It is just not funny anymore..

[Alfran]

no withdrawals this year.

 

[rena35]

Cheers KK,you might be right there too allthough my experience with Sweet Harvest,a non 243 liner is also desastrous.
But I have played a few others too and got some decent hits on those.

And sometimes I take my gameplay to the edge,might have a 200-300€ profit and keep on playing.
The amount of times I could have cashed out and I didn't.
Might need to learn and settle for smaller wins and just cash out instead of chasing those 1000x hits indeed.

This is sometimes my problem 2. Chasing those dog gone big wins instead of taking my small win and being happy.

 

[007sam]

This weeks deposit goes to 32red. £50 match bonus. 30 minutes to play through at 30,60,90. Ir and playboy. Ir one bonus round fir nothing, playboy two bonus rounds one for £5 and other 4 mags for £10. Disappointed indeed, complete load garbage, no great screen max was £12, wild desire never triggered. Machines would not play anything over 30p, not the worse session, but is near....... Shocking Robbery..... These machines defo don't play how used too....

 

[De Beuker]

I've learned my lesson when it comes to MG's super high variance slots.
I only ever play Playboy at minimum bets, and even on 0.30 per spin it can vaporize a 100.- startingbalance in no time.
Just hit my first +1000 x bet on it yesterday, took hundreds of freespinrounds to get that.

I've played those 243 way slots at 0.60/0.90 for a while, the result was, on a bad night instead of losing 300.- I lost almost 1000.- and I cannot afford that.

So, back to my minimum stakes it was, and I'm honestly having much more fun now playing those games.

 

[Rugger00]

I found playing the 243 lines on the minimum much better to start off. You can really make $10 last for quite a while if you get alot of payback on Playboy or other slots. Not really worth it in my mind to start off higher if you see the machine is not starting off good.

 

[sapit222]

Im playing much less on IR & TS2 atm.
Was getting very hard to get any hits at all.
The last few times i got 3 wild desires soon after each other, but the highest win was x20 & the rest lower or nothing at all...

Ive tried Playboy & the other similar slot, but so far nothing much there at all.

Now im playing other slots & also try a bit at video poker.
Its working a bit better & i manage to withdraw some small sums now & then.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

How can you have 'rules' on random games? By that reasoning, why not 'ban' bonus rounds from giving over 100x stake?
There are no guarantees on bonus rounds, never have been except for payment for the triggering scatters (if applicable).

Well you can certainly have a 'minimum rule' on a pick-me bonus round, Enchanted Spins for example has a minimum pay of 15x stake for a three scatters trigger and is still entirely random.

 

[dunover]

Well you can certainly have a 'minimum rule' on a pick-me bonus round, Enchanted Spins for example has a minimum pay of 15x stake for a three scatters trigger and is still entirely random.

Well that's a totally different kettle of fish whereby you 'pick' from predetermined amounts, those amounts being permed in order to have a minimum amount. I'm talking SPINS.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well that's a totally different kettle of fish whereby you 'pick' from predetermined amounts, those amounts being permed in order to have a minimum amount. I'm talking SPINS.

But you didn't say that, you said 'how can you have 'rules' on random games'

Well, not so much rules I guess, as parameters.

The parameters are just different on random spins I suppose.

 

[dunover]

But you didn't say that, you said 'how can you have 'rules' on random games'

Well, not so much rules I guess, as parameters.

The parameters are just different on random spins I suppose.

Yes, because (unless you get the Bruce Lee-type rounds where there is a win guaranteed each spin on the 20) the free spins select usually from the same pool of values as the game, which includes many zero results. Effectively on your scenario the pool is unnaturally changed so 3 picks say must be equal to or greater than 15, i.e. all the values are positive.

 

[mrmark21]

I reduced my weekly limit at 32 Red yesterday from $50 to $30. My only account that I've still got at any casino is that one. So just in case I get bored I won't get more than $30 a week bored

I haven't played for the last four days whenever I get bored I just play some Plants vs Zombies 2 on my Nexus. That's where all my gambling (entertainment) money has been going recently towards these freemium games the Android shop keeps sprouting out. Whatever happened to buying a game and playing without "coins"?

 

[007sam]

I'm Out.....

That's it, £300 last night playboy & ir, no free spins on playboy two on ir one at x10 one at x50. Absolute tosh, no decent five in line wins and not a sniff at wild desires, I've tried playing differant places, same results, all account closed this morning, this just isn't fun anymore......

 

[dunover]

That's it, £300 last night playboy & ir, no free spins on playboy two on ir one at x10 one at x50. Absolute tosh, no decent five in line wins and not a sniff at wild desires, I've tried playing differant places, same results, all account closed this morning, this just isn't fun anymore......

I think people look at the big win photo's or 1000x + screenshots and psychologically their expectations are raised, and they have an optimism when they play which is not commensurate with the reality of random slots. Most sessions will raise you very little above the deposit amount at any point, and will grind your balance down by playing near the 95%-ish TRTP or less. People should remember that those slots, like you mention above, have a big-hit potential which is part of that 95% and when hit will give a massive spike in your session or overall RTP. As they are very rare, but still in the pool of results, on a normal session it will be quite usual to get 60-80% RTP and lose your deposit. At 60 you will have had an 'account-closing' poor run which ate your deposit quickly, at 80 you'd still lose but more slowly.
This comes down to 2 factors - your choice of game, and the variance thereof. On the slots you played, 9/10 you will have a mediocre session unless attaining one of the 'wonder spins'.

