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It's done it again - Jungle Spirit

interlog said:
It is a vile slot. I refuse to play it for the exact reason that you mention.

And to think that the representative of Slot Tracker states that this is a good slot for wagering!!!
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I've spoken to him about that and I think way he's worked that out is flawed...
 
trancemonkey said:
I've spoken to him about that and I think way he's worked that out is flawed...
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Can you share why you think it's flawed?

And suppose you were trying to determine the best slot for wagering.....what do you think are the characteristics to look for? Highest RTP and lowest volatility seems like the obvious answer of which Jungle Spirit is neither.
 
slotter999 said:
Can you share why you think it's flawed?

And suppose you were trying to determine the best slot for wagering.....what do you think are the characteristics to look for? Highest RTP and lowest volatility seems like the obvious answer of which Jungle Spirit is neither.
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That's exactly what I said... I'm not at liberty to say how he has worked it out... If he wants to say so, that's up to him - but suffice to say it wasn't how I would have worked it out, and it is almost certainly should be a factor of high RTP and low volatility...

For example you could look at sessions of 100 games, and work out which game had the tightest range of balances after 100 games.
 
dogshead1 said:
Oh I'm sorry. Start balance £240.

Overall RTP 16%
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So you played 324 spins at 1.20? That's a total of £388.80 worth of play. If you started with 240, then you didn't have an RTP of 16%. Simple maths.
 
trancemonkey said:
So you played 324 spins at 1.20? That's a total of £388.80 worth of play. If you started with 240, then you didn't have an RTP of 16%. Simple maths.
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Really your mocking me for the maths. I do appologise but you really do need to get a life. My mistake and I stand corrected I worked it out at £1 a spin whilst I put a quick reply into another members reply. Like the .20 makes much difference here on the overall RTP................................38.2% to be precise. Oh and if at £1 a spin then the RTP would have been 25% my bad for rushing the reply. However still extremely poor to be honest as this is now becoming the norm for this slot.

Also to be honest you keep popping up on here making every effort to defend online casinos and the slots religiously and mock the players for their angered frustration instead of the piss poor value we are recieving as if your some sort of keyboard warrior who loves to troll such forums out of pure boredem and fun.

Just an observation :)
 
Wrong again, this is cringe. Why are you attacking Trance Monkey who actually does add some value to the forum for pointing out the obvious? What I think is worse is that you taking on one of Netents most volatile slots at £1.20 with such a pisspoor starting balance and then being shocked when you come a cropper.
 
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SpinUk said:
Wrong again, this is cringe. Why are you attacking Trance Monkey who actually does add some value to the forum for pointing out the obvious? What I think is worse is that you are attacking one of Netents most volatile slots at £1.20 with such a pisspoor starting balance and then being shocked when you come a cropper.
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Sorry pal but 200 spins is not a piss poor starting balance for any slot. Yes it's volatile but I'm highlighting that this slot is constantly producing extremely low RTP. I'm one of very few who have the bollocks to make my statement and defend it in this forum. As for attacking Trancemonkey don't make me laugh. He had be taking stabs at myself and others here who have witnessed enough poor returns over large sample sizes to suggest they are not running as they have been advertised. I'm merely defending myself for constantly being mocked by him!

Secondly I don't put my money in expecting to win I put a balance in expecting some fun. £240 gone in 15 mins is not fun and this to be a 9 out of 10 experience eveytime over larger balances and sample sizes it's becoming obvious it's a rip off!

I've been a gambler for life and the past 6 months months to a year Player return across the board has dipped massively.
 
dogshead1 said:
Really your mocking me for the maths. I do appologise but you really do need to get a life. My mistake and I stand corrected I worked it out at £1 a spin whilst I put a quick reply into another members reply. Like the .20 makes much difference here on the overall RTP................................38.2% to be precise. Oh and if at £1 a spin then the RTP would have been 25% my bad for rushing the reply. However still extremely poor to be honest as this is now becoming the norm for this slot.

Also to be honest you keep popping up on here making every effort to defend online casinos and the slots religiously and mock the players for their angered frustration instead of the piss poor value we are recieving as if your some sort of keyboard warrior who loves to troll such forums out of pure boredem and fun.

Just an observation :)
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Not sure I've mocked anyone ... Just point out when people are wrong and give a view from inside the industry. Obviously you don't want this and for some reason think I'm a troll - so I'll let you continue to get things wrong and will give no further input to anything you say whether it's right or wrong. You stated 16% when the RTP was more than double that. It's still not good by any stretch of the imagination but then that's the type of volatile game it is - like rhino. If you're going to pay a volatile game in the hope of winning big, you also have to expect some bad sessions. Although that is VERY bad.

I've not defended every slot or casino. And I never will. Some are shit and should be called out as such.

