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What is this about Ang having a freebie party in Ibiza I am hearing about?

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This Labour Govt are just as bad as the previous Tory Govt. Yet, I truly fear they will be even worse. Who would have thought that was possible.
In a word?

ME!!

Did anyone REALLY think that Liebore were criticising the Tories in the name of "opposition"?
Pull the other one.

Nah. Not a chance. They were criticising the Tories not in the name of fulfilling their role as the party of opposition, but out of sheer jealousy, literally green with envy in the knowledge that they, as said party of opposition, weren't getting their own chance to stick their greedy pigs snouts in the trough themselves.

Well now they have got their chance. And boy are they going to make sure they take it while it lasts.
Every nook and every cranny of every carriage on that taxpayer-funded gravy train is going to be forensically combed* examined and they will help themselves to every last drop of gravy that they can find.

* You can't really "comb" gravy, can you? :oops::laugh:

They (apologies in advance for my about to be sounding like Chopley has done for the last 14 years) will make like bandits every bit as much as the Tories did when they were in power, if not more so.
The evidence is already clear for all to see. Starmer, Reeves and Angewa Wayner are all at it.

And people are actually shocked? Seriously? Where have you been? Living in a fucking cave?
The only thing that HAS shocked me is that the scandals, the sleaze and the dirty laundry have become public knowledge as quickly as they have done.

People who get into the world of politics get in there for one reason and one reason alone. MONEY.
Making a difference to the lives of ordinary people, to the gullible voters that helped get me this lucrative gig? Nah, fuck that mullarkey for a game of soldiers, I've got money to make! And if I can't make it, then I will just TAKE it instead. And the taxpayer is going to foot the bill.
Jobs a good 'un, mate. Cheers. :cheers:

There is a reason why I have not voted for over two decades and it is the same reason why I will never cast a vote in any kind of election between now and the day I meet my maker. I am not going to give some avaricious greedy cunt to chance to enrich themselves with MY help by wasting ten minutes of my life voting for the ungrateful, self-entitled wankpuffin (nice word Chops...had to borrow it this one time) in a bid to help them get elected as an MP/MLA/whatever.

Democracy? It's the biggest scam going on in the world and the second biggest is not even close.
 
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Smooth recovery.


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If MI5 really think that Iran and Russia are to blame for young people raping, Knifing, Machettiing and Shooting people on our streets, outside schools, on buses on and around train stations then they need to remove any sign of intelligence from their name.
The drugs trade in the UK comes in via Kosovo which is loved by the EU and NATO.
Are the Russians or Iran responsible for trafficking migrants across the channel?
Muslim gangs? Yes.
But our government and media are scaring us against Iran and Russia yet again. And most folk will simply believe it because MI5 says so.
If the intell services really believe that Muslims where a threat to what the globalists want do you really think that they would have not stopped the incoming years ago?

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Wtg just stop oil, you've really made a positive difference by targeting prestigious Art, such a silly name as well, there's no 'just' about it, brainless plonkers who've bought into 'oh my god, carbon is killing us!'.

Alternative energy and more sustainable production methods will take decades to implement, but until population growth is controlled it's pointless. That's what's putting a real strain on the environment.

"The gallery advised visitors to take "minimal items" with them, and said all bags would be inspected.

It said it was "sorry" to make this decision, and believed entry into the museum will now take longer."

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According to the bbc, Labour are planning to increase the money they grab through inheritance tax. I didn't realise it was currently as high as this:

"Inheritance tax is charged at 40% on the property, possessions and money of somebody who has died above the £325,000 threshold.

It raises about £7bn a year for the government."

This is daylight robbery, no wonder they want to keep house prices high.
What do other countries charge, of course we'll never know because journalists and newspapers won't do their job and inform the public.

I wonder how they keep tabs on it all, people might pass jewellery and antiques down, only sold 50 yrs or more later by descendants.

Perhaps you pay the tax on a valuation of the item, regardless of whether you sell it, so if it's a treasured item that you wish to keep for memories sake, then you still have to pay for that privilege as if you had sold it. In the south, practically every house is valued near or above £325,000 now. So all other items inherited will be subject to inheritance tax as well.

