General Election 2024 Thread

[goatwack]

But illegal immigration is a tiny part of the overall number, and it has been right the way throughout the last 30 years.

For the longest time it was mostly (legal) internal EU migration, Brexit made the UK much less attractive to EU residents so it was just replaced with (legal) immigration from elsewhere.

'Small boats' asylum seekers are a small subset of an already small slice of the overall immigration picture.

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'Preserving one peoples over others' is a pretty telling statement in and of itself, like, what does that actually mean? How would you define that? Is it people who've lived in the UK for a certain amount of time and then they're OK, does it count if you're born in the UK? Do you have to be a certain colour, or worship a certain God? How many generations back counts as acceptable?

Farage played the racist wolf-whistle with Sunak leaving the D-Day celebrations early, saying he 'didn't understand our culture' (WINK WINK KNOW WHAT I MEAN RIGHT?), and yet Sunak is most definitely British. Or is he not British enough for Nigel? Or just the wrong kind of British?

Bit thorny isn't it.

Britain has always had a large mix of peoples throughout its history, so I'm really not sure why the default stance always defers back to essentially 'white folk' wishing foreigners to abscond?

When in reality, just growing up in many parts of London, no one batted an eyelid as to where anyone else was from. I've seen multiculturalism in effect, and it was rarely an issue.

The notion that other ethnicities and cultures living here aren't dismayed at our politicians' allowing unvetted arrivals in their hundreds every day is something that's conveniently overlooked, yet it's of grave concern to most folk, so yes Preserving one peoples over others indeed.

Last I checked we are supposed to be a collective nation. Championing unknown elements without knowing their background does unquestionably harm its peoples, sorry to say

 

[pinnit2014]

I see that there appears to be trouble in paradise as newly-dubbed Sir Kid Starver suspends seven Labour MPs for raising the issue of the 2-child benefit cap.

Not really the united leadership that binds the party, nor help those struggling in borderline poverty. Just leave them to it, right?

Just seen but that's why Starmer's 'Project' (aka, remove the left from Labour) was in full tilt when he got the reins: because he knew that most of his policies won't chime with typical left leaning MP's and, if the election was close, and reform didn't exist, he might have had squeaky arse time.

But then again this Labour Party are MP'ing Eton educated folk and taking on Tory rejects so, you know...

Green's anyone?

 

[pinnit2014]

'Yer Man' is used back home - my mum uses it when talking about someone i don't know:

You, know, yer man down there ....

Oh, yer man?

Aye, yer man! Yer man did that!

Ah, you've been so specific i now know what you mean

 

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You have a choice. Immigration is no joke thing. Don't bullshit us. Don't promise on election day, 5 times, then up the numbers coming in. It's not all Lamb Bhuna's nice innit prole. Don't get coy with me like I don't know you know I know.

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# You listen to your people and upset immigrants who want to come. (racist)
## You ignore your people and upset them. (prioritising others)

If you don't like the job, don't run. Don't be a super clever partisan who knows everything about everything, but doesn't understand people's concerns on this issue. It's disingenous, or you can't keep up. Neither are a good look. Nigel's coming for you, like a Brexit in a porsche spg van.

 

[goatwack]

An affecting and sincere articulation of today's horrors in Southport, far removed from the usual copy & paste responses we see so often

 

[ChopleyIOM]

An affecting and sincere articulation of today's horrors in Southport, far removed from the usual copy & paste responses we see so often

I've warmed to Starmer a lot, he's grown very quickly into the PM's role IMO, far more effective in power than he is in opposition. Nothing showy about him, just getting his head down and getting on with the job.

I see Rachel Reeves launched a broadside at the Tories yesterday, some £22bn of spending they've fiddled off the books (the OBR agrees), hosing billions all over the place that wasn't budgeted or accounted for, and a load of unfunded 'promises' that they made pre-election without the cash to back it up.

Never let it be said that the Tories are the party of prudent finances ever again!

