London terror attack

[dionysus]

It’s the same old response time after time.
1. Diversity is our strength
2. We won’t be divided
3. Light a candle hold a vigil.
4. Rinse and repeat every other attack..
until it’s properly addressed we will keep hearing the same nonsense.

just to point out, diversity IS and CAN be a strength
Muslim is the 2nd largest religion here in Canada; how odten do you hear of terror attacks here?

pleae dont confuse zealotry and extremism with a greater whole

 

[Playford7]

just to point out, diversity IS and CAN be a strength
Muslim is the 2nd largest largest religion here in Canada; how odten do you hear of terror attacks here?

pleae dont confuse zealotry and extremism with a greater whole

just to point out, diversity IS and CAN be a strength
Muslim is the 2nd largest largest religion here in Canada; how odten do you hear of terror attacks here?

pleae dont confuse zealotry and extremism with a greater whole

Valid point. But as the percent of Muslims in Canada is 3% the chance of attacks is very little. Wait till the numbers start to grow.
Also the amount of foiled attacks upon your soil is huge, so at least the very small number are monitored correctly.

 

[goatwack]

just to point out, diversity IS and CAN be a strength
Muslim is the 2nd largest religion here in Canada; how odten do you hear of terror attacks here?

pleae dont confuse zealotry and extremism with a greater whole

Using Canada as an example is moot. Everyone is nice there

Going by real-time demographic shifts here in the downtown mean streets of London, so not the scenic postcard areas, or even other parts of England, there are many clusters of ethnicities that willingly choose not to integrate and openly decry Western ways of life. So whilst a 'diverse' region, it's not what I'd call a united symbol for strength....

Same as the multitude of politicians, Bob Geldoffs & Bonos that are so far removed from the reality of strained relations in 'less affluent' parts of e.g London.....the likes of Woolwich, Plumstead and now seemingly Streatham

 

[goatwack]

Ah ok so it appears the perp was under 'active' surveillance. Would explain the hasty response.

.....after having stabbed up a couple of innocent passers-by first, mind

 

[Playford7]

Ah ok so it appears the perp was under 'active' surveillance. Would explain the hasty response.

.....after having stabbed up a couple of innocent passers-by first, mind

The amount of that backward scum under surveillance in the uk is staggering and impossible to police.

 

[goatwack]

And all this tells these nutjobs is that they can be watched at all times and still get away with committing their deeds. No doubt that'll put the frighteners on them

Serves only to make us look even more limp than we already are to any would-be terrorist

 

[shadow123]

These terror attacks never used to to happen and as they are nearly all carried out by muslims the
only logical conclusion is that it is a an Islamic problem and there should be shame in saying so.

 

[Playford7]

These terror attacks never used to to happen and as they are nearly all carried out by muslims the
only logical conclusion is that it is a an Islamic problem and there should be shame in saying so.

Totally correct. To call it out for what it is isn’t a bad thing.
Yet as usual the usual ‘racist’ ‘bigot’ labels happen for wanting to speak about it.
I think eventually it will have to be spoken about as people are getting sick to the back teeth of the appeasement and special treatment islam gets.
It’s not like they integrate or want to be involved in western life, it’s the opposite.

 

[dealer wins]

Apparently sweden has a grenade problem, with migrant criminals and gangs using them

Talk about gratitude...

Watching bits of this vid below, it seems some of the swedish politicians think in a strange, very radical way...before anyone attacks me, I don't who this man is doing this video, (if he is infamous to liberal swedes] I once made the mistake of posting about a certain finnish lady politician, who doesn't like the EU, which caused a storm of outrage

Thats one country crossed of my "would like to visit" list. Sounds worse than here in London and thats saying something I tell ya!

 

[bamberfishcake]

Its a mental problem. Religion is a guide, just an idea, but the body and mind is the weapon.

These kind of people are nuts and its as simple as that. Its scary to think of being in this kind of situation. The annoying thing for me is we let this guy stay 'under surveillance'. What an absolute joke, no two ways about it!

If somebody threatened you in your home you would remove them, not keep them under surveillance. Our leaders are as batty as they are. Send anybody connected with extremism back to their country of origin, ban them from entry and sod what the rest of the world think.

Words cant express how angry it makes me that i live in a country next door to these people and not through my own choice but because of some batshit crazy human rights ideas that remove the innocent of their human right to safety.

Rant over, im off to bash a hippy! Just kidding, i reckon i was one in a former life.

Commiserations to anybody affected by this waste of human life.

 

[paul7388]

Its a mental problem. Religion is a guide, just an idea, but the body and mind is the weapon.

These kind of people are nuts and its as simple as that. Its scary to think of being in this kind of situation. The annoying thing for me is we let this guy stay 'under surveillance'. What an absolute joke, no two ways about it!

