Hey y'all! Shan here! Self-Excluded for 3 yrs from 3dice. What's up?!

There's more. Here's a little nudge to get you going in the right direction---->

Belgium gaming commish/id verification software.

Trueodds is in neck deep with the Belgium Gaming Commission. Based on my communications with them, it is my assertion that the Belgium GC is slippery. Their own website, with links to their laws and regulations does not reflect the reality of their implementation.

Find the links between reddice & 3Dice --focusing on the software developer.
Look for name changes in both directions-past to present. You should be able to trace everything back to a really cool psychedelic Tetris game.
If nothing else, I'd like to say that the developers used to be some cool mofos.


Shills for corruption in 5...4...3...

I am not inclined to spar with ANYONE. In the past, I addressed every shill post and every brainwashed cheerleader. Everyone has the means and the ability to discern the truth. The choice to know is yours. Your peace of mind is not my responsibility simply because I pounded out a response. You can take the direction I provided and run with it or don't...but I will not engage.
 
Rena, always a pleasure to see you post. You and other players are the thing I miss most about 3Dice. You too Shan.

I rarely read posts about casinos I do not play at, unless it is non-payment issues, or a thread started by a player I "know".

But Videoslots recently lowered the RTP on some games for some countries (to offset taxes by those countries) by around 2% from maybe 97% to 95%. Now a 2% drop in RTP may not sound like much, but if you continue to play the same game with the same bets, you are going to get almost 1/2 the playtime you used to. Now you might not notice in a session or two or ten, but you will at some point.

I too have health issues, and the comradery at 3Dice meant a lot to me, and qualifying to play tournaments gave me extended playtime.

The only reason I am not there still is I would have to deal with Bitcoin in order to still deposit there. I have other choices available to me.

I would not have played for as many years as I did if I thought the software was not random. But I am confident that they do not offer the highest paying slots online, but maybe higher than many others available to US players.

That said about the software, it does not mean all players receive identical perks or free chips.



Hi Jas nice to see you and thank you for the reply. I hope we both find some kind of luck with our illnesses and life in general. Did you try getting a broker to help with deposits there? Hope to see you back in chat because i know for myself it is mainly the only time i get to socialize . The work i do doesn't require more people so it is just me. I work , come home and deal with teenagers lol. I hope you have a great day ;) .


Ok i must admit since finding out about RTP i have been pondering it now. I said i had nothing else to contribute to this thread and i would not post again but after seeing big wins this morning from a hundred start balance i have a few questions. 1st is everyone's RTP the same or does it change often. 2nd is it possible to win big for months and years without the RTP changing? Also how do you know when your RTP is crap...do you feel it or is there a way to know? I do not know much about this subject and would like to educate myself more. For me once something is nagging at me i like to ask questions. Support at 3 dice was nice enough to help me yesterday with answering my questions. Like i said it was just from seeing the wins this morning that i started back to thinking on it. Last question :) ....is there anything a player can do to make their playtime or RTP better?
 
Hi Jas nice to see you and thank you for the reply. I hope we both find some kind of luck with our illnesses and life in general. Did you try getting a broker to help with deposits there? Hope to see you back in chat because i know for myself it is mainly the only time i get to socialize . The work i do doesn't require more people so it is just me. I work , come home and deal with teenagers lol. I hope you have a great day ;) .


Ok i must admit since finding out about RTP i have been pondering it now. I said i had nothing else to contribute to this thread and i would not post again but after seeing big wins this morning from a hundred start balance i have a few questions. 1st is everyone's RTP the same or does it change often. 2nd is it possible to win big for months and years without the RTP changing? Also how do you know when your RTP is crap...do you feel it or is there a way to know? I do not know much about this subject and would like to educate myself more. For me once something is nagging at me i like to ask questions. Support at 3 dice was nice enough to help me yesterday with answering my questions. Like i said it was just from seeing the wins this morning that i started back to thinking on it. Last question :) ....is there anything a player can do to make their playtime or RTP better?

Rena honestly I would highly suggest you play at slotocash a bit and here's a few reasons why ..

First of all I truly believe their rtp is just set a bit higher than most, I cashed out about 30k with them last year and that's not counting sessions I "should've" cashed out. Now ymmv but I think sloto is a good place to play for that reason alone

Also their cash back is imho the best around from what I've seen.. And the reason why is its only x10 playthru with "no" max cashout and no slot limitation.

