It is just not funny anymore..

[lotusch]

Well guys,

Time to start a little rant to get it out of my system.
I am playing online now for a good few years with ups and downs,something that goes with gambling offcourse.
But the last year or so I seem to get bad beat after bad beat,a few exceptions left out where I did end up with some profit.
I find myself a pretty experienced player and know what to expect when gambling.

But the last couple of months it doesn't matter what casino I play,what slot I play,what stake I play.
I get beaten up so badly every time it is just not funny anymore.

I start to wonder,does it really still pay off to gamble online?

It seems the slots get tighter and tighter,big wins are scarcer then ever and no matter what software I play,the slots just don't live up to it at all anymore.

Todays session at a certain casino made me realise that throwing €600.00 out of the window in a space of less than 3 hours is not amusement anymore.
Don't get me wrong,I can afford it and I have a decent enough job but I have to work hard for my wages every month.
And if I would lose the €600.00 over the space of a few weeks I could live with that but to have a bankroll eaten away like this in less then 3 hours is beyond all my imagination.

I played Playboy and seriously I think I had 3 triggers of freespins on €1.20 bets on a €600.00 bankroll & all the small winnings in between.
Where is the average trigger in 150-200 spins in that?
I think mine were mostly 400-500 spins apart and the pays were to cry for.
1x I chose the 15 spins with expanding wild and 2x the 25 spins with wild night feature,I think best win was 20x bet or so.

I am so annoyed over this now as this is not an isolated incident anymore.

Had similar bad beats on again Playboy and also on Sweet Harvest,another monstrous MG slot.

Before online gaming I used to go to landbased casino's in Holland and Germany when living there and €600.00 would last me a full day,it seems online €600.00 is nothing as such a bankroll vanishes in a few hours or less.

And I think €1.20 bets are not scaringly high.

So yeah,I am thinking to hit the sack,throw the bone,say sayonara against online gaming.
As it is not worth it anymore.

I see a lot of these online casino's selling fata morgana's,make you believe you can win life changing amounts.
Well maybe for the lucky chosen ones,not for me.

I've had a few nice hits between 2-5k over the years but nothing lifechanging and those wins are so rare and scarce that I come to a point now that I might decide to leave this whole online gambling stuff.

I have no issues quiting whatsoever as I have no problems with gambling but I still feel I spend a bit too much on it lately,money that I could have put in my savingsaccount.
Might do that a few months,put my gambling bankroll in my savingsaccount.
I defo end up with more then spending it online on gambling.

Alas,there is great casino's out there with lovely staff running it and they are not to be blamed for losing,just to make that clear!

But online slots are not that exciting anymore for me,they start to annoy me and then it is time to cut the ropes.


Phew,well that gives a bit of relief now.

 

[Tirilej]

Okay, I've read it all and maybe a stupid thing to say, but I like hearing some people complain that usually are the optimistic ones

Sounds like a good idea to take a break for a while but what will you do instead? Exercise

 

[lotusch]

Hahaha,plenty of other things to do don't worry!
And again,this is not a rant against any casino as I play only at a few as they are all awesome towards me as a customer.
I name Guts,Quasargaming and Betat as they are the usual places I go for my entertainment,awesome CS and very nice people running the show.
It is not their fault,they can't make me win or lose,only the slot can decide that for me.

And as the slots are not nice to me lately I might take a wee break or maybe I need to change my play style a bit.
Also I am thinking of changing the slots I play as I tend to keep playing the same slots over and over again.
And there is so many slots out there that I havent given a decent try yet.

So we will see.

As said,rant over now,I just wanted to get it out of my system!

 

[nisosbar]

I know exactly what you mean. Take a break - it will do wonders for your perspective, on why people gamble in the first place, gambling's time/place, where it fits into your daily life, etc.

It can be an easy decision to decide to increase your budget for this, when in fact, what you need to do is take a break. Good luck, whatever you do.

