Gaming Analysis Group

[Balthazar]

I liked starburst, one of the NetEnts I miss. It's very pretty.

Not hijacking the thread but just a quick note to the future members of this group: Even though it's a very bad slot, Starburst's phenomenal success was largely due to its graphics (literally effortless to differentiate one symbol from the other) and the overall easy-on-the-eye background/colors. It's almost a relaxing experience which is why you can easily get caught playing for far too long for your own good. Same thing with Bonanza (minus the music).

That's also IMO the main reason why people don't play Afterline Inferno. It's just not a relaxing slot to play; symbols are WAY too similar, theme is too dark.

 

[bonustreak]

This is great! About time Neil actually does some work

 

[bebo67]

Ohh Ohhh oHhhh

Everybody be aware

Actually. True story, but I'm a very nice person in real life. Except when I don't have a smoke.

 

[robby811]

Actually. True story, but I'm a very nice person in real life. Except when I don't have a smoke.

Dont drink and drive Smoke and Fly ?!? Nice its legalized at your country ?! I m glad that i live 2km next to Holland

 

[Jono777]

Actually. True story, but I'm a very nice person in real life. Except when I don't have a smoke.

Similar here lol, need my smokes but generally a top bloke

Also evil if my deposit lasts less than 10 minutes like just now but I do get over it quick.

 

[SlotGrinder]

Can I be a tester ?
I always play the new games on VS no matter how bad they are at least for like 10 spins anyway

 

[lotusch]

Great idea this and I am very sure this is gonna be a very popular thread.
I am really looking forward to see what will come out of this brainstorm group.

Needless to say I'd love to be involved in some testing if I would be deemed worthy.

 

[neilw]

This is great! About time Neil actually does some work

Who rattled your cage

 

[geordiecolin]

This is a great idea. Good luck with it

 

[bebo67]

Similar here lol, need my smokes but generally a top bloke

Also evil if my deposit lasts less than 10 minutes like just now but I do get over it quick.

I'm so use to advocating on everything in my real life. Sometimes I don't know when to stop.

 

[bebo67]

Dont drink and drive Smoke and Fly ?!? Nice its legalized at your country ?! I m glad that i live 2km next to Holland

I haven't smoked weed since I was a teen, and even then, it was strictly hash. Hash was so good back then! Nice and gummy. Now you cant get it unless you make it yourself and even then, its too crystallized. The 80's are long gone

 

[goatwack]

So all testers will be doing bongs and blunts for this project? Slot testing has taken on a whole new significance it seems!

 

[bebo67]

So all testers will be doing bongs and blunts for this project? Slot testing has taken on a whole new significance it seems!

@ blunts. Experienced?

 

[goatwack]

@ blunts. Experienced?

I hate the stuff but in London it's quite the popular pastime

 

[slotmaster]

So all testers will be doing bongs and blunts for this project? Slot testing has taken on a whole new significance it seems!

It's legal here now.

But yes great idea and very interesting stuff this group idea.

 

[dunover]

Before this thread descends in to the predictable irreverence and irrelevance I will tell you where we're at:

Right now, with the vital assistance of missus dunover the tester crib sheet Word Doc is being finalised, which the chosen few will need to complete as and when a contract is undertaken.

With similar assistance the customer report document template is done.

Over the weekend when time permits I will PM the long list and spread of testers required. Those confirming they are up for it will then be put in the dunover vault.

Some but not all will be selected when a new game contract is received by Admin.

You will simply receive a demo link via e-mail and an attached Word doc which you can fill, save changes on and return.

Due to confidentiality other forum members most probably won't be aware if any game released in future has benefited from our service, but if it's a good one, you never know!

 

[Supababe]

Congrats @dunover x

Whilst I’ve only been around the forum a short while, ive tried to be a very active and productive CM member.

I’ve played online for years on many different typrs of slots.

I’m sure that you have plenty of females on your list but I would be honoured and humbled if you were to consider me (also an old fart) as being worthy of sharing my opinions (which is ranked highly on my skill set lol).

 

[pinnit2014]

Females on a list...sounds a bit nefarious...