If somebody threatened you in your home you would remove them, not keep them under surveillance. Our leaders are as batty as they are. Send anybody connected with extremism back to their country of origin, ban them from entry and sod what the rest of the world think.

Words cant express how angry it makes me that i live in a country next door to these people and not through my own choice but because of some batshit crazy human rights ideas that remove the innocent of their human right to safety.

Rant over, im off to bash a hippy! Just kidding, i reckon i was one in a former life.

Commiserations to anybody affected by this waste of human life.

One big problem with what you say is that you can't send them back to their own country as most were born here.

Bigger problem is the act they are known and like todays idiot are getting released from prison after being jailed for terrorism offences.

Any scum like that jailed should never be released . About time they realized that you are not going to change the mindset of scum like that.

 

[geordiecolin]

Its a mental problem. Religion is a guide, just an idea, but the body and mind is the weapon.

These kind of people are nuts and its as simple as that. Its scary to think of being in this kind of situation. The annoying thing for me is we let this guy stay 'under surveillance'. What an absolute joke, no two ways about it!

If somebody threatened you in your home you would remove them, not keep them under surveillance. Our leaders are as batty as they are. Send anybody connected with extremism back to their country of origin, ban them from entry and sod what the rest of the world think.

Words cant express how angry it makes me that i live in a country next door to these people and not through my own choice but because of some batshit crazy human rights ideas that remove the innocent of their human right to safety.

Rant over, im off to bash a hippy! Just kidding, i reckon i was one in a former life.

Commiserations to anybody affected by this waste of human life.

I agree 100% with you. I can notbe bothered to get into a discussion with the ins and outs of how it has come to this because I have exausted my will to elsewhere over so long.
Mental health is not restricted to any one group. How the extremes express themselves while topping themselves is also a part of it.
But choosing to alienate one type of folk is so wrong due to its simplicity.
I could go on!

 

[Kroffe]

Thats one country crossed of my "would like to visit" list. Sounds worse than here in London and thats saying something I tell ya!

You probably have a bigger chance slipping in the shower and dying that way than you have being killed by a grenade here in Sweden.
But i bet you still take showers, dont ya?

Cant let irrational fear control your life.

 

[paul7388]

You probably have a bigger chance slipping in the shower and dying that way than you have being killed by a grenade here in Sweden.
But i bet you still take showers, dont ya?

Cant let irrational fear control your life.

Probably more chance of being killed by a Bear in Sweden than a grenade.

 

[sufferinsilence]

You probably have a bigger chance slipping in the shower and dying that way than you have being killed by a grenade here in Sweden.
But i bet you still take showers, dont ya?

Cant let irrational fear control your life.

I'm switching to taking a bath now. You scared me.

 

[bamberfishcake]

One big problem with what you say is that you can't send them back to their own country as most were born here.

Your right, i didnt think of that. I do tend to assume these terrorists are not born here. Like you say, lock them up and throw away the key if their not.

 

[goatwack]

A lot of Muslims have always lived here for many generations, especially in London.

So whilst a few born here take that 'path' themselves, it's in no small part aided by our lax 'Welcome all & sundry', heart gesture-making Government that have an aversion to keeping hardened radicals out of the UK.

Then comes the free roam to peddle their hate under the blanket of free speech and religious protection, cherry-picking the very areas I mention in London/ SE London, recruiting and converting at their leisure.

I know what'd happen if we assembled our most fervent racist UK groups and sent them to Middle Eastern countries with an olive branch between their teeth. Censored Clue: They'd be turned away

Realistic Clue: They'd be fucking imprisoned or killed promptly

 

[Playford7]

I agree 100% with you. I can notbe bothered to get into a discussion with the ins and outs of how it has come to this because I have exausted my will to elsewhere over so long.
Mental health is not restricted to any one group. How the extremes express themselves while topping themselves is also a part of it.
But choosing to alienate one type of folk is so wrong due to its simplicity.
I could go on!

What piffle col.
where do you see ‘mentally Poorly’ siks, Buddhists, hindu..jew for example committing this type of heinous crime? You don’t.
It’s a Islamic issue and needs to be addressed this way otherwise we won’t ever see any changes.
To simply say ‘oh they are bonkers’ really doesn’t cut it, it comes from many years of reading the Koran and how they take it and what kind of brainwashing they have had.
This phenomenon is solely down to one group, that’s the thing.
Muslims are massively over represented when it comes to terror attacks (also grooming) but that’s another discussion altogether.
Until islam is mentioned as the cause this will run and run and sadly many others will be killed in the name of Islam.

 

[The Dude]

Well, I disagree on blaming the religion - it's the mentality of a religious fundamentalist. Nearly all terror attacks in the States have been made by white Bible thumping Christians.

