How to win at Roulette

[BingoT]

My very first book on Gambling.

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[Nifty29]

I don't know horses but if it works for you I'm happy,I will never. Bet on something until I know it works.

I proofed the ZONE on paper for a whole year before I risked a penny on it. When you see a. Losing streak so Rare you really have something. Its not going to be easy changing brainwashed minds, but I'm in no hurry.

A few years down the line people will get That. And if I even Open one players mind I'm. Happy. Patience, I have it in abundance after lunch I'm going to update my state of play...

I'm surprised you don't know horses, given that there is copious amounts of their waste products all over your chin.....

You really should wear a bib and keep a shovel handy.

"He's not the record holder - he's the RECORD!!" - Randy Marsh, Zürich

 

[BingoT]

Oh My

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[Sentinel]

Eventually nifty you will stop the insults and learn how to win. A friend of mine said. It. Would be Easier to convince an aheist that there is A god, than a. Brainwashed maths head. That the game of roulette is. Indeed BEATABLE. Im up To. The Challenge...

 

[ksech]

This thread was "entertaining" until about page 8 when Sentinel started hitting below the belt with his nastiness. I don't play roulette, never have, and probably never will. That little ball going round and around makes me dizzy and I DON'T need help in that area.

Rouletteguy was patient enough to post his comments (and I think I'd take HIS advice before I'd even mildly contemplate yours). Da_Gambla has been MORE than patient with you, way more than you deserve. There has been alot of excellent advice for the newbie roulette player, just NOT yours. You've developed "tunnel-vision" and are accusing others of NOT reading and comprehending what YOU are saying. Perhaps you should follow your own advice and take off the blinders and READ what others are posting.

You owe an apology to every member on this forum for the almost "viscious" verbiage you are spewing. You could have kept this "polite" instead of turning it into a namecalling, temper tantrum. How old are you? 5? (oh wait, then you couldn't have been practicing this "system for 6, 11, 15 years(?))

You need to pack up your toys and go home. You haven't managed to convince even one member here...
Give it a rest...

@Sentinel, IF I was a newbie who was interested in learning the ropes of roulette, your posts are NOT written so the layperson can understand them. Perhaps you can keep that in mind when you are posting? Or, you can disregard that if your intentions are for the professionals only...

 

[BingoT]

I bet you can sell this and make more than a roulette type of system.
To me it's pure luck where that little ball falls.

After buy a pack & have a good smoke.
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[Sentinel]

Mmm just love the selective victim attitude. Kcheh you don't know what patience means. 5 days? I've set myself a FIVE YEAR timeline to get this done. And if you don't like my thread simply ignore me. I Told that to another member the other DAY But he just can't stay away.

You have a Choice...

 

[3mptyseat]

Mmm just love the selective victim attitude.Kcheh you don't know what patience means. 5 days? I've set myself a FIVE YEAR timeline to get this done.And if you don't like my thread simply ignore me Told that to another member the other DAY But he just can't stay away.

You have a. Choice...

Did it take many years of oxygen deprivation and intravenous narcotics to achieve such a level of ignorant obtuseness? Or was it congenital?

 

[ksech]

Selective victim attitude? What's that? As I stated, this thread was "entertaining" until YOU started being rude. Rest assured, YOU aren't worth my time or trouble to reply to this thread anymore. I have plenty of patience for those who DESERVE it. Obviously, YOU don't fall in that category.

 

[Sentinel]

The Zone state of play

Okay here is an update of results for the zone for friday the 28/01 through Saturday the 29/01

Session 1=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 2=16

GAME 1=1,1=WIN 1 POINT PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

Session 2=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 1=10

GAME 1=1,1,2,3=WIN 2 POINTS PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

Session 3=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 3=09

GAME 1=1=WIN 2 POINTS PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

CLOSING BANK FOR 28/01/2011=400 POINTS

Session 1=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 3=17

GAME 1=1,1,2=WIN 2 POINTS PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

Session 2=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 3=11

GAME 1=1=WIN 2 POINTS PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

Session 3=QUALIFYING GAME DOZEN 1=20

GAME 1=1,1,2,3=WIN 2 POINTS PROFIT, SESSION ENDED

CLOSING BANK FOR 29/01/2011=406 POINTS

Okay since suffering a double loss on session 2 on Thursday things have been running smoothly with a winning streak of 7 games in a row. The longest streak I have ever enjoyed is 18 in a row. And on rare occasion there can be back to back losses.