They have decent bonuses as well if that's your thing
 
Rena honestly I would highly suggest you play at slotocash a bit and here's a few reasons why ..

First of all I truly believe their rtp is just set a bit higher than most, I cashed out about 30k with them last year and that's not counting sessions I "should've" cashed out. Now ymmv but I think sloto is a good place to play for that reason alone

Also their cash back is imho the best around from what I've seen.. And the reason why is its only x10 playthru with "no" max cashout and no slot limitation.

They have decent bonuses as well if that's your thing



I used to play at sloto during the time of paste and pay . In fact they were the first casino i cashed out from and the support is amazing. Also i did like the cash back on my deposits even if i only made one deposit i always got a treat. The only problem now is that i received a new pay pal card that will not link to my bit coin wallet (coin base). No help from coin base even after i sent an email. I saw a post a few months back where coin base was taking people's money from their bank accounts so i am afraid to link my bank card. I am to the point where after my birthday April 3rd i might close my 2 remaining accounts at 3 dice and Winaday (i cashed out there too, great group and very friendly)and take up reading again. I also like to write so that would be a stress free pass time. Just tired of having nagging questions and because every penny i spend i earn it is hard not to ask questions. The blissful world of never hearing what RTP was.
 
Ok i must admit since finding out about RTP i have been pondering it now. I said i had nothing else to contribute to this thread and i would not post again but after seeing big wins this morning from a hundred start balance i have a few questions. 1st is everyone's RTP the same or does it change often. 2nd is it possible to win big for months and years without the RTP changing? Also how do you know when your RTP is crap...do you feel it or is there a way to know? I do not know much about this subject and would like to educate myself more. For me once something is nagging at me i like to ask questions. Support at 3 dice was nice enough to help me yesterday with answering my questions. Like i said it was just from seeing the wins this morning that i started back to thinking on it. Last question :) ....is there anything a player can do to make their playtime or RTP better?

It's a bit tricky because there are two different things people are referring to when they say "RTP." (RTP stands for "return to player", just in case that was unknown.)

One is the "theoretical" RTP of a slot - that's the average payback you can expect before you play it. It gives you an idea of how expensive a game is to play, how much playtime you'll get, and to some degree, your chance of winning. Most slots at 3dice average about 96% RTP, but some are slightly better and some are slightly worse. I would call that about average for online, but these days it's actually probably a bit better than average, unfortunately, especially for the US.

In other words, if the "theoretical" RTP is 96%, and you play through $100, you'll get $96 back on average. But your true result won't be $96 - it could be $50 (a $50 loss,) it could be $125, it could be $500.

That true result is the other type of RTP people are referring to - your personal RTP from your previous play. So if you got $50 back on $100 of spins, that's a 50% RTP. If you got $500 back, that's a 500% RTP. Honestly your personal RTP doesn't matter much aside from allowing you to quantify just how unlucky/lucky you were. A 50% RTP in a single session is an unlucky session and means you busted pretty fast - you only played through your money twice before it was gone. A 98% RTP would mean you got a lot of playtime - you played through your deposit 50 times - but in the end you still lost. So in that case, is a 98% RTP lucky or unlucky? You got a lot of playtime, but in the end you lost. That would be in the eye of the beholder.

So to summarize, it's that theoretical/mathematical RTP that's the most important, and gives you a rough idea of which slots give you a fair chance. Unless a casino or slot provider is doing something really screwy behind the scenes, that theoretical RTP should pretty much stay the same over time.

But the "actual" RTP an individual player experiences lets them talk about their sessions, figure out how unlucky (or lucky) they got, and gives them a number to point at if they're convinced something unfair is going on.
 
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I honestly don't know what to think any more. At this point, it seems only high rollers can win. Max bet rollers, because I know a few peeps that go like $2 - $3 a spin and get zip. Sure there are the random low bet "miracles", but being a low roller, it's hard to even have fun or get any play time.

As far as "chat" being a perk, yes it can be fun, wtg's and nice win only goes so far. (to be honest, I feel a definite "chill" from people since you left, Shan. Because we are friends?)
Especially when you are playing the exact same slot as the big hits you see as "gold lines" but you can't win $1.00. You start wondering if "I cross my legs and fingers & stick out your tongue" maybe you can win too!

