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General Election 2024 Thread

geordiecolin said:
Given that Trump has attracted a lot of Billionaire donors this time I wouldn't be so sure that the list of positives would be so long next time if he got in. Billionaires are usually also associated with the WEF and we all know how politicians and Parties can be influenced by lobbyists and world bodies.
It is the world bodies that are responsible for huge immigration after all.
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Some billionaires. Lots arent. Elon Musk for example who has endorsed Trump.

All we have to go off is his previous tenure in the white house and what he says. If he proves otherwise then Ill be quick to kick him in the balls too
 
Kroffe said:
Not sure i would put Tigger as best friend, surely Piglet and possibly also Christopher Robin would be higher up on the best friend list.
And while i am a big fan of Poohs early work i think some of his recent career choices have been questionable.




Edit: My god, there is already a sequel.

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WINNIE TO POOH.
Is body positive

Only wears a crop top

Just wants to eat honey

Great friend to his anxious and depressed friends

Loves sleeping for 10 hours plus

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geordiecolin said:
WINNIE TO POOH.
Is body positive

Only wears a crop top

Just wants to eat honey

Great friend to his anxious and depressed friends

Loves sleeping for 10 hours plus

A proper gay Icon
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I sort of thought Pooh and Christopher were a little flaky. What would that be called? Not inter-racial right? :oops::oops::oops::oops:
 
I have just been sent this from one of my daughters and she is really stressed about everything. It looks like there are plans being made in advance of some horrible incidents.
Did Starma know in advance that prison room would be needed? Governments are know to create situations that advance their aims?
Piles of bricks near hotspots. Planted agitators etc.

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Sounds wild over there. The police arent helping the matters at all either. Instead of trying to be calm, they are grabbing journalists microphones and throwing them on the ground when they dont like the questions.

Canada vs UK. Who has a more tyrannical government? Gotta be close
 
lockinlove said:
Sounds wild over there. The police arent helping the matters at all either. Instead of trying to be calm, they are grabbing journalists microphones and throwing them on the ground when they dont like the questions.

Canada vs UK. Who has a more tyrannical government? Gotta be close
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Starma was asked if he prefers dealing at Davos or in the UK and he said Davos. That is where he gets his instructions from just like Trudeau in Canada and so many around the World.

 
I see ITV are in hot water after Ed Balls (ex Labour MP) interviews the Labour Home Secretary Yvette Cooper, who just so happens to be his missus! :laugh::laugh:
 
dunover said:
I see ITV are in hot water after Ed Balls (ex Labour MP) interviews the Labour Home Secretary Yvette Cooper, who just so happens to be his missus! :laugh::laugh:
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Crazy, I mean surely ITV should have realised how bad that would look and be? I never liked Ed Balls and not a fan of Yvette Cooper either.
 
geordiecolin said:
Starma was asked if he prefers dealing at Davos or in the UK and he said Davos. That is where he gets his instructions from just like Trudeau in Canada and so many around the World.

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I think that's why people are fed up with the mass immigration too. They know politcians are trying to bring in voters. Lets be real here. Since when has a politician done something on this scale, just to be nice? Not often.

Who are immigrants going to vote for? The people trying to stop it or the people who are allowing their entire familiy tree over?

Lets just suddenly open borders and let millions upon millions in over a super short period of time. Nobody with even 10% of a brain would think that's a good idea. Knowing damn well it will overwhelm housing, economy, healthcare and create chaos.

Only one reason.

Think about it. If they end up bringing enough over, they remain in power forever.
 
lockinlove said:
I think that's why people are fed up with the mass immigration too. They know politcians are trying to bring in voters. Lets be real here. Since when has a politician done something on this scale, just to be nice? Not often.

Who are immigrants going to vote for? The people trying to stop it or the people who are allowing their entire familiy tree over?