 

[geordiecolin]

A lot of Muslims have always lived here for many generations, especially in London.

So whilst a few born here take that 'path' themselves, it's in no small part aided by our lax 'Welcome all & sundry', heart gesture-making Government that have an aversion to keeping hardened radicals out of the UK.

Then comes the free roam to peddle their hate under the blanket of free speech and religious protection, cherry-picking the very areas I mention in London/ SE London, recruiting and converting at their leisure.

I know what'd happen if we assembled our most fervent racist UK groups and sent them to Middle Eastern countries with an olive branch between their teeth. Censored Clue: They'd be turned away

Realistic Clue: They'd be fucking imprisoned or killed promptly

Bradford

 

[steveh35]

Well, I disagree on blaming the religion - it's the mentality of a religious fundamentalist. Nearly all terror attacks in the States have been made by white Bible thumping Christians.

Why do people say "i disagree with blaming religion" for goodness sake think of terror attacks in history how many have a religious nature and because religions are protected by human rights no one can say anything.

Let's stop pandering to religion and admit that most of the world's problems have a religious element whether it's terror attacks or child abuse or the IRA etc.

 

[geordiecolin]

Well, I disagree on blaming the religion - it's the mentality of a religious fundamentalist. Nearly all terror attacks in the States have been made by white Bible thumping Christians.

Mental issness is behind most individual or co attrocities. They just pin themselves or are pinned to one cause or another due to their own mental illness or a reason for their actions.

 

[Playford7]

Well, I disagree on blaming the religion - it's the mentality of a religious fundamentalist. Nearly all terror attacks in the States have been made by white Bible thumping Christians.

In America the Muslim population is 1.1%, just wait until the numbers grow, like Canada.
Also the Florida shooter was Muslim and supported isis. Was that not the biggest mass killing in us history by a lone gunman?
No maga supporter even comes close.
The figures and stats that are also easily debunked as lone wolf attacks are classed as the biggest threat, religion or motivation wasn’t mentioned.
But guess what... the biggest lone wolf killers have turned out to be sympathetic to Islam.

 

[steveh35]

Mental issness is behind most individual or co attrocities. They just pin themselves or are pinned to one cause or another due to their own mental illness or a reason for their actions.

It has nothing to do with mental illness it is religion and people being brainwashed into believing our God does this and no OUR God does this, no allah says this or the Pope says this.

People blindly following these centuries old religion and still believing everything that is in this book or that book.

 

[paul7388]

It has nothing to do with mental illness it is religion and people being brainwashed into believing our God does this and no OUR God does this, no allah says this or the Pope says this.

People blindly following these centuries old religion and still believing everything that is in this book or that book.

You will end up in Hell for not believing.

 

[geordiecolin]

It has nothing to do with mental illness it is religion and people being brainwashed into believing our God does this and no OUR God does this, no allah says this or the Pope says this.

People blindly following these centuries old religion and still believing everything that is in this book or that book.

I would reply if I could make sense of what you have posted

 

[steveh35]

You will end up in Hell for not believing.

I live in Doncaster I doubt it will be much different.

 

[Borgie]

You will end up in Hell for not believing.

If he doesnt believe hell doesn't exist lol. He will have to go in the CM pit instead

 

[Playford7]

You will end up in Hell for not believing.

We have a real heathen in our midst

 

[goatwack]

One has to query why Islamists in particular seem to be the ones carrying out successive attacks. It may well be that they take tenets of a religious doctrine and act out accordingly. Yet why always hubs of Western society?

Could it pertain to Islam reviling everything Christians and Westerners stand for? To ignore elements of the reason for their ideological hate really is 'burying head in the sand' time.

Difference being that the law-abiding, integrated ones don't commit said atrocities, but will by and large, when it comes to choosing their faith and 'other', ALWAYS choose Islam before all else.

But as for the truly lost nutjobs that actually do go on to kill, hardened recruiters will sniff them out like sharks from everyday society. Notably the loners, disaffected, angry etc and just add their very own KFC recipe to complete the job

 

[geordiecolin]

One has to query why Islamists in particular seem to be the ones carrying out successive attacks. It may well be that they take tenets of a religious doctrine and act out accordingly. Yet why always hubs of Western society?

Could it pertain to Islam reviling everything Christians and Westerners stand for? To ignore elements of the reason for their ideological hate really is 'burying head in the sand' time.

Difference being that the law-abiding, integrated ones don't commit said atrocities, but will by and large, when it comes to choosing their faith and 'other', ALWAYS choose Islam before all else.