 

[gagamel]

What`s the motivation for gambling slots? To make money or for entertainment? I just play for entertainment and have a lot of fun with slots. If I depost 100 I play for 0.20 per spin. This gives me a long playtime and the chance of a good win. For example started sunday to play DoA with 50 €, 00.9 per sin. Made about 4500 spins and had 82 €. Then changed to 0.18 and played another 4000 spins and then I made a hit (x480) and now I have €155. Now I play with 0.18 and if I lose more than 20€ I stop. If I really want to gamble and want to catch a win in a short time I play BJ but never slots. That`s the way I play and I play for a long time. Sometimes there are also bad experiences for me (mostly with BJ), but I know that I play this game with high risk. But back to slots. I always play the way that my bankroll covers min. 250 spins, mostly 300 to 500. I tried a lot of times higher bets but busted in 9/10 times quick. A lot of players here claim that the slots are rigged or won`t pay after a big win. I think/know that the slots are random but there is also something like recurrence. If you just play 100 spins you can have a 20% RTP or 2000% with a big hit. If you win big with your first spin it is always in your brain (of course this lucky moment will come back to you next life) and there is always the hope to have a quick big hit again. A lot of players also lose and try to get their money back with higher bets, which also don`t work in most cases. The results are frustration and the feeling of a conspiracy occurs. And that`s not really entertaining. And I know what Î`m talking about, had a tin foil hat 20 years ago. We have to take online casinos like other entertainments. We can have a good time with it but we have to pay...How much depends on you
Greetings

 

[mrmark21]

What`s the motivation for gambling slots? To make money or for entertainment? I just play for entertainment and have a lot of fun with slots. If I depost 100 I play for 0.20 per spin. This gives me a long playtime and the chance of a good win. For example started sunday to play DoA with 50 €, 00.9 per sin. Made about 4500 spins and had 82 €. Then changed to 0.18 and played another 4000 spins and then I made a hit (x480) and now I have €155. Now I play with 0.18 and if I lose more than 20€ I stop. If I really want to gamble and want to catch a win in a short time I play BJ but never slots. That`s the way I play and I play for a long time. Sometimes there are also bad experiences for me (mostly with BJ), but I know that I play this game with high risk. But back to slots. I always play the way that my bankroll covers min. 250 spins, mostly 300 to 500. I tried a lot of times higher bets but busted in 9/10 times quick. A lot of players here claim that the slots are rigged or won`t pay after a big win. I think/know that the slots are random but there is also something like recurrence. If you just play 100 spins you can have a 20% RTP or 2000% with a big hit. If you win big with your first spin it is always in your brain (of course this lucky moment will come back to you next life) and there is always the hope to have a quick big hit again. A lot of players also lose and try to get their money back with higher bets, which also don`t work in most cases. The results are frustration and the feeling of a conspiracy occurs. And that`s not really entertaining. And I know what Î`m talking about, had a tin foil hat 20 years ago. We have to take online casinos like other entertainments. We can have a good time with it but we have to pay...How much depends on you
Greetings

I completely agree However I think the inability to win can negatively impact on the entertainment. When you can't win wheres the excitement? When you cant hit a feature where's the interval from repeatedly pressing the spin button? When you get dead spin after dead spin wheres the fun in that? That's why I stopped playing I wasn't having fun anymore.

I don't play high variance slots. I stick with low-medium variance slots (with the occasional spin on IR). I've never been a fan of Playboy, TS2, TFROL, or BDBA. The variance of the slots is not an issue it's that they don't payout (well at least to me anyway).

 

[243 lines=daft]

Originally Posted by gagamel
What`s the motivation for gambling slots? To make money or for entertainment?

The motivation for me has always been about trying to find an edge and make money rather than lose it.

 

[gagamel]

Originally Posted by gagamel
What`s the motivation for gambling slots? To make money or for entertainment?

The motivation for me has always been about trying to find an edge and make money rather than lose it.

And did you find a way? Please tell me. I never found the holy grail in the last 25 years.

 

[gagamel]

I completely agree However I think the inability to win can negatively impact on the entertainment. When you can't win wheres the excitement? When you cant hit a feature where's the interval from repeatedly pressing the spin button? When you get dead spin after dead spin wheres the fun in that? That's why I stopped playing I wasn't having fun anymore.

I don't play high variance slots. I stick with low-medium variance slots (with the occasional spin on IR). I've never been a fan of Playboy, TS2, TFROL, or BDBA. The variance of the slots is not an issue it's that they don't payout (well at least to me anyway).

