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How does gambling make you feel? POLL

How do feel after your typical online session?

  • Happy

    Votes: 15 30.6%
  • Unhappy

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • Satisfied

    Votes: 15 30.6%
  • Frustrated

    Votes: 21 42.9%
  • Mellow

    Votes: 7 14.3%
  • Angry

    Votes: 8 16.3%

  • Total voters
    49

Rusty

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OK this would obviously depend to a large degree on how well you did so I want you to think of how you feel after your "typical" online gaming session.
You may choose more than 1 option.

I am going to choose later I am too Unhappy,angry and frustrated right now!
 
I voted 'frustrated' because most times I'm either angry that I played 200+ spins & didn't get a feature, so deviated from my 'plan', or that I got well ahead of the game but let it slip by being careless or starting with my bets too high. :(

Overall though I'm generally fairly happy. ;)

Good poll! :thumbsup:
 
I wouldn't be quick to say I'm frusterated after I lose - I always know there is a win around the corner, it's a matter of controling myself I find to be the most important. When I'm not already intoxicated, that is. :D
 
I did not vote, because this option was not there - I'd say that after a gaming session, typically, doesn't matter if I won, lost or stayed at where I started - I feel exhausted and somewhat empty... if this is the right way to describe it ;)
 
OK this would obviously depend to a large degree on how well you did so I want you to think of how you feel after your "typical" online gaming session.
You may choose more than 1 option.

I am going to choose later I am too Unhappy,angry and frustrated right now!

Rusty, I've read alot of your post in the past. May I offer my opinion? I really think you should give up gambling. Its not the slots, nor the casinos. It's YOU! And you must come to terms with this. Do yourself a big big favor and purchase gamblock. You will be glad you did. There is no reason why the internet should make you unhappy. Unless you are doing risky things. And gambling seems to be your problem. Trust me my friend, you won't be missing anything. You must have the well to quit and your first step would be to buy gamblock.
 
Kind of a one sided poll. Only two positive responses out of six and those two were kinda luke warm.

I would have voted for, insanely happy, ecstatic or even walking on clouds...

IMO Gambling is just like anything else, if it feels good, do it.

However, if it don't feel good, don't do it.
 
Kind of a one sided poll. Only two positive responses out of six and those two were kinda luke warm.

I would have voted for, insanely happy, ecstatic or even walking on clouds...

IMO Gambling is just like anything else, if it feels good, do it.

However, if it don't feel good, don't do it.


I don't agree, for each negative option there is an alternative option.

Rusty, I've read alot of your post in the past. May I offer my opinion? I really think you should give up gambling. Its not the slots, nor the casinos. It's YOU! And you must come to terms with this. Do yourself a big big favor and purchase gamblock. You will be glad you did. There is no reason why the internet should make you unhappy. Unless you are doing risky things. And gambling seems to be your problem. Trust me my friend, you won't be missing anything. You must have the well to quit and your first step would be to buy gamblock

Thanks for the advice and i know you mean well, I only gamble what I can afford these Days but that does not mean I do not have the right to feel cheated and angry by consistently low returns.
I should get more than an hours entertainment from 3 or 4 deposits low rolling.
Tonight I gambled around $160 playing around 36c a spin average at 3 different Casinos and in all I played for less than hour.
That is pretty pathetic.

hey rusty, so can i check them all? i feel like a bi- polar gambler sometimes, so im gonna check all of them............ ...laurie..........great poll btw..........

Of course you can!
I know just what you mean and that is why I made it multiple choice.

Thanks to all who have taken part so far :thumbsup:
 
I just take it as it happens, if I win, great..:D If I lose...:rolleyes: But overall have a good time either way or I wouldn't go back.

There should have been one more pole below Angry! "I've had to buy five new computers this year alone" :eek:
 
this applies more to brick and morter casinos but when i'm playing i get a rush that i cant describe. i love the atmosphere, the sounds, colors, people....going on a bender in vegas is the closest i can feel to when i was an athlete. i can tell you that nothing in my life will ever compare to scoring a goal in front of 20,000 crazed, lunatic, screaming fans but when i'm on a roll at the craps table it does the job.:)
 
I look for the fun side of the casinos. Dont get me wrong i luv to have a withdraw but then who doesnt. But if i can deposit and have fun with it and in long run lost it doesnt bother me if i enjoyed the session. Few weeks back clubworld i dropped 25 in well i hit free spin after free spin that penguin game kept giving me respins. As im playing the rest of the house here had joined me we had a blast. We played in there for hours with bonus rounds free spins and the odd really sweet hit here and there. I landed playing with that deposit for over a week it kept me going and as i said it was fun. To me there is nothing worse then those dead spins back to back just takes the fun away from it all.
If i ever got that serious about depositing and having to win that would be the end of my playing time for me its entertainment not the need to get losses back.
 