No, we don't know what "big winners'" deposit, cause we only see their wins, but come on, how many people get on a win roll for a month on end, and seems to never stop.

Ok, end rant..... save me a spot on your sofa! May be sitting this one out too!
 
:: pats cushions :: It's cozy and I can afford better cheese & (ahem) wine these days! Come visit. ;)

Yeah, there's just too much happening (or not happening) for it to've been "fun" for me anymore.

I am so sorry to hear you feel that chat has been different, that's a bummer.
 
But the "actual" RTP an individual player experiences lets them talk about their sessions, figure out how unlucky (or lucky) they got, and gives them a number to point at if they're convinced something unfair is going on.

And then there's those of us who think there's probably a third: The rtp your account is set to. I think it's "settable" and fluid, at that.
 
And then there's those of us who think there's probably a third: The rtp your account is set to. I think it's "settable" and fluid, at that.

Do you mean that you think you're set to a different expected RTP, but the results after that point will still be random? For example it would be like playing triple 0 roulette when everyone else is playing single 0 - still possible to win, but odds are against you. I would count that as a version of the first category, just that each player has their own separate "theoretical" RTP. (Which would be kind of a dirty trick, and if 3dice is doing that, would make them lying about the publicly listed RTPs.)

Or do you mean that the slots basically act as compensated, forcing you towards that specific RTP if you get too far away from it? I didn't cover compensated slots, they're kind of another thing altogether from random slots.

While in most cases I would think those things are unlikely, technically there's nothing really preventing a casino from doing them, so I'm not going to say they don't or can't happen, particularly in the unregulated US markets.
 
Do you mean that you think you're set to a different expected RTP, but the results after that point will still be random? For example it would be like playing triple 0 roulette when everyone else is playing single 0 - still possible to win, but odds are against you. I would count that as a version of the first category, just that each player has their own separate "theoretical" RTP. (Which would be kind of a dirty trick, and if 3dice is doing that, would make them lying about the publicly listed RTPs.)

Or do you mean that the slots basically act as compensated, forcing you towards that specific RTP if you get too far away from it? I didn't cover compensated slots, they're kind of another thing altogether from random slots.

While in most cases I would think those things are unlikely, technically there's nothing really preventing a casino from doing them, so I'm not going to say they don't or can't happen, particularly in the unregulated US markets.

I... hesitate to put it this baldly... but yes. I believe fully - FULLY - that the game rtps listed in the site's info pages are correct. Testable. Proven. (Though their testing was done a long, long time ago.)

But I believe that Person A doesn't have the same chance of winning as Person B. Why? Because our individual rtp's are able to be set. And they are. So.

Someone please PLEASE try to prove that negative, given the "license" and the direction the casino faces.
 
Hi weesie. Good to see you too.

I asked some questions in another thread about how expensive it is to change TRTP, and it is really really expensive. Basically, it is like designing a brand new slot. And we all know how long a new release takes. Now, maybe 3Dice's design team is small and doesn't cost as much as some, but we are talking way more than 100K. And they would have to put every player on a different server to offer different players different TRTPs.

Now, that is not to say that none of the slots have ever been lowered, but they would have to swap it out with nobody on the game. If site is down for upgrades or maintenace, that would be the time.

What can be done is new releases being lower to begin with.

And you do not know what a player is spending. I could win 2500, and just keep playing until it was gone.

I haven't reviewed their loyalty terms lately, but yes, Gold has it privileges, but your play needs to be pretty high to get it.

As for getting more playtime, try playing Video Poker. As far as I know, the suggested hold cards are correct strategy. There was a lot of discussion a few years ago, and one or two errors were fixed, and Enzo showed the math why some others people questioned were correct. You can visit a site like Wizard of Odds and there are TRTPs for all kinds of different VPs, because they do not all have same paytables. You can also find out Keno odds too. Do they still offer that? That usually doesn't have the best TRTP (don't play max numbers, it might happen once a year at a vegas casino), but it is slow to play. Table games and video poker are not the same for wagering, you would need to check that yourself.

The Wheel of Fortune games use part of the base game (and wheel) RTP to fund the jackpot. So it's a poor value when it has just been reset, and at some point when it goes over a certain amount, it is in favour of the player. Doesn't mean you will win it, and I don't know what that point is either. But if it is unusually high, good time to play. Flo and Martin always hit them pretty heavy when they were. I might too, at least as much as I could, but never did hit one.

