Irresponsible streamers & affiliates?

[colinsunderland]

How profitable is it in real terms or is their older threads I can get a heads up on and not ask to many questions

depends how many customers you get.
£250 per CPA isn't unheard of if you are a large affiliate, nor is 40% rev share. 10000 players spending £10 a month would return around £25000-30000 on most 40% rev share deals.

 

[Davey86]

So That’s why I’m seeing bet sizes of more than £10€ Nearly every day from twitch you tube screenshots twitter

 

[interlog]

depends how many customers you get.
£250 per CPA isn't unheard of if you are a large affiliate, nor is 40% rev share. 10000 players spending £10 a month would return around £25000-30000 on most 40% rev share deals.

On the other hand with Rev Share of course, is you have 9 players each losing £100 so you're set to gain your percentage of £900 only for player number 10 to win £1,000 on the last day of the month to get f-ck all!!!

Well that seems to happen quite often with my very lucky players!

 

[colinsunderland]

On the other hand with Rev Share of course, is you have 9 players each losing £100 so you're set to gain your percentage of £900 only for player number 10 to win £1,000 on the last day of the month to get f-ck all!!!

Well that seems to happen quite often with my very lucky players!

Yes but you don't put 200 tips up a month, of which 198 lose, 1 wins at around 3/1 and the other at around 5/1, then once every few months get 'lucky' and get a 50/1 winner, which you quickly recover from by doubling the amount of tips for a couple of weeks, all which lose.

 

[Borgie]

Yes but you don't put 200 tips up a month, of which 198 lose, 1 wins at around 3/1 and the other at around 5/1, then once every few months get 'lucky' and get a 50/1 winner, which you quickly recover from by doubling the amount of tips for a couple of weeks, all which lose.

Is this a well known streamer ?

 

[colinsunderland]

Is this a well known streamer ?

that was footyaccums, and a few others doing the same/

 

[BillyGoldblum]

So That’s why I’m seeing bet sizes of more than £10€ Nearly every day from twitch you tube screenshots twitter

Just to shed some light on whats going on here for the people who are curious and dont know whats going on. Aside from some of these streamers using casino money, a lot of them use 300% deals with max cashout of 5x their deposit and lowered wager.

$100 deposit. $400 start. Max cashout allowed $400. So most of the streamers arent betting to gamble, they are raising their bets to entice viewers and action on their links. Why else are you doing 10 euro spins when you can only cashout $400?

Pretty funny last night i emailed a casino affy department, the person that responded accidentally included their discord channel and full name. Wanna know whats amazing? The discord channel was actually named closely to a stream channel i know. Even more amazing? i googled the persons name and it is the streamer. A streamer pretending to play with real money, meanwhile they are an employee of the casino with that casinos banners all over their channel. fakkin hell

My god, time for me to start streaming from the baking section to get away from these fuckin jokers.

Oh and cant forget about another beautiful offer last night from a casino!

 

[slotmaster]

I hate to say I told you so to casinos, but I told you so 3-5 years ago that streaming will bring them the customers and money and not 1 casino believed me nor wanted to do a deal originally. The only ones that showed support was Dan from Videoslots and bitstarz contacted me a little later on.

 

[Kroffe]

Surely streaming was in full swing already 3 years ago, no?
Feels like it was around that time i was watching rocknrolla stream.

 

[Borgie]

Surely streaming was in full swing already 3 years ago, no?
Feels like it was around that time i was watching rocknrolla stream.

Yea nickslots just hit the 4 year mark so it was defo in full swing 3 years ago

 

[slotmaster]

Surely streaming was in full swing already 3 years ago, no?
Feels like it was around that time i was watching rocknrolla stream.

Yes that was the start of the boom, There was already some like 5 years ago but not many and streaming was still not well known really except for video games of course and poker I think is what really brought it into the spotlight.

 

[Fredos386]

Well there are two types of streamers... fake money (most) and subsidized streamers which have special deals, cashback and such that reduce the cost of play to bare minimum if not none at all which means no big streamers is really "real" real money or not. They run 5-10-20e+ bets daily and behave like it cost them the same as betting 20 cents a spin. It wasn't hard for me to figure it was fake when i started simply because my father is a doctor/boss and makes hundreds of thousands a year and after income taxes and everything ,even him couldnt afford 5e spins even if he lived in a cave and had no other expense. Playing 40 cents bet everyday cost multiples thousands, sometimes 10k+ in a horrible year. Then take that number and multiply by 10.. 20.. no one streaming can afford that.