Lets just suddenly open borders and let millions upon millions in over a super short period of time. Nobody with even 10% of a brain would think that's a good idea. Knowing damn well it will overwhelm housing, economy, healthcare and create chaos.

Only one reason.

Think about it. If they end up bringing enough over, they remain in power forever.
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It should be an utter insult to the entire American population what Biden has done. And the boarder Tzar is running to admit more in the hope of securing power for years to come no matter what damage it will do to her country.
This is all with the nod from from the WEF,NATO, and WHO and the most powerful of all- Israel.

The goal? A one world government with one world dancing to their tune. A New World Order.
It may take a long time but social manipulation will have to take place first because people hate change.
 
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lockinlove said:
What's MDL?
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Exactly. It is as if they have been responsible for nothing and have been inactive this past week.
I have a lot of sympathy for their concerns but it is as if their concerns are being suppressed ;Because a lot goes against government and another countries policies.
Muslim Defence League.
Even writing the full word brings up quite moderate articles. If it was not for Twitter/x influence it would only show incipid stuff.
 
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geordiecolin said:
Exactly. It is as if they have been responsible for nothing and have been inactive this past week.
I have a lot of sympathy for their concerns but it is as if their concerns are being suppressed ;Because a lot goes against government and another countries policies.
Muslim Defence League.
Even writing the full word brings up quite moderate articles. If it was not for Twitter/x influence it would only show incipid stuff.
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Yeah I never even heard of that and keep fairly updated on politics.
 
geordiecolin said:
It should be an utter insult to the entire American population what Biden has done. And the boarder Tzar is running to admit more in the hope of securing power for years to come no matter what damage it will do to her country.
This is all with the nod from from the WEF,NATO, and WHO and the most powerful of all- Israel.

The goal? A one world government with one world dancing to their tune. A New World Order.
It may take a long time but social manipulation will have to take place first because people hate change.
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His job is to protect the citizens of the USA. Opening borders and letting millions of people just walk across without checking most of them is on purpose. I think every single level headed person is fine with immigration as long as it's done properly.

There is a system in place for a reason. It's not like some guy sat in his chair one day and said oh hey lets only allow this amount per year. It's well thought and well planned by experts to deter overwhelming a country.

To ignore those policies should land him and his party in prison.

And now look what's being done. We have democrats in some states demanding voter ID be demolished and stating its racist to ask people for ID before voting. WTF?

Craziness. Im honestly shocked at the patience the US citizens have had. I think they know, once they start doing what UK is doing, not sure it can be stopped. Americans have sat around and been slapped around by BS policies for years now.

We will have to see what happens after this election. I wont be surpised to wake up and see a civil war. But I also wont be surprised if people do nothing.
 
lockinlove said:
Yeah I never even heard of that and keep fairly updated on politics.
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I think we are about too. But not before they have muppets who could organise protests in detention first or at the same time as their mention. The important thing is to continue the influx to crush our idea of what is English.
We all have innate ability to welcome people.
 
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lockinlove said:
His job is to protect the citizens of the USA. Opening borders and letting millions of people just walk across without checking most of them is on purpose. I think every single level headed person is fine with immigration as long as it's done properly.

There is a system in place for a reason. It's not like some guy sat in his chair one day and said oh hey lets only allow this amount per year. It's well thought and well planned by experts to deter overwhelming a country.

To ignore those policies should land him and his party in prison.

And now look what's being done. We have democrats in some states demanding voter ID be demolished and stating its racist to ask people for ID before voting. WTF?into

Craziness. Im honestly shocked at the patience the US citizens have had. I think they know, once they start doing what UK is doing, not sure it can be stopped. Americans have sat around and been slapped around by BS policies for years now.