There is also variance. Some slots can give huge wins, but is harder to get a bonus round, or there is almost nothing unless you get a bonus round. Others hit the bonus more often, but you will not get some 3000x bet ever, but you will get smaller, keep you going kind of wins too.

When you do hit a bonus round, throw your hands in the air, and sing at least some of We are the Champions at the top of your lungs before pressing spin. This will not improve your luck, but will take a bit of time (and slow your play). Releases endorphins too. It also has the added perk of annoying your teenagers, lol. They already think you are crazy, ha ha.

The other way to increase your playtime is to bet smaller. 9 cent squirrels, less lines on payola or tut etc.

When you do win and throw a tourney, don't go overboard. I used to call it "tithing". Mine always cost me double, because I always would give my kid at least that much. Or host some kind of chat contest instead. These can be fun for you to do, and take a bit of your time away from the slots. They don't have to be big, people love games, and any chance to win a bit of money. Sometimes I wouldn't even be winning, but I could have more fun with $5 for 15 or 20 minutes than I was having in real. Were you ever there for Win Jazzy's Money? I'd ask "who wants to win my money". I'd pick the first 5 people that said me, or I'd ask for people to wave, or something like that. Then I would have each of them pick a way for me to bet $1, or $2. So for instance, if it was $2, I would split what ever was left after $10 worth of bets between those five people, up to a maximum of say $25, in case I got a big hit. If I won nothing, no one got anything. If I only had a couple of bucks, I would do some kind of tiebreaker, or give it to the player that got me the biggest win. There is probably still the template for hangman still, that's a good one to play too.

Tell everyone Jazzy says hi.
 
Jasmine, I hate so say this... I don't believe it works that way anymore.

I believe it used to. But the "platform" changed and everything changed.

The new platform definitely... Is different. No one wants to say it out loud, but it's different.

And has nothing to do with how much one puts in. If one deposits $500 and hits 500x within minutes, that "should" be no different than someone putting $30 in, and hitting $150 within minutes betting .30.. all things being equal. Right?

So, why isn't it? Listen, I don't want to be uncool... But I've seen the chat since I've left. I've had pm convos with those trying to say "oh, she's nuts." They're hoping they'll get an RTP break.... But in PM's? They know whatsw up.
 
I... hesitate to put it this baldly... but yes. I believe fully - FULLY - that the game rtps listed in the site's info pages are correct. Testable. Proven. (Though their testing was done a long, long time ago.)

But I believe that Person A doesn't have the same chance of winning as Person B. Why? Because our individual rtp's are able to be set. And they are. So.

Someone please PLEASE try to prove that negative, given the "license" and the direction the casino faces.

It would be far simpler to give big depositors more bonuses. This doesn't change the RTP of the games, but does keep high roller's happier. So I deposit 100 a day, and never ever withdraw. I always up my bets and keep on playing. Won't cost the casino much to give me a bonus. Besides the RTP, there is the "hold" too. This is how much the casino keeps, because most people won't for example deposit So let's say I deposit $10,000 in a year, and withdraw $8,000. The casino hold is $2,000 for my account. I could still have a personal RTP of 95%, I made way more that 10,000 worth of bets with my deposits.

Player B deposits $5200. But they play until $1000 or bust. They only hit twice, and withdrew a total of $2200. The hold was $3000, for that player. Player B might even have a personal RTP of 97%, but they just played way more that player A, blowing back balances Player A might have withdrawn.

Player C is a whale. Their pockets are deep. They deposit 100,000, and even withdraw 92,000. They have a hold of 8K. The casino can easily give them 3K in bonuses and still make money.

Everyone is playing at the same TRTP.

And that TRTP is over million of spins.

But if you think a place is rigged, not playing there is the answer.

BTW, I do like Slotocash. They are RTG now, at one point they were Rival. The bonuses are sticky though.

I always liked Inetbet. The bonuses could be converted to cash, and the wagering was fair. You do need to make some non bonus deposits too, especially if you win on a bonus. I have stopped playing everywhere that I have to play is USD though, because our Canadian dollar has been in the toilet for a long time.

There is a US version of CM if anyone did not know.