Where does my extreme confidence/arrogance come from regarding this METHOD. It comes from the following knowledge.

For every losing pattern like this (11,09,10,12,16)

There will be hundreds (often more than 500) like this (11)---(12,10)---------(09,13,12) less seldom this (11,10,18,09)

This is what I call a virtual limit. A losing streak so rarely breached, a winning method can be created to exploit it. Nothing you think you know about ROULETTE affects it. In fact zeros speed its turnover of betting frequency. Random numbers don't affect it because THERE IS NO BET SELECTION. Just the knowledge that FIVE LOSING GAMES IN A ROW IS RARE.

Added to this, the fact that I wait on one of these losing games before even starting. Means I enjoy instant winning games 80-90% Out of every 100 played. The average winning streak is 9 consecutive games.

 

[Sentinel]

Intelligence level

As of this moment I won't be responding to any rude, bullish posters. If you have INTELLIGENT worthwhile responses. You'll get a reply. I am not lowering myself to your level again. You have a choice, if you don't like or agree with my thread simply move on and ignore it. It is not for people with closed minds. Only people who want to learn new concepts.

 

[Da_Gambla]

dammit.. he's going to make so much freakin money with this system, that he's gonna flat out make Bryan an offer on CM he cannot refuse.. then we're all gonna get banned by Sentinel...

- Keith

 

[Seventh777]

Yeah horseracing now we're talking, and I can follow

Lets see, I can choose races with a certain starting method (harness racing/trotting that's why) and a certain distance, and choose number 5which I know has outstanding results in this type of race.
Then I'll just follow your advice and EVEN BETTER winners with number 5 are more likely to win at odds 10/1 or higher, with exception for them being favorites of course. Nice... now all I need is the unhealthy amount of cash, but I could start on a smaller scale. Thanks

Picking a certain number is to risky hun, what you have to work out here is by race 8 if you had not had a winner you are owed....

1). 1+
2). 2+
3). 4+
4). 8+
5). 16+
6). 32+
7). 64+
8). 128=
9). 255

Now the odds of hitting a favourite are way better than a certain number landing .

Today at Cheltenham was nearly ideal for this system with an average field of 10 runners, here`s how it went....

Race number......

1). Fav won at odds of 15/8, we`ll call it 2/1 (easier to work out lol) so, it`s £1 out and £3 back.

2). £1 again, you reset after a winner, fav did not win.

3). £2 bet, fav won at 9/2, a return of £11, it`s now £4 paid out, and £14 back.

4). £1, fav lost.

5). £2 fav lost.

6). £4 fav won at 2/1, a return of £12, that`s £11 paid out and a return of £26.

7). £1 fav lost, so £12 paid out, and an overall return of £26, a profit of £14 .

 

[3mptyseat]

@Sentinel:
Anyway I could get an email alert and an sms update on all of ur recent results?

 

[The Dude]

Admin note: a word of caution

I just wanted the OP to be aware of the following rule:

1.16 - Gambling Systems. For some reason, there are people who believe that the membership consists of morons. The members may be a lot of things, but stupid they ain't. If you attempt to sell a gambling "system", you will be publicly ridiculed and harassed until we're bored with you. You'll then be banished to Never Land where you can play with Tinker Bell and all the magical fairies. You'll be a happier person there.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/

Please do not exploit the forum. If it turns out you are pimping a system, you won't have an account here no mo'. Just a heads up. Thanks!

 

[Emmeline]

Picking a certain number is to risky hun, what you have to work out here is by race 8 if you had not had a winner you are owed....