Doesn't think a rocket scientist to figure that the guy is running 5-10k balance everyday but have white paint on the walls with IKEA furniture wearing a t-shirt lol. I know multiple rich people and they are fancy and would never have IKEA or white paint on the walls lol. But anyway i read an article that was written a while back that said in the end if the viewers are enticed into overbetting expecting a RTP that they won't ever have (like the streamers) what will happen to these big streamers when the governements put an end on this (because it's illegal and it's only a matter of time before someone do something, advertising gambling showing a product different than what the customer have while acting like these big bets are affordable to all is criminal and completly illegal). When it happens these streamers will be in serious trouble because they are completly hooked to gambling and they are used to bets that they would need multi-millions bank account just to keep going for a few more years. What will happen to them... i guess karma.

p.s.: the affiliate earnings are not as much as some people think. The top streamers can get 5-10k a month and only maybe the 4-5 top streamers will make a bit more but then that's nothing more than 100-200k a year which is a good income but you have to pay taxes and all.. after their own expenses of their everyday life they don't have that much money left to pay for these bets, the casinos pay. They set the deals and how the streamer will win depending on the traffic they bring and the money the casino make. When the traffic is not high enough they cut deal or modify it... because they are the one paying for it. But even streaming is near it's end imo because the viewers, the community is mostly all the same people that area already signed up. A few newb here and there but not much really. On all streams it's all the same people in chat so there are limits to how many sign ups and deposits a streamer can get. Im just glad that i refused all the fake money deals casinos offered me... i don't play fun mode... i will definitly not stream it on top! lol

 

[Fredos386]

The thing with streamers that are subsidized "real money" is that even if their deals and promo make them lose only a fraction of what they should even if not just always winning at all .... it's still real money swinging so it makes the reactions more genuine when it rips or win. The streamers that run on fake money i spotted them all in a day or two... When the guy starts streaming slots and have the face of the monday morning at the office wanting to jump through the window.. it becomes obvious lol. When they swing months of income in a night and still smile and look like nothing matters... But nothing beat the people i know that been doing 20-40 cents bet for years and suddenly overnight they have 3-5k balance doing 5-10e bet lolol yaaa sure i want to see the lotto ticket please.

 

[Fredos386]

There are almost no more true legit streamers like me that just play without deals with their own funds. Everyone went bankrupt after the RTP nuke... When everyone is rip, everyone.. and the only people still running and winning are the streamers...

 

[Davey86]

Is @Playford7 making you post here under duress?

 

[goatwack]

I was gonna say, whoever thought it was a good idea to bump this thread to high heaven with Playford about!

But I'm pretty convinced Playford has at least 3 sock accounts here anyway. A ban to him is like a Sunday picnic

 

[paul7388]

Is @Playford7 making you post here under duress?

I saw this thread becoming active again right as Playford's ban got lifted.

Coincidence.... Maybe.

But as Mack would say it's a conspiracy

 

[Davey86]

wonder what playfords perspective of the whole thing would of been

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Well there are two types of streamers... fake money (most) and subsidized streamers which have special deals, cashback and such that reduce the cost of play to bare minimum if not none at all which means no big streamers is really "real" real money or not. They run 5-10-20e+ bets daily and behave like it cost them the same as betting 20 cents a spin. It wasn't hard for me to figure it was fake when i started simply because my father is a doctor/boss and makes hundreds of thousands a year and after income taxes and everything ,even him couldnt afford 5e spins even if he lived in a cave and had no other expense. Playing 40 cents bet everyday cost multiples thousands, sometimes 10k+ in a horrible year. Then take that number and multiply by 10.. 20.. no one streaming can afford that.