But as for the truly lost nutjobs that actually do go on to kill, hardened recruiters will sniff them out like sharks from everyday society. Notably the loners, disaffected, angry etc and just add their very own KFC recipe to complete the job

I am just posting in here as a reminder to reply tomorrow

 

[goatwack]

I am just posting in here as a reminder to reply tomorrow

I've bumped it for you

 

[geordiecolin]

Some other twat accused me of bumping too soon not long ago. I look forward to you being addressed in the same fashion that I was

 

[Playford7]

One has to query why Islamists in particular seem to be the ones carrying out successive attacks. It may well be that they take tenets of a religious doctrine and act out accordingly. Yet why always hubs of Western society?

Could it pertain to Islam reviling everything Christians and Westerners stand for? To ignore elements of the reason for their ideological hate really is 'burying head in the sand' time.

Difference being that the law-abiding, integrated ones don't commit said atrocities, but will by and large, when it comes to choosing their faith and 'other', ALWAYS choose Islam before all else.

But as for the truly lost nutjobs that actually do go on to kill, hardened recruiters will sniff them out like sharks from everyday society. Notably the loners, disaffected, angry etc and just add their very own KFC recipe to complete the job

That’s the thing, many are 2nd and third generation immigrants. Born and bred here.
Nothing at all to do with them being wronged.
They just sadly believe in a ‘religion’ that in its text condones this behaviour.
Also the Muslim who committed today’s latest act of cultural enrichment had 18 yes 18 cases of ‘Islamic’ terror offences behind him..
can’t be islam however..
I blame rosh

 

[goatwack]

Some other twat accused me of bumping too soon not long ago. I look forward to you being addressed in the same fashion that I was

I've pretty much had it all on here, by all means. Whatever thread you refer to

 

[geordiecolin]

That’s the thing, many are 2nd and third generation immigrants. Born and bred here.
Nothing at all to do with them being wronged.
They just sadly believe in a ‘religion’ that in its text condones this behaviour.
Also the Muslim who committed today’s latest act of cultural enrichment had 18 yes 18 cases of ‘Islamic’ terror offences behind him..
can’t be islam however..
I blame rosh

You ignore simple mental illness which can effect all. Can you not see that muslims have a reason to believe that they and their families have been hard done by over the past 20 years or more?

 

[Playford7]

You ignore simple mental illness which can effect all. Can you not see that muslims have a reason to believe that they and their families have been hard done by over the past 20 years or more?

So have nearly all of us in life col.
we don’t go out killing and maiming quoting our fav book as we do it though.
Muslims are not special or different or can’t be discussed, there is a reason they are not liked in the west, well infact many.
They are not above scrutiny.
Also not ignoring mental illness at all, especial in men as it’s our single biggest killer at age over 45, it’s a massive issue.
Let’s not devalue it by stating Muslims who kill for a book are mentally ill. They simply are not.

 

[dionysus]

Some other twat accused me of bumping too soon not long ago. I look forward to you being addressed in the same fashion that I was

gosh, that's terrible
do you need a lie down...a hug?

 

[ternur]

We have a real heathen in our midst

He's not the only one.

 

[goatwack]

It seems we have Webel Scum that need to be cwushed

 

[Playford7]

He's not the only one.

That hurts.. and was really cruel...

 

[goatwack]

So anyway, back to Islam

How doos it

 

[ternur]

That hurts.. and was really cruel...

Crap.

 

[goatwack]

Ternur has a few happy songs he can put on to lighten the m-

Ah bollocks what am I saying

 

[Playford7]

This isn’t no so called far right shill like katie Hopkins or tommy Robinson, he’s not in it for the donations or money. He’s bang on point however. RIP hitch

 

[ternur]

That hurts.. and was really cruel...

By KB is wonky. The earlier post left without permission.

What I tried to say, the heathen referred in my reply was of cource yours truly.

 

[Playford7]

Ternur has a few happy songs he can put on to lighten the m-

Ah bollocks what am I saying

Jesus don’t say that! His songs put me in a state of massive depression, I’m depressed enough lately lol

 

[ternur]

Ternur has a few happy songs he can put on to lighten the m-

Ah bollocks what am I saying

Jesus don’t say that! His songs put me in a state of massive depression, I’m depressed enough lately lol

Song requests you say?



You people get me wrong. I'm ray of sunshine, I really am.

 

[Playford7]

Song requests you say?



You people get me wrong. I'm ray of sunshine, I really am.

Go on then! Post a song on the listening thread!

 

[steveh35]

As I suspected:

Boris Johnson is facing a court battle over his bid to keep terrorists in prison by scrapping automatic early release.

Legal experts say emergency legislation being pushed through by the government will 'certainly' be challenged, as it would retrospectively change the terms of individuals who have already been sentenced.

People who have been sentenced or committed a crime previous to legislation change cannot be held in prison using the new legislation so Boris will have a hard time keeping prisoners in jail for longer and surprise it's the wealthy lawyers who once again are on the side of the criminals.