Had Enough, I give up

[catrina m]

I surrender

I keep hoping for the win that makes all this worth it but I realize it will never happen.

If I win, I give it back ( be honest, who doesn't eventually) and when I lose I figure I have had bad luck. Ouch!

I have to be very unlucky or just plain stupid to keep giving my money away. I am opting for stupid because thats what I must be to keep doing it.

I know you can win at online gambling, doesn't everyone? It's a surefire way to make a quick buck!


I will continue to read about everyone's good fortune, but they have taken my last deposit. I am not a problem gambler. I only risk what I have to be entertained with, but I think I will seek better entertainment than watching my balance dissappear and then getting a prompt to go to the cashier.

If I gave it to someone in dire need that I never met before I would feel better the next day.

That sounds better than getting spam about how I can win, win win!!!!

Good luck everyone!

Not bitter, just utterly defeated.

 

[KasinoKing]

When it stops being profitable, fun, or even mildly entertaining, it is time to take a break.
Shoving hard earned money down the drain is unlikely to be anybodies cup of tea.

Good luck with your abstention

KK

 

[Matthew23]

catrina m, I understand that feeling so much

Your experience with gambling is not unique, it's the same for everyone of us. Everyone will have the same good/bad luck, it will just appear that people win more based on how they present themselves on these forums. We are always heading towards a zero balance, hitting the feature just delays this a little.

There are far better hobbies out there. With gambling you will always experience lows, like you are feeling right now. Just remember how you feel right now and remember if you continue to gambling you will have this feeling many more times in the future. It's not a nice thought.

When it stops being profitable

Gambling will never be profitable.... unless you can defy the laws of mathematics

 

[SlotsWizard]

Gambling will never be profitable.... unless you can defy the laws of mathematics

... or use bonuses in the opposite spirit that they were given
... or you work for the casino



Good luck to you, Catrina!

 

[Matthew23]

use bonuses in the opposite spirit that they were given

Yes, but do that once and you'll be banned and perhaps not even paid.

Even a standard deposit bonus usually carries such hugh wagering requirments that you will on average lose more than the bonus is worth. All a bonus really does is extend your 'play time'

 

[Roar]

... or use bonuses in the opposite spirit that they were given
... or you work for the casino

Bonuses can not be given in "spirit". If the so called spirit is that the customer is in no way meant to profit than just where is the "give", and just where is the "bonus"?

Just about every single bonus is advertised as "free cash" to put into your pocket. The so called "spirit" of bonuses must be understood from the attending bonus promotion. [It's cash profits for players all the way baby!!]

Such bonus promotions convey the unmistakable message that there is a PROFIT to be made from the receipt of a bonus.

Bonus "spirit" = the opportunity to profit.

But let's be clear - there ain't no "spirit" in a bonus (unless you believe in ghosts).

Catrina m would not have suffered a loss (overall) using a bonus. On that Slots Wizard, I know we agree.

If one is truly to advocate on behalf of players then one must surely start and end with the plea to always play with a bonus. PLAY with a BONUS or simply lose more and more cash to greedy corporates and ever greedy affiliates.

/

 

[SlotsWizard]

I wasn't trying to start a flamewar.

---

Back to the topic at hand: Catrina, enjoy the break.

 

[chuchu59]

Yes, but do that once and you'll be banned and perhaps not even paid.

Even a standard deposit bonus usually carries such hugh wagering requirments that you will on average lose more than the bonus is worth. All a bonus really does is extend your 'play time'

If you have had enough, isnt trying to be banned the ultimate goal. You wont be losing anymore

 

[Matthew23]

If you have had enough, isnt trying to be banned the ultimate goal. You wont be losing anymore

If you are banned because you broke the rules then you will lose even more money. The best thing to do is email the casino and tell them to permanently close your account and not to open it again under any circumstances.

You don't have to break the rules to get permanently banned

 

[KasinoKing]

Gambling will never be profitable.... unless you can defy the laws of mathematics

If that's true I've been defying the laws for 7-years.

Yes, but do that once and you'll be banned and perhaps not even paid.