Supa's just interested because she's heard it's Sweet Alchemy 2 - Remixing the Elixir

 

[Dinahnana]

This project is great maybe finally we will get some developers listening to us for a change

 

[mcgameboy]

Well done Mr. D and congrats on being a "blue-lettered boy" into the bargain. But if you think I'm going to start showing you respect because you've got blue letters now, you've got another thing coming

But on a serious note though, you are an ideal candidate for spearheading this operation. I think (and hope) this will be a great success.

And it goes without saying, I would like to put my name forward for consideration as part of the....erm...."GAG Squad".

Best of luck with this project going forward mate.

 

[robby811]

blue-lettered boy" into the bargain.

german: in blauen buchstaben geschriebener Junge in was ???

 

[dunover]

blue-lettered boy" into the bargain.

german: in blauen buchstaben geschriebener Junge in was ???

Junge?? Mann!

 

[robby811]

young men ?!? = blue letterd boy ?? = nub ?

 

[Supababe]

Oh no! My inbox remains infuriatingly empty....

I keep popping onto the the forum in the hope of a little red ‘1’ next to my inbox.....message from Dunover....but alas, I feel that I am not worthy....

*Supa sobs loudly!

 

[dionysus]

Oh no! My inbox remains infuriatingly empty....

I keep popping onto the the forum in the hope of a little red ‘1’ next to my inbox.....message from Dunover....but alas, I feel that I am not worthy....

*Supa sobs loudly!

well, that lol, or hes incredibly busy setting things up and isnt quite ready to launch

 

[dunover]

Oh no! My inbox remains infuriatingly empty....

I keep popping onto the the forum in the hope of a little red ‘1’ next to my inbox.....message from Dunover....but alas, I feel that I am not worthy....

*Supa sobs loudly!

Don't worry I haven't sent them yet, just having a bit of aggro with the PM system which won't presently accept .docx extensions which is what the latest Word uses. It accepts .doc which is the old Word but then loses all its functionality when changed over and similarly I can send the document as a pdf which is equally useless as you'd all need a subscription to edit it, whereas the open Word docx is fine for you to fill and send back, it's all set up for anybody with a copy to edit.

This doesn't prevent me from sending a basic invite though and today is the target. Remember you'll not know who else has been invited to prevent any collusion on opinions which must be totally independent from each tester. It goes without saying DO NOT acknowledge on here that you've been invited!

Remember it's a confidential service and if anybody was aware you were involved you could be approached by forum infiltrators. Yes, it all sounds very MI5 but developers spend large amounts on new game models and a vital premise for the service is customer confidence in its integrity!

 

[Lemon]

If this venture results in fewer games like that abomination Laser Fruits then I'm all for it. I wonder how many developers will use the service, and which ones, and what type of slots they'll want feedback for.

 

[colinsunderland]

Can you not upload it to your website or Dropbox or somewhere, and just pm the link?

 

[dunover]

Can you not upload it to your website or Dropbox or somewhere, and just pm the link?

Yes, I though of that (as that's what I have to do with my videos now) and indeed it would be a work-around but to a customer this would look pretty insecure if they realised we were using that method and secondly I'd prefer to keep all communication within the CM messaging system and domain thus all security is ringfenced within. I am aware it's quite a simple tweak for Bryan's technical team to action shortly.

 

[bebo67]

Oh no! My inbox remains infuriatingly empty....

I keep popping onto the the forum in the hope of a little red ‘1’ next to my inbox.....message from Dunover....but alas, I feel that I am not worthy....

*Supa sobs loudly!

Lol. I keep looking too

 

[JGslots]

If this venture results in fewer games like that abomination Laser Fruits then I'm all for it. I wonder how many developers will use the service, and which ones, and what type of slots they'll want feedback for.

I think that slot is a total sham, purely to just con people into thinking it can pay its bolix off, when in reality the potential never surfaces, even those videos on YouTube show how awful it is when max ways are activated.

Rob

 

[paul7388]

Ruined my fun by saying selected members are not allowed to say.

I had a list of the members i was sure would be selected and the ones i thought had no chance.