 

[dunover]

An affecting and sincere articulation of today's horrors in Southport, far removed from the usual copy & paste responses we see so often

Sadly, this vile piece of human filth has not been furnished with a description when they were looking for him, and it's clear witnesses speaking to the press have had their words edited, especially on the BBC website. I deduce this as when the witnesses say I saw xxx with a knife, he had a mask on etc. all accounts seem unnaturally truncated and move quickly on after that brief detail. If I were a witness I would naturally elaborate with as much detail as possible to cement my credibility, it's what people do naturally.

Those poor families, people who had to witness this primitive barbarity.

It is now abundantly clear and a standing joke among the public that when a description of a serious offender is missing, despite numerous witnesses and statements, that it is almost certain it's a migrant of some kind and that fact is too 'sensitive' for our consumption in case it endorses so-called 'right wing views'. You couldn't make it up.

If I am wrong, apologies in advance but sadly other previous atrocities indicate this is likely. Selective news is king alas. Southport is a largely homogenous area so statistically my suspicions here should be wrong. We'll see eventually.

 

[thr0b]

It’s more likely that details are being withheld because the more details you give out in reports, the more likely you get people going along with the existing witness statements. Which makes it easier for the prosecution to claim there was not a fair trial. Don’t prejudice the trial, basically.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The best the Tories have to offer, apparently.

I don't think Starmer will be quaking in his boots. Wonder what the odds are that whoever wins it leads the Tories into the next general election....

 

[mack341]

Are they trying very hard to remain irrelevant?

Just because you have managed to acquire some sort of public image, almost a household name, doesn't mean you're cut out to be the party leader.

I bet there are better options from the rest of their MPs.

Never heard of mel stride, the name is a bit off-putting, but apparently he was president of the Oxford union, that would normally mark him out for a significant future in politics.

Could see him and tugendhat share the 1&2 top jobs. Not sure of their charisma and appeal compared to say Nige though.

They ought to be looking for somebody the public can warm to. Starmer although boring is not really dislikeable.

 

[amandajm]

Stride is the only one that comes across as a vaguely listenable Tory tbh.

 

[geordiecolin]

Are they trying very hard to remain irrelevant?

Just because you have managed to acquire some sort of public image, almost a household name, doesn't mean you're cut out to be the party leader.

I bet there are better options from the rest of their MPs.

Never heard of mel stride, the name is a bit off-putting, but apparently he was president of the Oxford union, that would normally mark him out for a significant future in politics.

Could see him and tugendhat share the 1&2 top jobs. Not sure of their charisma and appeal compared to say Nige though.

They ought to be looking for somebody the public can warm to. Starmer although boring is not really dislikeable.

The same Starma who ignored all of the evidence crossing his desk about Saville's abuses and refused to prosecute him fearing that it would expose many others ? The same Starma that said that Israel turning of the water, food, power and supplies to innocent women, children and men was a ligit thing to do despite him knowing it was a war crime?

 

[megadam]

Stride is the only one that comes across as a vaguely listenable Tory tbh.

PAHAHAHAHAHA. Stride, the insufferable loathsome idiotic twat knuckle that turned HMRC into a militant organization that helped easily destroy the self employed market in the UK? He's always always been a disagreeable "Do as I say not as I do" charlatan and he has blood on his hands from the death's he's had a hand in causing at people taking their lives over the loan charge saga (Which is another Post Office style scandal that has been brewing and dragging on for years)

 

[amandajm]

Well that one yes. He talks a good game. They wheel him out when the others cry enough. The rest sound like they don't really mean what they say. You can't have any of them tbh.

I have had the misfortune of listening to them all today checking out the runners and riders in the betting.

The 37/1 on the exchanges for him to be next Tory leader is small stakes tempting level.

 

[mack341]

The same Starma who ignored all of the evidence crossing his desk about Saville's abuses and refused to prosecute him fearing that it would expose many others ? The same Starma that said that Israel turning of the water, food, power and supplies to innocent women, children and men was a ligit thing to do despite him knowing it was a war crime?

Well I wasn't really thinking of those and his other ideas, more just his persona isn't unlikeable per se.

He's a bit like a john major, I'm sure though after some while he may grate, boris Johnson started to annoy me because the act started to wear thing, you never knew when he was taking something seriously (other than the Ukraine war).