I suppose it's handy that they'll soon be able to remotely check folk's bank accounts.

People wouldn't mind if the govt actually achieved something with the money, high quality services and infrastructure, instead they're releasing dodgy prison folk early and putting the world's 'asylum' seekers into hotel accommodation!

Nigel and 'reform' should be riding high in the polls, but he's just coasting (Literally!) as a mini opposition party.

And I can now see where Charlie Mullins was coming from:

 
Inheritance Tax is just another money grab. People have already paid taxes to enable them to acquire their assets. Yet inheritance tax, taxes an asset that was acquired with net proceeds after already being taxed.

What next? Are Labour going to introduce legislation that spouses or civl partners of those deceased, will also have to pay inheritance tax??

With Two Tier Keir's Government and Robbing Rachel controlling the purse strings, nothing would surprise me. In 12 days time we will see just how far Labour go in making us all bend over.
 
According to the bbc, Labour are planning to increase the money they grab through inheritance tax. I didn't realise it was currently as high as this:

"Inheritance tax is charged at 40% on the property, possessions and money of somebody who has died above the £325,000 threshold.

It raises about £7bn a year for the government."

This is daylight robbery, no wonder they want to keep house prices high.
What do other countries charge, of course we'll never know because journalists and newspapers won't do their job and inform the public.

I wonder how they keep tabs on it all, people might pass jewellery and antiques down, only sold 50 yrs or more later by descendants.

Perhaps you pay the tax on a valuation of the item, regardless of whether you sell it, so if it's a treasured item that you wish to keep for memories sake, then you still have to pay for that privilege as if you had sold it. In the south, practically every house is valued near or above £325,000 now. So all other items inherited will be subject to inheritance tax as well.

I suppose it's handy that they'll soon be able to remotely check folk's bank accounts.

People wouldn't mind if the govt actually achieved something with the money, high quality services and infrastructure, instead they're releasing dodgy prison folk early and putting the world's 'asylum' seekers into hotel accommodation!

Nigel and 'reform' should be riding high in the polls, but he's just coasting (Literally!) as a mini opposition party.

And I can now see where Charlie Mullins was coming from:


I have a friend who is shitting herself in case any changes to the inheritance tax is made retrospective as her mum died last month and the house and property is worth a lot of money. It would be the difference between selling up and splitting with her brother, staying put and finding a job or living a comfortable life.
Funnily enough she never mentions her offshore accounts
 
That truly does suck as even a straightforward Probate takes months, likely upwards of 12 months to be granted.
The UK system does not allow the passing of retrospective laws usually. It's like passing a law bringing back hanging from 1 November and giving the sentence to someone who murdered today. Wouldn't be lawful. The tax would have to be applied to cases from a clearly defined date either present or future, not historical.
 
The UK system does not allow the passing of retrospective laws usually. It's like passing a law bringing back hanging from 1 November and giving the sentence to someone who murdered today. Wouldn't be lawful. The tax would have to be applied to cases from a clearly defined date either present or future, not historical.
Yeah ,her lawyers have stated this but they are concerned that labour may fudge it in order to trap more people and grab more money.
 
The UK system does not allow the passing of retrospective laws usually. It's like passing a law bringing back hanging from 1 November and giving the sentence to someone who murdered today. Wouldn't be lawful. The tax would have to be applied to cases from a clearly defined date either present or future, not historical.
I get that, but surely if Probate is granted after any such new legislation comes into force, then surely that would be affected, no?
 
The UK system does not allow the passing of retrospective laws usually. It's like passing a law bringing back hanging from 1 November and giving the sentence to someone who murdered today. Wouldn't be lawful. The tax would have to be applied to cases from a clearly defined date either present or future, not historical.

Tell that to HMRC who brought legislation in allowing such a thing that caused people to actually hang themselves when they suddenly faced a tax bill because they deemed what was legal back then is no longer legal now but we'll still collect the money (Loan charge)
 
That truly does suck as even a straightforward Probate takes months, likely upwards of 12 months to be granted.
My wife is going through this exact process right now, hope it isn't immediately changed on release of the Budget, as we're already 3 months in, and solicitors haven't even valued the property to put it on the market yet, so probate won't be finished anytime soon.
Inheritance Tax is just another money grab. People have already paid taxes to enable them to acquire their assets. Yet inheritance tax, taxes an asset that was acquired with net proceeds after already being taxed.