I have been 'bonus banned' at 1 or 2 casinos from 130+, but always got paid.

Even a standard deposit bonus usually carries such huge wagering requirements that you will on average lose more than the bonus is worth. All a bonus really does is extend your 'play time'

On average (most bonuses), yes I agree. But as long as your above average results outweigh your below average results you'll be quids in.

I have no wish to de-rail this thread any further - this is about someone stopping gambling.
Bonus 'hunting' does not suit everyone, and if you're not even getting value for your money... stop!

 

[Matthew23]

I agree, let's not de-rail this thread.

KK, I sent you a PM

 

[lauram]

I know the feeling kat about a month ago it stopped being FUN. So for few
weeks i stopped playing. Laughing at myself here i made a deposit into clubworld
well i played that deposit for days was just 20 i hit so many free spins retrigered and had a bunch of us around watching me. Now that was fun for me. Past few weeks i kept a log on deposits and found that on the ones i took a bonus with
never got any cash returned to me. Now last 9 deposits i have 7 withdraws
1 im still playing and one i busted. Once its not fun its like opening up the van window and tossing your money out on that highway as most of us know that big one will never hit us. How many times do we spin again and again in rtg
thinking the bell will go and rj will be ours. Im not holding my breath on that
but for now its fun again and ill stay next week maybe ill stop again.
GOOD LUCK feeling will pass hun hang in there.

 

[BingoT]

Hi Catrina
All I want to say to you that I wish you the very best.
Good Luck to ya.
B-T

 

[BigJock]

Let's not kid ourselves...Limiting our deposit options isn't cutting down on gambling. We either take it serious and STOP or admit we have a problem. There is nothing wrong with completely walking away from it. Gamblock is an excellent program to buy for about $30. It will assure you that your gambling days on that computer is over with. Trust me, you're not missing a damn thing by not being apart of the gambling community. Go join your local G.A meetings. There are lots of people just like you and I there to support you. Don't just sit at your computer and donate to these online bookie. There was a reason why GW Bush signed that anti-gaming law. Alot of Americans who quit when the law was passed. Have saved themselves alot of sorrow. If you are truely tired. GIVE IT UP and get HELP! People will help you if you let them.

 

[babs7262]

Hi Catrina
Im sorry your having such bad run. A break is a good idea at this point. I just started working out in the mornings and feel better

 

[1819]

Let's not kid ourselves...Limiting our deposit options isn't cutting down on gambling. We either take it serious and STOP or admit we have a problem. There is nothing wrong with completely walking away from it. Gamblock is an excellent program to buy for about $30. It will assure you that your gambling days on that computer is over with. Trust me, you're not missing a damn thing by not being apart of the gambling community. Go join your local G.A meetings. There are lots of people just like you and I there to support you. Don't just sit at your computer and donate to these online bookie. There was a reason why GW Bush signed that anti-gaming law. Alot of Americans who quit when the law was passed. Have saved themselves alot of sorrow. If you are truely tired. GIVE IT UP and get HELP! People will help you if you let them.

great advice and i agree with you but......to say that bush signed an anti gaming law to protect us is abserd. that is another debate. to make this thread political is not right. best of luck to you catrina...

 

[bb28]

Let's just take Cartrina's statement for what she said. We shouldn't go reading things into it and adding things that she didn't say or take this opportunity to get on our soapbox about the issues. It's not the time to for that. She said she is not a problem gambler, she is just fed up with throwing her money away.

Let's just wish her the best and let her know we understand where she is coming from and I do understand Cartrina.

BB

 

[LaurieJim]

Let's just take Cartrina's statement for what she said. We shouldn't go reading things into it and adding things that she didn't say or take this opportunity to get on our soapbox about the issues. It's not the time to for that. She said she is not a problem gambler, she is just fed up with throwing her money away.

Let's just wish her the best and let her know we understand where she is coming from and I do understand Cartrina.