 

[goatwack]

It's not Starmer I have a problem with, he's been by and large fairly earnest in wanting to effect positive change and get things moving. Even Lammy appears more tasked with doing away with the sound bites and drama and just 'getting on with it'.

Chief antagonists are some of his version 1.0 Cabinet colleagues, such as Yvette "It's not terror-related.....but I can't influence police investigations" Cooper and cacodemon Rachel Reeves, at time of writing.

 

[dunover]

The best the Tories have to offer, apparently.

I don't think Starmer will be quaking in his boots. Wonder what the odds are that whoever wins it leads the Tories into the next general election....

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Fuck me! The Three Degrees meets the 3 Stooges.

 

[dunover]

Well that one yes. He talks a good game. They wheel him out when the others cry enough. The rest sound like they don't really mean what they say. You can't have any of them tbh.

I have had the misfortune of listening to them all today checking out the runners and riders in the betting.

The 37/1 on the exchanges for him to be next Tory leader is small stakes tempting level.

Please watch the links you're putting up here. The second had affiliate links to betting firms. So removed. Thanks D

 

[dunover]

It’s more likely that details are being withheld because the more details you give out in reports, the more likely you get people going along with the existing witness statements. Which makes it easier for the prosecution to claim there was not a fair trial. Don’t prejudice the trial, basically.

So describing and putting up a photofit of the Yorkshire Ripper was bad practise?

By the time the reports came out, the subhuman was already in custody with about the biggest pile of corroborated and camera evidence you'd ever need to give the CPS wet dreams.

There was one single reason this was done, the cover-all trope called 'community relations'. That is woke-speak for "White people, only ever just be victims, not complainers."

 

[goatwack]

It's a culmination of factors that has led us to where we find ourselves now, open border policies being one.

At the same time, it's always been the police's job to enforce the law whilst simultaneously maintain some form of community cohesion, an unenviable task that's a tinderbox at the best of times. It's no surprise that general descriptions are withheld at the outset and heavily prejudiced in their censorship in these instances.

In the last two to three weeks we've seen a soldier stabbed in broad daylight, the Leeds riots, the airport wranglings and the Southport atrocities, with seemingly no let-up.

The Rwandan kid's family by all accounts were modest and the father'd emigrated here and worked hard, whilst the murderous teenager was deemed to be quiet and normal as 'normal' can be. How do you fight against that, let alone foresee such a random act

Needless to say, I certainly can't remember these types of events occurring growing up in a melting pot of urban diversity, it was unspeakable then as it still is now.

And whilst tensions are clearly at an all-time high, I still felt it rather baffling to see Starmer being apportioned the blame for this event, though you could see people needing an outlet.

For if indeed it was Labour that opened the door, then the Tories can't claim to have kept a tight leash on incoming criminality themselves over three terms in Government, if these are the results we're seeing, something that's not going to be fixed by Labour overnight

 

[geordiecolin]

It's a culmination of factors that has led us to where we find ourselves now, open border policies being one.

At the same time, it's always been the police's job to enforce the law whilst simultaneously maintain some form of community cohesion, an unenviable task that's a tinderbox at the best of times. It's no surprise that general descriptions are withheld at the outset and heavily prejudiced in their censorship in these instances.

In the last two to three weeks we've seen a soldier stabbed in broad daylight, the Leeds riots, the airport wranglings and the Southport atrocities, with seemingly no let-up.

The Rwandan kid's family by all accounts were modest and the father'd emigrated here and worked hard, whilst the murderous teenager was deemed to be quiet and normal as 'normal' can be. How do you fight against that, let alone foresee such a random act

Needless to say, I certainly can't remember these types of events occurring growing up in a melting pot of urban diversity, it was unspeakable then as it still is now.

And whilst tensions are clearly at an all-time high, I still felt it rather baffling to see Starmer being apportioned the blame for this event, though you could see people needing an outlet.