Hello Mark
I know my english is not too good, but in my opinion you are like me 20 years ago. You are addicted in gambling. You write a lot of of things in this forum and all your topics and answers make sense. But in my opinion you think too much about gambling. Stop it if you see that you have no satisfaction with it. Maybe the 21 in your name is your age and then you have better things to do. Marry your girlfriend, have some kids and live prosper. I had a lot of chances to make some real money in my life and I took not all of them. But some chances I catched. I`m not rich today but I have no financial troubles. But gambling was not the best way to start my live. Just an advice from an old gambler.
Greetings

 

[09237653]

I see a recurring theme here, 243 ways:- playboy, IR, TS2.... dreadful games, give the impression of being low variance but in reality being insanely high variance.

Cant say I have seen anything decent on any of those in months, people come on here see the 8000X bet playboy screens and expect to get it themselves when really most of us will NEVER see these hits.
I was certainly rinsing playboy after seeing those screenshots, but don't recall ever getting much more than 10x bet on the bonus games.

Also had a fairly bad year but have been playing long enough to come to expect it.

Playing Georgie porgie and batman few days ago resulted in a 44% rtp, deposited £20 last night and was going to end happy cashing out £50, decided to have a few 30p spins on Bust the bank hitting £140 free spins and instead walking with £150 profit.

Funny how people never complain when they are running at 500% rtp

 

[mrmark21]

Hello Mark
I know my english is not too good, but in my opinion you are like me 20 years ago. You are addicted in gambling. You write a lot of of things in this forum and all your topics and answers make sense. But in my opinion you think too much about gambling. Stop it if you see that you have no satisfaction with it. Maybe the 21 in your name is your age and then you have better things to do. Marry your girlfriend, have some kids and live prosper. I had a lot of chances to make some real money in my life and I took not all of them. But some chances I catched. I`m not rich today but I have no financial troubles. But gambling was not the best way to start my live. Just an advice from an old gambler.
Greetings

I've already stopped playing. I'm out of there. Not everyone who gambles is addicted IMO gamblers are often labelled as addicts and I think that's a wrong judgement. Kinda like drinking just because some people cant handle their alcahol dosent mean no one can. The same could be said about allot of other past time activities.

I think gamblings perfectly okay for anyone over the legal age limit as long as it's done in moderation with their disposable income. I inherited a small fortune so I'm not that worried about losing (although no one likes to lose). I stopped because I couldnt see the entertainment value.

Kids are a PITA my friends have them. I'm single I prefer the single life some of my friends have gotten married but I dont understand why anybody would want to spend the rest of their life tied down to one person

 

[dunover]

I've already stopped playing. I'm out of there. Not everyone who gambles is addicted IMO gamblers are often labelled as addicts and I think that's a wrong judgement. Kinda like drinking just because some people cant handle their alcahol dosent mean no one can. The same could be said about allot of other past time activities.

I think gamblings perfectly okay for anyone over the legal age limit as long as it's done in moderation with their disposable income. I inherited a small fortune so I'm not that worried about losing (although no one likes to lose). I stopped because I couldnt see the entertainment value.

Kids are a PITA my friends have them. I'm single I prefer the single life some of my friends have gotten married but I dont understand why anybody would want to spend the rest of their life tied down to one person

You will one day. You just ain't met her yet.

 

[Gambulo]

Microgaming games arent paying that much this days, I played PLAYBOY yesterday too , for hours , No luck ! I got to the Last stage, and Dark Knight Rises too .
i played with $0.60 , Whenever that thing ring and say BIG WIN , Its just $9 or maximum of $12 in every 2 hours or so Doesn't seem to be what i expected

 

[carlisleboy]

For me Playboy has been really awful, I have never had a decent win at all from the dozen or so times I've played it and when I got the bonus, it paid me about 5 * stake.

But I have had good luck on some other 243 slots, such as IR and TSII and Burning Desire a few times. Also I've been up by £100 - £200 on Battlestar 3 or 4 times since it was released.

On the other hand, the Batman slot with the progressive, has been really bad.

On MG slots, I tend to find slots that I like and know I have a reasonable chance of being up on, such as Ho Ho Ho & Twister. I avoid stuff like Health Spa and definitely Playboy.

 

[mrmark21]

Microgaming games arent paying that much this days, I played PLAYBOY yesterday too , for hours , No luck ! I got to the Last stage, and Dark Knight Rises too .
i played with $0.60 , Whenever that thing ring and say BIG WIN , Its just $9 or maximum of $12 in every 2 hours or so Doesn't seem to be what i expected

I was going to spend $10 earlier to buy some coins (fake money) on the Jackpot Party android app and changed my mind at the last minute decided to deposit that same $10 with a match bonus on Halloweenies (low variance) had about four sets of free games on a 20c bet none of them returned more than $2. IMO the problem isnt the variance they are just tight.

If other peoples results were as bad as mine I dont think MG would have any depositors left. Must just be me. But I've quit plus ten bucks is nothing I was going to buy fake money lol. Now I would be stupid to deposit anymore than that with such a bad losing streak.

Do you only play MG? Before I stopped playing I had a bit of luck with $40-60 deposits on Rival. I always had decent luck with Playtech. Maybe a change of software is all that's needed.

 

[bruknowsbest]

So today I have suspended all my casino account for the next 3 months, I have not had good luck at all for the last few month, I do play MG a lot but I have also tried other software. Hoping taking the 3 month break will change my luck