Btw - what is the point in having a forum of someone with a different point of view is just vilified as a troll or keyboard a warrior for putting things right or in to perspective. It's a very sad situation when people who disagree with you or share a different take on something you say, are then said to be mocking you. I guess you just don't like people who don't agree with your view on things.

Enjoy your slots dogshead1 - I'll go and get that life you talk about, making non rigged slots and maybe giving information to players who want it and appreciate insider info - I don't need the abuse from you :)
 
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dogshead1 said:
Sorry pal but 200 spins is not a piss poor starting balance for any slot. Yes it's volatile but I'm highlighting that this slot is constantly producing extremely low RTP. I'm one of very few who have the bollocks to make my statement and defend it in this forum. As for attacking Trancemonkey don't make me laugh. He had be taking stabs at myself and others here who have witnessed enough poor returns over large sample sizes to suggest they are not running as they have been advertised. I'm merely defending myself for constantly being mocked by him!

Secondly I don't put my money in expecting to win I put a balance in expecting some fun. £240 gone in 15 mins is not fun and this to be a 9 out of 10 experience eveytime over larger balances and sample sizes it's becoming obvious it's a rip off!

I've been a gambler for life and the past 6 months months to a year Player return across the board has dipped massively.
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It is obvious to me that you just want to vent of steam as your first reply to me before you edited it made it so.I had made a simple post pointing out that there where too few figures for us to make a considered judgement.I have your original post in my email notifications.
There is a fine line between "having the bollocks to make my statement and defend it" and defending it when it is flawed and instead of throwing accusations at fellow posters.
I think that your allowing emotion to dictate what you post here
 
Bear in the jungle? Why not lions....
Every 15th spin is winning...
Tried some dozen sessions...(free game i just once for real money) ...2 bonuses...
Risk to high for a jackpot way bellow IR, GOT, DOA...
243 base game => 1024 fs and expanding reels - taken form MG...(revenge for Jungle Jim or Phantom in/at the Opera?)
I tottaly dislike bonuses, they should all be equal, with same chances to win big...

Graphic and sound are good though and that's it....
 
After another deposit at VS went straight through, no play time, I made a small deposit on Slots Cafe £20 and thought I would give Jungle Spirit a shot at minimum bet, it was hot! Never ever have I experienced this before, I got my mere £20 deposit up to £240 just on Jungle Spirit before it decided it didn't want to play anymore - when it is cold, it gives nothing for countless spins. I moved onto Scruffy Duck, got my balance up to £350 and when my session started going downhill I withdrew £310 :)

Like you, I have had appalling stats on Jungle Spirit until last night but when it wants to pay, it really gives :)
 
greylady said:
After another deposit at VS went straight through, no play time, I made a small deposit on Slots Cafe £20 and thought I would give Jungle Spirit a shot at minimum bet, it was hot! Never ever have I experienced this before, I got my mere £20 deposit up to £240 just on Jungle Spirit before it decided it didn't want to play anymore - when it is cold, it gives nothing for countless spins. I moved onto Scruffy Duck, got my balance up to £350 and when my session started going downhill I withdrew £310 :)

Like you, I have had appalling stats on Jungle Spirit until last night but when it wants to pay, it really gives :)
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And that's exactly how volatile games behave. Lots of shit with some rare blockbuster wins. Well done :) Spend it wisely... Not in another slot ;)
 
trancemonkey said:
Not sure I've mocked anyone ... Just point out when people are wrong and give a view from inside the industry. Obviously you don't want this and for some reason think I'm a troll - so I'll let you continue to get things wrong and will give no further input to anything you say whether it's right or wrong. You stated 16% when the RTP was more than double that. It's still not good by any stretch of the imagination but then that's the type of volatile game it is - like rhino. If you're going to pay a volatile game in the hope of winning big, you also have to expect some bad sessions. Although that is VERY bad.

I've not defended every slot or casino. And I never will. Some are shit and should be called out as such.

Btw - what is the point in having a forum of someone with a different point of view is just vilified as a troll or keyboard a warrior for putting things right or in to perspective. It's a very sad situation when people who disagree with you or share a different take on something you say, are then said to be mocking you. I guess you just don't like people who don't agree with your view on things.

