon Temple
King Kong
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Frankenstein
Crime Scene
Thunderstruck II
Mermaids Millions
Alaskan Fishing
What A Hoot
Football Star
Game of Thrones
Bar Bar Black Sheep
Avalon
Immortal Romance
Double Play Superbet
Spin Sorceress
Witch Pickings
Poltava
DJ Wild
Lost Vegas
Raging Rhino
Pretty Kitty
Hot Cross Bunnies
Taco brothers
Electric sam
Bloopers
Immortal Romance
The Finer Reels of Life
Gold Factory
Leagues of Fortune
Tarzan
Titans of the Sun - Hyperion
Golden
Montezuma
Bier Haus
Fire Queen
Red Flag Fleet
Bridesmaids
Wild Blood
Super Sumo
Zoom
Volcano Eruption
A Dragons Story
Foxin Wins Again
Miss Midas
Fruit Warp
Taco Brothers Saving Christmas
Bonanza
Flame Busters
Legend of White Buffalo
Spartacus
Legend of White Buffalo
Spartacus
Leprechaun's Luck
Mr. Cashback
Great Blue
Wild Gambler
Santa Surprise
White king
3 Card Brag
Perfect BlackJack
Golden
Jurassic World
Goldwyn’s Fairies
Break Da Bank Again
Wild Play Superbet
Life of Riches
Cool Buck
Jurassic Park
Babushkas
Ivanhoe
Emoticoins
Oink Country Love
Win Sum Dim Sum
A While on the Nile
King Kong Cash
Wild Antics
Jungle Jackpot
Imperial Dragon
Emojiplanet
Munchkins
Reel Strike
Zeus III
panda pow
Forbidden Throne
Enchanting Spells
Cashapillar
Esqueleto Explosivo
Luchadora
Blood Queen
Snow Leopard
Sword of Destiny
The Cheshire Cat TED
Super Lucky Frog
Dolphin Gold with Stellar Jackpots
Danger! High Voltage
Birds on Wire
The Spin Lab
Dragon Drop
Psycho
Batman 2016
Starmania
Enchanting Spells
Leagues of Fortune
Avalon II
The Finer Reels of Life
Girls with Guns I
Goldwyns Fairies
Playboy
Terminator 2
Huangdi - The Yellow Emperor
Cash Crazy
Fruit vs Candy
Jackpot Poker
Casino Holdem
Tasty Street
Gnome Wood
108 Heroes Multiplier Fortunes
Fruit blast
Moby Dick
Mega Money Rush
Secret Romance
Golden Princess
Fortune Girl
Cool Buck
Excalibur
Wild Turkey
Hall of Gods
Motorhead
Glow
The Invisible Man
Joker Pro
Superwilds
Dragonz
The Twisted Circus
Rabbit in the Hat
Secrets of Atlantis
DoublePlay SuperBet
Reel Gems
Pyramid: Quest for Immortality
Dragon Island
Fisticuffs
Boom Brothers
Zombies
Demolition Squad
Fortunes of the Dead
Prosperity Twin
Renegades
Foxin' Wins Christmas Edition
Blazin' Hot 7's
Pink Elephants
Acorn Pixie
The Enforcer
Glitter Gems
Electric Nights
Foxin' Wins Christmas Edition
Deco Diamonds
Spin or Reels HD
Lucky 3
Fruit Boxes
Booster
Slot Gamble - Beat the Dealer
Zeus 2
Wild Jester
Shark Meet
Cherry Bomb Deluxe
Dolphin´s Luck 2
Light Em Up
King Chameleon
Rumble Rumble
Cash Cave
Pixie Wings
Queen of Gold
Dragon Kingdom
Vegas Nights
Bully4U
Time is Money
Cash Camel
Lucky Little Gods
Wish Upon a Leprechaun
Cleo's Wish
Eye of the Amulet
Joker Stacks
Double Bonus Poker 1 Hand
Eye of Amulet
Bust The Bank
The Sand Princess
Exotic Fruit
Big Apple Wins
Booming Seven Deluxe

 

[dionysus]

stupidly long
alas, more and more common

 

[goatwack]

No. That's shocking.