1). 1+
2). 2+
3). 4+
4). 8+
5). 16+
6). 32+
7). 64+
8). 128=
9). 255

Now the odds of hitting a favourite are way better than a certain number landing .

Today at Cheltenham was nearly ideal for this system with an average field of 10 runners, here`s how it went....

Race number......

1). Fav won at odds of 15/8, we`ll call it 2/1 (easier to work out lol) so, it`s £1 out and £3 back.

2). £1 again, you reset after a winner, fav did not win.

3). £2 bet, fav won at 9/2, a return of £11, it`s now £4 paid out, and £14 back.

4). £1, fav lost.

5). £2 fav lost.

6). £4 fav won at 2/1, a return of £12, that`s £11 paid out and a return of £26.

7). £1 fav lost, so £12 paid out, and an overall return of £26, a profit of £14 .

Thanks I'm only familiar with harnessracing/trotting but I think (?) the starting positions are more important. I chose nr 5 in a certain type of race because if I look at the long-term statistics starting position 5 wins about 20% of the races with 12 participants, compared to the long-term statistics for favourites who win roughly 30% of the races, but long-term statistics and one racing day are sadly different things

 

[Quincel]

A few months ago one night I began testing the zone. I had some losses but by obeying the virtual limit I kept them to a minimum. Every day my bankroll grew until it doubled, and then doubled again, and then again.

But then I woke up

*Sigh*

 

[BingoT]

This thread is USDA Approved
This one should win an award for 2011.
Congrats to the Winner.

 

[Sentinel]

I just wanted the OP to be aware of the following rule:

1.16 - Gambling Systems. For some reason, there are people who believe that the membership consists of morons. The members may be a lot of things, but stupid they ain't. If you attempt to sell a gambling "system", you will be publicly ridiculed and harassed until we're bored with you. You'll then be banished to Never Land where you can play with Tinker Bell and all the magical fairies. You'll be a happier person there.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/

Please do not exploit the forum. If it turns out you are pimping a system, you won't have an account here no mo'. Just a heads up. Thanks!

If this is aimed at me Casinomeister, I am not selling anything. Just putting forward a new concept to be tested on paper. Or whatever method. To show Roulette is far from unbeatable.

 

[Seventh777]

Thanks I'm only familiar with harnessracing/trotting but I think (?) the starting positions are more important. I chose nr 5 in a certain type of race because if I look at the long-term statistics starting position 5 wins about 20% of the races with 12 participants, compared to the long-term statistics for favourites who win roughly 30% of the races, but long-term statistics and one racing day are sadly different things

Ah ha my dear, I have just perfected a system entirely for you, only bet on your races when number 5 is the favourite .

 

[BingoT]

Years ago my Father use to bring us to the horse races.
And he once told us if you ever see a horse take a good shit before the race to always bet on it.
8 out of 10 times that horse will win.
This also goes with the dogs too.
~T~

 

[Emmeline]

Years ago my Father use to bring us to the horse races.
And he once told us if you ever see a horse take a good shit before the race to always bet on it.
8 out of 10 times that horse will win.
This also goes with the dogs too.
~T~

oboy you crack me up man...a lot of horseshit here today eeh

 

[Emmeline]

Ah ha my dear, I have just perfected a system entirely for you, only bet on your races when number 5 is the favourite .

Years ago my Father use to bring us to the horse races.
And he once told us if you ever see a horse take a good shit before the race to always bet on it.
8 out of 10 times that horse will win.
This also goes with the dogs too.
~T~

I'm sure this will turn out to be the perfect system, just a few more tips.. :yahoo:
Or I will just watch out for the nr 5:s behinds...