BB

...........couldnt have said it better bb, i wish catrina all the best as im sure we have all thought the same thing at one time or another...........laurie

 

[james01]

that's why I play for free 90% of the time. I like to see what happens in the statistics and look at the different games and stuff. I never liked the losing money part, and I've never had any good wins. So basically, I mostly play for free, use free bonuses or whatever, and don't even bother to deposit most of the time.

 

[silcnlayc]

If I gave it to someone in dire need that I never met before I would feel better the next day.

Funny you should mention this...since the UIGEA, I have completly stopped playing slots online..I go to the B&M casinos now every few months for an overnight visit and I have so much more money and feel so much better knowing I am not dumping money arbitrarily into these casinos that I have found myself tipping the girl in the bathroom a lot more..and because I know I am there to have a great time and I will blow what I have, I also figure why not share the wealth while I am up in winnings..the drink girl and snack bar help always gets more from me now too..

And I feel a lot better knowing they can use it better than the casinos online that have tightened up so much (I found this out on my last venture into online gaming which actually helped me quit)that it is truly no fun anymore playing online and they do not deserve funds (our money) this way from anyone...

 

[suzecat]

Wierd wierd wierd............that's how I feel about giving away money to any casino.......from the number of winner screenies (or lack thereof) one would have to believe there really is a "win" switch.........and it's been in the off mode for awhile!

 

[LaHutti]

Good for you Catrina.

I surrendered myself a while back, when I FINALLY realized that all of these (certainly the ones I've been in....every single one of them.) casinos are nothing but thieves and cheaters.
They cheat, and they lie, and they'll come up with any stupid excuse not to pay, should you be so extremely lucky to EVER be in a position, where you can actually withdraw some of your own money.
And to top it off, they'll "offer" bonuses, that if they didn't cheat, they would all go bankrupt within a week.
From my experience ... the more they "offer", the less you'll ever "win".
Take Playtech group, Vegas red, Tropez, Bellini, Cameo and more...
They "offer" you 300% bonuses to sign up at their "sister" casinos, (now sister casinos is a fun term, given that the support people in all these casinos are the same people, and they will generously "upgrade your account" in ANY of the other so called "sister casinos", so that your play time will be extended, at best, by half an hour...your outcome however will always be the same....you end up with ZERO) and it's guaranteed ... you will never EVER be over your initial deposit + bonus, once wagering requirements are met ... EVER! You will be very CLOSE to your initial deposit + bonus, but ALWAYS be under, still they make you belive that just one win, and you can actually cash out....it'll never come, and if it does...remember that they'll steal back the "bonus" you got....that's not payable. Actually I've come to believe, that the whole Bonus circus is actually what they live off ... try telling them, that you don't want a bouns, and that you'd like more comp points instead ... I tried that, and they almost laughed me out of town.
I challenge ANYONE to show me play records that show a net outcome from ANY of these casinos after taking their "generous offers" of 300% "bonuses".
So yes...they cheat, and they lie to you, and their games are rigged in the worst way, so that their "progressive Jackpots" will look really really nice...think about it....with people playing 300% bonuses, that get these jackpots up, and with a payout percentage overall at say .. .90% ... how mutch is left to win in regular game play ? Please don't even MENTION the words Random number generator...it just makes me laugh too hard.
But the support people are REALLY nice, and they're all girls called Barbara, Michelle, or Chantanelle, and they'll call you "dear", at least if you're a guy ... whatever JOHN....get a job .
I really need to have truly, independant people look really deep into these casinos, and tell people how it REALLY works, before I put another cent into ANY of them, and that goes for the lot of them.
I've failed to find ANY "winner screenshots" from these casinos as of yet, except for my own ... now this "win" was from BEFORE I was even CLOSE to meeting the wagering requirements, and the final result....guess
The only time I ever had a cashout was the very first time I played in Vegas Red, and it was a very modest one, believe me.
So you're making a wise decision in not feeding them any more...let them WORK to get their mercedes, like honest people do....don't give it to them, and certainly don't let them steal it from you

 

[Rusty]

Hope you feel better for that LaHutti

All the very best for the future Catrina.

 

[ballysdb]

Good luck Catrina.

I agree that when it stops being fun or entertaining it's time for a break.