 

[dunover]

Gambler's remorse, a classic case. You've spunked 600 euros in 3 hours. A 'pleasure' that cost you 200 per hour. So, if you'd played for 10 hours on the 600 and lost getting the same result, would you be any happier? Would you be on here proclaiming "Guess what folks! I just lost 600 euros but it was brilliant as it lasted 10 hours..."
No.
You've picked a high-variance game for a start, probably dreaming of one of those 1000X plus hits. They are very rare. The thing is, you know as soon as the annoyance has worn off, you'll be a back in the next few days.
As for the slots becoming 'tighter' this is just the losing player's typical response. They are random and don't get 'tighter' or 'looser' but simply play on either an upward or downward curve over or under the TRTP line. No interference, just bad luck. I've had an awful 5 months, my worst ever. Like you wherever and whenever I play, I lose. But I spend less than 100 a month, just the odd 10 or 20 once a week. 600 is a serious amount, whether you earn good money or not.

 

[bruknowsbest]

I stated this on other Thread as well, I have found my luck to be very bad during the last few months, I really like playing Thunderstruck 2 and I have had some grate win on this game in the past but last few month no luck on TS or IR. My last game (this morning) I played around 700 spins and no bonus. Therefore I have also decided to take a break and have Self-exclusioned for 3 month on all 5 site I play at

 

[casino2live]

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[bigjohn]

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Not a good idea to be spamming the board on you first post. Or any post for that matter.

 

[dunover]

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[007sam]

It's not fun anymore, used have good play for entertainment purposes but don't even get that on £50 now. Bonus rounds rare on playboy and ir for me and when they come is x10, if that. Low rolling is no good either for a play, few months ago I played £50 & £50 bonus and got to the final feature on ir, now I have couple casinos where I have not got past the first after like 4 weeks playing. Friday I started a spring clean of such accounts......

 

[tinybettor]

I can totally relate to your experience OP. I have only being playing online for a couple of years and in that time have only gotten a handful of over 1000x bet hits. When I hit them I couldn't believe it, but the thing was I didn't take into account the thousands put in to get that win playing nearly everyday. I am now currently on a real break as two weeks ago I played IR for 850+ spins without bonus, eating my weekly deposit. Then previous week played Playboy ~700 spins before getting a piss-poor 20x bet.

Each of these sessions I could not get past my initial balance and I just had this awful feeling after the first 100 dead spins the session was going to be crap no matter what. Fast forward 20 mins later and the result was as just as I had expected. Constantly getting sessions between 50-80% RTP when factoring in a modest bankroll that lasts 15 minutes is just really frustrating to say the least. When it occurs for a few months in a row the only thing you can do really is take a break and spend the money on other worthwhile things, otherwise you'd just be driving yourself to insanity.

I know its all just bad luck but come on its not like I"m putting in a tenner here and there, these are several meaty deposits every week with no more than $1 bet . I'm not asking for a jackpot!, just want to reaffirm the saying "you win some you lose some" (even win a few, lose most would be ok), otherwise what incentive is there to playing? Sorry for the little rant, just hasn't been a good year.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I think folks really need to get their heads around just how insane the variance is on MG's recent output, the likes of Playboy are pretty mental, you're getting into the realms of 'semi-progressives' with those full screens of wilds. Catch a slot like that on a dry patch and it will simply destroy you time and time again.

If you want a better chance for decent playtime but still have the chance to hit a decent win, you're far better off with WMS or 3Dice slots IMO, obviously don't bother with NetEnt's recent junk since they're just grinding bankroll destroyers.

 

[lotusch]

Gambler's remorse, a classic case. You've spunked 600 euros in 3 hours. A 'pleasure' that cost you 200 per hour. So, if you'd played for 10 hours on the 600 and lost getting the same result, would you be any happier? Would you be on here proclaiming "Guess what folks! I just lost 600 euros but it was brilliant as it lasted 10 hours..."
No.
You've picked a high-variance game for a start, probably dreaming of one of those 1000X plus hits. They are very rare. The thing is, you know as soon as the annoyance has worn off, you'll be a back in the next few days.
As for the slots becoming 'tighter' this is just the losing player's typical response. They are random and don't get 'tighter' or 'looser' but simply play on either an upward or downward curve over or under the TRTP line. No interference, just bad luck. I've had an awful 5 months, my worst ever. Like you wherever and whenever I play, I lose. But I spend less than 100 a month, just the odd 10 or 20 once a week. 600 is a serious amount, whether you earn good money or not.