P
 
I have only played a couple of times on the new platform. I think I did mention maintenance or an upgrade was a good time to drop TRTP. They had to redesign the slots anyway. I wan't going to open bitcoin just so I could play 3Dice.

It's not impossible to have higher denominations pay higher in land based. This might be easiest on the Wheel Slots however, as you actually enter a different game.

The old 3Dice never listed TRTPs as far as I recall. If there has been no testing, there is nothing to say they are true I am sad to say. I'm not saying they are.

If you drop a slot's RTP by 2%, you only get about half the playtime. Doesn't mean it is not random anymore, just that it pays less on a long term basis.

Just heard today Pennsylvania is opening an online casino, and they will have NetEnt slots! Anyone feel like moving, lol.
 
Hi weesie. Good to see you too.

I asked some questions in another thread about how expensive it is to change TRTP, and it is really really expensive. Basically, it is like designing a brand new slot. And we all know how long a new release takes. Now, maybe 3Dice's design team is small and doesn't cost as much as some, but we are talking way more than 100K. And they would have to put every player on a different server to offer different players different TRTPs.

Now, that is not to say that none of the slots have ever been lowered, but they would have to swap it out with nobody on the game. If site is down for upgrades or maintenace, that would be the time.

What can be done is new releases being lower to begin with.

And you do not know what a player is spending. I could win 2500, and just keep playing until it was gone.

I haven't reviewed their loyalty terms lately, but yes, Gold has it privileges, but your play needs to be pretty high to get it.

As for getting more playtime, try playing Video Poker. As far as I know, the suggested hold cards are correct strategy. There was a lot of discussion a few years ago, and one or two errors were fixed, and Enzo showed the math why some others people questioned were correct. You can visit a site like Wizard of Odds and there are TRTPs for all kinds of different VPs, because they do not all have same paytables. You can also find out Keno odds too. Do they still offer that? That usually doesn't have the best TRTP (don't play max numbers, it might happen once a year at a vegas casino), but it is slow to play. Table games and video poker are not the same for wagering, you would need to check that yourself.

The Wheel of Fortune games use part of the base game (and wheel) RTP to fund the jackpot. So it's a poor value when it has just been reset, and at some point when it goes over a certain amount, it is in favour of the player. Doesn't mean you will win it, and I don't know what that point is either. But if it is unusually high, good time to play. Flo and Martin always hit them pretty heavy when they were. I might too, at least as much as I could, but never did hit one.

There is also variance. Some slots can give huge wins, but is harder to get a bonus round, or there is almost nothing unless you get a bonus round. Others hit the bonus more often, but you will not get some 3000x bet ever, but you will get smaller, keep you going kind of wins too.

When you do hit a bonus round, throw your hands in the air, and sing at least some of We are the Champions at the top of your lungs before pressing spin. This will not improve your luck, but will take a bit of time (and slow your play). Releases endorphins too. It also has the added perk of annoying your teenagers, lol. They already think you are crazy, ha ha.

The other way to increase your playtime is to bet smaller. 9 cent squirrels, less lines on payola or tut etc.

When you do win and throw a tourney, don't go overboard. I used to call it "tithing". Mine always cost me double, because I always would give my kid at least that much. Or host some kind of chat contest instead. These can be fun for you to do, and take a bit of your time away from the slots. They don't have to be big, people love games, and any chance to win a bit of money. Sometimes I wouldn't even be winning, but I could have more fun with $5 for 15 or 20 minutes than I was having in real. Were you ever there for Win Jazzy's Money? I'd ask "who wants to win my money". I'd pick the first 5 people that said me, or I'd ask for people to wave, or something like that. Then I would have each of them pick a way for me to bet $1, or $2. So for instance, if it was $2, I would split what ever was left after $10 worth of bets between those five people, up to a maximum of say $25, in case I got a big hit. If I won nothing, no one got anything. If I only had a couple of bucks, I would do some kind of tiebreaker, or give it to the player that got me the biggest win. There is probably still the template for hangman still, that's a good one to play too.

Tell everyone Jazzy says hi.


Hi Jas, yes, I read that thread about rigged slots. That's not where I am at the moment. More of a "I can't win for nothing" frame of mind. I do check zeit often but that is really not a fair review of what games are hot because one person hits big and then it shows red hot on the chart. So not a true representation IMO.

