Influx of spam from Rizk, Casumo, and Dunder casino

scarletmuse

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I noticed an influx of spam like these a while back on my email account-I have had the address for years and already had a lot of subscriptions/memberships/competition entries and associated spam connected to it so it was getting quite a pain to sift out the fake from the legit (being on ipad majority of the time, I never used the website/laptop version nor could really be too bothered to set up the settings to automatically weed out the crap-I dealt with reading and deleting them for a while but soon I was getting so many more into the 100s with each new login, it was such a pain to scroll through them all each day to assess for scams/russian brides or erection supplements and secretly hope that the subject line really might be a legit one for once-especially those with ridiculous notifications like "$549,787,000 has been sent to your bank account" HA!

I ended up transferring my 'proper' casino accounts to a new address that I set up-solely for my own ease of organisation and use it for those trusted sites I play at most/deposit with etc to avoid the 'spam-mageddon' and also to make it easier so that I wouldn't risk accidentally deleting the real offers from those sites for bonuses/freebies from those sites. Thankfully I have not had any of that spam junk emails/affiliate or otherwise since but having kept the other email account open, it's easy for me to spot the fakies-if I have transferred my 'serious' memberships to the new addy and it's there, then it's gotta be a scammy junk or otherwise it's a junky affiliate from some other site I left connected to that one...

I can't recall having had any from those mentioned up top in this thread in particular like Rizk/Casumo, and I haven't got any screenshots or anything, but wanted to add in case others had noticed similar: LeoVegas and Vera&John are two I can think of--I always had really legit looking spam emails for them with signup/deposit bonuses etc etc But also, given I sometimes used to sign up to so many things with that account like competitions, newsletters and so on I was never too bothered to look further into them-addresses/affiliates etc... Usually just hit the trash can on the majority of em... haha, maybe after having a nosey to see if it was legit or whether the offer was a really good deal LoL
 

spintee

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@spintee

I will check with an Affiliate what can be done. BTW did you unsubscribe?

I also had another since my last post,

No way am i unsubing so they have a running email, They already lie about there adresse, each email has a different one, Yet I have clicked on the ubsub link and all take me to the same page to put my email in, Eact same link /

.optout-xjql.net/o-dtdz-l44-b7a0c3833a874e1449512d632a79d06f

If possible I would like to know who the compalny / people are, As I am going to make an official complaint, As I know its the same idiots behind other emails,
 

CasumoAffiliates

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I also had another since my last post,

No way am i unsubing so they have a running email, They already lie about there adresse, each email has a different one, Yet I have clicked on the ubsub link and all take me to the same page to put my email in, Eact same link /

.optout-xjql.net/o-dtdz-l44-b7a0c3833a874e1449512d632a79d06f

If possible I would like to know who the compalny / people are, As I am going to make an official complaint, As I know its the same idiots behind other emails,

It should be fixed now, please contact me if you receive more of these.
 

spintee

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It should be fixed now, please contact me if you receive more of these.

I just had 2 in the last 10 minutes, Not from your site but about loans and a leovegas one, Of the same company, another different addressee at the bottom,

Both taking me to that unsub link, Its getting beyond a joke now, If you know who theses are than please let us know, There putting a bad name to companys
 

spintee

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@spintee please give me the Affiliate ID so I can check

the last 3

From: Confirmation Required <[email protected]>

.casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_2B1EDC89135C4A6492A5F4374E4849F4&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545


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From: Confirmation Required <[email protected]>

casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_7084C4C864B44C2CB5C468F89BAD420E&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545

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info @ subsume.ibilitybeauty.net

From: Casumo <[email protected]>


casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_EB3BACD9C2FC4DF0BDD6018E8660F077&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545


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colinsunderland

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OK I will get back to you soon. :cool:

exactly the same as the ones above

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Getting tons of spam from this affiliate, for various shit.

You say you have sorted them but you clearly haven't as some of the links from earlier in the thread are still working.
Close the affiliates account, redirect his links to a 404. Simple, and if they are caught before payment, if they register a new affiliate account, and it happens again, they will sharp stop if they know they aren't getting paid.

Well done on being the only rep to reply to the thread though, at least you are trying to do something :)
 

spintee

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It might seem they come on to help but thats about it, 2 weeks ago I was told I get back to you soon Well only thing I have heard is more spam coming in,

And your right, I am getting various shit from the sender / company, I know its only emails but I got all this shit stored and I am building up a case, If casumo will not spill the beans to us who is behind them than surely one of theses company's that are trying to stop the shit will be interested,

And casumo has to pay someone to them links, So they canot deny who is behind them

exactly the same as the ones above

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Getting tons of spam from this affiliate, for various shit.

You say you have sorted them but you clearly haven't as some of the links from earlier in the thread are still working.
Close the affiliates account, redirect his links to a 404. Simple, and if they are caught before payment, if they register a new affiliate account, and it happens again, they will sharp stop if they know they aren't getting paid.