First of all, great thread idea! The psychology aspect of gambling is always very interesting and underrated in my opinion.

I have a slightly different point of view maybe than most of the contribuors thus far in this thread, since I have been gambling for living (playing online poker) for a few years already. So my personal attitude towards gambling is (and has to be) a bit different than for a person who just plays for entertainment once in a while.

There would be a ton to discuss on this topic, but I try to keep it short and comment some of my experiences how gambling has made me feel.

What Id like to stress, is that gambling is like using alcohol (in this feel way) - If you are a normal drinker, maybe drinking a couple of beers once-twice a week and a bit more seldom on holiday parties or so, you get used to drinking normal, (non-unhealthy) amounts and it just gives you a good feeling and lowers your stress etc. But just keep 4 months off drinking completely and then drink a couple of beers - oh my god it certainly feels different! Your tolerance has gotten lower and you feel a bit dizzy and blushing already after two beers (maybe even one)!

This same thing applies to gambling. If you are somewhat regular gambler - well, it doesnt feel much at all if you are winning or losing. You start to get used to it (at least if you are a pro). But I personally have taken a few ~2 month breaks from playing at all and the firs times after the break when I hit the tables and I get my first huge hand getting action - oh my god, what an adrenaline rush it produces! Certainly there are same kind of characters when we compare alcohol and gambling in this way.

We can call this phenomena with a term "humans comfort level". When you get used to something - its not that big of a deal anymore. I am sure many people have felt this same thing playing on casinos with certain bet level they are used to. Just try to raise your bet level to maybe like ~3 times to your normal level, hit a few spins and check what is happening to your heart rate - yeah, its definitely raising! Again - when we get out of our comfort zoneit makes things to happen in our brains. I think this part of evolution and human nature; like when you are in a danger, your body starts function differently - you get more focused and ready to act, your body temperature and heart rate rises etc. Its build into a human brain and body that when you leave your comfort zone, you start to feel different. Same applies to losing bigger than normal amounts when gambling. You have certain comfort zone in losing too. I think many of you fellow members can agree? You have sometime lost more than you actually had prepared to - how have you felt afterwards? Id say different than normal!


There would be a ton to discuss on this topic, and this thread gave me an inspiration to write something more about this - I think Ill add some things about the psychological side of gambling to my few next blog entries feeling inspired from this thread. :thumbsup:
 
As others have said......it depends. It depends on my mood at the time and if I'm winning or if I'm losing, several different factors come in to play, even as to why I'm gambling at that particular moment in time.
 
Gambling has always made me Happy - I do get frustrated especially when someone rivers a crappy hand and cracks my As ( just happened I'm still steaming - how does anyone go all in with 3 8 :mad:) But I'm generally very happy when I'm gambling :D
 
I voted for satisfaction. I am only happy when I win but as with being at land casinos, racetracks or during mahjong sessions, I am normally satisfied after having a flutter at what I want. There will be occasions when I felt frustrated like yesterday at a live BJ online session when I got 2 face cards twice in a row against the dealer only to lose to 3-card 21's. There was a player who hit on a hard 17 during the process.

Actually, except for KK possibly, we sometimes gamble to vent our frustrations and after sweating it out literally we feel better as with other people who take to exercising at the gym. It's just a different way of doing things.
 
As NextToYou pointed out the psychology of a gambler is certainly interesting as confirmed by the Two top answers so far.
Apparently being frustrated makes us happy :p

Personally I think NextToYou touched upon One of the reasons gambling can become so dangerous when he mentions a gamblers need to be taken out of their comfort zone.
It is comparable to compulsive exercising or a drug in that it takes larger and larger amounts (higher and higher bets) to get the same "endorphin rush"

Fortunately most of us are not compulsive or obsessive by nature and are able to at least limit or even irradicate any potential damage by employing a degree of self control.

Amateur psychology aside though I find it fascinating that some people can get enjoyment from gambling without a real risk factor being involved.
Are you still a gambler if, that when you gamble it is only such amounts that when you lose, it makes no difference or has no affect?

Non gamblers say "You have to be stupid to gamble" but in truth you have to be stupid to make such an ignorant remark.

Gamblers come from every background,race and social standing and we have the full variety right here on this blessed forum.