Anyway, thank you for your thoughts!
 
I have only played a couple of times on the new platform. I think I did mention maintenance or an upgrade was a good time to drop TRTP. They had to redesign the slots anyway. I wan't going to open bitcoin just so I could play 3Dice.

It's not impossible to have higher denominations pay higher in land based. This might be easiest on the Wheel Slots however, as you actually enter a different game.

The old 3Dice never listed TRTPs as far as I recall. If there has been no testing, there is nothing to say they are true I am sad to say. I'm not saying they are.

If you drop a slot's RTP by 2%, you only get about half the playtime. Doesn't mean it is not random anymore, just that it pays less on a long term basis.

Just heard today Pennsylvania is opening an online casino, and they will have NetEnt slots! Anyone feel like moving, lol.

I live in PA :cool: so whats up with netent, good slots?
 
Hi weesie. Good to see you too.

I asked some questions in another thread about how expensive it is to change TRTP, and it is really really expensive. Basically, it is like designing a brand new slot. And we all know how long a new release takes. Now, maybe 3Dice's design team is small and doesn't cost as much as some, but we are talking way more than 100K. And they would have to put every player on a different server to offer different players different TRTPs.

I think you're overestimating the difficulty of doing this - TRP can easily be changed by adding a few low paying symbols to the reels in most cases. It may take a lot of time and money for the big providers because they want to do everything in their power to make their slots as engaging as possible, hitting the exact amount of big wins, balance preserving small wins, near misses, features etc to keep people entertained and spinning. But throwing a couple of extra tens or jacks on the reels accomplishes the same thing. Or reducing the value of "pick" bonus features would be trivial and basically undetectable. Weighting the reels so wilds hit very slightly less is another trivial and nearly invisible way of doing that and would allow you to make several pretty quickly.

Actually serving the different games to players would be a bit more difficult, but I don't think it would be anything as hard as each player having their own server. Would probably just have to fetch which weighted reel set the player is assigned to before grabbing the random number and sending the result. Another couple of steps, but doesn't seem too difficult unless there's something that complicates it I don't know of.

Not saying they do these things, just that they probably could if they wanted to, and if they were careful, it would be hard to detect.
 
I live in PA :cool: so whats up with netent, good slots?

They're pretty good compared to most U.S. offerings I would say, though it's been several years since I played them for money. Some people say they've declined in quality since then, but a lot of the old stuff is still available, and the graphics and presentation quality are going to be way better than most online slots we have access to.

I'd definitely trade pretty much any provider available to the U.S. for netent if it were possible.
 
Fantastic... go look at some of the winning screenshots. Dead or Alive can pay big on very small bets, but that means some eat you alive sessions too. I know you seem to enjoy the higher variance ones. I expect that RTPs will be same as online, 96 to 97. Creature from the Black Lagoon is another one. They pulled out of Canada quite a while back. Oh, and Reel Steel and Piggy Riches, and Flowers, and Jack and the Beanstalk, Gonzo's Quest. Not sure exactly what titles they will carry. Haven't played any of the newer ones of course.

There is even a big thread here Last Night on Dead or Alive.
 
Fantastic... go look at some of the winning screenshots. Dead or Alive can pay big on very small bets, but that means some eat you alive sessions too. I know you seem to enjoy the higher variance ones. I expect that RTPs will be same as online, 96 to 97. Creature from the Black Lagoon is another one. They pulled out of Canada quite a while back. Oh, and Reel Steel and Piggy Riches, and Flowers, and Jack and the Beanstalk, Gonzo's Quest. Not sure exactly what titles they will carry. Haven't played any of the newer ones of course.

There is even a big thread here Last Night on Dead or Alive.

Sounds cool Jasmine, I'm actually pretty excited now!
 
Well, the news about NetEnt was just out today, just signed a deal, and the legislation is pretty new. Not sure if the casino has actually launched, probably not if the deal was just signed.

Delaware, Nevada and New Jersey all have online in their states. I know New Jersey you can play if you are in New Jersey, you don't need to be a resident, and I think, but not certain, that is true for Nevada too.

NetEnt Awarded Pennsylvania License

There are also links on the US site for the legal casinos. You can go have a look at what they offer. If you get room offers from Atlantic City, you could probably just hang out in your hotel room and play, lol. Babs still playing 3Dice? I think she has played while in Atlantic City.
 