 

[BingoT]

oboy you crack me up man...a lot of horseshit here today eeh

Well Thank You
And just remember that Horse Shit is good for your garden too.
No Hoof about it

 

[zaaaaabaaaaam]

Winning with martingale!!!11

We all know that Martingale is a losing system BUT if you would take into consideration that you NEVER stop before you see a winning bet. I mean hypothetical you could see 1000's of losing game rounds in sequence and this would make your bets to be of an astronomical size but still, as you do not quit until you have placed a winning bet you cannot lose. According to this argument I'd say martingale is a winning system. No?

 

[sweiger]

We all know that Martingale is a losing system BUT if you would take into consideration that you NEVER stop before you see a winning bet. I mean hypothetical you could see 1000's of losing game rounds in sequence and this would make your bets to be of an astronomical size but still, as you do not quit until you have placed a winning bet you cannot lose. According to this argument I'd say martingale is a winning system. No?

Right. The martingale system is the ONLY roulette system that works. But it ONLY works IF:

1) You have an unlimited bankroll
2) There's no house limit on wager size

@ Sentinel:

Please look up and define the word RANDOM, as other (more patient) members have suggested.

Once you know what it means, maybe you'll have another view on the infallibility of your strategy?

 

[Sentinel]

Sweiger as ive never seen you on here I'll briefly try to explain why random events have no bearing on the success failure of THE ZONE.

A, You aren't trying to predict a specific outcome like a straight number,red or black or even what spin the dozen will come to rest.That's what few are taking onboard.

B House edge literally has zero effect because when a zero hits it simply adds to the streak to qualify a game.

C, most importantly why the zone works is you already know there is a common virtual limit that rarely gets broken.

Until someone other than myself verifies this comes back and tells others no one will even start to believe it I do realize this. When enough people see the same thing all of a sudden everyone sees it.

I am saying test it before you knock it. If even one person can prove I'm lying you'll never see me on this forum again.




I only came back on here in the first place because I got emails constantly asking me where have I been. BUT, if people are really that jaded, and can't be bothered to at least test it on paper. Then I won't stay.

If I have to think like everyone else with a defeatest attitude to be accepted what is the point of a gambling forum?

 

[sweiger]

(...words...)
what is the point of a gambling forum?

IMO, well, one of the points of a gambling forum is to help educate people not to be lured into thinking they can beat mathematical house edge.


While I do understand your urge for seeing patterns in random results (and thus increase EV by a system/strategy), I also understand that
true random results have no pattern!

Once you realize this, you will see that you can't predict the results precise enough, often enough, to gain advantage in the long run.

 

[Seventh777]

Sweiger as ive never seen you on here I'll briefly try to explain why random events have no bearing on the success failure of THE ZONE.

A, You aren't trying to predict a specific outcome like a straight number,red or black or even what spin the dozen will come to rest.That's what few are taking onboard.

B House edge literally has zero effect because when a zero hits it simply adds to the streak to qualify a game.

C, most importantly why the zone works is you already know there is a common virtual limit that rarely gets broken.

Until someone other than myself verifies this comes back and tells others no one will even start to believe it I do realize this. When enough people see the same thing all of a sudden everyone sees it.

I am saying test it before you knock it. If even one person can prove I'm lying you'll never see me on this forum again.




I only came back on here in the first place because I got emails constantly asking me where have I been. BUT, if people are really that jaded, and can't be bothered to at least test it on paper. Then I won't stay.

If I have to think like everyone else with a defeatest attitude to be accepted what is the point of a gambling forum?

Sentinel it doesn`t matter what other people think, if you truly believe in what you`re saying, then it matters not what other people think.

There is no way of calculating 100% correct odds on an event happening just because x=y-z+* says it will happen thus, or it cannot possibly happen until another 10,000000 years according to this calculus, a few pointers here in the vast world of maths and odds of it happening.......

US Park Ranger Roy C. Sullivan from Virginia holds the record for the person most times struck by lightning - and living to tell the tale. Between 1942 and 1983, Roy has the dubious distinction of being struck by lightning seven times. Trillions of people will never get struck by lightening, but this man must surely be the worlds record holder for having such a one in a million event happening to him seven times, the odds on this must be incalculable!!!!.

Or this......

