Is it possible a few casinos websites are run by the same people?

[m3h]

For example WINZ and BITSTARZ
is it possible that both casinos are run by the same people?

I seen the license for both casinos have exact same number or whatever it was
Seen that on a few other casinos as well

 

[justdoit]

Winz and Bitstars not the same ppl, but you have lot of companies they have different casinos names same owners, regarding to casino license on crypto casino they can rent their license from other license holder
https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...asy-time-of-it-after-all.100685/#post-1293036

 

[The Dude]

For example WINZ and BITSTARZ
is it possible that both casinos are run by the same people?

I seen the license for both casinos have exact same number or whatever it was
Seen that on a few other casinos as well

Nope - not the same. These casinos share licensing via their providers, but at the company level they are completely different outfits.

The only things that are shared are software platforms and licensing - the day to day business and ownership are separate.

 

[m3h]

So how come I got withdrawals from both casinos which came from the same bitcoin address?

edit: I mean from bitstarz and winz

next withdrawal from bitstarz came from different address, its like they realized they f****d up and they changed it
from winz it always come from that address which you can see on the pic

this cannot be explained, yet you guys sound so sure about them not being the same people. which also stinks.

and before you start saying Im lying or whatever, I have VIP status on both casinos and I put (lose) a lot of money in those.

 

[maxd]

...yet you guys sound so sure about them not being the same people. which also stinks. ...

Why is it necessary to start slagging us off because we happen to have a different view of this than you? It's like you're assuming we're trying to fool or con you in some way. And why would we do that? We're not by the way, though it seems you've already made up your mind that you know better.

I'm not up on the financial side of the business but if the two casinos were using the same payments processor would that not account for what you've seen? Just guessing. Either way that is an interesting discovery you've made.

- Max

 

[justdoit]

So how come I got withdrawals from both casinos which came from the same bitcoin address?

edit: I mean from bitstarz and winz
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next withdrawal from bitstarz came from different address, its like they realized they f****d up and they changed it
from winz it always come from that address which you can see on the pic

this cannot be explained, yet you guys sound so sure about them not being the same people. which also stinks.

and before you start saying Im lying or whatever, I have VIP status on both casinos and I put (lose) a lot of money in those.

lol that is your link from your wallet, is not bitzstarz or winz link

 

[The Dude]

So how come I got withdrawals from both casinos which came from the same bitcoin address?

edit: I mean from bitstarz and winz
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Did you ask them? (they both have very active representatives here)

next withdrawal from bitstarz came from different address, its like they realized they f****d up and they changed it
from winz it always come from that address which you can see on the pic

I don't know - isn't that screenshot showing your BTC address? You're making a massive assumption here. Realizing they effed up, how?

this cannot be explained, yet you guys sound so sure about them not being the same people. which also stinks.

and before you start saying Im lying or whatever, I have VIP status on both casinos and I put (lose) a lot of money in those.

It stinks, why? I was explaining what I know - and I am sure the casino reps can clear this up as well.

You are a VIP, so why didn't you use your status to make your inquiries AND THEN post the results. What you are doing here is posting assumptions - in an overly defensive manner I might say. I have run the forum for over 25 years, and it is rare that I will accuse anyone of lying here. I always give most members the benefit of the doubt - and undoubtedly that's what I am doing here.

 

[m3h]

lol that is your link from your wallet, is not bitzstarz or winz link

I know how my wallet works....

I wish that was my address....

btw I did not mean to attack anyone, sorry if it sounded like that. I just lost a bit of money recently and was kind of mad. But yeah, the thing Im showing here is real and I do not think this is the most 'fair play' strategy run by those people. Russians I believe.

I honestly would not be surprised if MOST casinos were run by the same people. That's exactly how mafia works. Or is money laundering, to be more specific. It's just my thoughts though, Im not accusing anyone of anything.

 

[m3h]

Although, shouldn't this be investigated more deeply? I mean, I'm sure there are certain rules for running the casino, and this seems -to me- like a potential breakage of the rule.

 

[Guntis]

I guess, the payer could be Softswiss. Both of these casinos run on this platform and, as far as i know, use CoinsPaid for crypto transactions.

 

[The Dude]

btw I did not mean to attack anyone, sorry if it sounded like that. I just lost a bit of money recently and was kind of mad. But yeah, the thing Im showing here is real and I do not think this is the most 'fair play' strategy run by those people. Russians I believe.

I honestly would not be surprised if MOST casinos were run by the same people. That's exactly how mafia works. Or is money laundering, to be more specific. It's just my thoughts though, Im not accusing anyone of anything.

You just did!

Again - have you asked the reps? If so, how did they explain it?

You are really being unfair here - throwing in digs like Russian mafia, or that Casinomeister (my website) is being underhanded or deceptive. That's not cool - and not a good way to introduce yourself to our community here.

 

[m3h]

You missed the ''It's just my thoughts though'' part.
And I have other reasons to believe Russians run bitstarz. I'm not saying they are Russian so they must be mafia, or anything like that. And certainly was not accusing anyone of anything so don't put any words in my mouth, please.
I'm not sure how things work exactly regarding the withdrawal btc address, so as I mentioned before, I was just assuming things which looked strange to me. And after reading some other peoples posts I believe I was not the only one who found this interesting.
I have not asked the reps, because this is pointless. Even if I was right, there's a reason why they would name the other casino differently, instead of like BITSTARZ2 if they wanted everybody to know.