We will have to see what happens after this election. I wont be surpised to wake up and see a civil war. But I also wont be surprised if people do nothing.
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Most people have a strong ability to except both other cultures and religions. And given our indoctrination in to feeling that we are always being unreasonable it will continue. Especially when descenting voices get quelled and or imprisoned.
We as little people are so easily manipulated. From the military to the police and those who seek to be in politics.
Even history is manipulated.
 
geordiecolin said:
Maybe a brief synopsis would be helpful. I found Hamlet ( 1996 ) a chore.
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The opening monologue (around 20 minutes) will do the job, and puts it all far more eloquently than I ever could.

The rest of the show is him taking callers from British people who feel scared, and confused, and upset, and angry about what is happening to their country.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
Every minute of this.



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I have just watched the first 20 minutes and he does make valid points about stupid people believing everything that they are told. But that is true on both sides of the fence. And he comes across as if he has an "I'm all right Jack, your just bitter and envious"
As an example of how communities have suffered directly is the quantity of Hotel staff who lost their jobs due to the greed of Hotel owners converting to the governments housing schemes for immigrants. Up to a 100 or more in each case. Working class wages lost.

Then there is O'brien trying to manipulate the narrative by being very very economical with the truth while talking about murders of black people by white's. Here he is conveniently leaving out the fact that the "white" killer was in fact a Brazilian migrant.

 
Here’s the thing though - many of those hotels would’ve closed as unviable anyway. They’re businesses at the end of the day, and a guaranteed block-booking will make sense to them, and may prevent the business closing in the long term.

I know of at least two long-standing hotels which following the ending of their temporary contracts to house asylum seekers have closed entirely.

Others get some refurbs done as a result of the government payments and reopen at a later date.

Of course, had the Tories not defunded the system, the use of hotels long-term wouldn’t have needed to happen.
 
In the early 2000s I used to listen to his mid morning show (yes that's how long he's been going on lbc)

And he advocated for the iraq invasion, he's an absolute tool who can make his 'principles' flexible as and when the need arises.

Champagne socialist is a good description, advocates for immigration and then makes sure he lives in as white/British, low crime district of london he can find.
 
thr0b said:
Here’s the thing though - many of those hotels would’ve closed as unviable anyway. They’re businesses at the end of the day, and a guaranteed block-booking will make sense to them, and may prevent the business closing in the long term.

I know of at least two long-standing hotels which following the ending of their temporary contracts to house asylum seekers have closed entirely.

Others get some refurbs done as a result of the government payments and reopen at a later date.

Of course, had the Tories not defunded the system, the use of hotels long-term wouldn’t have needed to happen.
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Yeah, the owners swanning off into the sunset with their pockets bulging.
 
mack341 said:
In the early 2000s I used to listen to his mid morning show (yes that's how long he's been going on lbc)

And he advocated for the iraq invasion, he's an absolute tool who can make his 'principles' flexible as and when the need arises.

Champagne socialist is a good description, advocates for immigration and then makes sure he lives in as white/British, low crime district of london he can find.
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Like most hacks he will stick to his paymasters narratives for the sake of his pay check
 
Someone else’s work, but this is the situation in a nutshell.

Okay. Facts first. We need to separate immigration, refugees/asylum seekers and actual illegal migrants.

- The UK handles around 30-40k asylum claims a year
- By comparison France deals with about 80-100k and Germany well over 100k
- We're about 17th in the EU 27+ for per capita asylum claims
- Over 75% of asylum claims turn out to be valid
- Due to the Rwanda scheme we haven't been processing any claims for the past couple.of years
- As a result we have been putting people in unbooked hotels, disused military bases etc.
Because the Tories cut all services to the bone and the system cannot cope

While someone's asylum claim is being processed they get a bed, a roof over their head, a pittance to cover food and they cannot legally work

The whole small boats thing could have been prevented if we had opened up the safe asylum routes we promised or a processing centre in France which the French are more than happy for us to do.

So that's asylum seekers.
Basically asylum seekers hub bub is just political theatre.