Hey Dunover,

Thanks for your constructive comment on my post.
I do fully agree with what you say but I am the kind of guy that you would hardly see complain ever.
This was just a particular bad run and wanted to share this experience.

And yes I know Playboy is high variance but the free spins were so far in between it was just unreal.

That's all I wanted to point out really!

But thanks again for your reply.

Mark.

 

[dunover]

Hey Dunover,

Thanks for your constructive comment on my post.
I do fully agree with what you say but I am the kind of guy that you would hardly see complain ever.
This was just a particular bad run and wanted to share this experience.

And yes I know Playboy is high variance but the free spins were so far in between it was just unreal.

That's all I wanted to point out really!

But thanks again for your reply.

Mark.

Yeah, I share your frustration but I am so used to losing now that I don't even bother to whinge about it any more. Correspondingly I have dramatically reduced my stakes now. I actually deposited 10 at Virgin and withdrew 25 this week. I wouldn't usually w/d 25 but it was more psychological "Yes! I've actually won something." just to see something come back the other way to my bank....

 

[KasinoKing]

Also I am thinking of changing the slots I play as I tend to keep playing the same slots over and over again.
And there is so many slots out there that I havent given a decent try yet.

I honestly think this is the best idea for you. Those "big name" 243 ways MG slots are all high variance IMO. Try playing some of their older slots instead - those which have only 15 -25 win-lines. Not only will you likely get more play-time, you might be pleasantly surprised at the decent wins which are possible.

I can totally relate to your experience OP. I have only being playing online for a couple of years and in that time have only gotten a handful of over 1000x bet hits.

ONLY a handful???
I have been playing slots virtually daily since 2005 and only hit ONE win over bet x1000 (3Dice's Arctic Adventure last year).
Just looked through my MG screenshots and I've only hit 2 wins over bet x 500 since 2008!

I agree with the person who posted above - chasing a bet x1000 is almost as risky as chasing a progressive jackpot; 99 times from a 100 your session will be a losing one.

KK

 

[lotusch]

Cheers KK,you might be right there too allthough my experience with Sweet Harvest,a non 243 liner is also desastrous.
But I have played a few others too and got some decent hits on those.

And sometimes I take my gameplay to the edge,might have a 200-300€ profit and keep on playing.
The amount of times I could have cashed out and I didn't.
Might need to learn and settle for smaller wins and just cash out instead of chasing those 1000x hits indeed.

 

[Balthazar]

I think folks really need to get their heads around just how insane the variance is on MG's recent output, the likes of Playboy are pretty mental, you're getting into the realms of 'semi-progressives' with those full screens of wilds. Catch a slot like that on a dry patch and it will simply destroy you time and time again.

Playboy is an awesome slot as long as you play it "carefully" (for me it's no more than 700-800 spins per session). I can't think of any other slot that gave me more 300x+ wins than Playboy and I'd not be surprised if I didn't reach 20k spins on it yet (as opposed to probably 400k spins or more on IR alone).

I have been playing slots virtually daily since 2005 and only hit ONE win over bet x1000 (3Dice's Arctic Adventure last year).
Just looked through my MG screenshots and I've only hit 2 wins over bet x 500 since 2008

This is normal since it seems that you prefer to bet higher on lower variance slots than betting lower on higher variance slots.

 

[lotusch]

By the way the casino in this case gave me a nice comp.
So fair play to them!
And doing an afernoon session now at same casino and currently I am up about €200.00.

Tried Playboy again,as stubborn as I am and got 3 crappy expanding wild bonusses and decided to swap to the 25 spins wild night feature which paid me a nice 200x bet on a €0.90 spin.
Nothing to exciting yet but maybe maybe I can get away with something today.

 

[steveyboy]

leave the 243 liners alone i tried them and they were just like a money pit,i stick to 25 liners and i have good luck and bad luck but when you get a feature you can hit nice sometimes,i have five scatters in the features on supe it up and isis about 6times and all 5 isis once in ordinary play.i have hit feature on one spin so its all down to luck.