Well, the news about NetEnt was just out today, just signed a deal, and the legislation is pretty new. Not sure if the casino has actually launched, probably not if the deal was just signed.

Delaware, Nevada and New Jersey all have online in their states. I know New Jersey you can play if you are in New Jersey, you don't need to be a resident, and I think, but not certain, that is true for Nevada too.

NetEnt Awarded Pennsylvania License

There are also links on the US site for the legal casinos. You can go have a look at what they offer. If you get room offers from Atlantic City, you could probably just hang out in your hotel room and play, lol. Babs still playing 3Dice? I think she has played while in Atlantic City.

Looks like it says bout mid 2019 they'll be up hopefully... That's just cool to play new games. Always heard about that Dead or Alive and been wanting to play it
 
It looks like bovada/ignition group has pulled out of a few regulated states, so the tradeoff is they may pull out of PA eventually as well. Most RTG casinos will probably stick around, though.

If you're looking for more game providers to try that serve the US, another option is vegas crest - they have a few that others don't. I wouldn't want to strongly recommend them in case something goes wrong but I haven't seen people having any major problems with them.
 
It looks like bovada/ignition group has pulled out of a few regulated states, so the tradeoff is they may pull out of PA eventually as well. Most RTG casinos will probably stick around, though.

If you're looking for more game providers to try that serve the US, another option is vegas crest - they have a few that others don't. I wouldn't want to strongly recommend them in case something goes wrong but I haven't seen people having any major problems with them.

Oh shit wait bovada might not be playable for pa?
 
Oh shit wait bovada might not be playable for pa?

Not saying it will for sure just it might happen down the line. Here's the current list: "Use of the website and associated services are expressly prohibited from the following states: DE, MD, NJ, NV."

So looks like some regulated states have lost access. If they do pull the cord, no idea when they'll do it.
 
Not saying it will for sure just it might happen down the line. Here's the current list: "Use of the website and associated services are expressly prohibited from the following states: DE, MD, NJ, NV."

So looks like some regulated states have lost access. If they do pull the cord, no idea when they'll do it.

Man Id be devastated
 
Fantastic... go look at some of the winning screenshots. Dead or Alive can pay big on very small bets, but that means some eat you alive sessions too. I know you seem to enjoy the higher variance ones. I expect that RTPs will be same as online, 96 to 97. Creature from the Black Lagoon is another one. They pulled out of Canada quite a while back. Oh, and Reel Steel and Piggy Riches, and Flowers, and Jack and the Beanstalk, Gonzo's Quest. Not sure exactly what titles they will carry. Haven't played any of the newer ones of course.

There is even a big thread here Last Night on Dead or Alive.

Jasmine, remember, we're fubared here. No regulations, no licenses, nothing.
 
I think some people who read this thread are comparing the slots at other casinos that are not USA friendly and is regulated which is a big difference. Also i feel some people who view this thread might remember the old 3 dice which was a great casino and i loved it. I complained about that casino too in my new days but hey...i used to like to complain, stone me for it. I did post about some people liking drama a few posts back and low and behold i saw a post a couple of days ago in main chat that this thread was started. I feel (mind you just my opinion) it is a basic troll to come to CM when you claim you do not like it here just to make someone uncomfortable to post their experience at any casino. I know me myself come often to CM because i like reading the posts and sometimes comment on them. I know i am doomed to cowboy land , wild west shoot out but i do enjoy reading the posts. As far as trance monkey's posts i do not think he is talking about the casinos who accept USA because it is different for us. In short like i posted above....i am almost to the end of my ride. I have seen other threads on USA facing casinos but never paid them much mind. This thread had me thinking a lot and i hate that. Sometimes ignorance is bliss which i have said before. I also have said i can not or will not attempt to make any comments about other peoples play and accounts but i am thinking i have been a fool and i do not like that feeling. Winning is winning losing fair and square does not bother me one bit (of course i am human and complain about my losses like a lot of us do). This feels different ....Thinking....... Side note * (i love side notes so much) I can not control who comes to CM or who posts what at 3 dice or anywhere else for that matter to each their own. It just bothered me to do so to garner some kind of reaction from people for the wrong reason. Being an Aries(let's blame it on the stars) i tend to stand up for my friends and people who i feel are wrongly targeted. People who know me from any forum knows this to be true. In closing you can lead a horse to water....and such. Thinking what should i do as far as how i feel now.... Determined that this is my last post. Nothing i say or others can change anything. All it does i feel is make some believe it is a sore loser's thread. Maybe i am a sore loser but i know my personal experience and no one can change what i experienced . Thinking.....
 