Now i will never know how correct i was lol. Ruined my fun. But at least i know 100% one that won't be selected

 

[dunover]

Right I have sent the first batch out - as you may appreciate there are a huge chunk of members here in the male 40+ category for example, who are suitable but not all of whom I can add. In this case I have randomly selected enough names for my needs and the others remain in the pot. Any declines or no-replies from the initial batch of e-mails or subsequent drop-outs when the service has actually commenced will be replaced by another name from the pot in order that I can retain sufficient numbers!

Thanks D

 

[dionysus]

a huge chunk of members here in the male 40+ category

I can see the feedback now:

'More boobies'

'$%#&%$#'

'GET ORF MY LAWN'

'In MY DAY, slots had...'

'More boobies'

 

[dunover]

I can see the feedback now:

'More boobies'

'$%#&%$#'

'GET ORF MY LAWN'

'In MY DAY, slots had...'

'More boobies'

Or 'this game looks terrible through my bifocals'

 

[nikantw]

Right I have sent the first batch out - as you may appreciate there are a huge chunk of members here in the male 40+ category for example, who are suitable but not all of whom I can add. In this case I have randomly selected enough names for my needs and the others remain in the pot. Any declines or no-replies from the initial batch of e-mails or subsequent drop-outs when the service has actually commenced will be replaced by another name from the pot in order that I can retain sufficient numbers!

Thanks D

I am new in the 41+ category and I feel young anyway so feel free to have me on a younger one!

 

[Tirilej]

I am new in the 41+ category and I feel young anyway so feel free to have me on a younger one!

Aren't we all a tiny bit childish playing games online? I would say we are

 

[brianmon]

Right I have sent the first batch out - as you may appreciate there are a huge chunk of members here in the male 40+ category for example, who are suitable but not all of whom I can add. In this case I have randomly selected enough names for my needs and the others remain in the pot. Any declines or no-replies from the initial batch of e-mails or subsequent drop-outs when the service has actually commenced will be replaced by another name from the pot in order that I can retain sufficient numbers!

Thanks D

Maybe that's representative of the actual demographic of slot players?

Do designers target specific age groups with any particular new slot?
and if so, have you recruited enough pre-teens for any NetEnt games testing?

I'd have thought, that the more testers and opinions, the better it would be for the game designers.

 

[Steviedoo]

Right I have sent the first batch out - as you may appreciate there are a huge chunk of members here in the male 40+ category for example, who are suitable but not all of whom I can add. In this case I have randomly selected enough names for my needs and the others remain in the pot. Any declines or no-replies from the initial batch of e-mails or subsequent drop-outs when the service has actually commenced will be replaced by another name from the pot in order that I can retain sufficient numbers!

Thanks D

What about females in their 40s. Will your group be equally distributed\ represented?
I find that slots ignore us female slotters in any age category. And there are a lot us out here.

 

[bebo67]

What about females in their 40s. Will your group be equally distributed\ represented?
I find that slots ignore us female slotters in any age category. And there are a lot us out here.

On that premise. The over 50 females are screwed

 

[Tirilej]

What about females in their 40s. Will your group be equally distributed\ represented?
I find that slots ignore us female slotters in any age category. And there are a lot us out here.

In this forum I believe there are very few female slotters that are below 40, and I don't know if dunover knew how old everyone is until he have asked. We maybe are many women playing online but we are far from as many as the men and I believe it will stay that way statisticly too. We're a bit different. We play different and we think different. We are at least in this group at all and that I think is great thinking by dunover the blue

 

[dunover]

Maybe that's representative of the actual demographic of slot players?

Do designers target specific age groups with any particular new slot?
and if so, have you recruited enough pre-teens for any NetEnt games testing?

I'd have thought, that the more testers and opinions, the better it would be for the game designers.

Yes, I was hoping that someone would save me the temptation of posting that sort of comment!

OK, I'll try and answer your point and the others made above and below:

Yes, the female/male spread is very definitely heavily weighted towards males of a certain age both here and the casino customer bases. The testers I have got thus far are balanced to represent that so indeed, we do have a near pro-rata reflection amongst those I have contacted. If there's any slight bias in my selection I'd say it's because I've possibly got one or two more females than I should. This may transpire to be moot IF the customer on any given project asks specifically for mainly female opinions, or males from the UK say or insinuates any particular market their game is aimed at. That is why our testers may vary from job to job.