 

[bpb]

You should stop gambling.

 

[rayyanadi1993]

hello bro
am indonesian
sorry for my bad speak

i playing only in dafa casino but i loses total 5.000$
im lose everything in dafa casino
playing great blue
my credit 2.000$ but im lose all in 4hours

first i roll 120x 1.25$
and lose

and up 25$ on 200x roll
but i havent bonus feature

i cant hit them
and same with am playing gladiator
never never win!!!

anybody can help me

 

[bigjohn]

hello bro
am indonesian
sorry for my bad speak

i playing only in dafa casino but i loses total 5.000$
im lose everything in dafa casino
playing great blue
my credit 2.000$ but im lose all in 4hours

first i roll 120x 1.25$
and lose

and up 25$ on 200x roll
but i havent bonus feature

i cant hit them
and same with am playing gladiator
never never win!!!

anybody can help me

1) I think you should help yourself. If you can't seem to win and it is causing you distress perhaps you should stop playing and save your money. If you gamble at "Dafa?' or anywhere else you will probably lose.

2) If you have a complaint about a specific casino you should start your own thread in the complaints section.

 

[mrmark21]

I self excluded myself from every casino a couple of days ago...

My sister had gone to the local earlier that day and was there for about four hours off the same $100 so later that night I ordered some Dominos and as a treat to myself deposited $100 that lasted me all of 20 minutes (my usual is $10). I just thought enough is enough. They can't pay so I won't play. I just got sick of losing. The same story on every deposit so over being ripped off at every casino. I haven't won anything decent in over 3 months.

I really don't understand these high RTPs on these online slots. I haven't seen a big difference between playing online or at the B&M. I'd take the pseudo-random slots at my local over online slots any day. The higher RTPs on these slots indicate that you should see better returns online. But I've done far better at my local over these last few months and their slots are set at 89-90%. IMO the poor returns negates the purpose of playing online in the first place.

I've never had a problem with gambling I was just playing whenever I got bored after a while all these small deposits really add up but more so when your not getting any decent returns. I'm just over the whole playing online slots thing. Maybe when Australia brings back online Aristocrat slots I might just have a mosey over but until then I'm playing at my local.

 

[silcnlayc]

Off topic but same results

I just wanted to share my recent (yesterday) visit to the landbased casino vs the online casinos. I spent $240 on one slot , and hit the bonus round only to win .90 cent (I was dumbfounded)!

The next slot wasn't so bad, I spent $70 dollars to hit absolutely ZILCH on the bonus round (Lady next to me said that should be against the rules when playing and hitting a bonus cause it is an absolute ripoff) I agreed....sound familiar? Yep..same things are happening online....amazing how a visit to a landbased casino can refresh ones memeory of how the games are similar..just thought I would share the perspective while it is fresh in my mind.

(Zilch wins SHOULD be against the rules) The bonus round is the goal in the scheme of things and a zero win should not ever happen IMO....that is like stealing by a casino with a promise of a prize as long as you keep playing, paying and spinning only to have none given...

.

 

[dunover]

I just wanted to share my recent (yesterday) visit to the landbased casino vs the online casinos. I spent $240 on one slot , and hit the bonus round only to win .90 cent (I was dumbfounded)!

The next slot wasn't so bad, I spent $70 dollars to hit absolutely ZILCH on the bonus round (Lady next to me said that should be against the rules when playing and hitting a bonus cause it is an absolute ripoff) I agreed....sound familiar? Yep..same things are happening online....amazing how a visit to a landbased casino can refresh ones memeory of how the games are similar..just thought I would share the perspective while it is fresh in my mind.

(Zilch wins SHOULD be against the rules) The bonus round is the goal in the scheme of things and a zero win should not ever happen IMO....that is like stealing by a casino with a promise of a prize as long as you keep playing, paying and spinning only to have none given...

.

How can you have 'rules' on random games? By that reasoning, why not 'ban' bonus rounds from giving over 100x stake?
There are no guarantees on bonus rounds, never have been except for payment for the triggering scatters (if applicable).