Well done on being the only rep to reply to the thread though, at least you are trying to do something :)
 

colinsunderland

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It might seem they come on to help but thats about it, 2 weeks ago I was told I get back to you soon Well only thing I have heard is more spam coming in,

And your right, I am getting various shit from the sender / company, I know its only emails but I got all this shit stored and I am building up a case, If casumo will not spill the beans to us who is behind them than surely one of theses company's that are trying to stop the shit will be interested,

And casumo has to pay someone to them links, So they canot deny who is behind them

A casino sold these addresses too as the email I use is ONLY for casinos (well amazon too but sure they haven't sold them to shitty affiliates), it has never been put online anywhere apart from casino sign ups.

Casinos are responsible for their affiliates so it should be in their interests to stop the spam.

King casino is another the affiliate promotes, a lot!
 

vinylweatherman

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If the casino reps can't get a grip, maybe the ICO will. The ICO has already launched an investigation, and from their opening shot it's clear they can FORCE the affiliate programs to divulge the personal details of offending affiliates who send this to UK players.

Affiliate programs should be able to stop this dead, but they tend to do as little as possible, the "slap on the wrist" approach, but the affiliate still gets to keep the money they made from the spam, and often ignores the polite request to stop spamming.

The ICO on the other hand, can fine these affiliates up to £500,000 which for most is probably WORSE than having their account closed and payments confiscated.

Most of these spammers are big affiliates as they spam for numerous brands, and may well not care too much if they lose just one or two.

Whilst it seems the ICO is currently focussing on SMS spam, they will no doubt look into email spam in due course.
 

colinsunderland

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If the casino reps can't get a grip, maybe the ICO will. The ICO has already launched an investigation, and from their opening shot it's clear they can FORCE the affiliate programs to divulge the personal details of offending affiliates who send this to UK players.

Affiliate programs should be able to stop this dead, but they tend to do as little as possible, the "slap on the wrist" approach, but the affiliate still gets to keep the money they made from the spam, and often ignores the polite request to stop spamming.

The ICO on the other hand, can fine these affiliates up to £500,000 which for most is probably WORSE than having their account closed and payments confiscated.

Most of these spammers are big affiliates as they spam for numerous brands, and may well not care too much if they lose just one or two.

Whilst it seems the ICO is currently focussing on SMS spam, they will no doubt look into email spam in due course.

What they should do is fine the casino the £500k as well as the affiliate, as that way they might actually do something about it.
Good luck getting some guy in china to pay a fine to a uk body for spamming.
 

vinylweatherman

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What they should do is fine the casino the £500k as well as the affiliate, as that way they might actually do something about it.
Good luck getting some guy in china to pay a fine to a uk body for spamming.

That's the problem the ICO will have to face. In the end, they will realise that the viable solution is to go after the casinos that are spamming the UK market. This will at least make the otherwise reputable and UK licensed casinos take proper responsibility for the third parties they engage for marketing. It is one thing the ICO do understand, the current system is not fit for purpose because it's hard to define where responsibility lies when an affiliate is doing the spamming, and their aim is to prevent certain marketing structures from "falling between the cracks" in the current regulations.

If the ICO have any sense, they will realise that if they go after affiliates, the worst offenders are likely to be out of reach because they are knowingly breaking all the rules, and so will have made sure to be located in a safe jurisdiction well out of the reach of the ICO. Going after the casinos will place the responsibility on them to police their affiliates and other marketing contractors, and the threat of a £500,000 fine for failing to act would probably mean the end of the weak "slap on the wrist" approach to affiliates, or the even worse "turning a blind eye because they bring in substantial traffic".
 

colinsunderland

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Thats exactly right, maybe remove the license until the spam has been stopped, bet the casinos would shit themselves then and manage to stop it instantly.

At the moment they couldn't give a stuff about it, look at Casumo in this thread, all the right words, but takes a few minutes to close an affiliate account. Weeks later they are still spamming. The haven't closed the account because they are happy with the extra customers even though its spam, and legit affiliates are at a disadvantage. Just using Casumo as an example as they have been active in the thread, but by no means are the only ones to do the exact same thing.

Skybet have absolutely zero tolerance to spam, I've reported spam twice to them and within 15 minutes the links go to 404's. Thats how it should be done, and no reason why it shouldn't be by all casinos.

I forwarded the email to casumo before i saw this thread, wonder if I get a reply.
 

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exactly the same as the ones above

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Getting tons of spam from this affiliate, for various shit.

You say you have sorted them but you clearly haven't as some of the links from earlier in the thread are still working.
Close the affiliates account, redirect his links to a 404. Simple, and if they are caught before payment, if they register a new affiliate account, and it happens again, they will sharp stop if they know they aren't getting paid.

Well done on being the only rep to reply to the thread though, at least you are trying to do something :)

This is not the same affiliate as spintee's I will tell the Affiliate to remove the email from the list, just send me you address to PM.

For all reference we don't sell or give the email database to any of our Affiliates. They have their own sources and databases.

BTW spintee I thought that spam from the Affiliate stopped and I didn't get the notification that you are still getting the spam email.


For all: If you are getting the SPAM email from Affiliates, just send me the Affiliate ID and your username or email to DM so I can sort it out.

Thank you all for understanding.
 
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