I have also represented as many different countries as possible in my list as we can glean any differences between markets that may occur.

I could have filled the list in 10 minutes if I were to select only UK males aged 40+ for example! It was quite difficult to strike a balance and check all boxes but I believe I am as near the optimum tester pool as I can be. I will also make every effort to spread the opportunity for involvement; for example if there's 2 UK males 40+ in the first job, I will endeavour to use an alternative two in the same category for the next. Many of the age groups as Tirilej stated I didn't know until I received their replies.

I also have a reserve pool to contact to replace any no-shows or rejections and let me make it clear that these aren't second choices but simply those in any given demographic that I didn't select originally but would have been equally suitable!

 

[mcgameboy]

Don't worry I haven't sent them yet, just having a bit of aggro with the PM system which won't presently accept .docx extensions which is what the latest Word uses. It accepts .doc which is the old Word but then loses all its functionality when changed over and similarly I can send the document as a pdf which is equally useless as you'd all need a subscription to edit it, whereas the open Word docx is fine for you to fill and send back, it's all set up for anybody with a copy to edit.

This doesn't prevent me from sending a basic invite though and today is the target. Remember you'll not know who else has been invited to prevent any collusion on opinions which must be totally independent from each tester. It goes without saying DO NOT acknowledge on here that you've been invited!

Remember it's a confidential service and if anybody was aware you were involved you could be approached by forum infiltrators. Yes, it all sounds very MI5 but developers spend large amounts on new game models and a vital premise for the service is customer confidence in its integrity!

Ah so that's why it's been renamed GAG.....because a PFGging order just doesn't quite the same ring to it.

I'll get my coat

 

[Harry_BKK]

Didn't know where to stick this. Was doing a review when i stumbled accross it. Since some of us might be embarking on a testing adventure, here's a little info what testing game studios are doing.

The RTP and max win calculations for this slot are based on 224 Billion spins! .....for once we have a number of what length game studios have to go to provide a reliable RTP value.

It is akin somebody spinning a slot constantly on FastPlay with 1,500 spins / minute for 103,704 days or a little over 284 years! Get spinning!!!

 

[bebo67]

Didn't know where to stick this. Was doing a review when i stumbled accross it. Since some of us might be embarking on a testing adventure, here's a little info what testing game studios are doing.

The RTP and max win calculations for this slot are based on 224 Billion spins! .....for once we have a number of what length game studios have to go to provide a reliable RTP value.

It is akin somebody spinning a slot constantly on FastPlay with 1,500 spins / minute for 103,704 days or a little over 284 years! Get spinning!!!

View attachment 94067

 

[pinnit2014]

Basically... RTP means v little to average punter?

Spin 224 billion we get to see Bonanzas true potential!

Edit - 5x

 

[brianmon]

Didn't know where to stick this. Was doing a review when i stumbled accross it. Since some of us might be embarking on a testing adventure, here's a little info what testing game studios are doing.

The RTP and max win calculations for this slot are based on 224 Billion spins! .....for once we have a number of what length game studios have to go to provide a reliable RTP value.

It is akin somebody spinning a slot constantly on FastPlay with 1,500 spins / minute for 103,704 days or a little over 284 years! Get spinning!!!

View attachment 94067

What was the max payout?
Was it even worth achieving?

 

[nikantw]

I will probably start a thread with lessons :
Lesson 1, why RTP is the most important thing.
Lesson 2, why it isn't!

 

[dunover]

Didn't know where to stick this. Was doing a review when i stumbled accross it. Since some of us might be embarking on a testing adventure, here's a little info what testing game studios are doing.

The RTP and max win calculations for this slot are based on 224 Billion spins! .....for once we have a number of what length game studios have to go to provide a reliable RTP value.

It is akin somebody spinning a slot constantly on FastPlay with 1,500 spins / minute for 103,704 days or a little over 284 years! Get spinning!!!

View attachment 94067

I think that was from Lockinlove when she used to play it.

 

[Harry_BKK]

What was the max payout?
Was it even worth achieving?

Well, you decide