What next? Are Labour going to introduce legislation that spouses or civl partners of those deceased, will also have to pay inheritance tax??

With Two Tier Keir's Government and Robbing Rachel controlling the purse strings, nothing would surprise me. In 12 days time we will see just how far Labour go in making us all bend over.
This is what's so annoying, she is about to receive a significant amount of money, and can't grumble at the amount even after the Govt takes an obscene amount.
What stings is her uncle who has recently died already paid a significant amount when he received the house and inheritance from his mam, a mere two years ago.

Both he and his mam, lived very frugal lives, growing veg in the garden to eat, wearing shabby clothes and generally having very little joy; no holidays etc (their fault I know) by being so stingy. It was a total shock when we saw how much he had in the bank account and how they'd manage to accumulate such wealth.
However, this was their choice, it was all received through hard work and they just chose not to spend, now the Govt can come along and say. 'well done for not spending, we'll have almost half of that off you' 'twice'.
 
As far as I'm concerned they effectively murdered him, guilty of waving some placards about the deep state and shouting a few, angry choice words at cops after three toddlers have been murdered, result: gets banged up for two years. Poor sod. 😞

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I bet the scum-vomit that did the murders is getting every level of protection and pandering available in custody.
 
I note this article on the marxist BBC news site which confirms the sick man of the west is what the UK is.

We've long had a big load of piss-takers living off benefits here but since Covid there's been a vast increase in spurious 'mental health' claims so people can opt out of society and contributing to it.

The level of skiving, dossing, entitlement and dependency has risen to eye-watering levels compared to the other main economies with compliant doctors helping along the way.

People think they can live at home from social media and psychologically expect to earn money for very little effort from it like their idols do and go mental (apparently) when the reality dawns.

Two-tier reckons he will get the percentage of adults in gainful employment from 75 to 80%. Will he fuck.

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P.S. Oh, but they still keep reeling the 'migration necessary' trope out, of course.
 
As far as I'm concerned they effectively murdered him, guilty of waving some placards about the deep state and shouting a few, angry choice words at cops after three toddlers have been murdered, result: gets banged up for two years. Poor sod. 😞

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Just as an idea, he could have not joined in with a riot where some of the rioters were literally trying to set people on fire.
 
This if true is an absolute P Take of the highest order

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When I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes a few years back, they would not prescribe me the Libre Free 2 monitor - which is painlessly attached to your arm and linked to the app on your phone via bluetooth.

This allows you to monitor your glucose levels as many times as you want during the day, without having to draw blood from your finger and use the strips to get your blood sugar reading.

They would prescribe me the monitor, strips and finger stabber - at a cost of approx £10 a fortnight less than what the Libre Free costs. But I being adverse to using the finger stabber, decided to pay for the Libre Free for the first three months.

The Libre Free, along with changing my lifestyle, including joining a gym and changing my diet, allowed me to not only lose weight, become a lot fitter but also get my diabetes under control.

Now Two Tier Keir's govt want to give smart watches to millions!? Absolute joke, especially as the tech is not quite there yet. What an absolute waste of money IMO
 
Just as an idea, he could have not joined in with a riot where some of the rioters were literally trying to set people on fire.
2 years and 8 months for calling the police a name

He was filmed calling police “scum” during the incident that led to his arrest.

The sign he held was not deemed unlawful, but his actions and abuse of police was, the judge said during his sentencing.

Yet Huw Edwards recently got a suspended sentence for his offence
 
Just as an idea, he could have not joined in with a riot where some of the rioters were literally trying to set people on fire.

This picture gives a better idea of his crimes, telling me a suspended sentence wouldn't have been sufficient. There's been no consistency, and they're also still letting prisoners out early due to overcrowding, including actual dangerous individuals, where is the logic. It is politicised policing and sentencing.

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@mack341 you are wrong regarding the sign.