Doesn't think a rocket scientist to figure that the guy is running 5-10k balance everyday but have white paint on the walls with IKEA furniture wearing a t-shirt lol. I know multiple rich people and they are fancy and would never have IKEA or white paint on the walls lol. But anyway i read an article that was written a while back that said in the end if the viewers are enticed into overbetting expecting a RTP that they won't ever have (like the streamers) what will happen to these big streamers when the governements put an end on this (because it's illegal and it's only a matter of time before someone do something, advertising gambling showing a product different than what the customer have while acting like these big bets are affordable to all is criminal and completly illegal). When it happens these streamers will be in serious trouble because they are completly hooked to gambling and they are used to bets that they would need multi-millions bank account just to keep going for a few more years. What will happen to them... i guess karma.

p.s.: the affiliate earnings are not as much as some people think. The top streamers can get 5-10k a month and only maybe the 4-5 top streamers will make a bit more but then that's nothing more than 100-200k a year which is a good income but you have to pay taxes and all.. after their own expenses of their everyday life they don't have that much money left to pay for these bets, the casinos pay. They set the deals and how the streamer will win depending on the traffic they bring and the money the casino make. When the traffic is not high enough they cut deal or modify it... because they are the one paying for it. But even streaming is near it's end imo because the viewers, the community is mostly all the same people that area already signed up. A few newb here and there but not much really. On all streams it's all the same people in chat so there are limits to how many sign ups and deposits a streamer can get. Im just glad that i refused all the fake money deals casinos offered me... i don't play fun mode... i will definitly not stream it on top! lol

Never heard anything so stupid! Rich people don’t have white walls or go to ikea Hahahahahaha ok

 

[goatwack]

My walls are pretty white I must say. Egyptian Cotton to be exact

Though due to poverty they're more off-white now

 

[Davey86]

My walls are pretty white I must say. Egyptian Cotton to be exact

Though due to poverty they're more off-white now

Our walls at home are cream or poor off white

 

[goatwack]

Our walls at home are cream or poor off white

Welcome, fellow off-white waller

 

[ternur]

People still believe in walls?!

 

[goatwack]

Let's break down those walls of affliction guys

 

[Davey86]

Actually looking around the house I have 1 or 2 ikea self assembly pieces of furniture that did go with my poor white walls

 

[goatwack]

Actually looking around the house I have 1 or 2 ikea self assembly pieces of furniture that did go with my poor white walls

I sympathize

Remember though, it's never too late to change. A lick of paint and a trip to the skip and you will have already climbed a couple of notches in status

 

[Davey86]

I sympathize

Remember though, it's never too late to change. A lick of paint and a trip to the skip and you will have already climbed a couple of notches in status

Unfortunately due to the restrictions placed on my movements I will have to stick with my poor furniture and self assembly walls

 

[jumboshrimp]

I can't get rid of 25pins. I get 4 emails a day now. I think they came from here. No info anywhere.

 

[Kroffe]

Shelter at home AND PLAY!!!

Shout-out to The bandit for having the most irresponsible play possible on his youtube videos.

 

[myke35]

I can't get rid of 25pins. I get 4 emails a day now. I think they came from here. No info anywhere.View attachment 126673

Does Outlook web mail have a block/spammer list? If you're unable to unsubscribe I would add the domain to that.

 

[irish-ranger]

Shelter at home AND PLAY!!!

Shout-out to The bandit for having the most irresponsible play possible on his youtube videos.

I’ve just had a gander on u tube it seems they are all streaming full toke lately “you’d think 1/2 the world was confined to barracks”

 

[Bloatgoat]

RTP nuke. Thats something new, lol.

But yeah; this forum always had a tendency to go offtopic the moment someone posts a claim here somewhere. Lets just all keep in the illusion right.

I dont like online slotting either. Its just a pain in the ass knowing 7 out of 10 deposits #default loss.

 

[dionysus]

But yeah; this forum always had a tendency to go offtopic the moment someone posts a claim here somewhere. Lets just all keep in the illusion right.

you can freely make any claim here you;d like; just have the ability to back up said claim
otherwise, it;s merely a string of non-substantive suppostion which benefits noone

 

[ThomasMT]

Bloody hell did TheBandit just lose £75 GRAND in today's video!

 

[Kroffe]

Bloody hell did TheBandit just lose £75 GRAND in today's video!

Only 75 thousand?
Was this some sort of responsible gambling initiative by him then?

 

[Davey86]

Deposit of £50.000 was rejected by video slots so you build it upto over £70.000 and as a responsible gambler you spunk the lot

 

[irish-ranger]

Deposit of £50.000 was rejected by video slots so you build it upto over £70.000 and as a responsible gambler you spunk the lot

Well slap it up him for being such a dick it seems his mate rolla is jumping on the lock up ban wagon going from streaming once a month to every night now,there’s certainly no price among thefts with this lot now..

 

[Slottery]

I dont like online slotting either. Its just a pain in the ass knowing 7 out of 10 deposits #default loss.