Say I deposit $20 and I get 10 or 15 minutes of play and no bonuses, I don't feel I've gotten my moneys worth. Sometimes that $20 lasts an hour or so and you a least get to have some excitement. Then when the moneys gone I still feel like it was entertaining.

 

[reda]

yes we have all been there. i decided about a month ago to only dep about once a week and it was in the amount of 25 to 50 dollars or so. then i would take a bonus with a no max cashout limit and hope for the good. even though i didnt win i got to play a little longer and when i lost i didnt feel as bad because i cut my deposit down by a few hundred. i was going thru so much money. it was bad. and when it hit me that s when i said i have to fix this problem,. its really hard to stop until it hits you and you know for yourself that you need to stop . i was so sick at myself for spending that much. im really good with money and finances, but gambling made me lose the meaning of a dollar. anyway i had read posts about people quitting and i said yeah right like you can really do that. but then when i was so disgusted with my self did i understand that yes i can set my limits but i was only able to do that when i had truly had enough, i didnt go cold tukrkey because i still play a couple times a week but i have control again of my spending. so what if i lose 25 to 50 dollars per week now then so what if thats all i spend as a past time then im doing good. its the 1.000 and 600.00 at a time that was getting me in big trouble.

 

[Roar]

Let's just take Cartrina's statement for what she said. We shouldn't go reading things into it and adding things that she didn't say or take this opportunity to get on our soapbox about the issues. It's not the time to for that. She said she is not a problem gambler, she is just fed up with throwing her money away.

Let's just wish her the best and let her know we understand where she is coming from and I do understand Cartrina.

BB

IMHO you have got this terribly wrong - either that or you couldn't give a frig about another human being.

The OP is a plea for help. She stands in the midst of supposed veteran online players (mostly affiliates), bonuses coming at her left, right and centre and after 200 posts to this Forum crumbles into a whaling whining mess about flushing her dough down the dunny!

This is not the time for back-slapping. Passing on condolences is highly inappropriate.

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

And you got a problem and posting here is not the answer to your problem.

You're not getting the sympathy you crave from me. Just the truth.

I'm your friend. Believe it!

.

 

[lauram]

IMHO you have got this terribly wrong - either that or you couldn't give a frig about another human being.

The OP is a plea for help. She stands in the midst of supposed veteran online players (mostly affiliates), bonuses coming at her left, right and centre and after 200 posts to this Forum crumbles into a whaling whining mess about flushing her dough down the dunny!

This is not the time for back-slapping. Passing on condolences is highly inappropriate.

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

And you got a problem and posting here is not the answer to your problem.

You're not getting the sympathy you crave from me. Just the truth.

I'm your friend. Believe it!

.

This is a forum to express our feelings and concerns even personal issues.
Most of us i think have been there done that and if this is what this lil lady wants and the support from long time friends on here thats what she is going to get. If you didnt like what you read then fine thats your opinion but the name calling was very uncalled for. If you need to chat cat we are still here for you dont let one person upset your day, you know whats best for you and also know there is lots of help if you do need it.

all the best
hugzzzz
laura

 

[bb28]

And who made you the appointed one to decide what people say is not what they really mean? Do you know Catrina? Do you know me? Unless you do.....you have no right to come down on someone like that. It's not your place!

Your post shows how rude and thoughtless you are, you are no friend!

IMHO you have got this terribly wrong - either that or you couldn't give a frig about another human being.

The OP is a plea for help. She stands in the midst of supposed veteran online players (mostly affiliates), bonuses coming at her left, right and centre and after 200 posts to this Forum crumbles into a whaling whining mess about flushing her dough down the dunny!

This is not the time for back-slapping. Passing on condolences is highly inappropriate.

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

And you got a problem and posting here is not the answer to your problem.

You're not getting the sympathy you crave from me. Just the truth.

I'm your friend. Believe it!

.

 

[Jasminebed]

Catrina m would not have suffered a loss (overall) using a bonus.
/

Of course Catrina would. Lose 96 or 99 percent, still losing as long as you take yet one more spin. Me too. Who quits after 5 or 10 mins? I guess someone smarter than me. But I want some time for my buck. I've deposited very little in last couple of months, saving for B&M trip to Casino Rama to see Stevie Nicks middle of month. Catrina, have more fun with your money, gl 2 u.