The recent lottery draws in Israel has thrown up precisely the same six numbers as it did three weeks ago. The odds of this happening are one in four trillion. In an even more bizarre twist, the numbers when they came out, were in the exact reverse order as when they came out three weeks back. The numbers drawn were 36, 33, 32, 26, 14, 13.

And yet another odds defying event....

A couple are celebrating after their third child was born at 7:43 - exactly the same time as their two older children were born, several years apart. According to hospital records, all three siblings from Salford, Greater Manchester, were coincidentally born at 7:43 - beating odds of 300 million to one.

If you do the lottery, your odds in England of winning it are roughly 25 million to win, yet, nigh on every week without fail at least one person defies these odds (calculated by brainiacs with a relatively easy formula of multiplying the permutations of X 6 numbers from 49), but as is the case with any of these multiplication based formulas, there is always a to 1 at the end of it.

Some food for thought.... Get yourself 2 packs of cards and shuffle them without mixing them, and turn a card over from one pack, and then the other, see how many times you can go through the packs without matching 2 identical cards, the relative odds of the exact same card in the same place has to be 52 x 52 or at least 52/1 doesn`t it?, try it.

One last snippet as to why odds and their respective formulas do not work 100% as expected... How many people would have to be in a room before 2 of them shared an identical birthday?, the odds would make it impossible not to occur at 366.242199 people, however the odds of it happening are around 1/10th of that figure at around 36 people.

One aspect we all have to agree on is, no matter what, there are irregularities that occur in all aspects of randomly generated equations, and in some cases they appear to be a set pattern, in very rare cases people have been in the right (or wrong) places at the right time and booom, they have defeated all odds.


On a footnote, if some guy came to this forum and started spouting he had a fail safe system for winning the lottery, we would all ridicule him, etc, etc, then what would happen if we were to later find out it was the guy who won 80 million Euros on the Euro lottery a few years ago?, how could we argue that his system failed?.

 

[Sentinel]

Okay 777 you seem like someone a Little more open to reason. Let me ask you this Question...If you saw a method Work in the last 11 years winning real money and Always delivering a similar winning strike rate, Would you Believe in it?

 

[Seventh777]

Okay 777 you seem like someone a. Little more open to reason.Let me ask you this Question...If you saw a method Work in the last 11 years winning really money and Always delivering the same winning strike rate, Would you. Believe in it?

Ofc I would, and like I stated previously, if this system is working for you, that is all that matters .

 

[Sentinel]

IMO, well, one of the points of a gambling forum is to help educate people not to be lured into thinking they can beat mathematical house edge.


While I do understand your urge for seeing patterns in random results (and thus increase EV by a system/strategy), I also understand that
true random results have no pattern!

Once you realize this, you will see that you can't predict the results precise enough, often enough, to gain advantage in the long run.

Sweiger I. Agree 100% they Have no Pattern but there is a traceable limit to how often they can produce consecutive losing streaks in excess of 8 spins for the Dozens and. Columns.

And that limit of 5 times in A. Row is rarely broken. That's all I'm saying. Don't ask me to explain why because I. Can't. But random spins Can rarely produce 5 or more streaks like this 11,09,12,14,21,And, that's the only reason the zone works.

Without this fact it would be just another useless strategy...

 

[Da_Gambla]

A, You aren't trying to predict a specific outcome like a straight number,red or black or even what spin the dozen will come to rest.That's what few are taking onboard.

B House edge literally has zero effect because when a zero hits it simply adds to the streak to qualify a game.

See, you don't even realize what you're saying... A and B don't exist on the same planet.

In A, you're saying we're in NO WAY relying on predicting an impending outcome.

In B, you're saying that zero ADDS TO THE STREAK that qualifies a strike.

These two ideals contradict each other. I'll go further by saying A is the 'lure'. It's what you want people to think so they'll feel safer in regards to all the warnings we have posted. B is the ACTUAL truth to the matter, you ABSOLUTELY ARE using past results to predict a pattern and 'qualify' an opportunity.