Just to be curious, how many deposits from 10 should end up cashout and how much over deposit balance need get to do it, if depositing let's say £50 and balance get to £60, would that something to consider cashout?

When expected ROI is negative i would expect to lose my deposit as default and winning to be some sort exception.

 

[lewisnadasurf]

Deposit of £50.000 was rejected by video slots so you build it upto over £70.000 and as a responsible gambler you spunk the lot

I don’t really understand the hate with him. He’s obviously a rich bastard so is playing by his means. ‍

 

[rocknrollax]

@irish-ranger So because I'm back streaming and uploading I'm trying to cash in on this coronavirus, thats a pretty sick allegation! Obviously you know I have no affiliate links or website links on my youtube & just one link on my twitch, no giveaways, I don't mention any casino or talk about promos etc in any of my vids, I've been uploading vids before 95% of all the people doing it today and always had breaks as impossible to gamble everyday, I did a vid in December saying when I'd be back. So I'm interested in hearing your reasoning?

 

[irish-ranger]

@irish-ranger So because I'm back streaming and uploading I'm trying to cash in on this coronavirus, thats a pretty sick allegation! Obviously you know I have no affiliate links or website links on my youtube & just one link on my twitch, no giveaways, I don't mention any casino or talk about promos etc in any of my vids, I've been uploading vids before 95% of all the people doing it today and always had breaks as impossible to gamble everyday, I did a vid in December saying when I'd be back. So I'm interested in hearing your reasoning?

What’s sick about it?? read my post all I said was you went from streaming once a month to every night just as other streamers have went from once a day to twice a day at the same time the country is confined to their houses.
So my reasoning being is the above if your doing it with zero earnings and just for entertainment fair dues and I apologise if my post offends.

 

[Davey86]

@irish-ranger So because I'm back streaming and uploading I'm trying to cash in on this coronavirus, thats a pretty sick allegation! Obviously you know I have no affiliate links or website links on my youtube & just one link on my twitch, no giveaways, I don't mention any casino or talk about promos etc in any of my vids, I've been uploading vids before 95% of all the people doing it today and always had breaks as impossible to gamble everyday, I did a vid in December saying when I'd be back. So I'm interested in hearing your reasoning?

I don’t really understand the hate with him. He’s obviously a rich bastard so is playing by his means. ‍♂

Don’t have anything against him personally mate
Do whatever the hell you want with your own money! But you know aswell as I know videos on YouTube like this will just play into the UKGC’s hands and all the gambling charities regarding responsible gambling

 

[Kroffe]

Wait, you can summon rocknrolla with just a mention.

I like your choice of Rum.
Unless it has changed that is, been a while since i watched any streams.

 

[Spikie]

Wait, you can summon rocknrolla with just a mention.

Say it 3 times whilst looking in a mirror, he might stay around ...

Rocknrolla, Rocknrolla, Rocknrolla

 

[Kroffe]

Say it 3 times whilst looking in a mirror, he might stay around ...

Rocknrolla, Rocknrolla, Rocknrolla

Im not about to summon any people in these self-isolating times.
Unless it works with other names aswell..

Halle Berry Halle Berry Halle Berry

 

[paul7388]

Im not about to summon any people in these self-isolating times.
Unless it works with other names aswell..

Halle Berry Halle Berry Halle Berry

You called Bear.

 

[Kroffe]

You called Bear.

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You are not Halle Berry, you are Paul.
Nothing wrong with being Paul tho.

 

[flyerskyangle]

I don’t really understand the hate with him. He’s obviously a rich bastard so is playing by his means. ‍

I like his channel, but don’t know why he like playing BTG games always, low payout and take fu*king long time to get a bonus.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I don't watch many twitch streams anymore but used to sit and watch Paul (Rocknrolla) stream occasionally. Of all the streamers he seems like a decent guy and has never really plugged any affiliate links. He likes gambling and fair fucks to him

 

[Playford7]

It’s good to see Paul comment, top man props.
If people streaming where willing to be open and speak like he does then it would make a difference.
Would also be superb to see what his comments are about the other lot, unless it’s the usual ‘ we don’t talk about other streamers ‘
Which I doubt as this guy was always decent, as you all know on here my feelings about streaming and certain streamers I’ve never bad mouthed Paul.
Not here to make some inflammatory thread or use this as a agenda to slate others.
But you got a decent guy whom streams, it would be a pleasure if he would actually be active and maybe address some concerns.