 

[Jasminebed]

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

.

You are rude, rude rude rude.

More "dumb" folks here than rude ones Roar.

 

[The Dude]

If one is truly to advocate on behalf of players then one must surely start and end with the plea to always play with a bonus. PLAY with a BONUS or simply lose more and more cash to greedy corporates and ever greedy affiliates.

I totally disagree - once you agree to a bonus, you fall into a web of terms and conditions. It's much more difficult to withdraw your funds when a bonus is attached.

And you're trolling again with the "affiliates" chip on your shoulder.

Let's not kid ourselves...Limiting our deposit options isn't cutting down on gambling. We either take it serious and STOP or admit we have a problem. There is nothing wrong with completely walking away from it. Gamblock is an excellent program to buy for about $30. It will assure you that your gambling days on that computer is over with. Trust me, you're not missing a damn thing by not being apart of the gambling community. Go join your local G.A meetings. There are lots of people just like you and I there to support you. Don't just sit at your computer and donate to these online bookie...

There is a Quit Gambling section at Casinomeister here that should be periodically perused.
https://www.casinomeister.com/quit-gambling/

IMHO you have got this terribly wrong - either that or you couldn't give a frig about another human being.

The OP is a plea for help. She stands in the midst of supposed veteran online players (mostly affiliates), bonuses coming at her left, right and centre and after 200 posts to this Forum crumbles into a whaling whining mess about flushing her dough down the dunny!

This is not the time for back-slapping. Passing on condolences is highly inappropriate.

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

And you got a problem and posting here is not the answer to your problem.

You're not getting the sympathy you crave from me. Just the truth.

I'm your friend. Believe it!

.

Friends don't flame - nor do they post agenda laden postings. 20 participants in this thread - five are affiliates

Keep it civil, please - no more troll-like posts. Thank you.

 

[LaHutti]

Hope you feel better for that LaHutti

Well....I really don't know if it makes me feel better, or makes me wanna the most.
What I've said just seem to be facts.
You have to excuse my ignorance, but I'm MORE than puzzled by the math here.
If anyone can explain to me, how a group of casinos can "give" you 300% bonusses all the way around ... (I would think I got that offer from maybe 5 casinos in the same "group" sofar, and I'm sure I could "get" it from the rest as well, if I wanted to... to me it's not a group, by the way, if it's run 100% by the same people, all the way down to the same 5 support people, but merely a way of luring people into depositing more money....again, in the end to the same people, but let's just leave that for now.), ... I might add, that I have never deposited in any of those casinos and "gotten" less than 100% bonus... now HOW can they have a payout % of near 90% INCLUDING from those 100%-300% bonusses and either a) not cheat and lie or b) not go bankrupt ?
Again .. .and as Brian said a lot of the people posting here are affiliates, that might not like my posts, and would want to protect their "income" in any way possible, however that does not make my posts less true, but plueaze explain the math to me, 'cause either I'm extremely dumb dumb dumb too, OR I'm right.
To me there is NO other business around, on- OR off-line, that we allow to steal from people in a totally uncontrolled way like this one.
I'm not trying to flame anyone btw....I'm just completely puzzled by how this can even be allowed to go on.
(Yes I know the whole free people, free choises, free countries, free internet, free to be dumb, and all that, but think abt. how many people end up in debt for life, from gambling, and if I'm right, and it's done by cheats and lies, that just makes me sick, and is really not any better than Nigerian scam, only slightly more sophisticated).

I'm sorry about the loooong posts, and if I'm stepping on someones feet here. :notworthy

 

[Matthew23]

HOW can they have a payout % of near 90% INCLUDING from those 100%-300% bonusses and either a) not cheat and lie or b) not go bankrupt ?

Because once you accept the bonus you are locked into fulfilling the wagering requirements.

If you are playing at 95% payout. You accept a $100 bonus and you are told you must wager it 30 times, then you lose on average $150 before the wagering requirements are fulfilling.