Keep the votes coming and be lucky you mad crazy fools! ;)
 
this applies more to brick and morter casinos but when i'm playing i get a rush that i cant describe. i love the atmosphere, the sounds, colors, people....going on a bender in vegas is the closest i can feel to when i was an athlete. i can tell you that nothing in my life will ever compare to scoring a goal in front of 20,000 crazed, lunatic, screaming fans but when i'm on a roll at the craps table it does the job.:)

Great post. But do take care. If you are not playing with an advantage it will bite you big time one day. The flipside of the adrenaline rush is losing sums big enough to be totally unable to sleep. Big enough to cause a stomach cramp that lasts for days. And yes I am talking from personal experience.

If you start to enjoy gambling too much it can be really dangerous. We should be playing with an advantage, playing to a budget or playing socially. But if you are gambling for the rush you will can find yourself in dangerous territory. It's always a fine line isn't it?
 
Great post. But do take care. If you are not playing with an advantage it will bite you big time one day. The flipside of the adrenaline rush is losing sums big enough to be totally unable to sleep. Big enough to cause a stomach cramp that lasts for days. And yes I am talking from personal experience.

If you start to enjoy gambling too much it can be really dangerous. We should be playing with an advantage, playing to a budget or playing socially. But if you are gambling for the rush you will can find yourself in dangerous territory. It's always a fine line isn't it?

good point. personally though i do not "gamble". i have a very strict yearly budget for gaming purposes. the money is deducted from my yearly income and considered an expense therefore it can never be a problem.......
 
You can't feel the same after every session, they are all different and so are the feelings.

Win a lot with a little and your happy.

Win a little with a lot. ?

Lose a lot?

Lose a little?

It depends on your outcome.
Good post,Catrina!! Probably for most but certainly "It" if the numerous medical research and studies are as credible as the gaming industries':rolleyes:, win or lose outcomes may or may not correlate to one's feelings.

As NextToYou pointed out the psychology of a gambler is certainly interesting as confirmed by the Two top answers so far.
Apparently being frustrated makes us happy :p

Personally I think NextToYou touched upon One of the reasons gambling can become so dangerous when he mentions a gamblers need to be taken out of their comfort zone. It is comparable to compulsive exercising or a drug in that it takes larger and larger amounts (higher and higher bets) to get the same "endorphin rush"

Fortunately most of us are not compulsive or obsessive by nature and are able to at least limit or even irradicate any potential damage by employing a degree of self control.

Amateur psychology aside though I find it fascinating that some people can get enjoyment from gambling without a real risk factor being involved.
Are you still a gambler if, that when you gamble it is only such amounts that when you lose, it makes no difference or has no affect?

Non gamblers say "You have to be stupid to gamble" but in truth you have to be stupid to make such an ignorant remark.

Gamblers come from every background,race and social standing and we have the full variety right here on this blessed forum.

Keep the votes coming and be lucky you mad crazy fools! ;)
Good post also,Rusty!! FTR, I do not agree with every point, I do agree with your main point assuming I comprehended correctly. Below is a prior post I posted long ago and I believe it is also applicable to this thread also:






This may help explain and there is all kinds of published as well as ongoing medical research. The following is not from a medical journal but is based on known medical research. I post this article as it easier to understand than some of the publications it is based on: Source:This paper reflects the research and thoughts of a student at the time the paper was written for a course at Bryn Mawr College. Like other materials on Serendip, it is not intended to be "authoritative" but rather to help others further develop their own explorations. Web links were active as of the time the paper was posted but are not updated.

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Dopamine and Addiction

Imran Siddiqui
Dopamine is neurotransmitter in the brain that plays vital roles in a variety of different behaviors. The major behaviors dopamine affects are movement, cognition, pleasure, and motivation (1). Dopamine is an essential component of the basal ganglia motor loop, as well as the neurotransmitter responsible for controlling the exchange of information from one brain area to another (1). However, it is the role that dopamine plays in pleasure and motivation that attracts the most neurobiologists attention as well as mine.

In certain areas of the brain when dopamine is released it gives one the feeling of pleasure or satisfaction (1). These feelings of satisfaction become desired, and the person will grow a desire for the satisfaction. To satisfy that desire the person will repeat behaviors that cause the release of dopamine (2). For example food and sex release dopamine (2). That is why people want food even though their body does not need it and why people sometimes need sex. These two behaviors scientifically make sense since the body needs food to survive, and humans need to have sex to allow the race to survive. However, other, less natural behaviors have the same effect on one's dopamine levels, and at times can even be more powerful. Often these behaviors can result in addiction due their effect on dopamine, and that addiction can have negative effects on a person's well-being. Two of such behaviors are