While screaming about foreigners coming to the UK, the Tories offered British passports to 3 million Hong Kong Chinese

Okay, since Brexit the UK has been screaming for migrant workers. To the point that during the pandemic there was an exception made to fly in Eastern European workers to work on UK farms.

Lack of access to cheap seasonal labour from the EU is crippling UK fruit and veg farming.

Immigration is also vital for helping with the aging population. Something the German government worked out a while ago.

Much like the 50s + 60s windrush generation and the influx of the Asian community in the 60s + 70s. The influx of Eastern Europeans has been to fill a gap in the work force.

In rural areas this has been fruit pickers, in cities it's been builders, brickies, cleaners and other trades

A lot of the UK's lorry drivers were Eastern European and because (Unlike the EU).the UK hasn't spent the past decade building facilities and infrastructure for haulage. When COVID and Brexit hit all the lorry drivers were VERY happy to tell us to F off.

Now, I can understand some folks getting upset. Access to cheap European labour in the trades and jobs like merchant seamen, dockers etc keeps wages down. Which sucks double with an anti-Union government.

If you're in a small rural community, suddenly influxes of people with a different language and culture can feel really threatening and disruptive.

Where I am in Sheffield we have a big Czech Roma community. Across Europe they've been persecuted and it's taking them time to adjust. This can cause tensions with a fairly devout Muslim population but we're getting there.

The difference we have now is that. In the EU, a lot of the Polish, Czech and Slovenians would work in the UK for a few years. Make a few bob and then go back to the continent.

We now have more immigration from outside of the EU but without the flexibility the EU provided.

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All the fear about asylum seekers is BS. Much like the Southern border problem in the US it's fixable but the Far-Right don't want to actually fix it.

The UK actively needs immigration to deal with gaps in the workforce NHS, trades etc. and young foreign workers paying taxes etc helps with our aging population and pensions problems.

Yes, the system needs reform
Yes, it needs managing
As foreign workers affect wages for low paid jobs, can appear in large concentrations in small communities or end up a bit ghettoised there are serious cultural bridges that need to be crossed.

This is especially important for policing, education, social care etc.

eg the riot in Leeds a couple.of weeks ago resulted from Police and social services moving in as there had been reports of a small child being thrown out of a window.

However, it's a close knit Roma community seeing the authorities coming in to break-up a family.
 
thr0b said:
Someone else’s work, but this is the situation in a nutshell.

Okay. Facts first. We need to separate immigration, refugees/asylum seekers and actual illegal migrants.

- The UK handles around 30-40k asylum claims a year
- By comparison France deals with about 80-100k and Germany well over 100k
- We're about 17th in the EU 27+ for per capita asylum claims
- Over 75% of asylum claims turn out to be valid
- Due to the Rwanda scheme we haven't been processing any claims for the past couple.of years
- As a result we have been putting people in unbooked hotels, disused military bases etc.
Because the Tories cut all services to the bone and the system cannot cope

While someone's asylum claim is being processed they get a bed, a roof over their head, a pittance to cover food and they cannot legally work

The whole small boats thing could have been prevented if we had opened up the safe asylum routes we promised or a processing centre in France which the French are more than happy for us to do.

So that's asylum seekers.
Basically asylum seekers hub bub is just political theatre.

While screaming about foreigners coming to the UK, the Tories offered British passports to 3 million Hong Kong Chinese

Okay, since Brexit the UK has been screaming for migrant workers. To the point that during the pandemic there was an exception made to fly in Eastern European workers to work on UK farms.

Lack of access to cheap seasonal labour from the EU is crippling UK fruit and veg farming.

Immigration is also vital for helping with the aging population. Something the German government worked out a while ago.

Much like the 50s + 60s windrush generation and the influx of the Asian community in the 60s + 70s. The influx of Eastern Europeans has been to fill a gap in the work force.

In rural areas this has been fruit pickers, in cities it's been builders, brickies, cleaners and other trades

A lot of the UK's lorry drivers were Eastern European and because (Unlike the EU).the UK hasn't spent the past decade building facilities and infrastructure for haulage. When COVID and Brexit hit all the lorry drivers were VERY happy to tell us to F off.