For if indeed it was Labour that opened the door, then the Tories can't claim to have kept a tight leash on incoming criminality themselves over three terms in Government, if these are the results we're seeing, something that's not going to be fixed by Labour overnight

There are all sorts of rumours being bandied about regarding this evil murderer so I am waiting to see how it all pans out. There is also talk of a 2nd would be knifeman who was stopped this evening in Southport. Lets hope it all quietens down this evening with few casualties.
It could develop into a very rocky summer

 

[ChopleyIOM]

World's dumbest rioter who hasn't learned that standing in front of the missiles being thrown at the police, whilst goading the police, isn't a great plan. Still he caught a brick to the bollocks so maybe he won't be able to breed.

I'm not sure which part of the grieving process this correlates to.

 

[dunover]

World's dumbest rioter who hasn't learned that standing in front of the missiles being thrown at the police, whilst goading the police, isn't a great plan. Still he caught a brick to the bollocks so maybe he won't be able to breed.

I'm not sure which part of the grieving process this correlates to.

Ask BLM and their white sycophants. A good riot, destroying things, vandalism etc. was witnessed aplenty - the excuse was a police act in a foreign country, nothing even to do with the UK. QED

 

[sufferinsilence]

World's dumbest rioter who hasn't learned that standing in front of the missiles being thrown at the police, whilst goading the police, isn't a great plan. Still he caught a brick to the bollocks so maybe he won't be able to breed.

I'm not sure which part of the grieving process this correlates to.

Just walk it off...

 

[goatwack]

Jesus Christ, can't look away from the news for five minutes without some wanton act of violence playing out somewhere.

Can't say it's not likely to inspire further incidents, but let's hope it doesn't. I'm hurt by the events of yesterday too but shan't imagine throwing bricks at mosques is particularly conducive to anything, other than just spite and frustration. And round and round we go.....

 

[ollygarch]

Rayner says she is going to put up taxes to fill the hole in finances. What a surprise.

OMG I meant Rachel Reeves (chancellor), not Angela Rayner (deputy PM).

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Jesus Christ, can't look away from the news for five minutes without some wanton act of violence playing out somewhere.

Can't say it's not likely to inspire further incidents, but let's hope it doesn't. I'm hurt by the events of yesterday too but shan't imagine throwing bricks at mosques is particularly conducive to anything, other than just spite and frustration. And round and round we go.....

For starters the teenager was born in Britain, and his parents are Rwandan. Rwanda is a largely Christian country. So yes, attacking a Muslim place of worship seems an odd choice, although there were rumours swirling online that the murderer was a Muslim asylum seeker or something.

I imagine that the people rioting yesterday, who ended up putting 27 police officers in hospital, are exactly the same people who, in the aftermath of the Manchester Airport incident, were saying that the punishment for punching the police should be getting your head stamped on.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Rayner says she is going to put up taxes to fill the hole in finances. What a surprise.

Let's see what taxes are chosen, capital gains tax is the obvious one, which is basically a tax dodge rich people use to evade the top rate of tax that everyone else who earns over a certain threshold has to pay.

Labour have already ruled out increasing the primary taxes that most working people pay, which is good, so hopefully they'll tap a bit of money out of the wealthy to help get the country back on its feet, as opposed to milking average working folk and then hosing the cash into the pockets of their mates, which is what the Tories did.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This is deeply irresponsible, the worst kind of 'just asking questions' dog-whistling rhetoric that feeds into the scenes of rioting and violence we saw last night.

If Farage had bothered to attend parliament yesterday to listen to the statement about the Southport attacks, he could have asked his questions there, and been furnished with the facts. Still, that would have involved him doing his actual job instead of grifting.

 

[goatwack]

Nyeh, whilst questions are valid in of themselves, coupled with media outlets' insta-obfuscation of naming terrorist offences as such, more often than not citing mental health as the outlier, the PR control is plain to see.

In light of how recently this played out however, the timing of the statement does indeed smack of insensitivity and a tad agenda-laden, given a vigil was held merely yesterday. Tapping in to people's anger is the done thing it seems, when calm messaging would be more helpful in this moment, that much is true.

So it's left to the mother of one of the girls to appeal for calm when all around her are losing their civility, which is shameful in itself.

Of note is how, as per usual, those involved in the carnage weren't you or I, but the usual rabble-rousers that bring nothing to the table and whose eyes light up when they receive their calling.