Enjoy your slots dogshead1 - I'll go and get that life you talk about, making non rigged slots and maybe giving information to players who want it and appreciate insider info - I don't need the abuse from you :)
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For someone who is right gets it wrong again. If you read my ALL of my actual post I'm not playing hoping to win big every time as you keep saying LMAO (still mocking) as you clearly ignore that I've stated many times it's running at shit piss poor levels on a consistent basis. Rhino does once in the blue moon and same for all other HV games but more often than not with theses you get a longer session with some intensity and fun before going bust. You get your monies worth so to speak. This is another reason why I have never foil hatted any other slot apart from Immortal Romance which is still a dog shit rip off as that game has turned real bad. Again it's not just me who highlighted this!
 
geordiecolin said:
It is obvious to me that you just want to vent of steam as your first reply to me before you edited it made it so.I had made a simple post pointing out that there where too few figures for us to make a considered judgement.I have your original post in my email notifications.
There is a fine line between "having the bollocks to make my statement and defend it" and defending it when it is flawed and instead of throwing accusations at fellow posters.
I think that your allowing emotion to dictate what you post here
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Erm no no and no!

And you quoting me from a message from slotuk?

Which has no relevance to your original message you refer too!
 
I must say this slot has never been middle of the road for me, neither too hot or too cold, until last night. Finally hit £1420+ on a £2 spin with the Elephants! Couldn't get a screenshot as I was playing via my mobile phone. :thumbsup:
 
trancemonkey said:
But why would you play a high variance slot at a bet it 1/100th of your balance? That's asking for trouble :(
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Would you ask me the same if I said ''I lost £20 on 20c bet''? :D
I guess he can afford it but it do sound a lot worse when it's such a high bet. The same goes for the OP because it wouldn't have felt so bad with doing 20c bet on a deposit of £47,50, and would probably never have started a thread because of it :)
 
Tirilej said:
Would you ask me the same if I said ''I lost £20 on 20c bet''? :D
I guess he can afford it but it do sound a lot worse when it's such a high bet. The same goes for the OP because it wouldn't have felt so bad with doing 20c bet on a deposit of £47,50, and would probably never have started a thread because of it :)
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Well no of course not as that's minimum bet... I also doubt you'd complain at losing 20 quid ;)
 
Tirilej said:
What I mean is that we react more just because it's a higher sum of money. We shouldn't do that since it maybe is the same value depending who's the player.
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A very good point... I guess we always associate larger sums of money as less affordable which is not always (but probably mostly is) less affordable as the sums get higher.

For what it's worth, I do tend to play at a stake of 1/100th of balance but I do drop down every 100 quid above 200 and every 50 under that...

So at 400 I bet 4 (nearest bet on or below)
At 300 I bet 3 (nearest bet on or below)
At 200 I bet nearest to 2.00
150 I bet nearest to 1.50
100 I bet nearest to 1.00
50 nearest to 50

Etc...
 
trancemonkey said:
A very good point... I guess we always associate larger sums of money as less affordable which is not always (but probably mostly is) less affordable as the sums get higher.

For what it's worth, I do tend to play at a stake of 1/100th of balance but I do drop down every 100 quid above 200 and every 50 under that...

So at 400 I bet 4 (nearest bet on or below)
At 300 I bet 3 (nearest bet on or below)
At 200 I bet nearest to 2.00
150 I bet nearest to 1.50
100 I bet nearest to 1.00
50 nearest to 50

Etc...
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That is the smart way of playing too IMO. I would advice people to not be scared of either play lower or higher bets for a while.
I rarily play over $1 bet and just as often just 20c. I'm still winning a lot, but when I lose it's not that much and I never feel the need to complain.
...or I can actually scream for a moment but I've never blamed a game for my stupidity to play :p
 
b3b44 said:
i just wanted to see if i can get lucky ....there is a possibility to hit something nice so thats why
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True ... Hope next time it works out for your
 
I've heard the '100th of your balance' theory touted before, and I agree whilst it's a smart way of playing it ain't much cop when the slots play like a dog's arse. Too often are the supposed 150 spins bonus rounds absent, and it takes about 300- 400 spins to trigger a lot of the 'big' titles.

We all tend to up bets with a larger balance, the problem is

a) getting there or

b) making the balance last

So with that in mind, it just boils down to slot selection, at the right time....nothing more :cool:
 
dogshead1 said:
Erm no no and no!

And you quoting me from a message from slotuk?

Which has no relevance to your original message you refer too!
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The above quote makes utterly no sense at all to me?

I refer to your original reply to me when I suggested that it would be helpful to know how much you had deposited. You posted that we could work out how much you deposited by reading the detail in your original post before editing it out.
 
geordiecolin said:
The above quote makes utterly no sense at all to me?

I refer to your original reply to me when I suggested that it would be helpful to know how much you had deposited. You posted that we could work out how much you deposited by reading the detail in your original post before editing it out.
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If thats what your refering too why quote the meassge from slotUK and not mention the original. And now your harping on about a message I edited out??? As I edited out for a reason.
 
dogshead1 said:
If thats what your refering too why quote the meassge from slotUK and not mention the original. And now your harping on about a message I edited out??? As I edited out for a reason.
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I have not visited SlotUK once in my life. I shall bow out here as it is obviously not worth engaging any more
 

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