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New Slot Announcement Kingmaker Megaways from Big Time Gaming

jjqj1982 said:
i deposited 10e to have a look into this and spin no more than 60spins and bigger win was 1.6 x
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My stats show that it can take as much as 350x stake to trigger a single feature, (and I'm sure it'll manage worse than that), and once you start getting the multipliers up you want to make sure you can see it out to that feature, which you're effectively 'buying' as you're giving away RTP in the base game to get the multipliers up.

I would seriously recommend folks give this game a good kicking about in demo play mode before committing any real funds.
 
And for those who haven't seen the video, here are the stats.

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ChopleyIOM said:
I need to go through all the features (I Bandicamed every single feature) and put the stats together, combine them with the stats from Casumo, and from there the video will come together.

There's a pretty evil combination of mechanics going on with Kingmaker IMO, and surprise surprise they don't pan out well for the player.
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Id be really interested in how much of the rtp is allocated to the bonus on these megaway games - Bonanza included. As the egg timer effect on the balance seems to mean even with a big win you are still way behind the curve. Basically they appear lossy as fuck, even with a deceptively high overall rtp.

Compare this against a high variance game like reacctoonz, where the biggest multiple win is relatively easy to achieve and you will have something approaching your balance back but with a “reasonable” claw back/loss to the casino.

The megaways games just do not play like this.
 
SpinUk said:
Id be really interested in how much of the rtp is allocated to the bonus on these megaway games - Bonanza included. As the egg timer effect on the balance seems to mean even with a big win you are still way behind the curve. Basically they appear lossy as fuck, even with a deceptively high overall rtp.

Compare this against a high variance game like reacctoonz, where the biggest multiple win is relatively easy to achieve and you will have something approaching your balance back but with a “reasonable” claw back/loss to the casino.

The megaways games just do not play like this.
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If you track your play properly its actually very easy to see your base vs feature RTP Just track total wagers and total won via features and you can work out the rest from there. There is often more RTP in the base than you realize on some games.

As for reactoonz, that can absolutely destroy a balance and got thousands of spins without a hit big enough to recover your balance so if your doing that your doing well LOL clearly the game just hates me as i never had the big wins :(
 
Reelsoffun said:
If you track your play properly its actually very easy to see your base vs feature RTP Just track total wagers and total won via features and you can work out the rest from there. There is often more RTP in the base than you realize on some games.

As for reactoonz, that can absolutely destroy a balance and got thousands of spins without a hit big enough to recover your balance so if your doing that your doing well LOL clearly the game just hates me as i never had the big wins :(
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The big wins vs losses on that game are remarkably fair. You will not have as in chopleys case over a 1000x loss without a big rtp bounce. Not from hearsay, multiple times over multiple casinos.
 
SpinUk said:
The big wins vs losses on that game are remarkably fair. You will not have as in chopleys case over a 1000x loss without a big rtp bounce. Not from hearsay, multiple times over multiple casinos.
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Due to chops rounding the features this is only rough but here is the breakdown for the above session.....

11,466 games at 40p = £4586.40 Wagered
£600 loss = total won = £3986.40 ( 1556.40 + 2430 )

Won from features £1556.40 ( 33.94% )
Won from Base £2430 ( 52.98% )


But here we go again people comparing games to each other that are miles apart in terms of profile.

This game is basically one of the progressive feature type which any player can see as soon as they load it like many yggdrasil games for example and in those games your always sacrificing RTP for a later better feature the mechanic isnt new and is probably on par with holy diver if you want to compare it to something. :)

While people are still playing these "build up to feature mechanic games" providers are going to keep doing them, however like probably a lot of people I close them as soon as i see that's its that type of game.

By now any seasoned slot player will know what they are getting into playing a game like this. Just my views of course. :)
 
It was more a case of the vast amount of churn that happens in the megaways games, taking the rtp with it, without the bonuses along the way to compensate. If thats what you want from a game, i.e stretching yourself to a potential 5000x stake loss and beyond in the hope of an rtp return in the low 90s then yes, you are right - this is exactly the type of game to play.
 
sufferinsilence said:
Not only will there be RTP saved for the feature but also once you get into bigger multipliers your basegame RTP will go up.