And following a peaceful vigil last night where thousands of mourners had gathered for a vigil to remember the victims who lost their lives, violent thugs were accused of showing 'no respect to a town that's grieving'. Crowds of yobs - many of whom are thought to have come from outside Southport - torched a police van and left 39 officers and three dogs injured, including 27 who needed treatment in hospital

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Crowds of yobs - many of whom are thought to have come from outside Southport - torched a police van and left 39 officers and three dogs injured, including 27 who needed treatment in hospital

Outsiders coming into an area and fucking a load of shit up eh? I thought that was what the migrants did.....

On the plus side, someone has set Bollock Brick Moron to music.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A picture speaks a thousand words and all that.

 

[dunover]

A picture speaks a thousand words and all that.

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Funny you never put a single image up, made a single comment, when muslims were acting up outside Rochdale police station? Mmmmm....

Or the Roma 'community' were doing the same in Leeds?

The badge of the self-loathing white liberal, despised by his own kind, pitied as a useful idiot by the other side.

 

[goatwack]

Ignoring the dramaturgical title, a little piece from the events in Trafalgar Square, showing different sides in among the hustle and bustle.

Fairly long but interesting nonetheless, probably best encapsulated in the Final Thoughts segment right at its conclusion!

 

[geordiecolin]

Outsiders coming into an area and fucking a load of shit up eh? I thought that was what the migrants did.....

On the plus side, someone has set Bollock Brick Moron to music.

loved his Brick Jagger dance after the third struck

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Funny you never put a single image up, made a single comment, when muslims were acting up outside Rochdale police station? Mmmmm....

Or the Roma 'community' were doing the same in Leeds?

The badge of the self-loathing white liberal, despised by his own kind, pitied as a useful idiot by the other side.

Why does there have to be sides? This is what Britishness is to me, a local community rallying around to help each other, irrespective of race, or religion, or skin colour, or anything else. Just good human beings supporting each other in their time of need, now that the racist hate-filled mob has pissed off back under the rock it crawled out from.

 

[mack341]

A picture speaks a thousand words and all that.

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So what is the solution then, is it 'what we need to do is come together and sing kumbaya'

Political decisions have brought us here, I'd say 9/10 wherever in Europe there's a stabbing or other deadly violent event, it involves a foreigner or immigrant, 2nd, 3rd generation or recent.

It cannot be a coincidence, the idea we just have to put up with it as a cost of the 'benefits' of a multicultural society won't hold.

Nigel Farage as a politician seeking change is entitled to react politically, is he serving the greater good (in the long run) by holding his peace, I do understand the feeling it's tasteless and opportunistic, but a person carried out this attack who it's strongly arguable shouldn't be here in the 1st place.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So what is the solution then, is it 'what we need to do is come together and sing kumbaya'

Political decisions have brought us here, I'd say 9/10 wherever in Europe there's a stabbing or other deadly violent event, it involves a foreigner or immigrant, 2nd, 3rd generation or recent.

It cannot be a coincidence, the idea we just have to put up with it as a cost of the 'benefits' of a multicultural society won't hold.

Nigel Farage as a politician seeking change is entitled to react politically, is he serving the greater good (in the long run) by holding his peace, I do understand the feeling it's tasteless and opportunistic, but a person carried out this attack who it's strongly arguable shouldn't be here in the 1st place.

Yes what we need is more flag waving English patriots!

Erm, attacking and hospitalising the police whilst terrorising a local community. Stories abound of children cowering in fear inside their houses whilst a racist white wing mob smashed the whole place up and left it looking like a warzone.

 

[mack341]

Yes what we need is more flag waving English patriots!

Erm, attacking and hospitalising the police whilst terrorising a local community. Stories abound of children cowering in fear inside their houses whilst a racist white wing mob smashed the whole place up and left it looking like a warzone.

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I asked what your solution was, you're the one in favour of immigration so the onus is on you (libs in general) to remedy an obvious issue, violent crime by these imported people.

If you sit on your hands (liberal politicians, which includes the current tories) then mob reaction will occur, that's obvious isn't it?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I asked what your solution was, you're the one in favour of immigration so the onus is on you (libs in general) to remedy an obvious issue, violent crime by these imported people.

