High variance NetEnt slots?

I can't help feeling a bit sorry for the team behind Scarface though, they must have got some stick when they reached that part of it...

The single biggest problem with Scarface is the dreadful, awful, unspeakably tedious 'Last Stand' bonus round. As a player I genuinely groan when that bonus round drops in, because I know I'm going to have to manually take control of a long-winded bonus round where I inevitably fail and I'm going to be doing well to win more than 10x my stake. Looking at the help file this round appears to be capped at 40x stake, which is a derisory payout for what should be a 'centrepiece' bonus round.

Now I'd don't know how limited NetEnt were by the licence, maybe they weren't allowed to have him escape or kill the assassin who sneaks up from behind him or anything else that isn't true to the film, but they really needed to do something to give that bonus round a decent pay potential, even if it only crops up rarely. I mean, even if the round doesn't change at all in how it operates, just have it drop in five times less frequently but boost the pay range to 25-200x stake, that alone would give it some decent pay potential.

(Or, at the very least, put a bloody autoplay on it!)

As for the other two bonus rounds, the Free Spins look like they should be alright on paper, but in reality I've never had them kick out more than about 75x as best I can recall - adding some extra wilds to the reels and making the round somewhat rarer to compensate, would have made it far more interesting.

The Nudge Wild is just an exercise in frustration, but at least it's over quickly.

Now it isn't clear from the paytable or the help file if all the full wilds can drop in on a single spin, but getting 2-3-4 completely wild with good symbols on 1+5, and then getting the bonus rounds off them would equate to a potentially very big pay - but I've never seen it. (And whilst I've played it a modest amount for real money, I've lumped some serious spins through this slot in free play.) The one time I did get more than one full wild it was 2 and 4, with nothing on the other reels to make a decent pay......

Then there's the partial wilds you can get on 2-3-4, again these do have some reasonable pay potential, but I've never seen it be fulfilled.

OVERALL - I just do not understand where the potentially big pays are on this slot to justify its incredibly tedious behaviour most of the time. Lest we forget that a high variance slot is basically a boring affair. BDBA/Reel Steal are boring slots in the main, BUT WE KNOW that they have that HUGE hit potential and that's what keeps them interesting.

Scarface manages to be as boring as the dullest high variance slot, and yet doesn't seem to compensate with any real big win potential.

Maybe it is in there and I've just never seen it (and nor has anyone else, if the Winners Screenshots thread is anything to go by) - but for me this slot is a spectacular misfire.

FOR THE RECORD - In terms of presentation, graphics, design, sound and music it's a great slot - the thing that absolutely bombs this slot to destruction on the runway is the choice of pay profile/variance that NetEnt have given it.
 
Excellent review of Scarface, Chopley - do you mind if I use it on my site? :p

You summed it up perfectly - any slot where you want the bonus feature to be over ASAP has to have been badly designed.

Having said that though - I do quite like Scarface in that to me it seems like it's a pretty low variance slot (which I prefer), and if you're betting a reasonable amount per spin and get 3 or 4 features in close succession, it can be profitable. ;)

KK
 
Excellent review of Scarface, Chopley - do you mind if I use it on my site? :p

Feel free, just give me a credit for writing it :)

You summed it up perfectly - any slot where you want the bonus feature to be over ASAP has to have been badly designed.

Having said that though - I do quite like Scarface in that to me it seems like it's a pretty low variance slot (which I prefer), and if you're betting a reasonable amount per spin and get 3 or 4 features in close succession, it can be profitable. ;)

It's the kind of slot that only really makes sense when played at higher stakes, and yes, a few quick raises of 5-20x stake could be very nice if you're playing at a hefty whack per spin.

However, IMO the slot designers should consider how the slot will 'feel' to people playing at all stakes, and that includes the low-rollers who are playing less than 1£/$/€ per spin.
 
try Jackpot 6000 (Netent) 600X bet

No autoplay!

Also, I never quite know how to work out random slots that have a gamble feature.

What do I have to do to achieve the stated 98.86% RTP? Do I simply collect every win as it's awarded? Do I have to achieve 'optimal' coin-toss gamble strategy? Should I ever play the Supermeter game?

Basically, should I ever gamble anything, or everything, or nothing?

If I land a €30 win on the base reels, then gamble and lose the lot on the Supermeter, is that €30 included in the T-RTP calculation or not?

Where does that 98.86% RTP figure come from?
 
Mega Joker has a 99% RTP. It must be a combination of the Supermeter feature and base game though.

Strange, strange games there does appear to be a bit of strategy to them though...




No autoplay!

Also, I never quite know how to work out random slots that have a gamble feature.

What do I have to do to achieve the stated 98.86% RTP? Do I simply collect every win as it's awarded? Do I have to achieve 'optimal' coin-toss gamble strategy? Should I ever play the Supermeter game?

Basically, should I ever gamble anything, or everything, or nothing?

If I land a €30 win on the base reels, then gamble and lose the lot on the Supermeter, is that €30 included in the T-RTP calculation or not?

Where does that 98.86% RTP figure come from?
 
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Talking about NetEnt games. I see that Nordicbet had a big winner on Jack and the Beanstalk the other day.

