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So i will be taking the £100 match for a total of £200 when some money clears tonight. with a total 10x bonus wagering im confident i will make a withdrawal. my plan is to play WOZ slot at a very sensible 30p spins, yes it might take 5 hours to complete but in the early hours of tomorrow morning i expect to be making a withdrawal of at least my deposit :) good old jackpotparty with they're low wagering yippeeeee
 
im not sure that you can lose on such low stakes? the maths says you will allways make a profit. I mean if it was 20x bonus then yes i would understand surely 9 times out of ten you will profit with these wagering requirements?

Assuming you got the advertised 92% then you would be guaranteed to win on this bonus, yes. You can't guarantee that over a single session though - even betting low a bad run on WMS slots can wipe out your balance pretty quickly.

It's still one of the best bonuses around. I take it for the full amount every month.
 
Deposited £100 last night and withdrew £375. Always played the second lowest stake on each slot, 30p to me isn't enough. If you get to more than 70% through the WR with at least £100 left give Super Jackpot Party a go, brilliant for wagering.
 
I just about got my money back, played the whole thing on Jumpin' Jalapeños at 50p spins, was looking like a bust but a couple of last BIG WINS saw me make wagering with £70 left.

Decamped to the Life of Luxury slots at £2.40p per spin for a bit of a death or glory attempt, and actually managed to land a LUX feature. Hit two ruby progressives to make a £71 bonus round which took my balance to £123.

Played down to £103 on Bruce on 30p spins, which was money back.

Could have been worse I suppose, so no complaints. Those games can really suck on 92% RTP when you're not hitting a JPP though. (I've now gone over 25,000 spins without even a 0-star JPP.)

My 'normal' WMS slots play is at Unibet now, Jackpot Party will just be bonus play I'm afraid.
 
I just about got my money back, played the whole thing on Jumpin' Jalapeños at 50p spins, was looking like a bust but a couple of last BIG WINS saw me make wagering with £70 left.

Decamped to the Life of Luxury slots at £2.40p per spin for a bit of a death or glory attempt, and actually managed to land a LUX feature. Hit two ruby progressives to make a £71 bonus round which took my balance to £123.

Played down to £103 on Bruce on 30p spins, which was money back.

Could have been worse I suppose, so no complaints. Those games can really suck on 92% RTP when you're not hitting a JPP though. (I've now gone over 25,000 spins without even a 0-star JPP.)

My 'normal' WMS slots play is at Unibet now, Jackpot Party will just be bonus play I'm afraid.

Chops could you or someone else just show in really basic maths why a £100 bonus at 10x wr on 92% rtp slots guarantees a win overall? I did make bonus yesterday but wondered how the maths work.
 
Chops could you or someone else just show in really basic maths why a £100 bonus at 10x wr on 92% rtp slots guarantees a win overall? I did make bonus yesterday but wondered how the maths work.

This is a very simple way of looking at it, and proper maths guys like Jufo get a bit cross because it doesn't take into account variance and suchlike, but it basically works and it's done well for me over the years.

Forgive the lazy copy and paste, but this is how I explained it to some folks over at another set of forums, this approach basically works on the assumption that each spin of the reels will cost us (the player) the house edge. So every spin at £1 on 95% slots will cost us 5p, which is the house edge.

Jackpot Party have a monthly 100% match offer to a maximum of £100, which they offer to all their members. (Bigger players get more frequent offers and more generous offers, but the 100% to £100 is a baseline match that everyone gets offered.)

This means you deposit £100, you get a £100 bonus match for a £200 bankroll, and it's on a 10xB wagering requirement which means that £1000 must be wagered in total before any withdrawal can be made.

A 10xB WR is extraordinarily low by industry standards, and is solidly EV+ (Expected Value) for the player. Most bonuses are 30xB WR, 20xB WR is considered 'generous' and 35xB, 40xB or even higher are not uncommon.

When you're working out whether or not a bonus is good value it's pretty easy to work out what you can expect to wager with your bankroll, by simply dividing the bankroll by the house edge expressed as a decimal.

Jackpot Party's slots all have a T-RTP (Theoretical Return To Player) of 95%, which means a house edge of 5%, so from our £200 bankroll we can deduce the following.

200 (bankroll) / 0.05 (house edge) = 4000, so on 'average luck' we'll wager £4000 before we bust out, but of course we don't want to bust out, what we really want to know is how much we'll have wagered when the bonus is expended, and what should be left to withdraw. So if we just halve the above figure, £100 (the bonus) should see us wager £2000 on average luck, which means we'll meet wagering whilst still playing with the 'free' bonus funds.

The wagering requirement is only £1000 however, and £50 of our bankroll should be enough to do that (50 / 0.05 = 1000), so in the simplest of terms, from our starting point of £200, we should finish wagering with £150 left, which is £50 more than we deposited. Basically, our expected result is to achieve the full wagering before the bonus is exhausted, leaving a profit.

Now obviously it isn't quite as straightforward as that, due to the natural variance of slots some sessions will deliver an RTP of far more than 95%, and some far less than 95%, but nothing can change the absolute fact that the offer is EV+, and given that random slots have no memory and do not plan ahead, as every spin of the reels in an independent random event, we can simply look as each month's session as being part of one far longer session.

The more spins we make, the more the overall results will gravitate towards that 95% RTP (in the same way that the distribution of heads and tails on a coin flip always normalises towards 50/50), and the more sure we can be that the fundamentally EV+ nature of the bonus will take effect.

There are some more complications. For example, we want to play as many spins as possible to get as close to T-RTP as possible, so small stakes are in order (spins of 50p or less, rather than £1 or £2 or £5 or whatever), in addition to this, some slots are far more volatile than others, despite having the same T-RTP, so we want to be steering clear of very high variance slots as these generally deliver far more peaks and troughs and take far longer to reach T-RTP.
 
This is a very simple way of looking at it, and proper maths guys like Jufo get a bit cross because it doesn't take into account variance and suchlike, but it basically works and it's done well for me over the years.

Forgive the lazy copy and paste, but this is how I explained it to some folks over at another set of forums, this approach basically works on the assumption that each spin of the reels will cost us (the player) the house edge. So every spin at £1 on 95% slots will cost us 5p, which is the house edge.

Cheers - makes sense now.
 
My 'normal' WMS slots play is at Unibet now, Jackpot Party will just be bonus play I'm afraid.

I second that. My average RTP at JP over the last 9 month is 73% - I've only deposited about 10 times though. I usually get 35%-80% RTP (but have gotten over 100% twice, which pulls the average up). Hit 1 star progressive today. Base game was only 43% though (playing 1700 spins on many different slots at 30-90p), so I was only able to withdraw 190 on a 100 deposit. Still - always happy when I'm able to withdraw money for a change.

Edit: I can see that my RTP for todays session is 43% - but this cant be right, or I would not have made WR. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.....
 
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