If you sit on your hands (liberal politicians, which includes the current tories) then mob reaction will occur, that's obvious isn't it?

You're far more likely to be treated by an immigrant in a hospital than you are to be the victim of a crime committed by an immigrant.

The attacks of a couple of days ago that led to the tragic death of three young girls were absolutely monstrous, but it was the foul work of one young man who we still don't know the full story about. We do know however that he was born in Wales to parents who, by all accounts, having settled in the UK, had been leading decent, hard working lives.

The idea that the following mob violence was in any way inevitable, justified, or an 'obvious' result is a nonsense. I see they're at it again in London this evening, crime after crime after crime being committed by those fine upstanding English blokes. The other week the locking up of the Just Stop Oil protestors for years and years was being celebrated by some here at CM, let's hope the same principle applies to the thugs who were tearing up Southport yesterday evening, and are doing so again in London tonight eh?

 

[goatwack]

I think one thing that's generally agreed upon is that the violence on all sides is as a direct result of politicians' failings and indifference, for many years now.

Worth noting that for the current resentment on show is at the 'extremist' end of Islamification of the UK, and how these religious zealots have not only got here, but are free to exact their fundamentalist cleansing of anyone who's not Muslim.

Meanwhile, everyday Muslims are tarred with the same brush and I'd imagine sick of the stigma too, whilst the media and police bend over backwards to protect extremists. I'd imagine killing children at a Taylor Swift-themed activity may well be where people had enough of the gaslighting, and who can blame them.

At least Anzem Choudary's been jailed for life, even if it took just the 10 years of his openly declaring Jihad on the UK......whilst living in the UK.

I think Tony Blair sums it up somewhat succinctly:

 

[mack341]

You're far more likely to be treated by an immigrant in a hospital than you are to be the victim of a crime committed by an immigrant.

The attacks of a couple of days ago that led to the tragic death of three young girls were absolutely monstrous, but it was the foul work of one young man who we still don't know the full story about. We do know however that he was born in Wales to parents who, by all accounts, having settled in the UK, had been leading decent, hard working lives.

The idea that the following mob violence was in any way inevitable, justified, or an 'obvious' result is a nonsense. I see they're at it again in London this evening, crime after crime after crime being committed by those fine upstanding English blokes. The other week the locking up of the Just Stop Oil protestors for years and years was being celebrated by some here at CM, let's hope the same principle applies to the thugs who were tearing up Southport yesterday evening, and are doing so again in London tonight eh?


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So in your mind normal people would just accept the stabbing as just one of those bad things in modern life, an isolated incident that could happen anywhere with the same chance?

You seem to be in evading mode with these replies, I'm more likely to be treated by an immigrant than attacked by one, wow that's reassuring.

Was that the case in the 80s as well, the truth is we could manage quite fine as before, but deranged liberals have imposed their outlook and we're suffering the consequences.

 

[geordiecolin]

I asked what your solution was, you're the one in favour of immigration so the onus is on you (libs in general) to remedy an obvious issue, violent crime by these imported people.

If you sit on your hands (liberal politicians, which includes the current tories) then mob reaction will occur, that's obvious isn't it?

Both the Tories and Labour are in lockstep over immigration as with many key policies because they are beholding to their overlords at the WEF. As are governments and opposition in most 1st world countries. They just bicker about the small stuff like a married couple. And the people of their countries are in trouble if they do not obey.
They and the media are responsible for giving misinformation and/or withholding information that leads to distrust and conflicts. Withheld video of the Asians clocking the police in Manchester leaving us furious about police brutality. Now we have this about the poor kids stabbing.
They have a department that they turn too called The Controlled Spontenuity Department where when anything that could be triggering is managed.
Nobody was given a vote on allowing illegals in to change our way of life so drastically.
Then you have the likes of Alistair Campbell asking Twitter to clamp down of misinfo when he conned the country into going into an illegal war that killed millions.
We have a very confused and frustrated population and the truth is Labour and the Conservatives seem to just expect us to suck it up

 

[geordiecolin]

I think one thing that's generally agreed upon is that the violence on all sides is as a direct result of politicians' failings and indifference, for many years now.