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It looks like bovada/ignition group has pulled out of a few regulated states, so the tradeoff is they may pull out of PA eventually as well. Most RTG casinos will probably stick around, though.

If you're looking for more game providers to try that serve the US, another option is vegas crest - they have a few that others don't. I wouldn't want to strongly recommend them in case something goes wrong but I haven't seen people having any major problems with them.

They are great and have the most games to play. But they take a week to pay
 
Said i would not post again...shoot me :laugh:... Whatever is going on with their loyalty and how its decided is beyond me. Played over 2000 in the last month and a half alone...won about 800 and down to silver 2 from silver 4 :eek2: . 5 months of losing to get that small bit. I was told i was at a 100% RTP ...i don't know about that and i was also chat banned for ...... ok as if i care. I don't chat much anymore anyways. I have pay pal receipts to prove how much i have been playing. If it goes by play time and luck, how the heck did i get down to silver 2? To whom ever watches the thread and goes back to report my post like a good little lappy i don't care about that either. Whoever said cult is about right. Chat went down for hours and people were frantic :D. If you think this post is about losing you don't know me at all. This post is about loyalty and i have seen a lot of people trying to figure out how the heck it is figured.
 
I don’t like their loyalty program. It feels like it’s just a way to trap people into gambling. Every single person shows up to play at a minimum 3 times a month. And if you dont show up and deposit your loyalty will drop. I also feel like they keep changing things to make it harder to win. Wagering on achievement awards to locking Rainy Day funds when you have a pending withdrawal.

It just seems they don’t make many changes that benefit the player absent the lowering of the whale requirements.

I don’t blame them though. They are running a casino and their goal is to get our money while providing entertainment. I love their games but haven’t been getting much entertainment value lately. For me personally I don’t care about the loyalty program. Most sites never lower your loyalty and the only reason they do so is to keep us playing.

I just want to buy in and play and get the occasional deposit bonus. I wish they offered more deposit bonuses so I could play longer. That’s really my only complaint.

Everything else I posted is not a complaint! I like their site and understand why they do what they do. I choose to play because it’s generally fun. I have noticed the community is not what it was a few months ago however.

I am not going to make any accusations but I have noticed some people seem to win more than most. I assume they just play a lot more since they are the higest loyalty levels. I dunno.

I wont be quitting playing at 3dice but I won’t be around as much since my luck is better elsewhere. Anyways, good luck everyone:)
 
Yeah I really hate their loyalty setup as well. I'm the kind of person who might play a lot for a few days or weeks and then just spontaneously quit for a while - could be months, even longer. Just sometimes take a break from things and then it keeps going before eventually coming back. So basically that means any time I'd think of playing I'd be at the lowest possible VIP level - not that the rewards I've received have ever been particularly impressive - like the deposit bonuses offered won't even add up to 10% of the amount I deposited.

It does feel a bit predatory to force people to play that frequently to maintain loyalty - i could understand monthly but more frequent than that seems a bit much.

I guess one thing in their favor though is that they don't load down the deposit bonuses they do offer with a lot of restrictions, so those who hate having to read through a bunch of terms don't have much to worry about there.
 
I am self excluding myself from 3 dice until August 3rd 2019. I think i have had enough. I finally have had enough. It took years to get to this point. The only casino i play at daily and i feel sad in a way but i know it is for the best. There was a very disrespectful guest that came into 3 dice chat and said some very harsh things. The thing he/she said about the slots did hit home though. Am i wasting my life daily just to chase a 10 tourney win that 99% of the time leave you chasing another tourney win because you spend 2 min in real. At least that is how it went for me. No and no i did not lose more then i could afford to play. Just tired of seeing the same winners and new players winning thousands(but you are not allowed to comment on it) . I am selling my laptop so i will not be around for a while. I might be back but i am unsure if i will ever go back. Good luck to us poor USA players may luck come sooner rather then later :cheers:
 

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