I remember when it was just DOA

 

[dionysus]

and even sadder, long lists which contribute 0% more often

 

[goatwack]

Just what is the point, really. Oh I see: Don't call it 70x wagering, we'll simply say 35x, but halve slot contributions. D'oh!

 

[LadyJelena]

Though so! Yes I remember also when only DOA and Bloodsuckers or/and a few more of them were excluded or less contributing.

Makes me wonder what to f**kin play then.

 

[Tirilej]

No, it's not acceptable at all. It's more there to deceive the player. So where do they have it?

 

[LadyJelena]

No, it's not acceptable at all. It's more there to deceive the player. So where do they have it?

Spotted it in the Casinoluck. Will speak to them to hear the opinion and if this list can be at least reduced.

 

[dionysus]

its reason enough for me to not deposit despite any other considerations
ive 0 interest in having to check the ts and cs each time i open a game

 

[Tirilej]

Spotted it in the Casinoluck. Will speak to them to hear the opinion and if this list can be at least reduced.

They shouldn't even be on the accredited list. I doubt though that any members of CM are playing there anymore. Maybe that's why it's so quiet about them.
I'm not surprised at all of that list there. Not at all.

 

[LadyJelena]

Used to be really good and popular Hope we can make them think again

 

[Tirilej]

Used to be really good and popular Hope we can make them think again

They won't change because you talk to them so don't bother. They know what we think about them and their behaviour and they stopped caring a long time ago.

 

[goatwack]

There's so much choice now, players are voting with their wallets. I don't think seasoned slotters is who this is aimed at

Guess they made their decision which side they're on with that list

 

[Tirilej]

Used to be really good and popular Hope we can make them think again

You could read this thread and maybe you'll see what I mean. There have been other threads after but this one says it all.
CasinoLuck and NextCasino are changing platform

 

[dionysus]

im not saying GUTS is the be all end all, but at least they make your slots selection simple with a bonus

 

[goatwack]

Used to be that casinos feared volatility, with the likes of DOA being the first to be sin-binned. Blood suckers has been infamous in its returns, so that's understandable.

Now they're effectively prohibiting any slot that could pay.......anything.

Zombies? Zoom??

 

[NeverLucky]

All Netent games

Yet they proceed to list some of them..
So to sum it up. No NetEnt, quite a few good Microgaming & NYX banned, no Bonanza or DHV... yeah, no thank you.

 

[pinnit2014]

Not often I opt out of marketing (being a bit of a free spins tart) but they were one I did. Doesn’t surprise me it’s them to be honest. I’d struggle to make x5 wagering with Netents

 

[dunover]

Numerous casinos do this shit and it's plain misleading and wrong. I know the EGO sites do this and only their in-house Green Valley slots count 100% yet they still base their advertised WR on those few games and NOT the majority. I have had a few arguments with aff managers about this, funnily enough today Wixstars were asking 'why don't I push them?' and I can paste you a Skype conversation from earlier:

(There is previous history to this; I was promised a 25xD+B wagering for my players, less than the 35xD+B at that time and they made a special landing page for me, only for me to discover that my players were in fact STILL being given the old one. I got some serious shit for that so after giving them a bollocking I simple shoved them down and didn't bother pushing them. They aren't rogue, players say they get paid quick enough and without hassle but the bonus terms aren't great.)

