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It's done it again - Jungle Spirit

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by dogshead1, Aug 12, 2017.

    Aug 12, 2017
  1. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

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    £1.20 stake, 324 spins and bust!!!!

    Am just getting truly mugged off or are others experiencing such extremely low RTP?
     
  2. Aug 12, 2017
  3. interlog

    interlog Senior Member MM webmeister

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    It is a vile slot. I refuse to play it for the exact reason that you mention.

    And to think that the representative of Slot Tracker states that this is a good slot for wagering!!!
     
  4. Aug 12, 2017
  5. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    I've spoken to him about that and I think way he's worked that out is flawed...
     
  6. Aug 12, 2017
  7. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    Can you share why you think it's flawed?

    And suppose you were trying to determine the best slot for wagering.....what do you think are the characteristics to look for? Highest RTP and lowest volatility seems like the obvious answer of which Jungle Spirit is neither.
     
  8. Aug 12, 2017
  9. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    That's exactly what I said... I'm not at liberty to say how he has worked it out... If he wants to say so, that's up to him - but suffice to say it wasn't how I would have worked it out, and it is almost certainly should be a factor of high RTP and low volatility...

    For example you could look at sessions of 100 games, and work out which game had the tightest range of balances after 100 games.
     
  10. Aug 12, 2017
  11. greylady

    greylady The more I learn, the less I know

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    It's a typical NetEnt slot, gives very little and then takes it back tenfold. I sometimes wonder if it is still possible to win with the five reels inclusive of expanding wilds as they sure are scarce.
     
  12. Aug 12, 2017
  13. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    Those stats could be pretty decent if you had deposited a a small amount but you do not state what you lost
     
  14. Aug 12, 2017
  15. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

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    Oh I'm sorry. Start balance £240.

    Overall RTP 16%
     
  16. Aug 12, 2017
  17. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    Bloody hell that's shockingly bad. I have never been up on that game so I give it a swerve now
     
  18. Aug 12, 2017
  19. Pulver

    Pulver Senior Member PABaccred webmeister

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    I always felt that Jungle Spirit was a high variance slot, so I can't imagine it being good for wagering.
     
  20. Aug 12, 2017
  21. tataru

    tataru Experienced Member

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    I never got into that slot.
    It looks really bad, and it's not really exiciting.
     
  22. Aug 12, 2017
  23. Yellowsamuel

    Yellowsamuel Full Member

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    The slot that won't let you get ahead.
    20X win followed by 20 dead spins
    every time.

    Best way to play it is give it 50-100 spins max
    hope for a big hit and leave.

    It is DEF not a good wagering slot, total balance drainer.
     
  24. Aug 12, 2017
  25. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    So you played 324 spins at 1.20? That's a total of £388.80 worth of play. If you started with 240, then you didn't have an RTP of 16%. Simple maths.
     
  26. Aug 13, 2017
  27. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

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    Really your mocking me for the maths. I do appologise but you really do need to get a life. My mistake and I stand corrected I worked it out at £1 a spin whilst I put a quick reply into another members reply. Like the .20 makes much difference here on the overall RTP................................38.2% to be precise. Oh and if at £1 a spin then the RTP would have been 25% my bad for rushing the reply. However still extremely poor to be honest as this is now becoming the norm for this slot.

    Also to be honest you keep popping up on here making every effort to defend online casinos and the slots religiously and mock the players for their angered frustration instead of the piss poor value we are recieving as if your some sort of keyboard warrior who loves to troll such forums out of pure boredem and fun.

    Just an observation :)
     
  28. Aug 13, 2017
  29. SpinUk

    SpinUk Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    Wrong again, this is cringe. Why are you attacking Trance Monkey who actually does add some value to the forum for pointing out the obvious? What I think is worse is that you taking on one of Netents most volatile slots at £1.20 with such a pisspoor starting balance and then being shocked when you come a cropper.
     
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  31. dogshead1

    dogshead1 Experienced Member PABnonaccred

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    Sorry pal but 200 spins is not a piss poor starting balance for any slot. Yes it's volatile but I'm highlighting that this slot is constantly producing extremely low RTP. I'm one of very few who have the bollocks to make my statement and defend it in this forum. As for attacking Trancemonkey don't make me laugh. He had be taking stabs at myself and others here who have witnessed enough poor returns over large sample sizes to suggest they are not running as they have been advertised. I'm merely defending myself for constantly being mocked by him!

    Secondly I don't put my money in expecting to win I put a balance in expecting some fun. £240 gone in 15 mins is not fun and this to be a 9 out of 10 experience eveytime over larger balances and sample sizes it's becoming obvious it's a rip off!

    I've been a gambler for life and the past 6 months months to a year Player return across the board has dipped massively.
     
  32. Aug 13, 2017
  33. trancemonkey

    trancemonkey Meister Member

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    Not sure I've mocked anyone ... Just point out when people are wrong and give a view from inside the industry. Obviously you don't want this and for some reason think I'm a troll - so I'll let you continue to get things wrong and will give no further input to anything you say whether it's right or wrong. You stated 16% when the RTP was more than double that. It's still not good by any stretch of the imagination but then that's the type of volatile game it is - like rhino. If you're going to pay a volatile game in the hope of winning big, you also have to expect some bad sessions. Although that is VERY bad.

    I've not defended every slot or casino. And I never will. Some are shit and should be called out as such.

    Btw - what is the point in having a forum of someone with a different point of view is just vilified as a troll or keyboard a warrior for putting things right or in to perspective. It's a very sad situation when people who disagree with you or share a different take on something you say, are then said to be mocking you. I guess you just don't like people who don't agree with your view on things.

    Enjoy your slots dogshead1 - I'll go and get that life you talk about, making non rigged slots and maybe giving information to players who want it and appreciate insider info - I don't need the abuse from you :)
     
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  35. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    It is obvious to me that you just want to vent of steam as your first reply to me before you edited it made it so.I had made a simple post pointing out that there where too few figures for us to make a considered judgement.I have your original post in my email notifications.
    There is a fine line between "having the bollocks to make my statement and defend it" and defending it when it is flawed and instead of throwing accusations at fellow posters.
    I think that your allowing emotion to dictate what you post here
     
  36. Aug 13, 2017
  37. gambyx7

    gambyx7 Senior Member

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    Bear in the jungle? Why not lions....
    Every 15th spin is winning...
    Tried some dozen sessions...(free game i just once for real money) ...2 bonuses...
    Risk to high for a jackpot way bellow IR, GOT, DOA...
    243 base game => 1024 fs and expanding reels - taken form MG...(revenge for Jungle Jim or Phantom in/at the Opera?)
    I tottaly dislike bonuses, they should all be equal, with same chances to win big...

    Graphic and sound are good though and that's it....
     
  38. Aug 13, 2017
  39. greylady

    greylady The more I learn, the less I know

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    After another deposit at VS went straight through, no play time, I made a small deposit on Slots Cafe £20 and thought I would give Jungle Spirit a shot at minimum bet, it was hot! Never ever have I experienced this before, I got my mere £20 deposit up to £240 just on Jungle Spirit before it decided it didn't want to play anymore - when it is cold, it gives nothing for countless spins. I moved onto Scruffy Duck, got my balance up to £350 and when my session started going downhill I withdrew £310 :)

    Like you, I have had appalling stats on Jungle Spirit until last night but when it wants to pay, it really gives :)
     

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