This player won over 4500 X bet (€10 000 / €2 bet) :D

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There is an autoplay for the bonus round on Crime Scene and Scar Face. Go to advance settings and either tick the "If bonus game is won" or leave it blank, can't remember which one. But I have had the slot do the picking for me before.
 
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What LOOKAWAY said. In Scarface you need to uncheck "If bonus rounds is won" if you want to use autoplay during the bonus round.


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Talking about NetEnt games. I see that Nordicbet had a big winner on Jack and the Beanstalk the other day.

This player won over 4500 X bet (€10 000 / €2 bet) :D

I'd always thought that this slot has that kind of potential, with the expanding wilds having (theoretically) the ability to drop in spin after spin without even decreasing the number of free spins that are left.

4500x stake is a massive hit.

I think I'll add Jack & The Beanstalk to the list for my next YouTube video, which is going to be CHOPLEY VS HIGH VARIANCE NETENT SLOTS, played at Redbet.

I'll use the tiling feature to get four running at once, most likely Real Steal, Dead or Alive, Jack & The Beanstalk and..... I'm still not entirely decided for the fourth one.

It's going to be a real glory or disaster session I think :D
 
There is an autoplay for the bonus round on Crime Scene and Scar Face. Go to advance settings and either tick the "If bonus game is won" or leave it blank, can't remember which one. But I have had the slot do the picking for me before.

Ahhhh yes, that does actually work (just tried them both in free play).

For Crime Scene I don't mind doing the picks manually, but it does potentially make Scarface around 16.85% less annoying :D

Cheers for the tip, I'll RTFM a bit more next time!
 
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Looking forward to your next video Chopley :thumbsup:

Glad you are including Jack and the Beanstalk. I think that the free spin feature in Jack is one of the best and most exciting features in any game regardless of supplier. Walking wilds, stacked wilds, expanding wilds etc...brilliant!



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Looking forward to your next video Chopley :thumbsup:

Glad you are including Jack and the Beanstalk. I think that the free spin feature in Jack is one of the best and most exciting features in any game regardless of supplier. Walking wilds, stacked wilds, expanding wilds etc...brilliant!

Yeah TBH I was already 90% of the way there on deciding to include Jack & The Beanstalk, but seeing the proof that it does have that mega-hit potential has sealed the deal :)

The free spins round on this slot is genius I have to say.

I like the way that it's not limited by the actual number of 'base' free spins the round provides, because as long as there's a wild anywhere on the reels, it can just keep on going and going, which means that even a poor looking round can turn out very well. The way the wilds 'grow' on each level is a splendid little touch.

Dead or Alive, on the other hand, seems to rely on getting those sticky wilds established fairly early on, and building on them from there. (I think Dead or Alive is a more 'traditional' high variance slot, like Reel Steal.)

I'll try and get the session filmed over the coming weekend (Friday and Saturday night is my slots time, after the family are tucked up in bed :)), although I'm not intending to stay up past 3:30am this week :lolup:

Mind you, needless to say, playing four high variance slots at once could end up in disaster territory pretty quickly - but I'm fully aware of what I'm taking on :eek:
 
Now you gotten me all curious...
Can you elaborate on that a bit?

Well not really, cos I haven't worked it out :)
Having looked at lots of gameplay there seems to be a way to use the super meter to maximise returns. It's based on some offline Norwegian slot that's popular there - that really shows.
We get lots of players playing these (both here and at the last casino I worked at) but only Norwegians seem to win on it.
 
We get lots of players playing these (both here and at the last casino I worked at) but only Norwegians seem to win on it.
Does anyone know how easy it would be for me to get Norwegian Citerzenship... ?

KK :p
 
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Looking forward to your next video Chopley :thumbsup:

Glad you are including Jack and the Beanstalk. I think that the free spin feature in Jack is one of the best and most exciting features in any game regardless of supplier. Walking wilds, stacked wilds, expanding wilds etc...brilliant!



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Cant agree more!
Jack and the Beanstalk is without a doubt my favourite NetEnt slot.

But I find the variance hard to determine on this one.
Its one of those games you can sometimes play for hours with little balance.
But the free spins can really skyrocket your balance when you get to the last stage and the expanding wilds start hitting.:D

But even without the big hits, its a fun slot to play.

Looking forward to the video Chopley, I really hope you hit big!!!:thumbsup:
 
Talking about NetEnt games. I see that Nordicbet had a big winner on Jack and the Beanstalk the other day.

This player won over 4500 X bet (€10 000 / €2 bet) :D

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I've just realised that's a VERY strange statement for the casino to make... It says he won €10,000+ from a €2 spin, which is obviously over 5,000 x his bet...
So why would anyone only say it was over bet x 4500... :confused:

KK
 
I've just realised that's a VERY strange statement for the casino to make... It says he won €10,000+ from a €2 spin, which is obviously over 5,000 x his bet...
So why would anyone only say it was over bet x 4500... :confused:

KK

Hmmm, interesting point.
 
I've just realised that's a VERY strange statement for the casino to make... It says he won €10,000+ from a €2 spin, which is obviously over 5,000 x his bet...
So why would anyone only say it was over bet x 4500... :confused:

KK

Yes, you are correct KK. I shall forward it to our friend Ben from Nordicbet. They probably only forgot to use a calculator or something :D
 

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