The sign he held was not deemed unlawful, but his actions and abuse of police was, the judge said during his sentencing.

His calling the police 'Scum' was the reason he got a 2 year 8 month custodial sentence. His sign was deemed not unlawful

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By all accounts he did not take part in the violence that occurred that day.

#TwoTierKeir
 
He was a participant in a riot and was charged as a rioter. This was at the same riot where there was a concerted effort to burn down a hotel with people inside it.

He made the choice to go to that riot, and join in with it. If he'd stayed at home watching the telly, he'd still be alive today. (He also pleaded guilty to 'violent disorder'.)

There were no tears being shed (quite the opposite in fact!) here at CM for the Just Stop Oil protesters, who were sent to jail for longer than Peter Lynch was, and they were just planning a peaceful protest on a Zoom call!

We're all about personal responsibility and being held accountable for your actions right? Chopley's Top Tip for the day is don't go to a violent riot and scream racist abuse at the police whilst your fellow rioters are trying to cook other human beings alive, because you might be arrested and get sent to prison.
 
@mack341 you are wrong regarding the sign.



His calling the police 'Scum' was the reason he got a 2 year 8 month custodial sentence. His sign was deemed not unlawful

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By all accounts he did not take part in the violence that occurred that day.

#TwoTierKeir

My fault, I was meaning to point out his sign as a better way of showing what this guy was doing in the main. The headlines were rioter, and Chop alluded to him joining in with the riot.

I haven't read the newspaper articles about him, but I'd be very surprised if he's ever been in trouble with the law before.

Also the covid lockdowns/isolation and fear promotion created a lot of psychological problems, it's cumulative, I wouldn't be surprised if that is not a factor in the background here (wef and WHO is mentioned on his sign), so he's a double victim by the permanent government imo.
 
He was a participant in a riot and was charged as a rioter. This was at the same riot where there was a concerted effort to burn down a hotel with people inside it.

He made the choice to go to that riot, and join in with it. If he'd stayed at home watching the telly, he'd still be alive today. (He also pleaded guilty to 'violent disorder'.)

There were no tears being shed (quite the opposite in fact!) here at CM for the Just Stop Oil protesters, who were sent to jail for longer than Peter Lynch was, and they were just planning a peaceful protest on a Zoom call!

We're all about personal responsibility and being held accountable for your actions right? Chopley's Top Tip for the day is don't go to a violent riot and scream racist abuse at the police whilst your fellow rioters are trying to cook other human beings alive, because you might be arrested and get sent to prison.

I'd have been in favour of every JSO protester disrupting traffic to have been given a suspended sentence on their first offence, and then they'd know where they are.

Mr Lynch was probably advised to plead guilty in order to receive a lesser sentence, he may just have thought to himself I've got to be pragmatic here in this terrible predicament.

For someone on the left you seem to have very little sympathy for individuals, it's all PC ideology driven justice.

I noticed you've not responded to my highly relevant point of releasing actual dangerous criminals (with long records) to make room for someone like Mr Lynch, who waved a placard and shouted some hurty words?
 
He was a participant in a riot and was charged as a rioter. This was at the same riot where there was a concerted effort to burn down a hotel with people inside it.

He made the choice to go to that riot, and join in with it. If he'd stayed at home watching the telly, he'd still be alive today. (He also pleaded guilty to 'violent disorder'.)

There were no tears being shed (quite the opposite in fact!) here at CM for the Just Stop Oil protesters, who were sent to jail for longer than Peter Lynch was, and they were just planning a peaceful protest on a Zoom call!

We're all about personal responsibility and being held accountable for your actions right? Chopley's Top Tip for the day is don't go to a violent riot and scream racist abuse at the police whilst your fellow rioters are trying to cook other human beings alive, because you might be arrested and get sent to prison.
Other than shouting hurty words at police officers, please find a news report that states in his case that saw him receive a custodial sentence, that he actively participated in rioting.

Yes there were assholes that set fire to a bin trying to set the hotel on fire. But I have not read anywhere, that this individual in question took part in said violence.
 
Other than shouting hurty words at police officers, please find a news report that states in his case that saw him receive a custodial sentence, that he actively participated in rioting.