If it smells like BS, tastes like BS and looks like BS, it's only one thing, and you can candy coat it all you want now that you are being forced to face facts...

Again, the fact is, if you weren't using past results, you would never have a pattern for a strike. A pattern does not exist until something has already happened, and you are COUNTING those patterns as they transpire. This is a PREDICTION ON PAST RESULTS, period.

- Keith

 

[sweiger]

Sweiger I. Agree 100% they Have no Pattern but there is a traceable limit to how often they can produce consecutive losing streaks in excess of 8 spins for the Dozens and. Columns.

And that limit of 5 times in A. Row is rarely broken. That's all I'm saying. Don't ask me to explain why because I. Can't. But random spins Can rarely produce 5 or more streaks like this 11,09,12,14,21,And, that's the only reason the zone works.

Without this fact it would be just another useless strategy...

So what do you do when the roulette ball decides to break your "limit of producing losing streaks" and will land consecutively in the wrong areas for session after session?
Remember, that ball has no memory (catchy phrase, eh?).
It does NOT follow any "rules" that you or I or anyone else can come up with.

If really you could turn the table in your favour for 11 years with your strategy, you wouldn't bother posting here. You'd be busy counting your millions and playing with chicks on a remote island with no taxes.

Other than that, I agree with the bolded in your post.

 

[Sentinel]

The only way this gets accepted is when someone stops calling me a liar and sees it for themselves. I have absolutely nothing to gain telling anyone this. You all think I'm lying but not one persons shown proof.
Seventh777 is right. I'm the only person who needs to know it works but it would be nice to see some other people realize it too.

 

[Da_Gambla]

[.. snip ..]if we were to later find out it was the guy who won 80 million Euros on the Euro lottery a few years ago?, how could we argue that his system failed?.

This thread has degenerated into some mindsets that Sentinel's system will fail. I have tried hard to avoid that, and have in fact said that probability isn't a science of failure, that it also includes successes. If the hypothetical man above won, then probability smiled on him, NOT his system.

If you are counting cards in a card game as a system, that system can succeed or fail, because you really are keeping track of odds that are changing in your favor or against you. In roulette, there is no system that can succeed OR FAIL, because there is no such thing as a system that you can base on a random event. Any success and any failure in roulette is based on a singular event, that has no care what the singular event before it did, nor the one after it. Therefore, any roulette system does NOT exist, because a system has only one way to exist, and that's by visible patterns. While you can see patterns in roulette if you force yourself to, they don't really exist in reality (unless we want to start going off on a tangent about flaws in misaligned or biased wheels, or polluted computer RNG's).

Card counting systems actually exist. Roulette systems do NOT, period. They never have, they never will. They can only exist in the mind of someone intoxicated with the idea that they exist. That's all I have been trying to point out, and whilst this chap has suddenly started chanting that his system doesn't rely on predicting a future outcome based on a prior number of outcomes, it's hogwash. He is relying on these things, because he's calling it a system, and he's tracking events to trigger a play, so in his mind, it is a system.

If it wins, how can we say he failed? We can't, because he didn't. He didn't succeed either. Probability had an outcome, and there's nothing more to it.

- Keith

 

[Da_Gambla]

Sweiger I. Agree 100% they Have no Pattern but there is a traceable limit to how often they can produce consecutive losing streaks in excess of 8 spins for the Dozens and. Columns.

You might as well stop with the double speak. I'm going to point it out EVERY time.

You agree they have no pattern, yet if they are producing something visible to you THAT'S A FREAKING PATTERN. I repeat, you are a POOR SALESMAN, and you are nothing but lunch to professional gamblers.

For God's sake man... get out and get some fresh air.

- Keith

 

[Sentinel]

Sorry Keith you are way off. WHY IS MY METHOD CALLED THE ZONE? See you don't even know what the strategy attempts to achieve. Yet you want to give me a lecture on my own method. The zone has four chances to win. Didn't know that I'll bet.