Worth noting that for the current resentment on show is at the 'extremist' end of Islamification of the UK, and how these religious zealots have not only got here, but are free to exact their fundamentalist cleansing of anyone who's not Muslim.

Meanwhile, everyday Muslims are tarred with the same brush and I'd imagine sick of the stigma too, whilst the media and police bend over backwards to protect extremists. I'd imagine killing children at a Taylor Swift-themed activity may well be where people had enough of the gaslighting, and who can blame them.

At least Anzem Choudary's been jailed for life, even if it took just the 10 years of his openly declaring Jihad on the UK......whilst living in the UK.

I think Tony Blair sums it up somewhat succinctly:

He is saying that because he is tasked with pushing our country into introducing a digital ID system and it will be offered to track illegals (and everybody else)

 

[goatwack]

He is saying that because he is tasked with pushing our country into introducing a digital ID system and it will be offered to track illegals (and everybody else)

Was he not referencing Muslim extremism?

 

[geordiecolin]

Was he not referencing Muslim extremism?

He is providing a solution to the issues that concern people a lot when in fact as his position in the WEF is concerned he is getting everyone to nod yes yes yes to adopting the digital ID that they have been wanting for a long time. And so much will then be added to that ID
It would be interesting to see the full interview

 

[goatwack]

You're far more likely to be treated by an immigrant in a hospital than you are to be the victim of a crime committed by an immigrant.

The attacks of a couple of days ago that led to the tragic death of three young girls were absolutely monstrous, but it was the foul work of one young man who we still don't know the full story about. We do know however that he was born in Wales to parents who, by all accounts, having settled in the UK, had been leading decent, hard working lives.

The idea that the following mob violence was in any way inevitable, justified, or an 'obvious' result is a nonsense. I see they're at it again in London this evening, crime after crime after crime being committed by those fine upstanding English blokes. The other week the locking up of the Just Stop Oil protestors for years and years was being celebrated by some here at CM, let's hope the same principle applies to the thugs who were tearing up Southport yesterday evening, and are doing so again in London tonight eh?


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Still puzzled as to how you can conflate Immigration with Illegal Immigration, let alone the root cause of the hostilities we're witnessing, which is extremism, predominantly of the Muslim variety?

Is it that difficult to acknowledge for you, that extremism is rife in the UK and the cause of many of these deaths? How are NHS or Health care workers from India or Italy even in the same breath as the topic being discussed, namely unvetted fanatics running amok?

As for the events in London, I noticed batons flailing wildly and officers arresting protestors with brute force, whilst opting to leg it during the Leeds riots. Somewhat 2-tiered and disproportionate policing, and not really doing much to dissuade anyone that certain groups are most certainly protected over others.

When not doling out beatings to people angered over children being murdered, I noticed police pluck out people standing there quietly like a fairground prize claw, many of which had nothing to do with any skirmishes, perhaps you just missed it.

Somewhat incredulous to also conflate Just Stop Oil with the events and subsequent fury as a result of the Southport killings, but there you go!

Some violent far-right protestors being led away, probably

 

[ollygarch]

Unfortunately in this case most things adopted in the USA end up here a few years later. I'm talking extreme political idealism and racial hatred. It's time to end the 'special relationship' and tell those ******* Yanks what we really think of them. Reiterate we are a law abiding democratic country.

 

[thr0b]

It’s happening already. Knuckle-dragging morons rioting because of an atrocity. Their riots achieve nothing, hinder more, but they’re right there in the thick of it setting fire to property. Bunch of cunts.

 

[DreamRJ]

I hope this is not the start and a repeat of what happened in 2011.

The points I have made over and over about far right extremists proves my point. Totally disgraceful. All because of fake posts made on X and other social media. I am utterly disgusted in all of them.

I hope they all get caught and held to account for the carnage they are causing, also the shocking and racist attacks on individuals as well. I saw some videos of them attacking innocent bystanders because of the color of their skin........

I am so damn sick of the far right scumbags. Lock them all up and throw away the key.

I really hope it does not lead to buildings being set ablaze again.