X: How are you?
ME: Fine ta, you?
X: Good to hear - we improved significantly the wagering terms to x35 times deposit
X: Right, do you think you can give us another push as you did last time? the results were quite good
ME: When I check the terms yes - some casinos state 35x then you find it doesn't apply to many games as they only contribute 50% to wagering. As long as I don't find a silly amount of reduced games then I can give a another pcuh.
ME: Push sorry.
X: ok, let me check if I can create a bonus especially for your account that will contribute 100% on all games
ME: My viewers are far too savvy to not check the terms thoroughly and pull me up on any hidden nasties which as I explained before is why I'm very careful what I promote...
X: I understand and that's why I'll check with our CRM if we can set this type of bonus
ME: OK

Now notice as soon as I mentioned the 50% slots (they tried tucking me up once before as I explained that's why I was immediately looking at my BS detector there!) the manager vanishes to 'see if he can create a special for me'.......

It seems that certain sites forced to offer UK players a separate non-tied cash-bonus account by the UKGC are now sneaking in these reduced WR contribution slots so that they can sound competitive with headline statements of 'ONLY 35xB wagering...' so make sure you are all aware of this BS.

 

[Jono777]

Only read OP ( ) Has to be AG sites for sure

Wouldn't play there if you gave me the money to lol.

Gutted when 3 of my life long faves (Next/CL/WS) moved to them

 

[dunover]

Playclub do this as well, a long list of 50% slots.

 

[TheAddict]

im not saying GUTS is the be all end all, but at least they make your slots selection simple with a bonus

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Cheers man. For some reason i got it into my head that doa is excluded from bonuses there now. But after looking again, i realize its just the welcome offer.

As for casinoluck, t'was once my fav casino *sobs uncontrollably*

 

[Harry_BKK]

Used to be really good and popular Hope we can make them think again

Nope, they won't because they "ascended" into the Aspire Global empire, or so they thought. They only have like a gazillion skins.

At the beginning they tried to scam players by not highlighting the link to the game contributions. I think only their "sh*tty" NeoGames contribute 100%, well, it would be for me as their games selection in my region is much smaller because of geo-restrictions on some game providers.

Plus, up to 3 days pending on withdrawals and a ton of other things. For most if not all of us it was the perfect "Fall from Grace" award candidate.

Used to play a lot at CL/Next, NEVER again!

 

[bowki]

And dont forget this nice little rule:

The "Welcome bonus" is limited to one bonus per household. Aspire Global operates a number of casino brands ("Aspire Global's brands") and reserves the right to limit the number of Welcome Bonuses that may be taken up by a player across Aspire Global's brands in the following way. By claiming this welcome bonus offer at Wixstars , you are prohibited from claiming a welcome bonus at other Aspire Global's brands. Any attempt to try to deceive management by registering multiple accounts within Aspire Global's brands in order to gain bonus money, may be deemed as bonus abuse and may result in the account(s) being suspended and the removal of your funds.


I have accounts at CL/Next before they migrated but havent made a single deposit since that day.

 

[sapit222]

I closed my account at both Casinoluck and Nextcasino when they went bad before.
Its as simple as that.

They and other casinos like them shouldnt be accredited or advertised etc.

 

[Lincolnuk]

Jeez. Is there any games left that are 100%

 

[KasinoKing]

That is utter bollox - and FAR too common these days
Surely it would be a shorter list if they just said which slots DO count at 100%!

It's beyond stupid and I wish CM would remove Accreditation from any casino spouting bullshit like this.

KK

 

[Tirilej]

That is utter bollox - and FAR too common these days
Surely it would be a shorter list if they just said which slots DO count at 100%!

It's beyond stupid and I wish CM would remove Accreditation from any casino spouting bullshit like this.

KK

I wonder if Bryan can't at least make them go through a second BBF or something. There are others like Ikibu that also have really awful bonus rules.
If he doesn't want that then it should be warning signs in their review....and really low points.

@Casinomeister maybe something to look into?

 

[brianmon]

I wonder if Bryan can't at least make them go through a second BBF or something. There are others like Ikibu that also have really awful bonus rules.
If he doesn't want that then it should be warning signs in their review....and really low points.

@Casinomeister maybe something to look into?