$100 X 30 = $3000.

$3000 / 100 X 95 = $2850

 

[catrina m]

IMHO you have got this terribly wrong - either that or you couldn't give a frig about another human being.

The OP is a plea for help. She stands in the midst of supposed veteran online players (mostly affiliates), bonuses coming at her left, right and centre and after 200 posts to this Forum crumbles into a whaling whining mess about flushing her dough down the dunny!

This is not the time for back-slapping. Passing on condolences is highly inappropriate.

You are dumb catrina. Dumb dumb dumb dumb.

And you got a problem and posting here is not the answer to your problem.

You're not getting the sympathy you crave from me. Just the truth.

I'm your friend. Believe it!

.

You surely didn't solve it and I am not looking for sympathy, your truth means nothing to me.

I wish bryan had an unthankyou button.


By the way, if my post seemed to you like a what? A whining mess? Read with intelligence my so called friend. I also prefer not to accept bonuses.

And I very much liked BB's post. Very much!

I will probably play again, and lose again but your help is not needed.

And as elvis said " thank you, thank you very much"

 

[paul02085]

I think most people who show up and immediately start being rude and basically calling the whole forum idiots or shills are just trying to stir people up. The best way to handle it IMO is to ignore them. Plus meister is good about not letting them get away with it for long (Thank u meister).

If the industry is so terrible why the need to come berate people who enjoy it? Just be glad you are superior and leave us poor peasants alone.

 

[catrina m]

I would like to add that bryan is a true friend to anyone that takes a risk in this risky buisness of online gambling.

He is a beer drinking sweetheart of a man that has helped many lost souls in cyberspace without having ever met them. Regardless of anyones so called problems he addresses the situation with grace and treats all with dignity.

Raise a toast to the best casinomeister, watchdog and player advocate the internet will ever see!

Cheers!

 

[Roar]

You surely didn't solve it and I am not looking for sympathy, your truth means nothing to me.

I wish bryan had an unthankyou button.


By the way, if my post seemed to you like a what? A whining mess? Read with intelligence my so called friend. I also prefer not to accept bonuses.

And I very much liked BB's post. Very much!

I will probably play again, and lose again but your help is not needed.

And as elvis said " thank you, thank you very much"

Sorry catrina as I may have gone a little overboard and in the process trampled unnecessarily on your feelings. But in lot of ways I was venting for other readers who chance upon this thread.

What I read form your OP were these words:

surrender
hoping for the win
all this worth it
if I win, I give it back
if I lose I have bad luck
I have to be very unlucky
I know you can win at online gaming
just utterly defeated

These words and expressions have red lights flashing and sirens blaring out loud. And then:

"I will probably play again, and lose again but your help is not needed."

Let others read about this predicament and silently form their own point of view either with respect to their own circumstance or some other individual looking for a helping hand.

The overwhelming majority response to your current frame of mind is a sad and sickening blight (there you go, I'm being polite).

/

 

[Roar]

I totally disagree - once you agree to a bonus, you fall into a web of terms and conditions. It's much more difficult to withdraw your funds when a bonus is attached.

And you're trolling again with the "affiliates" chip on your shoulder.

And my response is the same again Bryan - take down all the banner ads screaming "Bonus" from your site.

No bonus = lose lose lose lose

Please argue your case on the basis of profit/loss.

If you consistently profit from bonus play you will encounter difficulties sooner or later - no doubt about it.

If you consistently lose you will get your arse kissed by casinos and affiliates all the way to the poor house.

It seems like your advocating the latter.

/

 

[bb28]

As my friend Lauriejim said so well in another thread in regards to someone trolling.
You need to learn some manners and no you are NOT being polite. Your apology to Catrina is BS. Seems like you have some bitterness about the fact that you are on or have been on the losing side of things and a beef with affiliates and you just can't resist throwing your own personal issues into this thread.
How many times and how many ways does it need to be made clear to you....the way you present your point of view is not helping anyone?

Paulo is right......you aren't worth it and you should be ignored.