Yes there were assholes that set fire to a bin trying to set the hotel on fire. But I have not read anywhere, that this individual in question took part in said violence.

I'm not even remotely trying to defend the sentencing policy applied in this case, or indeed in general. As a society we send far too many people to prison for no good reason and the outcomes are very often extremely poor.

The fact remains however that if you make a conscious decision to attend a riot and face off against the police in a very tense and violent situation (remember the bit where some of the rioters were trying to burn people alive), you're absolutely running a very real risk of arrest, trial, and being carted off to prison.

People who should have never been sent to prison in the first place die in there all the time, that's the real problem here.

Maybe our new prisons minister, James Timpson, will have some success, his starting gambit on this topic is that one third of the people currently in Britain's jails shouldn't be there at all. Whether or not Mr Lynch should have been there prior to his untimely death could be part of that debate.
 
Here we go with the uniparty's further steps down their globalist long term goals. ULEZ is about to be rolled out across the country despite the vast majority of the population being totally against it.
Make having a car so joyless and expensive that we will either buy an electric car or stop driving or agree to car sharing.
I am so pleased that I was born when I was and was able to witness living a much freer world

Rayner so scripted and pretending that the Tories where to blame for starting ULEZ and that the public want it.
 
I'm sick of seeing this guy's mug every time I visit the bbc news site, must be going on for over a year now ffs. 🥹

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I never watch the BBC. Here they are broadcasting utter bullshit yesterday which only adds fuel to the fire. Floyd was not shot. This guy was not on the streets but in a carthat had been used in crimes over the past 48 hours and was detected.
Who is he? I have never seen him utter a word?
The BBC know what a person is going to say before they say it. except in some cases.
 
I'm sick of seeing this guy's mug every time I visit the bbc news site, must be going on for over a year now ffs. 🥹

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Is that the founder and CEO of Holister and Abercrombie & Finch?

Some guy that promised aspiring male models a lot of work, then drugged them up and shagged them.

Basically a Barrymore type, minus the swimming pool with a dead body in it.

And yeah he looks gross. So full of plastic, he probably can't stand near a cooker without the risk of melting.
 
Is that the founder and CEO of Holister and Abercrombie & Finch?

Some guy that promised aspiring male models a lot of work, then drugged them up and shagged them.

Basically a Barrymore type, minus the swimming pool with a dead body in it.

And yeah he looks gross. So full of plastic, he probably can't stand near a cooker without the risk of melting.
They promote people to promote a narrative then if they fail they are gone.
Is this true m8? I am slotting and not looking at events online
 
I'm not even remotely trying to defend the sentencing policy applied in this case, or indeed in general. As a society we send far too many people to prison for no good reason and the outcomes are very often extremely poor.

The fact remains however that if you make a conscious decision to attend a riot and face off against the police in a very tense and violent situation (remember the bit where some of the rioters were trying to burn people alive), you're absolutely running a very real risk of arrest, trial, and being carted off to prison.

People who should have never been sent to prison in the first place die in there all the time, that's the real problem here.

Maybe our new prisons minister, James Timpson, will have some success, his starting gambit on this topic is that one third of the people currently in Britain's jails shouldn't be there at all. Whether or not Mr Lynch should have been there prior to his untimely death could be part of that debate.
Yes I do, as I was watching it being live streamed at the time, where thuggish morons were setting fire to a commercial refuse bin and trying to get it in through the emergency exit of the hotel.

The man, Peter Lynch was NOT involved in this. He also was not involved in any violence, something that the court also confirmed in his case. Yet he obviously was coerced into pleading guilty.

This aside, yesterday they released over 1,000 career criminals, the majority of which I daresay have committed far worse offences than yelling "scum" at riot police. Indeed one such criminal who was a recipient of this early release, was picked up by his mates driving a Bentley and also a Mercedes G Wagon.

Just so our two tier judicial and policing system can lock up protestors such as Peter Lynch whose only crime was 'stupidity' in being in the wrong place at the wrong time, hurling hurty words at riot police.

The government has got his death on their hands.

#TwoTierKeir
 

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