CasinoLuck, NextCasino and WildSlots should be put through the BBF anyway. They initially said they were just changing platforms from EveryMatrix.
But ever since that change it's become pretty clear that it was actually a takeover by AG.
Bit by bit they replaced the original promotional and general T&C with the standard AG T&C. Until now they are identical and just another AG site.

The clause mentioned previously proves this

• The "Welcome bonus" is limited to one bonus per household. Aspire Global operates a number of casino brands ("Aspire Global's brands") and reserves the right to limit the number of Welcome Bonuses that may be taken up by a player across Aspire Global's brands in the following way. By claiming this welcome bonus offer at CasinoLuck , you are prohibited from claiming a welcome bonus at other Aspire Global's brands. Any attempt to try to deceive management by registering multiple accounts within Aspire Global's brands in order to gain bonus money, may be deemed as bonus abuse and may result in the account(s) being suspended and the removal of your funds. For list of Aspire Global's brands
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If they were independent and only using the AG platform, then why would CasinoLuck be bothered about anyone taking a bonus at another AG site?

 

[Tirilej]

Thanks for that link to their websites so we know which ones to avoid

Except for Karamba I've never recieved so much spam for a casino as from MrPlay. I simply hate them

 

[brianmon]

It seems that certain sites forced to offer UK players a separate non-tied cash-bonus account by the UKGC are now sneaking in these reduced WR contribution slots so that they can sound competitive with headline statements of 'ONLY 35xB wagering...' so make sure you are all aware of this BS.

I really don't understand casinos' thinking behind this. Ok you can cashout if you don't use the bonus funds at all.
But it's actually harder to get through the bonus now, even with the original wagering and restrictions.

If you take 32Red as an example. Since they're probably the most straightforward

Previously 30xB, cash and bonus locked for a £100 and 100% bonus that would be £3000 wagering or more importantly 15x your starting balance of £200.

Now 30xB cash and bonus separate, for a £100 and 100% bonus that would be still be £3000 wagering. But now since they're not locked, 30x your starting balance of £100. Because wagering doesn't start until you hit the bonus money.

So it's same wagering but half the balance to get through it.

It just shows how much they were previously relying on deposits being trapped by wagering

 

[dionysus]

Except for Karamba I've never recieved so much spam for a casino as from MrPlay. I simply hate them

every day this week - same guys who keep flogging casumo

 

[SpinUk]

Numerous casinos do this shit and it's plain misleading and wrong. I know the EGO sites do this and only their in-house Green Valley slots count 100% yet they still base their advertised WR on those few games and NOT the majority. I have had a few arguments with aff managers about this, funnily enough today Wixstars were asking 'why don't I push them?' and I can paste you a Skype conversation from earlier:

(There is previous history to this; I was promised a 25xD+B wagering for my players, less than the 35xD+B at that time and they made a special landing page for me, only for me to discover that my players were in fact STILL being given the old one. I got some serious shit for that so after giving them a bollocking I simple shoved them down and didn't bother pushing them. They aren't rogue, players say they get paid quick enough and without hassle but the bonus terms aren't great.)

X: How are you?
ME: Fine ta, you?
X: Good to hear - we improved significantly the wagering terms to x35 times deposit
X: Right, do you think you can give us another push as you did last time? the results were quite good
ME: When I check the terms yes - some casinos state 35x then you find it doesn't apply to many games as they only contribute 50% to wagering. As long as I don't find a silly amount of reduced games then I can give a another pcuh.
ME: Push sorry.
X: ok, let me check if I can create a bonus especially for your account that will contribute 100% on all games
ME: My viewers are far too savvy to not check the terms thoroughly and pull me up on any hidden nasties which as I explained before is why I'm very careful what I promote...
X: I understand and that's why I'll check with our CRM if we can set this type of bonus
ME: OK

Now notice as soon as I mentioned the 50% slots (they tried tucking me up once before as I explained that's why I was immediately looking at my BS detector there!) the manager vanishes to 'see if he can create a special for me'.......