Let's say your multipliers are x5 x6 x9 x7 for the gems, if you have a winning spin with any of those your wins will be higher than on spin 1 of your session with a gem win.
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Believe me, that really doesn't work out to anything meaningful in practice, and I speak from the bitter experience of losing 1500x stake in real money play!

There just aren't enough 5OAKs on the gems in the basegame for the multipliers to make themselves felt there. Apparently the game gets EV+ on the basegame when you get up to around a 30x multiplier, but as you can see from my stats, I didn't get to that multiplier once.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
I've got all the stats for my £600/40p spin buttfucking on this game and go through them in some detail in the video.

Should be finished off and uploaded for viewing this evening hopefully.
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Im putting a ton through this tonight on minimum bet just for shits and giggles. Ill report back my findings too, but not expecting much judging from the feedback so far.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
Believe me, that really doesn't work out to anything meaningful in practice, and I speak from the bitter experience of losing 1500x stake in real money play!

There just aren't enough 5OAKs on the gems in the basegame for the multipliers to make themselves felt there. Apparently the game gets EV+ on the basegame when you get up to around a 30x multiplier, but as you can see from my stats, I didn't get to that multiplier once.
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I think I said earlier in this thread I watched Supersmask stream a Kingmaker session and he was very lucky to hit alot in the basegame and when the bonus eventually triggered to get 200x stake too. He ran away with a decent chunk of cash.

As always, you have to be lucky and it's always a matter of that 1 spin.
 
Worst game ever. Forced to play a shit paying base game to build up your multiplier to a point where the base game finally pays. Eventually you get a bonus that kicks you in the balls, and have to start all over again with a base game that pays nothing. Spent 250x the stake to get 20x multiplier, then got the bonus and it paid 35x.

This slot is designed to keep you playing, and i'm not sure we want slots to go this way. Should be rules against slots like this one.
 
I have invested quite a bit on this slot after its release and the first bonus I got was a shocker after my money decreased so quickly.
What do you recon I will get from this?
Deposited £50 and I started with a x 15. No bonus trigered yet. But it is now up to x 36 and the base game has me up to £67.
I bet it does not end very well
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Up to 40x with £68 and 40 x. I bet it will end it will not end well.
In the long term I see it as a game that will have legs with those who like to play 50 spins on a game or those who want to complete their left balance.
Its not a game to seek a quick balance on for sure.
After this I will not be playing it again unless I am drawn to what I have stated above
 
adamtheaddict said:
Nice to see you post after so long, however, you'd better also be recording that incoming bonus!
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After getting to this point and playing out the
adamtheaddict said:
Nice to see you post after so long, however, you'd better also be recording that incoming bonus!
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bonus round I am still at about 87% rtp. It was fun but I will not play this again after this
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That exclusive deal is the perfect way to make sure most players will never touch a game.
After all the hype of a new release we are forced to wait and watch others say how awful it is. The perfect "cool off" period to make you lose interest.

Luckily for BTG this is an ingenious idea, make the base game and the bonus better the longer you wait.
No matter the negative posts, I had to try it (fun play).

Turns out there is 50% chance to be up after a few thousands of spins. A 200x win not hard to get at any point.
Not easy to get those high multipliers or >1000x wins but playtime looks guaranteed with this.

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nikantw said:
That exclusive deal is the perfect way to make sure most players will never touch a game.
After all the hype of a new release we are forced to wait and watch others say how awful it is. The perfect "cool off" period to make you lose interest.

Luckily for BTG this is an ingenious idea, make the base game and the bonus better the longer you wait.
No matter the negative posts, I had to try it (fun play).

Turns out there is 50% chance to be up after a few thousands of spins. A 200x win not hard to get at any point.
Not easy to get those high multipliers or >1000x wins but playtime looks guaranteed with this.

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I feel like my run could have been alot better, but i still think im gonna leave it alone.
Even when i was around 25-30x on the multiplier, the basegame just kept chewing away at my balance.
You really need the purples to hit a couple times for the basegame to deliver.
 
So carried on this morning and it finally caved at just under 1000 spins and an.actually impressive 35x multiplier. Was it worth it

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No, not really. Lucky to end up less than 200x down after my reload I guess.
 

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