But thats not its strength.It power comes from total mastery of the losing streak.NO STRATEGY HAS ***EVER*** tackled this. HENCE why 99.99% of people think it can't be done, including you.NOW you Can go on and on about tired old theories that apply to all the strategies you have tried and failed with.

But you can't prove what I say isn't so. Until you can your comments mean nothing.

Don't worry you Can bust open the champagne I'm about done with this narrow minded forum where nobody has anything to offer but playing lapdog to mathematicians.


If you can't be bothered then I'll leave you in the dark as happy losers....

 

[Sentinel]

You might as well stop with the double speak. I'm going to point it out EVERY time.

You agree they have no pattern, yet if they are producing something visible to you THAT'S A FREAKING PATTERN. I repeat, you are a POOR SALESMAN, and you are nothing but lunch to professional gamblers.

For God's sake man... get out and get some fresh air.

- Keith

Learn the difference between a pattern and a COMMON VIRTUAL LIMIT.

 

[jod5413]

Didn't you say you were going to quit posting a page or three back, Sentinel?

I could have sworn you had. And I, along with a few others sighed and said Thank The Lord!

So.......................................

Why are you still here posting your silliness?

 

[Da_Gambla]

I have finally found something suitable for my sig... Sentinel, you have been immortalized.

- Keith

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

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[Da_Gambla]

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Yah, I just found that thread about 10 mins ago, and am having a REALLY great laugh right about now... no wonder Sentinel came here.. they tore him a new one good over there...

So much for him needing US to test his theories... it's been worked over by quite a few people. It lost to the point of obviously being no better than any other vapor system. K, I'm back to that thread... it's great entertainment now that we know who Sentinel is (he was Fender1000 on those forums, but I'm thinking he deleted all his posts. People quote him, but the posts don't show up).

- Keith

 

[Sentinel]

Wrong again Keith not one person to this day has tested the method properly,faithfully.Hence it won't deliver.

 

[Sentinel]

I was thinking you could be. THE FIRST.You are obviously respected on here.If you test it EXACTLY as I stipulate and it doesn't hold up I have nothing left to say. Are you up for that?

You see ive posted it before and not one person has the patience and discipline to run it. Properly other than myself.It must be played to the letter.Do this and two things will come out of it. One YOU'LL REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH. And two if ive been lying I'll have no where to go with it.

OTHERWISE I'll go from forum to forum until that special person who has what it takes finally verifies what I've known for 11 years.

 

[Sentinel]

I want you to be the one who breaks it to the masses Keith its your calling what you were born to do.Imagine the headlines ex software programmer from orange county CA finally breaks the game of roulette.

 

[Sentinel]

Pascal blaise and Einstein will be turning in their graves, you'll go on talk shows and lectures at Harvard and Yale. You'll be invited To dinner with Steve Jobs and even the president. Can you see it now Keith?

 

[Nifty29]

I was thinking you could be. THE FIRST.You are obviously respected on here.If you test it EXACTLY as I stipulate and it doesn't hold up I have nothing left to say. Are you up for that?

You see ive posted it before and not one person has the patience and discipline to run it. Properly other than myself.It must be played to the letter.Do this and two things will come out of it. One YOU'LL REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH. And two if ive been lying I'll have no where to go with it.

OTHERWISE I'll go from forum to forum until that special person who has what it takes finally verifies what I've known for 11 years.

Yes, I think it would take someone very 'special' indeed.....

 

[Sentinel]

Yes Nifty that's why I want it to be Keith he is so good at communicating, he will be perfect for breaking it to the world. I want no acclaim the limelight will be. His alone...

 

[Nifty29]

Yes Nifty that's why I want it to be Keith he is so good at communicating, he will be perfect for breaking it to the world. I want no acclaim the limelight will be. His alone...

I'm not quite sure you understand what I meant by 'special'.

Wow they really gave you a flogging over are that other forum. It must be tough being the only guy in the world who believes that mathematicians have been pulling the wool over our eyes for centuries.