Cocaine is by far the more severe of the two in terms of addiction. Cocaine chemically inhibits the natural dopamine cycle. Normally, after dopamine is released, it is recycled back into a dopamine transmitting neuron. However, cocaine binds to the dopamine, and does not allow it to be recycled. Thus there is a buildup of dopamine, and it floods certain neural areas (3). The flood ends after about 30 minutes, and the person is left yearning to feel as he or she once did (3). That is how the addiction begins. Progressively a tolerance builds up due to the fact that the person is constantly trying to repeat the feeling that he or she had the first time (2). However, the person cannot, because dopamine is also released when something pleasurable yet unexpected occurs (4). After the first time, the person expects the effect, thus less dopamine is released, and the experience is less satisfying. This principal is the foundation of why gambling releases dopamine.
Several studies have been conducted which targeted neural response to rewards. The results were unanimous in the fact that when one performed an action over and over again, and was given a reward randomly, dopamine levels rose. If the reward was given consistently, i.e. every four time the action was performed, the dopamine levels remained constant. Finally, if no reward was given dopamine levels dropped (4). These same random rewards can be seen in gambling. Because the outcome is based on chance, one does not know prior if he or she will win. Therefore, if the person one wins, dopamine levels increase (4). However, unlike cocaine, gambling causes addiction in only 4% of participants. This is due to the fact that Cocaine's chemical input is much more influential on dopamine levels than gambling's behavioral input. Therefore, only people whose dopamine levels are low, become addicted to gambling (5).

This brings up a very interesting topic of discussion. How do some people have lower dopamine levels than others? Is it genetic, environment related, something else, or a combination of factors? One study concluded that pathological gamblers most often experienced traumatizing experiences when they were younger (5). Because most people who become addicted to gambling have low dopamine levels, and also that same group usually has endured a traumatic experience, we have support for the observation that overall dopamine levels can change due to environmental factors. This then supports the observation that both the mind and brain can change to environmental factors. However, another study has observed that a gene related to dopamine is found twice as often in pathological gamblers than non-gamblers
(5). This supports the observation that dopamine levels are genetic. Therefore, there are two plausible observations that can be made. Either both genetics and environmental factors effect ones brain anatomy and mind simultaneously, or that environmental factors can affect genes which in turn affect ones brain and mind. Because the observations in the studies show such a strong correlation between pathological gambling, traumatic experiences, and genetic influence, it the later which seems to be the least wrong observation.

Another important question, however more philosophical, is why is risk and reward a trigger for the release of dopamine? As stated earlier, it is scientifically logical that sex and food release dopamine, because they are essential for the sustained life of man. Risk and reward are not, are they? It is my belief that in nature everything happens for a reason; therefore, there must be a scientific explanation for the increase of dopamine levels in result of risk and reward. It seems to me that the human race separates itself from other species on this planet by not only its ability to reason, but its ability to create and innovate. I feel that nature wants humans to create and innovate, and in order to do this a person has to feel satisfaction when one accomplishes an innovation. To accomplish an innovation one has to take risks. It is risky to try to do something that no other being on earth has ever accomplished. Therefore, there must be a reward other than material that one gets when he or she accomplishes the innovation, or that person would not take the risk. The reward is the release of dopamine and the feeling of satisfaction. The problem with this process is that not only can one be satisfied after a major risk and accomplishment, but one can also be satisfied through constant minute risks and accomplishments. Gambling is an example of this.
These feelings of satisfaction that dopamine exhibits are so strong that one can often loses one's ability to reason in order to achieve satisfaction (4). It is then the unconscious that takes over and begins to make certain decisions. The brain develops neural circuits that unconsciously assess reward (4). Because the dopamine plays an active role in these circuits, a person will act in what they think is in their best interest, when in fact the only interest it satisfies is the release of dopamine. This can be exemplified in gambling where one insists on gambling even though he or she knows that the odds are against them (4). This is the case in all casino games, where the games are structured for the house to win. Probability and reason no longer are the most important factors in decision making. The unconscious need for the release of dopamine becomes most important. This supports the observation that the unconscious plays a vital role in decision making.
From this discussion of dopamine and addiction I was able to make some fairly general observations abut the brain. I observed that both a chemical (cocaine) and a behavior (gambling) can have the same effect on the brain. Furthermore, I observed that the brain is affected by both genes and environmental factors, and that most likely the environmental factors affect genes which affect the brain. Also, I was able to observe that dopamine makes humans take risks so that they may achieve greater innovations. And finally it was observable through gambling that the unconscious is constantly making important decisions. It is amazing how one specific topic can generate so many general observations about how the brain, mind, and nature function.

References
1) Dopamine

2) The Dopamine Connection

3) Cocaine Abuse and Addiction

4) Hijacking the Brain Circuits with a Nickel Slot Machine

5) Mental and Physical Status of Gamblers: Physiological Findings


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