Now, I can understand some folks getting upset. Access to cheap European labour in the trades and jobs like merchant seamen, dockers etc keeps wages down. Which sucks double with an anti-Union government.

If you're in a small rural community, suddenly influxes of people with a different language and culture can feel really threatening and disruptive.

Where I am in Sheffield we have a big Czech Roma community. Across Europe they've been persecuted and it's taking them time to adjust. This can cause tensions with a fairly devout Muslim population but we're getting there.

The difference we have now is that. In the EU, a lot of the Polish, Czech and Slovenians would work in the UK for a few years. Make a few bob and then go back to the continent.

We now have more immigration from outside of the EU but without the flexibility the EU provided.

TL:DR
All the fear about asylum seekers is BS. Much like the Southern border problem in the US it's fixable but the Far-Right don't want to actually fix it.

The UK actively needs immigration to deal with gaps in the workforce NHS, trades etc. and young foreign workers paying taxes etc helps with our aging population and pensions problems.

Yes, the system needs reform
Yes, it needs managing
As foreign workers affect wages for low paid jobs, can appear in large concentrations in small communities or end up a bit ghettoised there are serious cultural bridges that need to be crossed.

This is especially important for policing, education, social care etc.

eg the riot in Leeds a couple.of weeks ago resulted from Police and social services moving in as there had been reports of a small child being thrown out of a window.

However, it's a close knit Roma community seeing the authorities coming in to break-up a family.
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What's needed in the UK is a political party to have the courage to tell the truth about immigration. Namely that it's a net positive for the UK and, also, absolutely essential - for all the reasons listed above.

It's happening on the IOM too, but here it's not even particularly controversial, albeit it needs to be managed and the government acknowledges that it's important that public services, quality of schooling, health care etc are maintained.

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ChopleyIOM said:
Darren Grimes eh? Not that he'd be one to stoke the flames of racial hatred or anything.

I've scraped nicer things than him off the bottom of my shoes.

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Darren Grimes eh? Not that he'd be one to stoke the flames of racial hatred or anything.

I've scraped nicer things than him off the bottom of my shoes.

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Immigration is not as bad as people think! Meanwhile Al Qaeda flags being flown in Britain. No matter what is shown, the left will pretend this isnt happening just because god forbid they admit they are wrong. Instead, excuses will be made.

Crazy
 

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mack341 said:
In the early 2000s I used to listen to his mid morning show (yes that's how long he's been going on lbc)

And he advocated for the iraq invasion, he's an absolute tool who can make his 'principles' flexible as and when the need arises.

Champagne socialist is a good description, advocates for immigration and then makes sure he lives in as white/British, low crime district of london he can find.
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JoB is another multi millionaire virtue signaller like Lineker.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
What's needed in the UK is a political party to have the courage to tell the truth about immigration. Namely that it's a net positive for the UK and, also, absolutely essential - for all the reasons listed above.

It's happening on the IOM too, but here it's not even particularly controversial, albeit it needs to be managed and the government acknowledges that it's important that public services, quality of schooling, health care etc are maintained.

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Yes. So where will it come from? The UK. Try selling that pup to the Manx population while telling them it will consist of Albanians, Syrians, Afghans, Somalis, Eritreans, Vietnamese, Bangladeshis etc. If Tynwald was serious, you could start with a safe haven for the 20-30,000 healthy young men who invade us from those places via France each year, problem sorted for the UK and IoM simultaneously!! A bit of joined-up thinking eh choppers?

Oh, hang on a minute....
 
Hey dont talk like that. It's perfectly acceptable to fly Isis/Al Qaeda flags in Britain. And then have the police walk by it and not care and instead arrest their own citizens for being upset over it

Perfectly normal and not agenda driven.
 

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