It seems that certain sites forced to offer UK players a separate non-tied cash-bonus account by the UKGC are now sneaking in these reduced WR contribution slots so that they can sound competitive with headline statements of 'ONLY 35xB wagering...' so make sure you are all aware of this BS.

Thats an interesting point.

Specifically interesting as Wixstars, Karamba and the rest of the Aspire Global group etc are STILL not adhering to the UKGC ruling on not tying your bonus to your account, even on request with chat, and even on reminder of the UKGC rules.

So to illustrate, if I deposit £100 with a £50 bonus, and win on my 5th spin, I still have to wager through the £150 35 times, and cannot withdraw the cash amount, even though I have not touched the bonus.

Completely at odds with the UKGC rules.

IMHO that is a bigger deal breaker than the contribution on the games.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

If you take 32Red as an example. Since they're probably the most straightforward

Previously 30xB, cash and bonus locked for a £100 and 100% bonus that would be £3000 wagering or more importantly 15x your starting balance of £200.

Now 30xB cash and bonus separate, for a £100 and 100% bonus that would be still be £3000 wagering. But now since they're not locked, 30x your starting balance of £100. Because wagering doesn't start until you hit the bonus money.

Hi Brianmon,

Thanks for your post.

I am pretty sure that's not correct, wagering does start as soon as you have got the bonus, not when you're only left with the bonus. Unless MG have changed something I am not aware of.

Mark

 

[brianmon]

Hi Brianmon,

Thanks for your post.

I am pretty sure that's not correct, wagering does start as soon as you have got the bonus, not when you're only left with the bonus. Unless MG have changed something I am not aware of.

Mark

Sorry about that Mark. I didn't check your bonus terms before posting. I now see that 32Red has opted for a similar kind of bonus system as Casumo have, which I actually think is the fairest.
I was only using 32Red as an example, since they have a fairly low wagering, and very few restrictions.

But the example still stands for the many other casino who have now split the cash and bonus balances, without changing the wagering. Where the wagering doesn't start until you start using the bonus money

 

[LadyJelena]

Hi Brianmon,

Thanks for your post.

I am pretty sure that's not correct, wagering does start as soon as you have got the bonus, not when you're only left with the bonus. Unless MG have changed something I am not aware of.

Mark

Wow Mark! Do you have some kind of program that beeps every time 32Red is mentioned?
I'm impressed!!

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Wow Mark! Do you have some kind of program that beeps every time 32Red is mentioned?
I'm impressed!!

He he, no, but I have some CM friends who keep me on my toes. They know who they are.

Beep on brand mention sounds good though. Perhaps one for the list @Casinomeister

Mark

 

[dunover]

Tirilej is his secret spy, his CM alarm clock lol....

 

[Tirilej]

Tirilej is his secret spy, his CM alarm clock lol....

I believe he have more friends in here.
I only beep when I think he should read something, which in fact I did in this case so you weren't that wrong

 

[dionysus]

I believe he have more friends in here.
I only beep when I think he should read something, which in fact I did in this case so you weren't that wrong

i do the same - there's times ill pm a rep im friendly with if i see a heads up post. It's nice these days you can @ someone too.
Of course, reps just need to type their casino in the search bar when they log in and it shows them all the threads theyre mentioned in

 

[Tirilej]

i do the same - there's times ill pm a rep im friendly with if i see a heads up post. It's nice these days you can @ someone too.
Of course, reps just need to type their casino in the search bar when they log in and it shows them all the threads theyre mentioned in

That's true, so really I just need to give a heads up if I see someone hasn't logged in for a while. Some I even have to message at Facebook to get their asses in here
It's time I stop caring so much and leave this place alone, but I've said that too many times now so I guess no one will believe me

 

[LadyJelena]

That is too sweet

 

[goatwack]

What? Reps are real people?