Sorry catrina as I may have gone a little overboard and in the process trampled unnecessarily on your feelings. But in lot of ways I was venting for other readers who chance upon this thread.

What I read form your OP were these words:

surrender
hoping for the win
all this worth it
if I win, I give it back
if I lose I have bad luck
I have to be very unlucky
I know you can win at online gaming
just utterly defeated

These words and expressions have red lights flashing and sirens blaring out loud. And then:

"I will probably play again, and lose again but your help is not needed."

Let others read about this predicament and silently form their own point of view either with respect to their own circumstance or some other individual looking for a helping hand.

The overwhelming majority response to your current frame of mind is a sad and sickening blight (there you go, I'm being polite).

/

 

[catrina m]

What I read form your OP were these words:

surrender
hoping for the win
all this worth it
if I win, I give it back
if I lose I have bad luck
I have to be very unlucky
I know you can win at online gaming
just utterly defeated



/

Yes, these phrases taken out of context sound like I am a gambling addict crying out for help to control my unmerciful demon.

Laugh my ass off, ( I hope that is what lmao means) lmao

In reality I am a low roller that has a lot of experience with most online casinos that I am able to deposit with. Just this past weekend I purchased a new car and purchase grocery staples ( shrimp, ribeyes, etc. ) as I feel.

I have no need to be helped with my gambling habit, as I know when I need to lay off the deposits ( which is now) not because I need your advice, but because I am vocal on what is happening ie: losing constantly

I do not know why the casino's are paying so poorly, thats not my problem

I do recognize the fact I am losing more than I usually do and I am stopping it

I am sorry if you think I am what? A crumbling, whining attempt at sympathy but I assure you I am not

Good day to you sir.

And thank you, thank you very much!

 

[catrina m]

I would also like to say that when you low roll ( sometimes 4 or 5 hours a day)
that you get to know the nuances of a particular game or casino.

If you notice your favorite game is paying below par you move. it may be to a different slot or even a different casino.

When they take your funds as fast as they can, no matter what or where you play you have to notice this.

The slots are variance, but when you go beyond your normal variance and lose twice what you normally do, and it happens for a week or two.

Anyone else notice this?

Maybe I am dumb.dumb dumb

lmao

Every single slot in every single casino has the chance of spitting out a huge winners screenshot. Does it not?

That is why we play, That is why we deposit. If months go by with only small wins it is in your mind, why am I doing this.

Thats all I am saying and its simple

Is it not?

 

[suzecat]

I would also like to say that when you low roll ( sometimes 4 or 5 hours a day)
that you get to know the nuances of a particular game or casino.

If you notice your favorite game is paying below par you move. it may be to a different slot or even a different casino.

When they take your funds as fast as they can, no matter what or where you play you have to notice this.

The slots are variance, but when you go beyond your normal variance and lose twice what you normally do, and it happens for a week or two.

Anyone else notice this?

Maybe I am dumb.dumb dumb

lmao

Every single slot in every single casino has the chance of spitting out a huge winners screenshot. Does it not?

That is why we play, That is why we deposit. If months go by with only small wins it is in your mind, why am I doing this.

Thats all I am saying and its simple

Is it not?

Yes Cat, very simple...........And of course it's our fault (USA) the casino profits have shriveled to the point that casinos are adjusting payout ratios, if that is what is happening. BTW, Obama is a poker player!

 

[Rusty]

Because once you accept the bonus you are locked into fulfilling the wagering requirements.

If you are playing at 95% payout. You accept a $100 bonus and you are told you must wager it 30 times, then you lose on average $150 before the wagering requirements are fulfilling.

$100 X 30 = $3000.

$3000 / 100 X 95 = $2850

Good post,
...and most WR on good bonus offers are much higher than X 30 deposit but.....
This topic probably deserves a thread of its own because there are many No deposit offers out there where the numbers certainly do not add up.

LaHutti, I am in total agreement with you that the games are not truely random and/or the payout % are much, much lower than advertised, infact those Two things are inextricably linked IMO.

Sorry for OT post Catrina, hope it is going well for you.